�Surviving, Previving, and Thriving:�Prioritizing Prevention for our Patients�
Andrea Hagemann, MD, MSCI
Associate Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology
Division of Gynecologic Oncology, Washington University School of Medicine
February 2022
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Disclosures
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Objectives
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J Clin Invest. 2014 Oct 1; 124(10): 4148–4151.
Discovery & History of BRCA1/2
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BRCA1/2 and Homologous Recombination Deficiency in Ovarian Cancer
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Case Studies
Inguinal lymph nodes
12 x 14 cm pelvic mass, ascites
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Sunni’s family history and treatment course
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Case Studies
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Case Studies
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Sandi’s family history and clinical course
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Strategies for Identification of Germline Mutations
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Palag Hasson et al. Pharmacogenomics and Personalized Medicine 2020:13
Breast Cancer
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Ovarian Cancer
Kathryn P. Pennington et al. Clin Cancer Res 2014;20:764-775
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Kastrinos et al, 2020, Gastroenterology Vol 158, No 2
Colon Cancer
Endometrial Cancer—Somatic
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Point-of-Care Testing in CAM13C Gyn Onc Clinics
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Barriers to Cascade Genetic Testing
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Barriers-Provider Factors
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Can a toolkit introduced to oncology providers and cancer patients improve the rates of cascade genetic testing?
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Mixed Methods Study with Introduction of a Toolkit
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Provider Interviews: Siteman Cancer Center
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How is testing currently being performed across Siteman?
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Facilitators
Theme | Exemplar quote |
No or low-cost testing helps overcome barriers to testing | “... the lab that we work with… will do free family testing for 150 days. That's Invitae. We also will often work with Ambry, and they are doing free family testing for 90 days, which is the more standard. Invitae expanded theirs because of COVID. That also helps overcome a potential barrier of cost.” |
Telehealth helps facilitate genetic counseling for family members | “...telemedicine… has made a huge difference in getting people testing that they wouldn’t otherwise have access...” |
Screening guidelines help providers determine appropriate action | “…if they [patients] don’t meet strict NCCN criteria but they have a family history, I’ll refer them to genetic counseling. If they meet the criteria based on NCCN, I typically will send off panel testing for them.” |
Department prioritization, when present, increases the frequency of testing | “We feel strongly about having it done… Actually, there’s… very few times, that I have had to do testing on someone who meets criteria because their surgeon, a lot of times, has already done it. I definitely think that comes down from just all our physicians being very good at what they do. Then I’m thinking the leadership probably has been very good at that as well.” |
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Cost, insurance coverage and insurance changes are key concerns for patients & families | “A lot of patients don't know what the cost will be for their family members. I know a lot of the testing centers will allow a family member to get abbreviated costs and stuff, but… a cost that's abbreviated may be okay for me, but not for you. Financial burdens are really real.” “...fear of persecution, or not being a candidate for life insurance policies, or affecting future healthcare coverage, and all of the things that we have to try to do to educate people about.” |
Health literacy and education are key determinants to family testing | “Some of these people are more plugged in and have an easier time navigating the health care system. Probably health care literacy. I would say that's probably the… biggest one [barrier].” |
Family dynamics influence communication and follow through for cascade testing | “…we will fairly often see disrupted family. If the patient doesn't communicate about other things, she's not going to talk to people about a sensitive topic like genetic test results.” |
Some patients and families feel fear around genetic testing | “I say “fear” because a lot of family members, they don’t wanna know, or they’re scared.” |
What are barriers to testing: Patient Level
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What are barriers to testing: Provider & system
Theme | Exemplar quote |
Dissatisfaction with EHR documentation systems for tracking genetic testing | “I'm not satisfied with how genetic testing results coming from companies is reported in Epic… what ends up happening is it gets into some random tab in media, or you get it set in some random genetic counsellors note, or your note or My Note has like an iPhone picture of something that doesn't fit into things.” |
Lack of systematic workflows for discussion & referral for cascade testing | “We don't have a really good systematic approach to it [cascade testing] because even if they do have an interest in it, then we gotta get them referred and make sure to follow up that they actually saw the counselors and got follow-up.” |
Lack of tools and resources makes it difficult to have conversations about cascade testing | “I just don’t have the language on the tip of my tongue. I don’t have like a package of resources, so that the patient could simply provide it to their family members, or have that conversation itself. I don’t think I empower my patients to go out and talk to their family and their relatives about it.” |
Difficult to contact family members for testing | “... there's the HIPAA aspects to it as well. Obviously we can't just cold call people and reach out and say, ‘Hey, we know you're at risk.’ I think that that always creates a barrier, being able to work with a family member to be able to get notice out and information out to them.” |
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Can a toolkit introduced to oncology providers and cancer patients improve the rates of cascade genetic testing?
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Risk Management—What’s next after a positive test?
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BRCA-associated breast and ovarian cancer risks
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Women choosIng Surgical Prevention
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Manuscript submitted
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SO-ROCk Trial here at Missouri Baptist
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Discussion topics
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Gynecologic Oncology Genetics Clinic
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Cancer Genetic Counseling Referrals�
In Epic: Ambulatory Referral to Pediatric Genetics
If you don’t have Epic: fax a referral to 844-965-9624
Dr. Patricia Dickson Rachita Nikam, CGC Susan Jones, CGC
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Cancer Genetic Counseling Clinic Locations
New North County location
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High Risk and Hereditary Breast Cancer Clinic�Amy Cyr, MD, FACS, Department of Medicine
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Future Goals for Precision Cancer Prevention
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Summary
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THANK YOU!
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Who should have germline testing?
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Who should have germline testing?
Individuals meeting criteria but tested negative on previous limited testing
Prostate cancer histologies are expanded and include cribriform, high- and very-high-risk
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Who should have germline testing?
When testing is indicated because of family history of pancreatic or prostate cancer, it should only be offered to FDRs
Multiple cancers; don’t have to be bilateral
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New 2022 changes in germline testing eligibility
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Caveats
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We found a pathogenic variant. What’s next?�BRCA
Early detection: female
Age 18+ breast awareness
Age 25+ CBE Q 6-12 months
Age 25+ annual breast MRI
Age 30+ annual mammogram plus annual breast MRI
Age 30-35+ consider TVUS and CA-125
Age 75+ individualized
Surveillance is an acceptable option;
risk-reducing mastectomy is never mandatory, even for women with a breast cancer diagnosis
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We found a pathogenic variant. What’s next?�BRCA
Early detection: male
Age 35+ BSE
Age 35+ CBE Q 12 months
Age 40+ prostate cancer screening (recommended for BRCA2, consider for BRCA1)
Age 50+ (or 10 years prior to family male breast cancer) consider mammogram for men with gynecomastia
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ATM� BARD1 (TNBC)�BRIP1 downgraded for breast cancer management, but RRSO is an option�CHEK2 CRC risk downgraded�NBN downgraded for breast cancer risk�NF1 phenotype = increased risk, increased surveillance ages 30-50�PALB2 (TNBC)�RAD51C/D (TNBC)�TP53 (+/+/+)
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Autosomal recessive conditions
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What are our responsibilities?
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Test Everyone?
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