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Journey of a Civilization Study Circle

May 9th (11:30 AM EDT) and (9:00 PM IST)

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Birdseye view of Ch. 4 –

Origins of the Dravidian Speakers and the Dravidian Hypothesis

1. Various Theories of the origin of the Dravidian speakers
• Dravidian and Uralian Theory
• Afro Dravidian Theory
• Mediterranean Theory
• Kumari Kodu and the Lemuria Theory

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• Dravidian Hypothesis of the IVC
• Suniti Kumar Chatterjee
• Henry Heros
• Asko Parpola
• Irwatham Mahadevan

Bellwood, Caldwell, Kolipakam, Burrows, Zvelebil, McAlpin, Southworth, Fairservis, Knorozov, Meriggi, Heras, Chatterjee, Krishnamurti, Winters, Sergent, Aravanan, Rask, Lahovari, Lal, Gurumurthy, Lahovary, Sclater, Marshall, Parpola, Mahadevan, Maloney, Banerjee, Stein, Altekar, Hewitt, and others

3. Linguistic evidence for IVC to Vaigai migration – will share our (Sridevi, Bama and I) progress - a few preliminary evidence

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https://www.dutchstudies-satsea.nl/deelnemers/zvelebil-kamil-veith/

"திராவிடர்கள் ஒரு மலைவாழ் மக்கள். பொ.ஆ.மு 4000 காலப்பகுதியில் வடகிழக்கு ஈரானின் மலைப்பகுதிகளில் வாழ்ந்து வந்தனர். அவர்களின் பயணத்தின் வழியெங்கும், பல்வேறு திராவிட மொழி பேசும் பழங்குடியினர் முதன்மைக்குழுவிலிருந்து பிரிந்து சென்றனர். அவ்வாறு முதலில் பிரிந்தவர்கள் வடமேற்கு திராவிட மொழி பேசும் மக்களாவர். இவர்கள் சிந்து சமவெளி நாகரிக மக்களின் இனமொழி உருவாக்கத்தில் ஒரு முக்கிய அல்லது முன்னணி வகித்திருக்கக்கூடும்."

Zagaros Mountain Range

The earliest human fossils discovered in Zagros belong to Neanderthals and come from Shanidar Cave, Bisitun Cave, and Wezmeh Cave. The remains of ten Neanderthals, dating from around 65,000–35,000 years ago, have been found in the Shanidar Cave

Geography of Zagros Mountain Range

“Human Y chromosome haplogroup L1-M22 traces Neolithic expansion in West Asia and supports the Elamite and Dravidian connection”

Bayesian Dating Analysis of 165 high-coverage Y chromosomes

Pathak et al. Human Y chromosome haplogroup L1-M22 traces Neolithic expansion in West Asia and supports the Elamite and Dravidian connection.  iScience 27, 110016, June 21,2024. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.isci.2024.110016

Authors’ hypothesis

"பண்டைய இடப்பெயர்வுகள் குறித்த தரவுகளைப் பெறுவதில் மொழிக்குடும்பங்கள் மிக முக்கியமான அடிப்படையாகும். வரலாற்றுப் பதிவுகளின்படி, மொழிகள் வெகுதொலைவுக்கும் பெரிய அளவிலும் பரவுவதற்கும், அவை வெறும் மேல்தட்டு மக்களிடையே மட்டும் இல்லாமல் ஒட்டுமொத்த மக்களின் நீண்டகாலப் பேச்சுமொழியாக நிலைபெறுவதற்கும் பின்னணியில் உள்ள முக்கியக் காரணி அந்த மொழிகளைப் பேசுபவர்களின் இடப்பெயர்வே ஆகும்." (பெல்வுட் 2014:2).

https://researchportalplus.anu.edu.au/en/persons/peter-bellwood

Linguistic Data as Historical Evidence - He says that the internal structure and shared roots of language families serve as a primary scientific record for tracking the movement of ancient civilizations across continents.

1. The Migration Model (Scientific Consensus)

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The Iranian Origins: Dravidian Language speakers were "highlander folk" from North-Eastern Iran (ca. 4000 BCE) who migrated into the Indus Valley.

Demic Diffusion: Language traveled via mass migration of whole populations—farmers —rather than just the elite [Genetically – Iranian Farmers].

The Route: These speakers entered from the west (via Baluchistan, Mehrgarh ?), establishing the linguistic foundation for the IVC and Southern India.

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2. Secondary & Speculative Theories

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Elamo-Uralic: Suggests ancient links to Elamite (Iran) or Uralic (Finno-Ugric) families in Eurasia.

Mediterranean: Dravidians are "survivors" of a pre-Indo-European Near-Eastern population.

Afro-Dravidian: Claims migration from Africa (Nubia) based on shared "Black and Red Ware" pottery styles.

Lemuria (Kumari Kandam): A traditional Tamil narrative of a lost sunken continent; culturally vital but geologically debunked.

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Origin of Dravidian Speakers

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Suniti Kumar Chatterji -- A pioneering linguist and philologist, he was one of the first scholars to provide a serious Dravidian Hypothesis for the IVC.

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Pre-Aryan Inhabitants: He posited that before the arrival of Aryans, India was primarily inhabited by the Kols and the Dravidians.

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Independent Culture: Chatterji emphasized that the Dravidians possessed an independent culture and a unique language before coming in contact with Indo-Europeans language speakers.

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Mediterranean Origins: He theorized that the Dravidians were a Mediterranean people who migrated from Crete, passing through Asia Minor and Mesopotamia.

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Near Eastern Connections: During their migration, they were likely in close touch with the Sumerians and the Elamites, potentially sharing a common ancestral relationship with them.

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Iranian Route: He suggested they entered India via the southern part of the Iranian plateau into Sindh.

https://archive.org/details/dravidiancourseo0000suni

Henry Heras: Supporting the Dravidian Hypothesis

Father Henry Heras was a primary advocate for the Dravidian identity of the Indus Valley Civilization (IVC), arguing that the arriving Aryans encountered a highly sophisticated, established culture. His narrative centers on the following points:

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Dravidian Authorship of IVC: Heras maintained that the creators of Mohenjo-daro and Harappa were Dravidians who were once predominant across the entire Indian subcontinent.

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Picto-phonographic Script: He analyzed the Indus script as a "picto-phonographic" system where signs expressed full words and grammatical statements rather than mere phonetic sounds.

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Agglutinative Proto-Dravidian: He reconstructed a "Proto-Dravidian" language characterized by its infant state and strictly agglutinative structure, which he used to interpret the inscriptions.

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Historical Continuity: Heras argued that ancient local administrative models, such as the Panchayat system, were pre-Aryan Dravidian institutions that survived into the modern era.

Heras, Henry. Studies in Proto-Indo-Mediterranean Culture. Bombay: Indian Historical Research Institute, St. Xavier's College, 1953.

North Dravidian

Jharkhand

West Bengal

Chhattisgarh

Odisha

Balochistan (Pakistan)

pockets of Afghan and Iran

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Central Dravidian (States)

Maharashtra

Telangana

Chhattisgarh

Odisha

Andhra Pradesh

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South Dravidian II

Andhra Pradesh

Telangana

Madhya Pradesh

Maharashtra

Chhattisgarh

Odisha

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South Dravidian I

Tamil Nadu

Puducherry

Kerala

Karnataka

Lakshadweep

A Bayesian phylogenetic study of the Dravidian language family-   Kolipakam etc https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.171504

Origin 4500 years ago; 95% HPD interval is 3,000 to 6,500 years

Asko Parpola: The Logo-Syllabic and Rebus Approach

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• systematic study of the Indus script, applied computational aids and comparative linguistics to establish its Dravidian character.

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• identified the script as logo-syllabic, similar to ancient Sumerian and Egyptian, where signs represent nuclear words (lexical roots) rather than phonemes.

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• due to a lack of bilingual text prevents direct decipherment, Parpola used the "rebus" method—using a pictogram of an object to represent a homophonous word (e.g., using the sign for "fish" to represent "star").

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• noted that in Dravidian languages, the word for fish (mīn) is a homophone for "star." He concluded that fish signs in Indus seals signify "god" or heavenly bodies.

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• Parpola argued that the presence of Dravidian loanwords and retroflex consonants in the Rig Veda proves that Dravidian languages were spoken in Indus-Harappan geographies before Indo-Aryan migration.

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• He was emphatic that because horses were unknown to the IVC culture and only arrived in South Asia after 2000 BCE, Indo-European languages cannot be used to decipher the script.

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Iravatham Mahadevan: Epigraphy and Cultural Continuity

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• Mahadevan, a stalwart of Tamil epigraphy, bridged Indus script and Old Tamil traditions.

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• He interpreted Indus signs by finding vestiges of the civilization in Old Tamil and tracing the names and titles of Sangam Tamil kings back to Indus symbols.

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• Mahadevan identified specific high-frequency signs, such as the "jar" and "arrow" signs, as grammatical morphemes representing gender and number (e.g., masculine/non-masculine singular suffixes).

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• He identified a cross-shaped Indus ideogram as the "Planned City," correlating it with the Old Tamil Pāḷi (பாளி) (row/order) and the city of Madurai, known as நான்மாடக்கூடல். கலித்தொகை (92:65) - மதுரையைப் புகழ்ந்து பாடும்போது இந்தப் பெயரைப் பயன்படுத்துகிறது: "நான்மாடக்கூடல் மகளிரும் மைந்தரும்"

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• He reinterpreted the legend of Sage Agastya as a folk memory of the "exodus" of Dravidian-speaking Velir clans from Dwaraka in Gujarat to South India after the collapse of the Indus Civilization.

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• He utilized toponymy (place names) to show that Dravidian suffixes like -vali (village) and -kot (fort) found in modern Sindh and Gujarat are remnants of the original IVC language.

மேல் மலை

கொட்குன்று

கீழ் குன்று

மேல் நாடு

கொடை நாடு

No etymology

Place Names = Sangam Poems

People Names = Anthroponymy

3. Linguistic Evidence of IVC to Vaigai Migration

Language X - Peggy Mohan’s Analysis

Linguistic features – Tamil-Marathi-Gujarati-etc

Linguistic features – Thirukkural, Rig Veda

The three dimensions of Linguistic Features

• Words
• Grammar
• “How we (prefer to) communicate”

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Adapted from Peggy Mohan’s: Father tongue, motherland. 2025

Grammatical features of Language X and its potential descendants

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Toda language appears to exhibit split ergativity. Other tribal languages may; Kui does

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Question: Did Tamil have ergativity features in ancient times, but lost it? To be examined

Number of features absent compared to Language X

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Retroflex phoneme appears to be a hallmark of Dravidian languages. Although phonetically 12 have been identified in use in the Hindu Kush region, a smaller set of 4 or 5 are present in the Dravidian language group.

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Presence in Australia suggests that it may have been present in ancient South Asia

Map is from one of Professor Peggy Mohan’s talk

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Emeneau, M. B. (1956). India as a linguistic area. Language, 32(1), 3-16. https://doi.org/10.2307/410664

Dravidian influence on Sanskrit – Emeneau

Emeneau argues that while the vocabulary of Sanskrit is Indo-European, its "inner form" or grammar began to shift significantly toward a Dravidian-like structure due to centuries of bilingualism.

The Shift in Position (Prepositions vs. Postpositions)

In typical Indo-European languages, functional particles come before the noun (pre-positions). However, Emeneau points out that Sanskrit and its descendants moved toward postpositions, where the particle follows the noun. He notes that while Vedic Sanskrit already had some "pre-positions" that could technically be "post-posed," the transition to a system where they invariably follow the noun is a hallmark of Dravidian syntax. This makes the two language families structurally "left-branching," where the head of the phrase comes last.

The Tamil Locative Construction

In Tamil, the transition from the nominative noun to the locative involves a shift to the oblique stem. The marker behaves as a suffix that "locks" onto the end of the noun.

Nominative Noun: வீடு (Vīṭu) — House

Locative Marker: இல் (-il) — In

Oblique Transformation: வீட்டு (Vīṭṭu-)

Final Result: வீட்டில் (Vīṭṭil) — In the house

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The Sanskrit Locative Construction

Classical Sanskrit often uses internal inflection (vowel changes at the end of the word) rather than an independent postposition. However, as Emeneau notes, the "position" of the case-marking energy is consistently at the end, and later Indo-Aryan languages moved toward the Tamil-style modular suffix.

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Nominative Noun: गृहम् (Gṛham) — House

Locative Inflection: इ (-i)

Final Result: गृहे (Gṛhe) — In the house (where a + i merges to e)

घर (Ghar). में (meñ) घर में (Ghar meñ)

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The Oblique Stem and Case Markers - Emeneau highlights a specific morphological change in Middle Indo-Aryan. The case marker or postposition is added to a modified version of the noun called the "oblique form." This is a departure from the complex inflectional system of early Indo-European languages. In Dravidian languages, this is the standard rule: you take a noun, modify it to an oblique base, and then add a suffix. Emeneau suggests that Dravidian grammatical syntax helped push Indo-Aryan toward this simpler, more modular system.

Linguists like Burrow and Emeneau trace urā back to the Proto-Dravidian root *ur-, which relates to a "place of stay," "dwelling," or "village."

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Sanskrit's मह्यम् (Mahyam) is a "fused" form. You cannot easily peel away the "to" from the "me." It is a unique piece of vocabulary that must be memorized separately from other dative nouns. The modern languages above "regularized" this, likely under the structural influence of the Dravidian languages they were in contact with.

To me: Kane

From me: Kanne-ān

3. The Personal Pronoun Paradox

A very specific piece of evidence Emeneau cites is the use of "double stems" in pronouns. In Sanskrit, the word for "I" (aham) is completely different from the base used for "me" or "by me" (ma-). This is an ancient Indo-European trait called suppletion. However, Emeneau observes that Indo-Aryan (Hindi as an example) began treating these stems in a way that parallels Dravidian usage, where the same inflectional endings are added to these distinct singular and plural stems in a highly regular, almost mathematical fashion.

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4. Convergence in Singular and Plural Inflexions

One of the most "striking" points mentioned is the method of adding suffixes. In Sanskrit, the ending for a "plural dative" is often entirely different from a "singular dative." In contrast, Dravidian languages often use the same case-ending suffix for both singular and plural, simply inserting a pluralizing particle in between. Emeneau argues that later Indo-Aryan languages(eg Hindi) began to mimic this Dravidian practice, moving away from the "messy" variety of Sanskrit endings toward a more uniform, agglutinative system.

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5. Interpretation of the "Striking" Chronology

The "chronology" Emeneau refers to is the timing of these changes. These shifts did not happen in a vacuum; they occurred after Indo-Aryan speakers settled in South Asia and interacted with the indigenous population. He concludes that these developments are "convincing" evidence of a linguistic area (Sprachbund). Even though some of these traits might have had tiny seeds in Proto-Indo-European, the fact that they blossomed so specifically in India—and in a way that mirrors Dravidian—suggests a profound structural influence from the Dravidian substrate.

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Inclusive vs. Exclusive "We" Alignment

Another Example – “Social Linguistics”

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In a verb-centric language like English or Sanskrit, one uses separate verbs for each action: "Sita came, ate food, and went." In a noun-centric (Dravidian-style) language, these actions are converted into verbal nouns or participles, creating a single long chain that ends with one final verb: "Sita [coming-having-done] [food-eating-having-done] went."

�Notice how Marathi and Gujarati mirror the Tamil logic by using the participle suffix (-ūn in Marathi, -īne in Gujarati) to "chain" the actions together instead of using multiple independent verbs.

The Vinai-echam Chain: A Substrate of Convergence

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The "Noun-Centric" Concept with Verbless Construct

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1. The "Verbless" Philosophical Engine

Note that in Marathi, Gujarati, and Hindi, you are forced to use the verb "to be" (āhē/chē/hai) to conclude these thoughts. In the Tamil the truth is complete the moment the nouns are placed together. This Noun-Centricity is the foundational layer of the Dravidian language.

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2. Transition from Action to Identity

By using Appellative Verbs (குறிப்பு வினை), Valluvar turns actions into identities. Instead of saying "They will live long," he says "They [are] the long-living ones." This shift from doing to being is a structural fingerprint of the Dravidian substrate that distinguishes it from the verb-heavy Indo-European style.

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3. The Left-Branching Suffix

Every "logic" in these Kurals is pushed to the right-most word (the Head). Whether it is Ulaku (World), Arithu (Rare), or Ila (None), the entire weight of the sentence sits on that final noun. This is exactly what we saw in the Marathi and Gujarati "thoughtful thoughts" earlier—indicating the “communication engine” is identical.

IVC to Vaigai was via Gujarat and Maharashtra (?)

A few observations : Tamil – Marathi -Gujarati

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250 BCE

ஸதியபுதோ அதியந் நெடுமாந் அஞ்சி ஈத்த ப(ள்)ளி

Verbless Noun-centric (பள்ளி) Thamizhi inscription of 250 BCE

Jambai Malai, near Thirukoyilur, Vizhupuram

ஒரு செயலை (தானம் கொடுப்பதை) விட, கொடுக்கப்பட்ட அந்தப் பொருள் அல்லது கட்டமைப்பின் அடையாளமே (பள்ளி) இங்கு முதன்மைப்படுத்தப்படுகிறது.

The "Noun-Centric" Concept with Verbless Construct

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Today - 2026

இந்த காலத்து இளைஞர்கள் இளைஞிகள் சமூக வலைதளங்களை மட்டுமே பார்ப்பவர்கள். நாட்டில் என்ன நடக்கிறது என்பதை தெரியாமலே இதையெல்லாம் உண்மை என நம்பி ஒன்றுக்கும் உதவாத ஒருவனை கதாநாயகனாக நம்பி ஏமாந்தது தான் இன்றைய கால வரலாறு

[The whole deception process] (Noun A) + தான் (Emphasis) = [Today's history] (Noun B).

Same communication construct as Kural 2 (கற்றதனால் ஆய பயனென்கொல்...).

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The Kural: If you don't worship, your learning is useless.

Social Media Comment: If you only watch social media, your "history" is just a deception.

பார்ப்பவர்கள் - Participial Noun (வினையாலணையும் பெயர்).

தெரியாமலே - Negative Participle.

நம்பி - Adverbial Participle (வினையெச்சம்).

ஏமாந்தது - Verbal Noun (தொழிற்பெயர்).

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அவங்க யோசிக்கிற மனநிலையில இல்ல

Same communication construct as Kural 8 (அறவாழி அந்தணன்... அரிது) and shows 2,000 years of structural continuity.

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In both cases, the sentence is anchored by a குறிப்பு வினைமுற்று (அரிது / இல்ல) that defines a state of being rather than a temporal action.

Today - 2026

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Rig Veda (1.1.1), the oldest layer of Sanskrit. This provides an example of the verb-centric, “right-branching” architecture of the early Indo-European "operating system.”

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The Verse: Rig Veda 1.1.1

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अग्निमीळे पुरोहितं यज्ञस्य देवमृत्विजम् । होतारं रत्नधातमम् ॥

Agnim-īḷe purohitaṃ yajñasya devam-ṛtvijam | hotāraṃ ratnadhātamam ||

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I praise Agni, the priest of the house, the god of the sacrifice, the seasonal priest, the invoker, and the best bestower of treasures.

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The first word अग्निमीळे (Agnimīḷe), is a combination of two words joined by the rules of Sandhi (phonetic joining). Agni (अग्निम् - Agnim) is the noun-object(Agni/Fire). The -m ending at the end of the first part marks it as the object of the sentence [Sanskrit grammer rule]. Īḷe (ईळे) is the full verb. It translates to "I praise" or "I invoke."

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The very beginning of the sutra centers on a powerful, active, and fully inflected verb: ईळे (īḷe). This is a 1st-person singular, present tense, Atmanepada verb meaning "I praise" or "I invoke."

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In the first Thirukkural, the "praising" is turned into a noun or a participle (e.g., "The-one-who-praises"). In the Rig Veda, the Action (praising) is the anchor of the sentence. The entire verse revolves around this specific verbal event performed by the "I.”

அகர முதல எழுத்தெல்லாம் ஆதி பகவன் முதற்றே உலகு.

https://eemaata.com/books/India%20as%20a%20Linguistic%20Area%20-%20Emeneau.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn_LoWFRtHw

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