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Panel Discussion

First COMETA workshop on artificial intelligence for multi-boson physics, Nihkef, Amsterdam, NL

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Today’s session

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Today’s sessions - Objectives

  • Discuss open problems & brainstorm on best AI/classical tools
  • Focus on two/three main areas:
    • Flavour tagging
    • Jet Substructure
    • (Polarisation) [linked to other COMETA activities]
  • How can COMETA effectively help improve state-of-the-art ?
    • What tools/datasets do we need to foster collaborations ?
    • In which areas can we improve/complement existing effort ?

  • Practicalities - concerning size of datasets, speed of inference, calibration etc.
  • Performance - ideas for improvement, new models, links with theory, conditioning, bias etc.
  • Physics - effect/dependence of these algorithms on results, which information is learned, which measurements might help etc.

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FLAVOUR TAGGING

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Advances in experiment and theory

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Advances in experiment

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Differentiable programming [2310.12804]

Mask Former [2312.12272]

Foundation models [2405.12972]

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Trigger developments in ATLAS & CMS

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Wealth of activity … ready to be expanded

  • Flavour- and jet-tagging showcase impact of ML for LHC physics
  • Progress in theory and experiment (offline and trigger)

  • Many developments done within experimental collaborations (with data), but many results showcasing capabilities of new algorithms
  • Can we define and share datasets to foster further collaborations?
    • Is Monte Carlo good enough / easy enough to obtain ?
    • Or, is data essential ? (And how to obtain such datasets ?)
    • What can we do within experimental collaborations (or outside) ?

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WHAT CAN WE DO WITHIN COMETA?

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  • Practicalities - concerning size of datasets, speed of inference, calibration etc.
  • Performance - ideas for improvement, new models, links with theory, conditioning, bias etc.
  • Physics - effect/dependence of these algorithms on results, which information is learned, which measurements might help etc.

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JET SUBSTRUCTURE

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Very active area of development

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Algorithms comparison CMS

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Wealth of activity … ready to be expanded

  • Jet physics extremely important at LHC
  • ML is ubiquitous for reconstruction and calibration
    • Will require lots of ingenuity … and external expertise

  • Many developments done within experimental collaborations (with data), but many results showcasing capabilities of new algorithms
  • Can we define and share datasets to foster further collaborations?
    • Is Monte Carlo good enough / easy enough to obtain ?
    • Or, is data essential ? (And how to obtain such datasets ?)
    • What can we do within experimental collaborations (or outside) ?

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WHAT CAN WE DO WITHIN COMETA?

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  • Practicalities - concerning size of datasets, speed of inference, calibration etc.
  • Performance - ideas for improvement, new models, links with theory, conditioning, bias etc.
  • Physics - effect/dependence of these algorithms on results, which information is learned, which measurements might help etc.

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POLARISATION

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Polarisation(-aware) taggers for hadronic vector bosons

COMETA workshop on vector-boson polarisations [https://indico.cern.ch/e/1371888/]

  • Amplitude-assisted tagging of longitudinally polarised bosons using wide neural networks [2306.07726]: use amplitude to extract theory parameters / pseudo observables from data (talk by M. Pellen)
  • Experimental perspectives for polarisation tagging (talk by A. Giannini)
    • Time to tackle hadronic decays of V bosons…

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Wealth of activity … ready to be expanded

  • Can we define and share datasets to foster further collaborations?
    • Is Monte Carlo good enough / easy enough to obtain ?
    • Or, is data essential ? (And how to obtain such datasets ?)
    • What can we do within experimental collaborations (or outside) ?

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WHAT CAN WE DO WITHIN COMETA

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  • Practicalities - concerning size of datasets, speed of inference, calibration etc.
  • Performance - ideas for improvement, new models, links with theory, conditioning, bias etc.
  • Physics - effect/dependence of these algorithms on results, which information is learned, which measurements might help etc.