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Journey to the �CMS EGM Object Review

Bongho Tae

(Kyungpook National University)

on behalf of

The CMS Collaboration

2025 KCMS Workshop

1st July 2025

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Outline

  • Case Study
  • “Who” do you contact for an object review?
  • “Where” can you find the official approval guidelines?
  • “What” do you need to prepare for object approval?
  • “How” do you validate and approve a new photon ID?
  • Summary

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CASE STUDY

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Search for long-lived particle using delayed photon signature

  • Snowmass Points and Slopes 8 (SPS8) benchmark model:
    • GMSB scenario with neutralino NLSP.
    • Long-lived neutralino decay into photons & gravitino.
    • Parametrized by neutralino’s lifetime cτ and SUSY breaking scale Λ.
  • Event signature: Delayed photons and MET

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New Id for Delayed Photon

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Status

  • Analysis PAG (Physics Analysis Group): EXO (Exotica)
  • Main object: Delayed Photon
    • POG (Physics Object Group): EGM (Egamma)
  • Photon Collection: SlimmedPhoton + SlimmedOOTPhoton
  • DNN based photon ID
  • Trigger: Displaced single photon trigger
    • HLT_Photon60_R9Id90_CaloIdL_IsoL_DisplacedIdL_PFHT350MinPFJet15
  • It is very important to precisely follow the object review procedure that matches your research topic and analysis goals.

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“Who”

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EGM Object Review - Contacts

  • PAG Contacts

  • POG Contacts
  • To conduct an object review, always start by contacting your PAG representative.
  • For official approvals (new ID, SF, WP, etc.), reach out to the POG contacts.
  • Coordinate with the POG contacts to schedule your presentation at the EGM meeting.

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EGM Object Review - Contacts

  • PAG Contacts

  • POG Contacts
  • To conduct an object review, always start by contacting your PAG representative.
  • For official approvals (new ID, SF, WP, etc.), reach out to the POG contacts.
  • Coordinate with the POG contacts to schedule your presentation at the EGM meeting.

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“Where”�can you find the official approval guidelines?

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Physics Object Approval Process

  • All information required for the physics object approval review is available on this page.
  • Since each Physics Analysis Group (PAG) and POG follows its own specific procedures, it is essential to carefully review and follow the guidelines that are relevant to your analysis.
  • Making sure you are following the correct process from the start will save significant time and effort during the approval.

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EGM Object Review

Dataset, Trigger, ID, SF, Smearing, Scale, etc.

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“What”

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EGamma Questionnaire

  • The Egamma Questionnaire is a required form when introducing a used electron or photon object to your analysis.�
  • It collects essential information—such as analysis goals, object details, and working points—so that the POG can review and approve your proposal.�
  • Filling out this form carefully is the first step to official approval and smooth communication with the EGM group.

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Key Points of the Egamma Questionnaire

  • Clearly state any special conditions or phase space covered in your analysis
    • High pT photon region (pT > 100 GeV)
    • Barrel region only (|η| < 1.44)
    • No low pT or BParking datasets used

  • Clearly document the data, objects, and triggers used in your analysis
    • 2016,17 and 18 pre-legacy samples
    • Only Photon (Slimmed photon + Slimmed OOT Photon)
    • Trigger: Displaced single photon trigger
    • Official ID or Custom ID

  • Describe in detail how you derive efficiencies (scale factors) and estimate systematics
    • Method: Tag and Probe, Orthogonal
    • systematics: Alternative fits, Varying tag selection criteria, Alternative MC samples

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What The (scale) Factor?

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EGM Meeting

  • If you plan to apply a new ID—or any new object or method—to your analysis, you must present it at the EGM General Meeting.

  • This presentation is required to:
    • Receive expert feedback and suggestions,
    • Validate the object’s performance and implementation,
    • Ensure the object meets CMS standards before official approval and widespread use.

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“How”

do you validate and approve a new photon ID?

By Jihun Kim

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Scale factor

What is a scale factor?

  • Scale factor is a correction applied to simulated (MC) events to make them better match what is observed in real data.
  • It is defined as the ratio of the efficiency measured in data to the efficiency measured in MC:

Why do we need scale factors?

  • Simulations (MC) do not perfectly reproduce all detector effects and real data conditions.
  • By applying scale factors, we correct for small mismatches, ensuring our results and measurements are as accurate and unbiased as possible.
  • Without scale factors, the results from MC and data could be systematically different, leading to incorrect physics conclusions.

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Tag and Probe method

  • The Tag and Probe method is a data-driven technique widely used in CMS to measure the efficiency of object identification, trigger, and reconstruction.
  • Step 1:
    • Select Tag and Probe candidates from events (e.g., using well-identified electrons as tags and testing candidates as probes).
    • Define "passing probes" and probe variables using simple cuts or external modules.
  • Step 2:
    • Create T&P trees, then use them to fit the distributions and extract efficiencies.
    • Efficiencies are stored and can be used for scale factor calculations or further analysis.

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CMS tools for Tag and Probe

  • The CMS EGM group provides dedicated tools for each step of the Tag and Probe workflow:
    • EgammAnalysis-TnPTreeProducer: Creation of Tag and Probe trees in CMSSW
    • egm_tnp_analysis: RooFit-based fitting, efficiency extraction & SF calcualtion

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EgammAnalysis-TnPTreeProducer

set up the input samples, triggers, corrections, and various options (AOD/miniAOD, MC/data), and outputs the necessary TnP analysis root files

specify which features (kinematic variables, ID, isolation, MVA scores, etc.) will be saved for each probe and tag object in the output TnP trees.

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egm_tnp_analysis

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Scale factor for delayed photon ID

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Systematics

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• statData/statMC: Variation due to statistical uncertainty in data/MC

• altSignalModel: Use alternative signal PDF (e.g., double Crystal Ball)

• altBkgModel: Use alternative background model (e.g., polynomial instead of exponential)

• altMCEff: Change MC efficiency calculation method

• altTagSelection: Use alternative tag selection to estimate robustness

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Orthogonal method

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Selection + Muon Trigger + Delayed photon trigger

Selection + Muon Trigger

  • Orthogonal Method
  • Samples
    • Data :SingleMuon
    • MC : WGToLNuG
      • Select to use samples containing photon and muon
  • Muon Trigger : HLT_IsoMu27_v*
  • Delayed Photon Trigger :
    • HLT_Photon60_R9Id90_CaloIdL_IsoL_DisplacedIdL_PFHT350MinPFJet15
  • When Tag and Probe is challenging, the orthogonal method provides a robust way to measure efficiency using independent triggers and selections.

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Trigger Efficiencies & SF

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Data eff.

MC eff.

scale factor

Efficiencies

2018

Data eff.

MC eff.

2017

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CMS Pub Talk

  • CMS Pub Talk is the official communication platform for CMS collaboration members.
  • Here, you can ask questions, request object reviews, follow approval processes, and discuss various analysis topics.
  • If you need help or want to stay updated on important discussions and official announcements, always check or use CMS Pub Talk.

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CMS Pub Talk

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Summary

  • “Who” do you contact for an object review?
    • PAG Convener
  • “Where” can you find the official approval guidelines?
    • Physics Object Approval Process
  • “What” do you need to prepare for object approval?
    • EGamma Questionnaire, Object review in EGM meeting
  • “How” do you validate and approve a new photon ID?
    • Calculation SF with systematics

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Thank you for attending my presentation!

Wishing you success and smooth approval for your analysis!

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Backup

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Physics Object Review

  • Physics Object Review is the official process in CMS to validate and approve new or updated physics objects—such as electrons, photons, jets, and more—for use in physics analyses.

  • This review ensures that all objects meet the required performance standards, are well-understood, and are documented for use by the entire collaboration.

  • The process involves detailed validation, expert feedback, and formal approval through dedicated working groups (POGs), guaranteeing the reliability and reproducibility of CMS physics results.

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CMS Statistics Questionnaire

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Q: Since this is a single photon trigger, Why do we need the two separate training for leading and subleading photon

Answer: The leading photon is almost always the triggering photon, which imposes tighter requirements on that photon. The subleading photon is typically unbiased by the trigger, and therefore, the DNN training can be performed on a much more inclusive set of photon objects, allowing more optimization. We can obtain a more optimal signal selection by training the two types of objects separately.

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Q: Why do you have different training for 2016 and 17/18? Does the detector change between the years?

Answer: We have different training because the triggers used in 2016 and 17/18 are different. The training acts on a different set of photon objects, and that has a significant impact on the ID performance. Therefore the different training for 2016 dataset and 17/18 dataset results in more optimal discriminant and better signal to background discrimination.

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Q: On slide [6], why are the shaky ROC curves? If you merge the years, it might help you. Is your major background QCD?

Answer: Yes, QCD is our major background and due to the limited size of the QCD MC sample, the ROC has shaky curves when the cut becomes very tight.

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