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Deliberative Dialogue Session 1�Concerning THC Compounds Other Than Delta-9: �Cannabis Plant Chemistry �June 3, 2021 – 9:30AM – 12:00PMVia WebEx Only

Kathy Hoffman, MPA, MALC

Washington State Liquor and Cannabis Board

1025 Union Avenue

Olympia WA 98502

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Overall meeting goal: To build an understanding of cannabis plant chemistry perspectives.

 

Today’s dialogue intentions:

  • Provide a platform for panelists to share and discuss plant chemistry perspective;
  • Increase opportunity for genuine, respectful moderated dialogue between all participants; and
  • Begin dialogue that may be used to inform THC compound other than Delta-9 rule and policy development.

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Why are we here?

  • LCB issued a Policy Statement #PS-21-01 concerning THC compounds other than delta-9 on April 28, 2021.
  • LCB began rule development by way of inquiry on May 12, 2021.
  • LCB would like to begin discussion concerning cannabis plant chemistry to inform rule development.

How will data be collected, shared, and presented to decision makers?

  • Comments received will be added to an Excel workbook, organized by theme, and analyzed.
  • Comments will be presented to the Board for review and discussion.
  • LCB will share recordings and comment tables externally.

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Meeting Protocol

Participant Roles:

  • Panelist
  • Moderator
  • Participant/listener

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What is Deliberative Dialogue?

  • “ Deliberative dialogue differs from other forms of public discourse — such as debate, negotiation, brainstorming, consensus-building — because the objective is not so much to talk together as to think together, not so much to reach a conclusion as to discover where a conclusion might lie. Thinking together involves listening deeply to other points of view, exploring new ideas and perspectives, searching for points of agreement, and bringing unexamined assumptions into the open.”

See http://www.resolutioncollaborative.com/deliberative-dialogue/

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How is deliberative dialogue different from debate?

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Dialogue Protocol

What are the ground rules for deliberative dialogue?

 

  • The purpose of dialogue is to understand and learn from one another (you cannot “win” a dialogue).
  • This is not a debate; we are not seeking points of divergence, listening to find flaws, or points to argue.
  • There is no “right” answer.
  • All dialogue participants speak for themselves; not as representatives of others’ interests.
  • In dialogue, everyone is treated as an equal; leave status and stereotypes at the door.
  • Be open and listen to others, especially when you disagree. Suspend judgment.
  • Identify and test assumptions – even your own.
  • Listen carefully and respectfully to the views of others; acknowledge you have heard the other, especially when you disagree.
  • Look for common ground.
  • Respect all points of view.
  • The moderators objectively guides the discussion.
  • Since this is a public work session, anything shared has the potential to become part of a public record.

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Dialogue Protocol

Dialogue Format

  • Panel introduction: Each panelist will take 5 minutes to introduce themselves.
  • Moderated panel discussion/dialogue. Participants listen.
  • Moderated participant questions and panel responses.
    • Use the hand-raise feature to indicate you have a question;
    • Participants will be called on in the order received.

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Who is Here?

In the chat box, please share:

  • Your name
  • Who you are affiliated with or represent (if comfortable sharing)
  • Why you are interested in this topic

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Panelist Introductions

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Moderated Panel Question and Discussion

 

 1. How do the effects of delta-8 THC differ from those of delta-9 THC (and other THC isomers)? Does it matter if the compound is produced in plants or chemically?

 

∆9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (Delta-9 THC)

∆8-Tetrahydrocannabinol (Delta-8 THC)

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Moderated Panel Question and Discussion

2. When producing delta-8 THC, what do and don’t we know about byproducts? How are these detected?

3. What amount of commercially-available (produced and sold) delta-8 THC is produced from cannabidiol (CBD) relative to the amount that is simply extracted from the cannabis plant?

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Moderated Panel Question and Discussion

4. From a chemists perspective, what does “synthetic” mean? How does this differ from “artificial”?

5. Are temperature changes and solvent-use unique to extraction and processing of cannabis or are they used for other extracting and processing other plants?  

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Participant Question Session

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Summary

Wrap up

Next steps

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Questions?

Contact Kathy Hoffman, Policy and Rules Manager

360-664-1622

katherine.hoffman@lcb.wa.gov

Thank you!