AI: �Where You Can Use It �and Where You Shouldn't
Elizabeth Bartmess
Indexing Society of Canada / Société canadienne d’indexation
2025 Vancouver Conference
AI-Generated “Indexes” are Crap �And We Need to Say That�To Authors, Publishers, �and Prospective Indexers
My new title
What I’ll cover
What I mean by AI
How LLMs are bad at indexing
I will:
A quick ethics note
Tanya Izzard (2024)*
*Izzard, T. "Generative Artificial Intelligence (AI) and Its Performance at Indexing Tasks." The Indexer 42, no. 4 (2024). https://doi.org/10.3828/index.2024.24.
Izzard (2024): draft index creation
My attempts
For Perplexity and Claude
What I will and won’t talk about
Main headings
The Behavior of Organisms
- Adaptation, 14, 16
- After-discharge, 12, 14
- Algebraic summation, 30
- Analytical units in behavior, 9
- Animal behavior, 4, 5
- Appetite, 22, 23
Original index (A’s)
ChatGPT’s index (A’s)
How to Stop Worrying and Start Living
Acceptance, power of, 19, 20, 23
Action, importance of, 6, 7, 17, 48
Adversity, dealing with, 129-136
Alvarez, Dr. W. C., on worry and ulcers, 26
Anger, cost of, 113-122
Anxiety, overcoming, 7, 9, 16, 20, 151
Original index (A’s)
ChatGPT’s index (A’s)
The Psychology of Day-Dreams:�Original index (A’s)�
The Psychology of Day-Dreams�
Absurdities
- in day-dreams
- in thought chains
- types and causes
- See also Errors in thinking
Affect
- and apperception
- and conception
- and ideation
- and intuition
- and memory
- and thinking processes
- and visualization
- role in day-dreams
- See also Emotions; Feeling processes
Apperception
- affect in relation to
- compared to perception
- in day-dream formation
- role in thought chains
Attention
- conscious
- directed vs. undirected
- fore-conscious
- in day-dream states
- relationship to awareness
Autistic thinking
- Bleuler's concept of
- characteristics
- compared to directed thinking
- comparison with day-dreams
- function in mental life
- in neurotics
- relationship to reality
- vs. logical thinking
- See also Non-directed thinking; Phantastic thinking
Awareness
- degrees of
- during day-dreams
- relationship to consciousness
- See also Consciousness
Perplexity.AI’s index (A’s)
The Psychology of Day-Dreams�
A
affects
active in fore-conscious thinking, 4, 197-217
affinity for attention, 207
and apperception, 218-247, 252-253
and automatic ideation, 191
and conception, 248-257
and conscious ideation, 207
and forgetting, 140-153
and hallucination, 152
and ideation, 248-257
and memory, 183-217, 252
and perception, 241-242
and recollecting, 192-193, 197, 204, 211
and repression, 201, 292-303
and thought-formation, 250-251
and wish-fulfilment, 76
at genesis of day-dreams, 188-191
causing distraction, 133, 148-149
differentiation of, 247
directing concatenations, 112
effaced by evolution, 245
in artistic thinking, 216
in conception, 253-256
intensity of, 81, 256
interference with consciousness, 204
intuition of, 279-292
role in thinking, 259
spontaneous recollection, 190-191
affective thinking
artistic, 216
as seeking for satisfaction, 302
definition, 278
directing memory, 197
distinguished from directed thinking, 13-17
gaps in recall of, 66-74
genesis of, 25-53
in children, 243
primitive, 300
unsteadiness of, 115-153
analysis, method of, 27-30, 136, 178, 216, 265
apperception
abnormal, 234-235, 239, 253
and affect, 218-247
and memory, 219-221
definition, 219
fore-conscious, 230
influenced by affect, 222, 233-235
leading to day-dreams, 221-235
protracted under affect, 234
relation to association, 239-240
spontaneous additions in, 220-221
wrong, 227
association
automatic, 118
by shifting of accent, 49-51
external, 43-47, 51, 52, 72
in apperception, 239-240
outer, 44, 47, 50, 247
attention
and affect, 207, 256-268
conscious, 256-268
definition, 257
distracted by affects, 131-153, 168
fore-conscious, 256-268
awareness, 279-292
definition, 291
for affects in intuition, 281
in affective thinking, 257
lacking in certain mental processes, 291
Claude’s index (A’s)
Main headings: summary of issues
Recap of metatopic and related index structure
ChatGPT metatopic candidates
Perplexity.AI: Psychology of Day-Dreams
Affect
- and apperception
- and conception
- and ideation
- and intuition
- and memory
- and thinking processes
- and visualization
- role in day-dreams
- See also Emotions; Feeling processes
“Accidental metatopic”: 5 of 6 chapters here because they all included “affect” in the name. Cross-references to thematically related keywords, not for structure.
Claude: Psychology of Day-Dreams
affects
active in fore-conscious thinking, 4, 197-217
affinity for attention, 207
and apperception, 218-247, 252-253
and automatic ideation, 191
and conception, 248-257
and conscious ideation, 207
and forgetting, 140-153
and hallucination, 152
and ideation, 248-257
and memory, 183-217, 252
and perception, 241-242
and recollecting, 192-193, 197, 204, 211
and repression, 201, 292-303
and thought-formation, 250-251
and wish-fulfilment, 76
at genesis of day-dreams, 188-191
causing distraction, 133, 148-149
differentiation of, 247
directing concatenations, 112
effaced by evolution, 245
in artistic thinking, 216
in conception, 253-256
intensity of, 81, 256
interference with consciousness, 204
intuition of, 279-292
role in thinking, 259
spontaneous recollection, 190-191
Metatopic kitchen sink with full chapter ranges. No use of cross-references.
Summary: metatopic-related issues
Brief recap: cross-references
How to Stop Worrying (ChatGPT)
Acceptance, power of, 19, 20, 23 (see also Resilience)
Action, importance of, 6, 7, 17, 48 (see also Success, Initiative)
Adversity, dealing with, 129-136 (see also Resilience)
Alvarez, Dr. W. C., on worry and ulcers, 26 (see also Health, Stress)
Anger, cost of, 113-122 (see also Resentment, Forgiveness)
Anxiety, overcoming, 7, 9, 16, 20, 151 (see also Fear, Stress)
Psychology of Day-Dreams (Perplexity.AI)
Psychology of Day-Dreams (Claude)
Summary: cross-reference issues
Hallucinations
LLM-generated indexes: Summary of Issues
Why are LLMs bad at indexing?
What I’ll cover in this section
The available corpus of indexes
Indexing education
LLMs’ nature
Indexes and context
LLMs have context problems
Why don’t LLMs use context “right”?
Summary: Why LLMs make bad indexes
Could someone train an LLM to make a better index?
Training
Could LLMs be trained to index well?
Could we work around the structure issue?
Who would train/fund training an LLM?
LLM-generated indexes: Summary
Bonus slide: support tasks
What about support tasks?
Izzard (2024):
Our actual problem with LLMs
And what we can do about it
The invisible indexer
Our role as indexers
Recommendations
Recommendations: indexing societies
Recommendations: individual indexers
Recommendations: indexing educators
Summary
We should tell authors/editors/prospective indexers about LLMs’ shortcomings
Questions/suggestions?
Relevant to indexing/publishing and AI
Bonus slides I won’t have time to cover
How else might LLMs affect our work?
Areas to keep an eye on
Three potential ways
By changing how readers access information
By changing what is published
By changing publishing
Where you can use LLMs
(If you want to)
If you don’t want to use LLMs
Using LLMs
Macros and regular expressions
Handouts
Macros
Regular expressions (“regexes”)
Using regular expressions
Macros versus regular expressions
Introducing Regular Expressions
Regexes: simple name inversion
Macro for this talk
Installation/setup instructions
Writing regexes with LLMs
General advice for using LLMs
Asking an LLM to write you a regex
Prompt writing tips
Pitfalls of LLM answers
regex101.com
Example: Prompt
Example:�ChatGPT’s response
Example: regex101.com
Troubleshooting
Writing macros/scripts with AI
Using LLM-generated macros/scripts
Macro Express’s script view
Prompt writing tips (again)
Additional prompt generation tip for macros/scripts
Example
Windows: AutoHotKey 1.1
Set hotkey
Update English-language description of hotkey
Regex
Replacement
Mac: �Keyboard �Maestro
Mac: Keyboard Maestro
Check this
Set hotkey
Mac: Keyboard Maestro
Regex
Replacement
Questions?