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Introduction to Venture and Pioneer Mining

Lasers Away!!!

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Class Rules

  • Please set your microphone to ‘push-to-talk’ (PTT) or mute in Mumble
  • Feel free to ask questions in:
    • “Class (EUni)” or in the Class Question channel in Discord during or after class. Remember to preface your question with a “Q” so they are easier to see. (i.e.: “Q” Why does EVE use meters instead of feet?)
    • On Mumble whenever there are open comms (usually at the end of class during Q&A).
    • Stay safe during class (docked-up is preferred).

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Class Overview

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  • There will be an optional Practical after the lecture. You’ll need a T1/T2 Venture or a Pioneer & the E-Uni Overview loaded.

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  • What we are covering
    • Types of mining
    • High-Sec mining and High-Sec ores
    • What, when and where to mine
    • Venture/Pioneer Mining Fits
    • Skills
    • Staying Alive
    • What to do with your ore

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Class Overview

  • We will not be covering
    • Advanced mining ships and equipment
    • Low-Sec/Null-Sec/Wormhole mining
    • Refining/Processing
    • Gas/Ice/Mercoxit mining

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Why Mine?

  • It takes ore to build everything in EvE. This is where the food chain in EVE begins. Without ore nothing gets built. There is always a demand.
  • "Easy” ISK per hour
    • Ore is easy to find (it’s everywhere), easy to extract
    • Pretty low risk (not no risk) – decent reward
  • The downside is mining is rarely exciting and it’s time consuming.

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Types of Mining

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  • Solo Mining
  • Fleet Mining (Compression is generally available in fleets)
    • BYOC (Bring Your Own Can)
      • You keep what you mine
      • Boosts/Compression generally available
      • Can be formal or impromptu
    • Shared Can
      • The FC keeps the ore and you get paid based on time you mine, not how much you mine
      • Organized, watch the forum, event calendar and #ping-mining in Discord
      • Boosts/Compression are available

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Ores

  • What can the Venture and Pioneer mine? Ore (Asteroid & Moon) and Gas only.
  • Ore is what you mine. Refine the ore and you get minerals, that’s where the ISK is.
  • The value is in the ‘units’ of ore mined not the volume.
  • Asteroids/Ore
    • Different Empires, different ores
      • Gallente & Minmatar space – Veldspar, Plagioclase, Scordite
      • Amarr space – Veldspar, Pyroxeres, Scordite
      • Caldari space – Veldspar, Plagioclase, Pyroxeres, Scordite

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Ores

  • Ore ‘unit’ size and ore grade ( https://ore.cerlestes.de/ore )
    • Each ore type has a physical ‘unit’ size and three ‘grades’
      • Veldspar (the most common ore) unit size=0.1m3 (contains Tritanium)
        • Veldspar = Base ore
        • Veldspar Grade II = +5% Tritanium content
        • Veldspar Grade III = +10% Tritanium content
  • You are paid by the ‘units’ of ore/mineral (not the volume) and the ‘grade’ influences the unit price

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What, When and Where to Mine

  • What to mine?
    • For the Newbro; Veldspar Grades I, II, and III
      • Takes up less hold space, smallest unit size so more ISK per hold.
      • Has the best return per unit
      • https://ore.cerlestes.de/ore
  • When not to mine.
    • Don’t mine when:�
      • If there are Gankers in or on the way to the system or a large number of baddies or a lot of recent kills in system
      • If there is a Pirate Stronghold in system ( https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Stronghold )
      • Use your best judgment

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What, When and Where to mine

  • Where to mine

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    • Mine where the ore you're looking for is at ( https://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Stacmon )

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    • Mine in dead-end systems. Dead-end systems tend to be safer and have more 5% and 10% ore.

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    • Lower security = more quality asteroids and belts.

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    • Avoid super busy systems ( like Stacmon )*

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    • Avoid known ganker systems ( like Stacmon )*

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    • Systems can be mined out or over-mined ( like Stacmon )*

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What, When and Where to mine

  • Scan your target!

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    • Filter what you want: value, volume or distance.
    • Alt+Click will show you the target and you can check if there are already 2 beams on it (Don’t touch other players food!)
    • Ctrl+Click will target what you want, and you can start munching those tasty rocks!
    • You need to have equipped the module “Mining Survey Chipset” to be able to see the details of each rock.

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What, When, and Where to mine

  • Scan your target!
    • When scanning down your asteroid belt the value of the ore will be color-coded from Blue to Gold. Blue being the lower value and gold being the higher value ore to focus. as shown in the photo.

Scanning Button

Gold color to indicate value

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What do the numbers mean?

  • When mining a lot of numbers can pop up on your HUD and can be a few different colors. We will cover the need to knows right now and cover the more advanced options later.
    • White - Basic Units Gathered
    • Yellow - Critical Yield (Advanced topic)
    • Red - Residue
  • Residue can be simply explained as WASTED ORE. Residue takes away from the initial amount of rock you are mining.
    • Example 1: A rock contains 100 units, you mined 10 with a residue of 0 so the rock now has 90 units left.
    • Example 2: A rock contains 100 units, you mined 10 with a residue of 10 so the rock now has 80 units left.
  • Always look at the yield/residue ratio and see what works for you! Speed or Overall amount of ore.

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T1 vs Meta vs T2 Modules

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Mining Lasers

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T1

Meta

Meta

T2

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Miner I

EP-S Gausian

Particle Bore

Miner II

Mining Amount

40m3

50m3

50m3

60m3

Cycle

60 sec

60 sec

60 sec

60 sec

Activation

20.0 GJ

20 GJ

20 GJ

70 GJ

Range

10 Km

16 Km

11 Km

12 Km

Cost

10,000 ISK

9,000 ISK

6,000 ISK

850,000 ISK

Residue

0%

0%

0%

34%

Mining Laser Upgrade

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T1

Meta

T2

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Mining Laser Upgrade I

Elara Restrained

Mining Laser Upgrade II

Bonus

5%

8%

9%

CPU Penalty

10%

8%

12.5%

Cost

44,000 ISK

18,000,000 ISK

850,000 ISK

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Venture Mining Frigate

  • Venture is very cheap and even free!

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  • Venture has great bonuses to mining and safety

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  • Doesn’t have a high skill requirement

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  • Easy and inexpensive to upgrade

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  • Flexible, mine ore and gas.

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  • Available prebuilt on contract from EUni for free!!

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+5% Mining Yield*

-5% Gas Cloud Scoop time*

* per Mining Frigate Skill Level �Role bonus:�100% bonus to Mining and Gas Cloud Scoop yield

2+ bonus to ship warp core strength�

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T1 Ore Mining Venture

T1/Meta Venture Build

  • All T1 modules
  • Minimum Skills required (25 minutes)

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    • Spaceship Command 1
    • Mining Frigate 1
    • Drones 1
  • Improved Skills (maybe 2 hours)

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    • Mining 2
    • Mining Upgrades 1
    • Hull Upgrades 1
    • Shield Management 1
    • Shield Upgrades 1
    • Drones 2
    • Light Drone Op. 1

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EP-S Gaussian Scoped Miners

Mining Laser I Upgrade

Small F-S9 Shield Extender

2x Hobgoblin I Drones

1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

T1 Rigs

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Pioneer Mining Destroyer

  • Provided by the Uni on the Flight Deck or by participating in the Sisters of EvE epic arc.�
  • Not costly for the worth of the ship. ~3 million at the nearest trade hub.�
  • Improvements to overall ISK per hour.�
  • Larger ore hold�
  • Required skills: (~1D 15HRS)
    • Mining Destroyer I
    • Mining IV
    • Industry III
    • Mining Frigate III�

20% bonus to Mining range*

10% bonus to Mining yield*

5% reduction in Gas Cloud Scoop duration*�*Per Destroyer skill level�Role Bonus:�50% bonus to Mining yield

25% reduction in Gas Cloud Scoop duration

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T1/T2 Ore Pioneer

  • A mix of Meta and T2 modules to increase performance while staying within Alpha limits.
  • This fit is made with the maximum stats of Alpha clones regarding CPU and Powergrid. T1 Modules can be used if skills are not met.
    • Mining upgrades
    • Powergrid Management
    • CPU management
  • You may also use tier 2 drones if you have taken the time to learn them along your progression. The more protection the better!�

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Staying Safe

  • Do not AFK mine

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  • Local Chat
    • Who is in system and are they a baddie
    • Watch out for ‘flashies’ or red Bad Standing players in system
    • Look for new arrivals
    • Know the locals
    • Look at player names, ‘Hacksaw Jones’ is probably someone you want to be careful around.
    • Watch player count in local
    • Pop-out the ‘Local’ chat
  • D-Scan, D-Scan, D-Scan
    • What ships are in system, are they close
    • Can you match up individuals in local chat to ships
    • Take D-Scan class

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Staying Alive !!!!!

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14 Mining Ships in 6 days in Slays / Stacmon!!

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Staying Alive

  • Drones out

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  • Mine in a group or fleet

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  • Aligning out vs. orbiting vs. doing nothing

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  • Maintain Situational Awareness!!!

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  • Understanding Player Security Status

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  • Watch ‘Local’ chat

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  • Watch D-Scan

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I’ve got a hold full of ore, now what?

  • Options for your ore

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    • Sell the raw ore on the open market. Lowest profit option for newbros.

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    • Sell ore to E-Uni Buyback service. You are paid mineral not ore value.

( https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Buyback ) ( https://ore.cerlestes.de/ore )

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    • Refine it and keep or sell the minerals

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      • E-Uni Perfect Refine List (https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Perfect_Refine_List ). Usually a 10,000 ISK for contracting minerals back to you + costs.

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      • Refine it yourself. Not a good option unless you have excellent refine skills.

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    • Stockpile for later

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I’ve got a hold full of ore, now what?

  • When mining it’s important to know the stations and structures nearby! Having this knowledge can save you time and time is ISK.
  • Once your hold is full you have a couple options:
    • Dock up in the nearest NPC station to drop off your ore.
    • Dock in the nearest player structure and utilize compression for easier moving after your session.
  • To find structures nearby simply access your NEOCOM menu, go to UTILITIES, STRUCTURE BROWSER, select SERVICE FILTER, and locate a REPROCESSING PLANT. You’ll learn more about Compression and other services later on!

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COMPRESSED

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Links

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Optional After Class Practical

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  • More on being safe

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  • High-Sec Mining Etiquette

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  • Jet Cans

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  • Boosts & Compression

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  • Mine some ore

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  • Fleet Mining

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  • Anything else attendees want

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Q&A

Class Feedback Form

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