Karori Connections
TR147-23 Glenmore Street & Chaytor Street & Karori Road, Karori – Transitional bike, bus and pedestrian improvements.
WCC Regulartory Process Committee Hearing
10 November 2023
v2
proposal
won’t look/feel like this!
parking
narrow carriageway
against pavement
wide
separators
Specifications translate to this …
Hazards for Botanic Garden patrons - Pedestrians balancing on raised, sloping, concrete separators,
and bikes between them and the pavement
Protection from parked vehicles removed
Busy, narrowed, downhill arterial road.
Hazards for pedestrians
Downhill traffic, right beside these children.
A perceived conflict between Open Space and Recreation Strategy and Transport Plans
Where do parked vehicles turn around so that they can head north again?
Where’s the analysis on impacts?
Right turning vehicles will obstruct all traffic behind them in the narrowed carriageway while they give way to oncoming traffic.
How will this impact the bus network?
Parallel-parking (reversing into a parking space) will disrupt following traffic.
Where’s the analysis?
Where parking is removed for cycle lanes, adjacent residential property access can be severely diminished; an outcome not too dissimilar to having a limited access road. What will WCC do to help these homeowners?
Issues in Glenmore St
Downhill traffic from Karori …
20230918 SCOOP Redesigning streets for the 60%
https://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=155243
Skye Duncan, the Executive Director of Designing Cities Initiative presentation to WCC.
1% of any population are “avid” cyclists who “ride no matter what” (fanatics).
7% are “confident cyclists” and
30% “never ride and you’re wasting your time trying to”.
“We’re not designing for them,”
“but for children, families and grandparents to accelerate the global cycling revolution. Re-imagining and re-inventing the streets of Wellington for the 60% who say they would ride but don’t feel safe”.
Video of the presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/live/pUtyOCnWeBE?si=Suu8xG6b09goL9Sf
Existing Ludlam Lane, immediately parallel to Glenmore St
Decision making
Such complex proposals have city wide implications, particularly as there are regional destination landmarks involved.
Why is such a complex and impactful proposal only a Regulatory Process Committee decision?
Why isn’t it a Full Council review; a Full Council decision?
end TRA presentation
Karori Connections
Richard Murcott
Ratepayer
TR147-23
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
KISS is a design principle which states that designs and/or systems should be as simple as possible.
Wherever possible, complexity should be avoided in a system as simplicity guarantees the greatest levels of user acceptance and interaction.
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WCC Commissioned
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Traffic from Karori (Tinakori Rd) … WCC’s changes causing more congestion
Ludlam Way and West Way in the Botanic Garden would seem to fit the bill perfectly for children, families and grandparents as an alternative to the awkward design for Glenmore St immediately adjacent.
Similar to the shared solution proposed in this
traffic resolution for Appleton Park:
Feedback from Tinakori Rd, Bowen St, etc
Existing West Way Lane exit onto Glenmore St
View from Orangi Kaupapa Rd of the existing West Way Lane exit on Glenmore St
Consistent with the proposal for a new path in Appleton Park, extend the Botanic Garden path by 110m. There is already an informal path through here.
The exit would then be beside No.111 Glenmore St.
‘... utopian image is under threat from e-bikes, according to four out of five Amsterdammers’
“… cyclists with pedal assistance are racing everywhere. That often just doesn’t fit on bike paths.”
(Dutch Cyclists' Union)
‘... the rise in battery-powered models, which share cycling lanes, leads to more accidents.’