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�Surviving, Previving, and Thriving:�Prioritizing Prevention for our Patients�

Andrea Hagemann, MD, MSCI

Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology

Division of Gynecologic Oncology, Washington University School of Medicine

February 2022

hagemanna@wustl.edu

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Disclosures

  • I have no financial disclosures
  • I will refer to genetic testing companies by name
  • I grew up in Minnesota

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Objectives

  • Describe current strategies for genetic counseling, testing and cancer risk management
    • From BRCA1 to keeping up with expanding guideline-based care!

  • Describe the preventive impact of cascade genetic testing, and better understand barriers and facilitators

  • Describe considerations in gynecologic cancer risk reduction for BRCA1/2 mutation carriers

  • How will you advocate for prevention and survivorship as an Ob/Gyn?

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J Clin Invest. 2014 Oct 1; 124(10): 4148–4151.

Discovery & History of BRCA1/2

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BRCA1/2 and Homologous Recombination Deficiency in Ovarian Cancer

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Case Studies

  • Sunni, a 41 yo G1P0010, presents with a pelvic mass and elevated CA-125.
    • Sunni noted 3-4 weeks of increased abdominal pain and swelling.  She did present to the urgent care a week prior and was given a script for Cipro for a UTI.  When the pain kept increasing, she presented again to the ED where a CT showed a 10 cm pelvic mass, omental nodularity, and an elevated CA-125 of >5000.     

Inguinal lymph nodes

12 x 14 cm pelvic mass, ascites

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Sunni’s family history and treatment course

  • She notes a family history of her mother with breast cancer at age 52, and her maternal grandmother with breast cancer, as well.  Her mother is alive at age 78, s/p chemo/radiation and lumpectomy for her breast cancer at age 52.  Her brother had prostate cancer and is doing well after treatment. 

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Case Studies

  • Sandi, 54 yo G2P1013, presented with chest pain and shortness of breath.

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Case Studies

  • Sandi, 54 yo G2P1013, presented in July 2016 with chest pain and shortness of breath.

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Sandi’s family history and clinical course

  • Her family history is notable for her mother and two sisters with breast cancer and another sister with melanoma.  Her Sister age 56 at diagnosis has triple negative breast cancer and was recently diagnosed with a BRCA1 mutation.  
  • Her other sister has had triple negative breast cancer also diagnosed around age 56.  Her BRCA testing was inconclusive.  
  • Mother had breast cancer at age 49-50.  
  • Sister had melanoma on her labia at age 21.   
  • Brother later diagnosed with prostate cancer.

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Strategies for Identification of Germline Mutations

  • Test everyone
    • Population-based screening for BRCA1/2
    • General population screening
  • Test if strong family history of cancer
    • Detailed, multi-generational family history
  • Test individuals with a cancer diagnosis
    • Germline testing
    • Somatic testing
    • Traceback testing
  • Test an enriched population
    • Cascade genetic testing

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Palag Hasson et al. Pharmacogenomics and Personalized Medicine 2020:13

Breast Cancer

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Ovarian Cancer

Kathryn P. Pennington et al. Clin Cancer Res 2014;20:764-775

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Kastrinos et al, 2020, Gastroenterology Vol 158, No 2

Colon Cancer

Endometrial Cancer—Somatic

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Point-of-Care Testing in CAM13C Gyn Onc Clinics

  • All epithelial ovarian cancer patients, MMR-d endometrial cancers, others
  • Expanding to generalist Ob/Gyn clinics
    • Similar process to prenatal genetic testing
  • New! COH3 testing now available! Workflow and educational materials
  • Next up—COH7

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Barriers to Cascade Genetic Testing

  • HIPAA
  • Proband shoulders most of the burden—how can we help them?
  • Testing options vary everywhere
  • Access to testing, follow up
  • Worry

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Barriers-Provider Factors

  • Interpretation of genetic testing results
  • Whose job is it?
    • Generalist Ob/Gyn
    • Primary care physician
    • Medical oncologist
    • Gynecologic oncologist
    • Breast surgeon
    • Genetic counselor
    • Gastroenterologist
    • Urologist

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Can a toolkit introduced to oncology providers and cancer patients improve the rates of cascade genetic testing?

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Mixed Methods Study with Introduction of a Toolkit

  • Provider Interviews
  • Proband Surveys
  • Invitation to Family Members for Surveys

  • Primary outcome: Rates of cascade genetic testing in first degree relatives after the introduction of the Families Accelerating Cascade Testing Toolkit

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Provider Interviews: Siteman Cancer Center

  • Semi-structured interview guide included questions about:
    • processes for genetic testing
    • barriers and facilitators to cascade genetic testing
    • resources for cascade testing
  • Conducted interviews with 28 providers across 7 specialties
  • Audio recorded and transcribed interviews
  • Utilized a thematic analysis approach that involved 3 phases: Immersion, Reduction, and Interpretation

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How is testing currently being performed across Siteman?

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Facilitators

Theme

Exemplar quote

No or low-cost testing helps overcome barriers to testing

“... the lab that we work with… will do free family testing for 150 days. That's Invitae. We also will often work with Ambry, and they are doing free family testing for 90 days, which is the more standard. Invitae expanded theirs because of COVID. That also helps overcome a potential barrier of cost.”

Telehealth helps facilitate genetic counseling for family members

“...telemedicine… has made a huge difference in getting people testing that they wouldn’t otherwise have access...”

Screening guidelines help providers determine appropriate action

“…if they [patients] don’t meet strict NCCN criteria but they have a family history, I’ll refer them to genetic counseling. If they meet the criteria based on NCCN, I typically will send off panel testing for them.”

Department prioritization, when present, increases the frequency of testing

“We feel strongly about having it done… Actually, there’s… very few times, that I have had to do testing on someone who meets criteria because their surgeon, a lot of times, has already done it. I definitely think that comes down from just all our physicians being very good at what they do. Then I’m thinking the leadership probably has been very good at that as well.”

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Exemplar quote

Cost, insurance coverage and insurance changes are key concerns for patients & families

“A lot of patients don't know what the cost will be for their family members. I know a lot of the testing centers will allow a family member to get abbreviated costs and stuff, but… a cost that's abbreviated may be okay for me, but not for you. Financial burdens are really real.”

“...fear of persecution, or not being a candidate for life insurance policies, or affecting future healthcare coverage, and all of the things that we have to try to do to educate people about.”

Health literacy and education are key determinants to family testing

“Some of these people are more plugged in and have an easier time navigating the health care system. Probably health care literacy. I would say that's probably the… biggest one [barrier].”

Family dynamics influence communication and follow through for cascade testing

“…we will fairly often see disrupted family. If the patient doesn't communicate about other things, she's not going to talk to people about a sensitive topic like genetic test results.”

Some patients and families feel fear around genetic testing

“I say “fear” because a lot of family members, they don’t wanna know, or they’re scared.”

What are barriers to testing: Patient Level

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What are barriers to testing: Provider & system

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Exemplar quote

Dissatisfaction with EHR documentation systems for tracking genetic testing

“I'm not satisfied with how genetic testing results coming from companies is reported in Epic… what ends up happening is it gets into some random tab in media, or you get it set in some random genetic counsellors note, or your note or My Note has like an iPhone picture of something that doesn't fit into things.”

Lack of systematic workflows for discussion & referral for cascade testing

“We don't have a really good systematic approach to it [cascade testing] because even if they do have an interest in it, then we gotta get them referred and make sure to follow up that they actually saw the counselors and got follow-up.”

Lack of tools and resources makes it difficult to have conversations about cascade testing

“I just don’t have the language on the tip of my tongue. I don’t have like a package of resources, so that the patient could simply provide it to their family members, or have that conversation itself. I don’t think I empower my patients to go out and talk to their family and their relatives about it.”

Difficult to contact family members for testing

“... there's the HIPAA aspects to it as well. Obviously we can't just cold call people and reach out and say, ‘Hey, we know you're at risk.’ I think that that always creates a barrier, being able to work with a family member to be able to get notice out and information out to them.”

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Can a toolkit introduced to oncology providers and cancer patients improve the rates of cascade genetic testing?

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Risk Management—What’s next after a positive test?

  • Guideline-based care discussions
  • Caveats to US and CA-125
  • Risk-reducing BSO?
  • Hysterectomy?
  • Salpingectomy with delayed oophorectomy
  • Preimplantation genetic testing?
  • Hormone replacement options
  • Combination Breast/Gyn surgeries
  • Colon screening or surgery
  • Pancreatic screening?

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Gyn Onc

Ob/Gyn

Breast Surgeon

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BRCA-associated breast and ovarian cancer risks

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Women choosIng Surgical Prevention

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Manuscript submitted

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SO-ROCk Trial here at Missouri Baptist

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Discussion topics

  • How does/should management of ovarian/fallopian tube health differ for patients who have had
    • breast cancer versus not?
      • ER/PR+ versus -
    • RRM versus breast surveillance?

  • Hormone replacement options in surgical considerations -- making sure our patients are hearing consistent messages about what is safe for both breast and gynecologic health

  • How do these trials fit in with combination breast/gyn surgeries?

  • How to best educate the community about these expanding options?

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Gynecologic Oncology Genetics Clinic

  • CAM13C
  • Started out of an urgent need to test our ovarian cancer patients, and a research interest
  • Multidisciplinary Dream
  • Current Team
    • 1 Gyn Onc MD with City of Hope training
    • Coordinator Chelsea Walker
    • Genetic counselors
      • Susan Jones and Rachita Nikam
    • Gyn Onc nursing and MA support
    • Every other Wednesday afternoon
  • Changing patient makeup
  • Epic: Ambulatory Referral to Gyn Onc
    • Genetics Clinic/Hagemann in comments

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Cancer Genetic Counseling Referrals�

In Epic: Ambulatory Referral to Pediatric Genetics

If you don’t have Epic: fax a referral to 844-965-9624

Dr. Patricia Dickson Rachita Nikam, CGC Susan Jones, CGC

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Cancer Genetic Counseling Clinic Locations

New North County location

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High Risk and Hereditary Breast Cancer Clinic�Amy Cyr, MD, FACS, Department of Medicine

  • Tuesdays
    • Siteman North County
    • 1255 Graham Road, Florissant
  • Wednesday afternoons
    • Siteman at Memorial Hospital East
    • 1418 Cross Street, Shiloh, IL
  • Thursdays
    • Siteman South County
    • 5225 Midamerica Plaza, Saint Louis

  • To place new patient referrals in Epic:
  • Ambulatory referral to oncology
  • Specify the location (currently there is no high risk breast provider at the CAM)
  • Add Dr. Amy Cyr as the provider to which you are referring

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Future Goals for Precision Cancer Prevention

  • Our Department of Ob/Gyn takes the lead in Precision Prevention
    • Hereditary Genetics
    • Weight management
    • HPV vaccination and cervical cancer prevention
  • Easy access to genetic testing and counseling for all
  • Improved electronic medical record and database management
  • Education
    • Continue outreach to promote awareness
    • Genetics cases at tumor board
    • Guideline-based checklists, more toolkits
  • Research
    • Grow clinical trials for prevention
    • Harness our strengths of busy clinical services and eager patient participation in clinical trials
  • Multidisciplinary Prevention Program—doesn’t have to/can’t be one clinic alone!

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Summary

  • Communication and collaboration between community practices and academic centers, and multidisciplinary collaboration for breast and gynecologic health, is of utmost importance to improve outcomes
  • NCCN guidelines are a starting point
  • Many options for hereditary cancer risk counseling and testing
    • Point of Care Testing in CAM and COH
    • Gyn Onc Genetics Clinic
    • Hereditary Breast Clinic with Dr. Cyr
    • Cancer Genetic Counseling through Department of Pediatrics
  • Growth opportunities for research, clinical training

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THANK YOU!

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Ovarian Cancer Screening Guidelines

  • Women with a risk near that of the general population (relative risk less than three times greater than that of the general public)
    • Ovarian cancer screening is not recommended. An annual gynecologic examination with pelvic examination is recommended for preventive healthcare.

  • Women with increased risk (relative risk of three to six times greater than that of the general public)
    • There is no clear evidence to suggest that ovarian cancer screening with currently available methods will result in a decrease in the number of deaths from ovarian cancer. If, after careful consideration of risks and benefits, ovarian cancer screening with serum markers such as CA-125 and/or transvaginal ultrasound is to be pursued, it is recommended that such screening be done within the framework of research studies to evaluate the efficacy of this approach.

    • Genetic counseling may also be helpful for women in this group to better clarify the risk of ovarian and related cancers.

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Who should have germline testing?

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Who should have germline testing?

Individuals meeting criteria but tested negative on previous limited testing

Prostate cancer histologies are expanded and include cribriform, high- and very-high-risk

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Who should have germline testing?

When testing is indicated because of family history of pancreatic or prostate cancer, it should only be offered to FDRs

Multiple cancers; don’t have to be bilateral

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New 2022 changes in germline testing eligibility

  • Testing criteria separated for breast, ovarian, pancreatic, and prostate cancer
  • TNBC at any age
  • Multiple (synchronous or metachronous)s breast cancers at any age

  • For women > age 50 with 2+ close relatives with breast or prostate cancer
  • To aid in surgical decision-making

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Caveats

  • Limited family structure
  • The possibility of more than 1 hereditary cancer syndrome
  • PRS are NOT yet appropriate for clinical decision-making
  • Autosomal recessive conditions and partner testing
  • Germline testing is needed to confirm actionable somatic testing findings

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We found a pathogenic variant. What’s next?�BRCA

Early detection: female

Age 18+ breast awareness

Age 25+ CBE Q 6-12 months

Age 25+ annual breast MRI

Age 30+ annual mammogram plus annual breast MRI

Age 30-35+ consider TVUS and CA-125

Age 75+ individualized

Surveillance is an acceptable option;

risk-reducing mastectomy is never mandatory, even for women with a breast cancer diagnosis

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We found a pathogenic variant. What’s next?�BRCA

Early detection: male

Age 35+ BSE

Age 35+ CBE Q 12 months

Age 40+ prostate cancer screening (recommended for BRCA2, consider for BRCA1)

Age 50+ (or 10 years prior to family male breast cancer) consider mammogram for men with gynecomastia

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ATMBARD1 (TNBC)�BRIP1 downgraded for breast cancer management, but RRSO is an option�CHEK2 CRC risk downgraded�NBN downgraded for breast cancer risk�NF1 phenotype = increased risk, increased surveillance ages 30-50�PALB2 (TNBC)�RAD51C/D (TNBC)�TP53 (+/+/+)

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Autosomal recessive conditions

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What are our responsibilities?

  • First, do no harm
  • Counsel appropriately on the limits of germline testing (non-actionability of some variants or genes, changing recs on others, etc)
  • Offer germline testing for patients with these newer indications
  • We can use this info to improve their outcomes and those of their families
  • Don’t forget autosomal recessive conditions!

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Test Everyone?

  • Cost effectiveness
    • The incremental cost-effectiveness ratio was below the willingness to pay threshold of £30,000/QALY (ICER = £21,599.96/QALY) in the UK, as well as $100,000/QALY (ICER = $54,769.78) in the US.
    • This translates to potentially preventing an additional 17,505 ovarian cancer cases and 64,493 breast cancer cases in UK women, and 65,221 ovarian cancer and 237,610 breast cancer cases in US women.
    • Australia: BRCA1/2, MLH1, MSH2, cystic fibrosis, spinal muscular atrophy and Fragile X Syndrome extremely cost effective
  • Quality of life non-inferior
  • Abbreviated genetic counseling
    • DVD-assisted counselling for PGT is non-inferior to face-to-face counselling for increase in knowledge; counselling satisfaction; risk perception and is equivalent for uptake. 98% found DVD length/information satisfactory. 85–89% felt it improved understanding of risks/benefits/implications/purpose of PGT. 95% would recommend it to others.

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