Does Fine-tuning by Reinforcement Learning Improve Generalization in Binary Speech Deepfake Detection?
Xin Wang, Wanying Ge, Junichi Yamagishi
National Institute of Informatics, Japan
Interspeech 2026
Area 4 - Oral 9 - 3
wangxin@nii.ac.jp
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Does Fine-tuning by Reinforcement Learning Improve Generalization in Binary Speech Deepfake Detection?
Xin Wang, Wanying Ge, Junichi Yamagishi
National Institute of Informatics, Japan
Interspeech 2026
Area 4 - Oral 9 - 3
wangxin@nii.ac.jp
mitigate catastrophic forgetting
similarly to
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National Institute of Informatics
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Note: Speech data is from ASVspoof 2019 database https://datashare.ed.ac.uk/handle/10283/3336
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One-minute summary
Pre-training
(self-supervised learned front-end)
Post (or middle) training
(large-scale data, supervised)
Fine-tuning
(small-scale)
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Introduction
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Introduction
Detector
Deepfake generator
REAL
FAKE
Transmission
VoIP
mp3
or …
Detector
Front end
Classifier back end
Input wav.
(REAL)
(FAKE)
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Introduction
Detector
Front end
Classifier back end
Input wav.
(REAL)
(FAKE)
Detector
Training set
Test set 1
Test set 2
…
Real world data
Unseen deepfakes, speakers, languages, channels …
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Introduction
Juan M. Martin-Donas and Aitor Alvarez. 2022. The Vicomtech Audio Deepfake Detection System Based on Wav2vec2 for the 2022 ADD Challenge. In Proc. ICASSP, May 23, 2022. 9241–9245.
Xin Wang and Junichi Yamagishi. 2022. Investigating Self-Supervised Front Ends for Speech Spoofing Countermeasures. In Proc. Odyssey, 2022. 100–106.
Hemlata Tak, Massimiliano Todisco, Xin Wang, Jee-weon Jung, Junichi Yamagishi, and Nicholas Evans. 2022. Automatic speaker verification spoofing and deepfake detection using wav2vec 2.0 and data augmentation. In Proc. Odyssey, 2022. 112–119.
Wanying Ge, Xin Wang, Xuechen Liu, and Junichi Yamagishi. 2025. Post-training for Deepfake Speech Detection. In Proc. ASRU, December 06, 2025.
Yi Zhu, Brahmi Dwivedi, Jayaram Raghuram, and Surya Koppisetti. 2026. Alethia: A Foundational Encoder for Voice Deepfakes. In Proc. ICML, 2026.
Detector
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Input wav.
(REAL)
(FAKE)
Detector
Training set
Test set 1
Test set 2
…
Real world data
Unseen deepfakes, speakers, languages, channels …
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Introduction – Base method
Alexei Baevski, Yuhao Zhou, Abdelrahman Mohamed, and Michael Auli. 2020. wav2vec 2.0: A framework for self-supervised learning of speech representations. In Proc. NIPS, 2020. 12449–12460.
Wav2vec 2.0 (Baevski 2020)
A linear layer,
or a DNN …
Detector
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Input wav.
(REAL)
(FAKE)
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Introduction – Base method
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Cross-entropy
Training set
~500k hours
Real data only
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
download
& plug in
pre-training
supervised fine-tuning
~0.1k
Labels
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Introduction – Base method II
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Cross-entropy
Training set
~500k hours
Real data only
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
pre-training
supervised fine-tuning
A middle stage to fill the gap between pre-training and fine-tuning?
Labels
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Introduction – Base method II
Wanying Ge, Xin Wang, Xuechen Liu, and Junichi Yamagishi. 2025. Post-training for Deepfake Speech Detection. In Proc. ASRU, 2025.
Labels
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Cross-entropy
~500k hours
Real data only
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
pre-training
post-training
Real, vocoded, TTS/VC data
~75k
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Cross-entropy
supervised fine-tuning
Target domain real & fake data
0.1 k
Labels
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Introduction – Base method II
Wanying Ge, Xin Wang, Xuechen Liu, and Junichi Yamagishi. 2025. Post-training for Deepfake Speech Detection. In Proc. ASRU, 2025.
Labels
Cross-entropy
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Cross-entropy
~500k hours
Real data only
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
pre-training
post-training
Real, vocoded, TTS/VC data
~75k
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
supervised fine-tuning
Target domain real & fake data
0.1 k
Labels
Large-scale, many domains
Fine-tuning, a target challenging domain
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Introduction – Issue of catastrophic forgetting
Wanying Ge, Xin Wang, Xuechen Liu, and Junichi Yamagishi. 2025. Post-training for Deepfake Speech Detection. In Proc. ASRU, 2025.
Cross-entropy
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Cross-entropy
~500k hours
Real data only
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
Real, vocoded, TTS/VC data
~75k
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Target domain real & fake data
0.1 k
pre-training
post-training
supervised fine-tuning
Labels
Labels
Challenging target domain
Other “easy” domains
Equal error rate
5%
50%
50%
5%
Equal error rate
How to keep this error rate low after supervised fine-tuning?
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Method
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Method
Cross-entropy
~500k hours
Real data only
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
Real, vocoded, TTS/VC data
~75k
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
pre-training
post-training
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Cross-entropy
Target domain real & fake data
0.1 k
supervised fine-tuning
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Method
Daya Guo, Dejian Yang, et al. 2025. DeepSeek-R1 incentivizes reasoning in LLMs through reinforcement learning. Nature 645, 8081 (September 2025), 633–638.
Cross-entropy
~500k hours
Real data only
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
Real, vocoded, TTS/VC data
~75k
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
pre-training
post-training
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Target domain real & fake data
0.1 k
GRPO
GRPO-like
P(REAL)
P(FAKE)
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Daya Guo, Dejian Yang, et al. 2025. DeepSeek-R1 incentivizes reasoning in LLMs through reinforcement learning. Nature 645, 8081 (September 2025), 633–638.
Cross-entropy
~500k hours
Real data only
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
Real, vocoded, TTS/VC data
~75k
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
pre-training
post-training
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Target domain real & fake data
0.1 k
GRPO
Reinforcement learning-like
P(REAL)
P(FAKE)
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Method – why GRPO-like fine-tuning?
Idan Shenfeld, Jyothish Pari, and Pulkit Agrawal. 2025. RL’s Razor: Why Online Reinforcement Learning Forgets Less. In NeurIPS 2025 Workshop on Continual and Compatible Foundation Model, September 04, 2025.
RL incurs less forgetting (Shenfeld 2025)
Before fine-tuning
After fine-tuning
Target domain
General domains
Reinforcement learning
(e.g., GRPO)
Supervised training
by cross entropy
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Method – implementation
SFT
Detector
Cross-entropy
s
Label
Wav
Logit
REAL (R)
Prob.
Detector
s
Sampled predictions
REAL (R)
Reward
Evaluate only using ground-truth label
GRPO is intuitively like this
Incorrect prediction contributes to the training loss
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Method – implementation
Label
Wav
Prob.
Detector
REAL (R)
Reward
Detector
Sampled
predictions
Checkpoint (previous epoch)
Detector
Before fine-tuning
gradients
Prediction is correct?
GRPO is intuitively like this
Incorrect prediction contributes to the training loss
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Method – implementation
Wav
Prob.
Detector
REAL (R)
Sampled
predictions
Reward
Detector
Checkpoint (previous epoch)
Label
gradients
Prediction is correct?
See paper (appendix on arxiv) & code
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Experiment
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Experiment setup
Wanying Ge, Xin Wang, Xuechen Liu, and Junichi Yamagishi. 2025. Post-training for Deepfake Speech Detection. In Proc. ASRU, 2025.
Nuria Alina Chandra, Ryan Murtfeldt, Lin Qiu, Arnab Karmakar, Hannah Lee, Emmanuel Tanumihardja, Kevin Farhat, Ben Caffee, Sejin Paik, Changyeon Lee, Jongwook Choi, Aerin Kim, and Oren Etzioni. 2025. Deepfake-Eval-2024: A Multi-Modal In-the-Wild Benchmark of Deepfakes Circulated in 2024.
Pre-training
Post training
Fine-tuning
Real, vocoded, & fake data (Ge 2025)
~75k hours
Deepfake-Eval-2024 train set, real & fake data (Chandra 2025)
~50 hours
Real data
e.g., XLS-R
~500k hours
Evaluation
In-domain
Out-of-domain
Deepfake-Eval-2024 test set
Challenging target domain
We use post-trained checkpoints
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Experiment setup
Pre-training
Post training
Fine-tuning
SFT (cross-entropy)
Pre-training
Post training
Fine-tuning
GRPO
Pre-training
Post training
No fine-tuning
We use post-trained checkpoints
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Experiment results
Pre-training
Post training
Fine-tuning
v
v
x
v
v
SFT
v
v
GRPO
Average EER (%)
Challenging
target domain
Other easier non-target domains
22.64
2.69
10.26
6.28
Out-of-domain performance degraded after SFT
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Experiment results
Pre-training
Post training
Fine-tuning
v
v
x
v
v
SFT
v
v
GRPO
Average EER (%)
22.64
2.69
10.26
6.28
GRPO mitigates catastrophic forgetting
9.23
2.69
Challenging
target domain
Other easier non-target domains
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Experiment results
Pre-training
Post training
Fine-tuning
v
v
x
v
v
SFT
v
v
GRPO
Detailed EER (%)
Other easier non-target domains
22.64
10.26
9.23
ADD
FoR
DeepVoice
ItW
4.67
2.61
2.23
1.24
6.09
3.92
8.75
6.35
5.34
0.47
2.76
2.19
GRPO mitigates catastrophic forgetting
Challenging
target domain
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Experiment results
Pre-training
Post training
Fine-tuning
v
v
x
v
v
SFT
v
v
GRPO
Average EER (%)
In-domain
Out-of-domain
22.64
2.69
10.26
6.28
9.23
2.69
w/o sampling
11.41
3.41
Sampling incorrect labels is necessary to GRPO
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Experiment results
Equal error rate (EER)
Average EER of 3 runs
SSL
Target domain EERs
Non-target domain
Training pipelines
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Experiment results
Pre-training
Post training
Fine-tuning
SFT then GRPO (Deepseek R1?)
Pre-training
Fine-tuning
SFT/GRPO
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Summary
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Summary
Pre-training
Post training
Fine-tuning
GRPO
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Thank you
Code
github/nii-yamagishilab/AntiDeepfake
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Appendix
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Implementation details
(appendix https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.02914)
0 If equal, else 1
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Compare gradients
(appendix https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.02914)
without group-mean / var
without clipping, KLD …
GRPO-like
Cross entropy
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Compare gradients
(appendix https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.02914)
without group-mean / var
without clipping, KLD …
GRPO-like
Mixup
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Introduction – Base method
Xin Wang and Junichi Yamagishi. 2023. Spoofed Training Data for Speech Spoofing Countermeasure Can Be Efficiently Created Using Neural Vocoders. In Proc. ICASSP, 2023.
Xin Wang and Junichi Yamagishi. 2024. Can Large-Scale Vocoded Spoofed Data Improve Speech Spoofing Countermeasure with a Self-Supervised Front End? In Proc. ICASSP, 2024. 10311–10315.
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Cross-entropy
Training set
~500k hours
Real data only
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
pre-training
supervised fine-tuning
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
40k hours
Vocoded data
pre-training II
distillation
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Introduction – Base method
Xin Wang and Junichi Yamagishi. 2023. Spoofed Training Data for Speech Spoofing Countermeasure Can Be Efficiently Created Using Neural Vocoders. In Proc. ICASSP, 2023.
Xin Wang and Junichi Yamagishi. 2024. Can Large-Scale Vocoded Spoofed Data Improve Speech Spoofing Countermeasure with a Self-Supervised Front End? In Proc. ICASSP, 2024. 10311–10315.
SSL-based
front end
Classifier
Cross-entropy
Training set
~500k hours
Real data only
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
pre-training
supervised fine-tuning
SSL-based
front end
Contrastive loss
Pseudo
labels
40k hours
Vocoded data
pre-training II
Slightly lower EERs than pre-training + fine-tuning (Wang 2024)
More complicated: distillation & additional loss needed
distillation
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