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Lecture 21�Realizing Existence as Co-existence at All Levels

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Harmony in Existence

Existence = Exist + Essence

Whatever ↓ ↓

Exists is/to be harmony (mutual fulfillment)

Existence = Co- Existence = Units submerged in Space

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Harmony in Existence:

Units are identified by its boundary, limitedness

They appear to be separate from each other, in isolation from each other;

So, when we focus on units only, we see the isolation, the separateness, dividedness.

Now, are they divided, isolated or are they related?

We have seen that they are related, then what is the basis of relationship?

To understand this, we have to understand the reality which remains undivided in the these divided units- and that is Space,

So, we need to understand the Space also.

Existence = Co- Existence = Units submerged in Space

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Harmony in Existence

Existence =

Units Submerged in Space Ever Present

Limited in Size Unlimited

(All Pervading)

Activity, Active No Activity

1. Energized in Space

2. Self organized in Space

3. Recognizes it's relationship,

Fulfills its relationship with every other Unit in Space

CO-EXISTENCE

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In Body In Self (I)

ORDER

UNITS

Interaction

(activity)

Respiration

Sensation & Assuming

Knowability

&

Knowing

Physical

Air, water, soil, metal

Yes

Bio

Plants, Trees

Yes

Yes

Animal

Animals, Birds

Yes

Yes

Yes

Human

Human Beings

Yes

Yes

Yes

Need to know

&

Potential to know

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3.1.2. Knowledge of Existence

Existence

Ever Present

Units Submerged in Space

Limited in Size Unlimited - All Pervading

Activity, Active No Activity

Material Consciousness

Recognizing, Knowing, Assuming,

Fulfilling Recognizing, Fulfilling

Ever

Temporary Continuous Unbounded in Time & Space

¾ Co-existence

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Role of Education-Sanskar

ORDERS

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UNITS

ACTIVITY

INNATENESS

(Self-organisation)

INHERITANCE

Physical

Soil, Metal

Formation-Deformation

Existence

Constitution based

Bio

Plants, Trees

"-“ + Respiration

" + Growth

Seed based

Animal

Animals, Birds

"-“, " in Body

Selecting-Tasting in I

", " in Body

Will to live in I

Breed based

Human

Human Beings

"-“, " in Body

Imaging,

Analyzing-Comparing,

Selecting-Tasting in I

Potential for Understanding in I

", " in Body

Will to live with continuous happiness in I

Right Feeling

Right Understanding

Education-Sanskar based

Human Education-sanskar

Next Generation

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Right Understanding &

Right Feeling

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Unlimited

No activity

Bio Order

Temporary

Recognising, Fulfilling

Continuous

Knowing, Assuming, Recognising, Fulfilling

Consciousness (Self)

Units (Nature)

Space (All-pervading)

Material

Physical Order

Molecule

Atom

Molecular Structure

Lump

Fluid

Human Body

Animal Body

Cell

Plant

Animal Order

+

Limited in size

Activity, Active

Self-organized

Energized

Recognises the relationship and fulfills

Human Order

No Development

Cyclic

Definite Human Conduct

Development

Linear – Not Cyclic

Existence

(= Co-existence = Units submerged in Space)

This is already in harmony

Only this part is remaining

And it has to happen in the Self by the Self

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Unlimited

No activity

Bio Order

Temporary

Recognising, Fulfilling

Continuous

Knowing, Assuming, Recognising, Fulfilling

Consciousness

Units (Nature)

Space (All-pervading)

Material

Physical Order

Molecule

Atom

Molecular Structure

Lump

Fluid

Human Body

Animal Body

Cell

Plant

Animal Order

Limited in size

Self-organized

Energized

Recognises the relationship and fulfills

Human Order

Existence

(= Co-existence = Units submerged in Space)

+

+

Universal Order

सार्वभौम व्यवस्था

(Self)

No Development

Cyclic

Development

Linear – Not Cyclic

Activity, Active

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Unlimited

No activity

Bio Order

Temporary

Recognising, Fulfilling

Continuous

Knowing, Assuming, Recognising, Fulfilling

Consciousness

Units (Nature)

Space (All-pervading)

Material

Physical Order

Molecule

Atom

Molecular Structure

Lump

Fluid

Human Body

Animal Body

Cell

Plant

Animal Order

+

Limited in size

Activity

Self-organized

Energized

Recognises the relationship and fulfills

Human Order

Existence

(= Co-existence = Units submerged in Space)

Composition – Decomposition

Cyclic

Development

PHYSICS

CHEMISTRY

BOTANY

ZOOLOGY

MEDICAL SCIENCE

MANAGEMENT

SOCIOLOGY

PSYCHOLOGY (B2 now)

PHILOSOPHY (B1 correctly)

ECONOMICS

TECHNOLOGY

POLITICAL SCI

HISTORY

DHARM NEETI (RIGHT UTILISATION)

Desh-Disha-Kaal

GEOGRAPHY (Desh, Disha)

HISTORY (Kaal)

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Sum Up

Existence is in the form of co-existence. It is ever present

(Existence = Co- Existence = Units submerged in Space)

 

Every unit in existence is related with every other unit in existence in a mutually fulfilling manner

Synergy is intrinsic to existence, harmony is inherent in existence – we do not have to create it, we do not have to construct it

The role of Human Being is to realize this co-existence, this harmony, this order in existence.

For this, all that human beings need to do is:

    • To understand the inherent harmony, the co-existence in existence
    • To live accordingly – to live with the feeling of harmony or co-existence (and there is every provision in existence for living in co-existence)

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Self Reflection�����

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Self Reflection

  1. Is Nature/Existence self organized or is it a chaos?

  • Is struggle inherent in Nature/Existence or is there co-existence?

  • Is there survival of the fittest in Nature/Existence or is there mutual fulfilment?

  • Have we recognised our self, our needs / goals correctly?

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Sum Up

Existence is in the form of co-existence. It is ever present

(Existence = Co- Existence = Units submerged in Space)

 

Every unit in existence is related with every other unit in existence in a mutually fulfilling manner

Synergy is intrinsic to existence, harmony is inherent in existence – we do not have to create it, we do not have to construct it

The role of Human Being is to realize this co-existence, this harmony, this order in existence.

For this, all that human beings need to do is:

    • To understand the inherent harmony, the co-existence in existence
    • To live accordingly – to live with the feeling of harmony or co-existence (and there is every provision in existence for living in co-existence)

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Gist

Level State Expression .

Existence Co-existence Universal Human Order

Human Being Realization Evidence, Authentication

In Mutual relationship Love, Compassion Undivided Society

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FAQs for Lecture 21

Realizing Existence as Co-existence at All Levels

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Question(s): Units Response

  • What is fluid?

  • What is lump?

  • Fluid here is used to indicate the liquid that is used by the unit of bio-order for its nurturing; e.g. juice, water etc. are used by human being for nurturing his body.

  • Lump is gross aggregation of molecular structure or structures. For example, a rock, a log of wood, a piece of iron

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Question(s): Space Response

  • Why is space being called ‘shoonya’ (nothing)? Is space = nothing? Nothingness?
  • Unit is activity, but, space is ‘no-activity’. space is ‘no-activity’, therefore, it is called ‘kriya-shoonya’ or in brief ‘shoonya’ . So, space is ‘no-activity’, it is not an activity, not a unit, not a thing. In that sense it is called as nothingness- what it means is that it is not a thing, not a unit, an activity. It does not mean that it is not a reality.

It is a reality but, it is not a thing,

it is not a unit

it is not an activity

no-thing (not nothing)

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Question(s): Space Response

  • I am able to see the units, but not space. How to see the space?
  • before we respond to the question, let us try to understand what do we mean when we say “see”.

“see” means what the self is able to get about a particular reality. This certainly depends upon the level of activity of the self through which this seeing is done.

For example, when we are working at the level of selecting and tasting, then ‘seeing’ would mean what we are able to perceive through tasting, through 5 senses- sound, touch, sight, taste, smell; one of this being the form of the unit. So, seeing the form of an unit is just a part of the what we see through tasting, and this itself is part (one of the 5 levels) of activities of self.

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To See

Form (u1) = shape, size, density of unit1

Property (u1, u2) = effect of unit1 on unit2

= recognition-fulfillment by unit1 with unit2

Seeing through sensation Body + Self (I)

    • Form (shape, size, density…) Eyes, ears…
    • Some part of property (effect on other unit) Selecting-Tasting

Seeing what is rational Self (I)

    • Some part of property (effect on other unit) Selecting-Tasting, Analysing-Comparing

Seeing what is existential (essence) Self (I)

    • Natural Characteristic (participation in larger order) Contemplation
    • Innateness (self organisation) Understanding
    • Co-existence (submergence - of units in Space) Realisation

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Nature = Collection of Units = 4 Orders

Animal Order

Animals, Birds

Physical Order

Soil, Metal

Bio Order

Plants, Trees

Human Order

Human Being

Recognizing, Fulfilling

Recognizing, Fulfilling

Assuming,

Recognizing, Fulfilling

Assuming,

Recognizing, Fulfilling

Potential for Knowing, Assuming,

Recognizing, Fulfilling

Self (I) +

Body

Self (I) + Body

The presence of Self (I) is

indicated by ��1. the presence

of the activity of Assuming

2. Developed part of the Body that can communicate with the Self – Brain��3. Can take signals from HB

To understand the other three orders, right understanding of the Human Order is required,

otherwise over-evaluation, under-evaluation or otherwise-evaluation of the other orders keeps taking place.

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Question(s): Space Response

  • Why study something which has no activity?

  • Value is the participation in the larger order. So, what is the value of space? And if no value, then why to study it.
  • It is a reality (not something) which is ‘no activity’, but, in which every activity is taking place, through which every activity is related to every other activity, as discussed before.

  • Participation is defined wrt a unit, which is in the process of becoming, it has to participate in terms of certain activities at the level of this unit wrt to the activities in the other unit. When it comes to Space, it is complete in itself, it is not an activity, so, there is no process of becoming and hence, participation can not be defined in the sense we are talking about here. But, it is important to understand It as It is the base in which every activity is taking place, through which every activity is related to other activity.

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Question(s): Space Response

  • Space is omnipresent. Is it omnipotent too? If it is a systematic unfolding, then isn’t the co-existence the doer also?
  • Space is all-pervading, therefore, it is said to be omnipresent.

As regard omnipotent, let us try to understand the followings –

  1. Space is no-activity, therefore, it is not the one taking decision, in that sense it is not the “doer”.
  2. But, all the activities are taking place in Space, in co-existence in Space, in that sense it is at the base of all activities, all that is happening in nature.

As proposed, all that we see in nature, is the systematic unfolding of co-existence, of units submerged in space; in this sense, co-existence is the basic cause, fundamental cause of all that we see in nature. However,

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Question(s): Space Response

  • Space is omnipresent. Is it omnipotent too? If it is a systematic unfolding, then isn’t the co-existence the doer also?
  • …when we say doer, it involves taking a decision which is an activity of consciousness unit, which of course is an unit borne out of this process of unfolding of co-existence. So, the consciousness unit which is taking the decision is the doer.

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Question(s): Submergence Response

  • All units are supposed to be activity. If you look at a stone there is nothing going on in it, then how is a stone activity? Also how is it active, because it is not moving or anything?
  • All unit are activity, activity is going on in every unit. However, it may be gross or subtle. Depending upon our capacity to see, we are able to observe these activities (as discussed before). If we seeing at the lower level of activities of the self, then we can only see the gross activities, but, as we start seeing from higher and higher activities of the self, we can see subtler and subtler activities taking place in nature. At the level of understanding, we can see the subtlest activity, and at the level of realisation, we can even see the space which is no activity.

Now, when we look at the stone through lowest level of activity that tasting through sight, we do not see gross activity and therefore we conclude that there is no activity.

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Question(s): Submergence Response

  • All units are supposed to be activity. If you look at a stone there is nothing going on in it, then how is a stone activity? Also how is it active, because it is not moving or anything?

  • How can we say that unit is self-organized by virtue of co-existence?
  • …However, if we start analysing it, we can see that this stone is made of molecular structures binding together which itself is activity, further, these molecular structures themselves are activities and so on.

  • Let us look at earth, the earth is in space. It is self-organised in space, by the very design of co-existence, of units submerged in space. Is some one organising it? Similarly, look at an atom, the atom is in space, it is self-organised in space and it is recognising its relationship with other atoms and forming molecules. Now, are these atoms self-organised in space or someone is organising them?

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Question(s): Submergence Response

  • How are units recognizing if they do not have a Self?
  • As we have studied, while discussing about human being, that material units have activity of recognizing and fulfilling while consciousness units have activity of knowing and assuming over and above recognizing and fulfilling. So, as far as recognizing and fulfilling is concerned, it is there I every unit, whether material or consciousness; only for knowing and assuming, we need to have a self, the consciousness unit.

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Energy in Equilibrium (balance) Energy in non-equilibrium (relative)

No activity

Space

Energy is available to all (units)

All units are interrelated in space

Activity

Unit

Material Unit Conscious Unit

Interplay, exchange of energy

Recognises, fulfils relationship

Knowing, assuming

recognising, fulfilling

Min: primordial activity…

combining to form more and more complex activities (grosser)

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Question(s): Energy Response

  • Earth gets energy from the Sun. So, how is it self-energized?
  • Earth is revolving around its axis, is it because of the sun? further, earth is revolving around sun, is it because of the sun? what we are proposing is that the earth is energized in space, so there are certain activities going on in the earth, similarly, the sun is energized in space, so there are certain activities going on in the sun, and with that there is some recognition and fulfillment in relationship between the two because of which, there are certain activities taking place. So, each one of them have to be understood separately and then together.

Let us now ask- where is the sun getting energy from? From fission reaction, then where is hydrogen atom getting energy from? Ultimately, we have to say that hydrogen atom is energised in space.

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Question(s): Energy Response

  • The entropy of the universe is continuously increasing (second law of thermodynamics). That means it is leading to more and more disorderly state or chaos. How come we are saying existence is co-existence, is in harmony?

  • We need to reflect over this statement- “entropy of the universe is continuously increasing“. Does this apply to units belonging to all four orders or only to units belonging to physical order. For example, when a plant is assimilating food from soil and digesting it to make a part of it, is it getting more orderly or chaotic? Digested food becoming a part of the whole plant is certainly getting more organised, more in harmony with the plant then before; so, overall whether the orderliness, harmony is increasing or decreasing, this we have look deeper and try to understand. Now, when it comes to human being, what is naturally acceptable to us- harmony or disharmony, order or chaos? While going through the

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Question(s): Energy Response

  • The entropy of the universe is continuously increasing (second law of thermodynamics). That means it is leading to more and more disorderly state or chaos. How come we are saying existence is co-existence, is in harmony? …continued

  • ...process of understanding of harmony at all levels, we have seen that there is harmony at the level of first 3 orders, and human being has natural acceptance for being in harmony, and human being can also be in harmony by understanding the harmony in nature/ existence and living in harmony with it. So, the very design of nature/ existence is that of harmony, order and co-existence, not of disharmony, chaos and struggle. So, in the light of this, we have to relook at the the statement- entropy of the universe is continuously increasing.

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Question(s): Time Response

  • What is time?
  • Time has to defined in respect of two different types of realities- one which is not changing with time, another which is changing with time. When we are talking with respect to reality which is not changing with time, then we can only say that it is ever present wrt to time. On the other hand, when we are talking with respect to reality which is changing with time, then we can talk about time wrt the change in that reality; for example, if the earth is revolving around the sun, we can define one revolution of earth around the sun as one unit of time- a year in this case, if a pendulum is oscillating, we can define one oscillation of pendulum as one unit of time- one second and so on .

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Question(s): Time Response

  • There is impermanence? How is space ever present?
  • There is impermanence in the units of material as its form itself is changing. When it comes to unit of consciousness, its form (structure) is continuous in time. However, at the level of activities, there may still be some change. As far as activities of imagination is concerned, it may keep changing unless it is guided by the higher level of activities, particularly, the activity of realisation. So, There is permanence at the level of activity of realisation. Further, when it comes to space, it is no activity, therefore, there is no possibility of change anyway, hence, it is permanent in nature. In fact, space is invariant over both time and space.

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Temporary, Continuous and Ever-Present

Existence

Ever Present

Units Submerged in Space

Limited in Size Unlimited - All Pervading

Activity, Active No Activity

Material Consciousness

Recognising, Knowing, Assuming,

Fulfilling Recognising, Fulfilling

Ever

Temporary Continuous Unbounded in Time & Space

¾ Co-existence

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Unchaning and Changing

Space is unchanging

World of consciousness

    • Structure of the Self is not changing
    • The highest activities of the Self is not changing

    • The lower activities of the Self are changing (when they are not guided by the higher activities)

World of material is changing

+ primordial activity (mahat tatva) is unchanging

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Question(s): Time Response

  • If everything is going to end anyway, why bother? Just enjoy and be merry!

  • Not everything is going to end! As explained, the unit of consciousness continues to be and depending on whether its lower activities are guided by realisation or not, it is in a state of harmony and happiness or contradiction and unhappiness. If we desire for happiness in continuity, we have to keep working on awakening to the activity of realisation and ensuring that lower activities are in line with it. That will be a state of joy, state of bliss, otherwise we suffer in the hope of joy..

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Impermanence & Permanence (Ever Present)

Time Bounded Unbounded Unbounded

Size / space Limited Limited Unlimited

Material Consciousness Space

जड़ चैतन्य शून्य, व्यापक

Temporary Continuous Ever

अनित्य निरंतर नित्य

Activity Activity No Activity

क्रिया क्रिया क्रियाशून्य

Body Self (I) Space

Sensation

Physical Facility

Imparmanent "Permanent" Permanent

in time in time & space

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Living in the Present Living in the Ever Present

  • Regret of Past

  • Fear of Future

  • Opposition for Present
  • Evaluating Past on the basis of co-existence (no regret)

  • Planning Future on the basis of co-existence (fearlessness)

  • Living Now on the basis of co-existence (mutual fulfillment with units)

We tend to recall past when the present is not engrossing and �- some happy event (to draw happiness) or

- there is some regret

We tend to think of the future when the present is not engrossing and�- we want to plan for the future course of action or

- when there is an apprehension / uncertainty about the future

We tend to to be engrossed in the present when�- we are in harmony within and

- making effort for harmony outside

We are not engrossed in the present when�- we are in dis-harmony within

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Question(s): Sound, Vibration… Response

  • What is sound?

  • There are 5 senses in human being- sound, touch, sight, taste and smell (through ears, skin, eyes, tongue and nose). With respect to these 5 senses, we have categorised the external inputs into these 5 categories. So, sound is the activity (vibration) which is sensed by the ears. Later on, it is generalised for certain range of vibrations (described in terms of frequency and intensity).

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Question(s): Sound, Vibration… Response

  • They say that first there was sound… a primordial sound…

  • As we mentioned, there is whole range of activity ranging from very gross to very subtle. The subtle most activity which can be sensed by the self, (but, which can not be identified as definite unit) is called the primordial activity and the sound of this activity is called primordial sound. This primordial activity in space forms the basic building block for all the grosser activities, ultimately all the units in nature, in existence.

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Question(s): Creation Response

  • How did it all start? There is a theory of the Big Bang regarding creation.

One of the thesis is that this primordial activity in space forms the basic building block for all the grosser activities, ultimately all the units in nature, in existence. This co-existence of primordial activity in all-pervading space expresses itself in the form of grosser and grosser activities and all that we see in nature is the natural unfolding of this co-existence. One interesting thing about this thesis is that all the gross and the subtle activities are existing together and we can see them depending upon our level of activities of the self as mention before.

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Question(s): Creation Response

  • This existence is so big… unlimited and human being is so small. So how can we understand the whole existence?

Existence is big no doubt, but in essence it is units submerged in space, which can be realised by the self, further, units are of two types, material and consciousness, and they can be understood. Similarly all the units in nature can classified in terms of four order and they can be understood by human being. But, this is so for the essence; as far as description is concerned, that seems to be endless but, we can learn about the necessary details as and when required.

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Question(s): God Response

  • In all this, so far there is no mention of God. What is God, according to you?

There are two major notions of God.

One is God (with a big G)

= Space, the all pervading

(all pervading, but no activity, not a doer)

god (with a small g) i.e. god

= a Self with the right understanding and right feeling; a realized Self

It is a unit and not all pervading.

This god, as a realised self, can be source of inspiration for us

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Question(s): Response

  • Once a person dies, what happens to the Self?
  • What we can explore presently is that when we are there as human being, what is the status of the self and the body. Does the being of the self dependent on the body or the being of the self is there not depending on the activities of the body? Let us look at the activities of the self, like thought, we always keep thinking, whether we are interacting with body or not, even when we are not reading any sensation from the body or giving any instruction to the body, thinking goes on. When the body falls sick, activity of thinking does no go down. So, activities of the self is not dependent on the activities of the body.

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Question(s): Response

  • Bondage?

  • Salvation?

  • Swatantrata?

To live with sorrow.

Freedom from sorrow.

To live with continuous happiness.

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Question(s): Response

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Ishwar (Space):

  • is no activity, is not the doer
  • is constant energy, is not omnipotent
  • is reflecting, transparent, is not the knower. It is the ‘I’ who can know/ who knows.
  • has self-organization available, is not the organizer or controller.
  • is the basis of Atma to know the entire existence, in this sense it is Paramatma.

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Question(s): Response

  • How do you define theist and atheist

As I see it , theist is one who knows what exists and accepts, and atheist is one who assumes without knowing what doesn’t exist.

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