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The Holy Grail Trading System
James Windsor
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All Rights Reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced in any form or by any
means, including scanning, photocopying, or otherwise without prior written permission of the
copyright holder. Copyright James Windsor © 2013
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Table of Contents
Introduction
It Begins
The Birth of 'Grail'
The Diary
The Spread Betting Liars!
Month 1: October 2005
Month 2: November 2005
Month 3: December 2005
Month 4: January 2006
Month 5: February 2006
Month 6: March 2006
Month 7: April 2006
Month 8: May 2006
Month 9: June 2006
Month 10: July 2006
Month 11: August 2006
Month 12: September 2006
Month 13: October 2006
Month 14: November 2006
Month 15: December 2006
Month 16: January 2007
Month 17: February 2007
The Last Post
Final Notes
Appendix 1: The Grail System
Appendix 2 - Trading Sheets
October 2005
November 2005
December 2005
January 2006
February 2006
March 2006
April 2006
May 2006
June 2006
July 2006
August 2006
September 2006
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October 2006
November 2006
December 2006
January 2007
Resources
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Introduction
There are many great stories in the history of trading that have significance.
George Soros making a billion dollars betting against the Bank of England in 1992 which
caused the UK to pull out of the Exchange Rate Mechanism.
The rise and fall of Long Term Capital Management (LTCM), what was thought to be the best
trading house on the planet.
The fall of Lehman Brothers during 2008 where what was once the 4th largest investment bank
in the US.
JP Morgan also faced a £4billion loss in 2012 but managed to stay alive.
There are dozens more true stories like this with many being turned into major motion pictures.
Scholars and statisticians have studied these cases to find out what went wrong and what
lessons can be learned.
This book isn't about a story with that magnitude. It covers one true story that you most likely
have not heard of. That's because it didn't involve public money or have a major impact on the
world.
Pension funds did not fall and the federal bank never had to intervene. Alan Greenspan never
knew about this tale.
That’s because it's the story of ordinary people that wanted to earn money by trading the
financial markets and had a fairly large target. If you are an ordinary retail trader then this
book is one which you really should read because you will identify with it personally.
It's the story behind a team, an experiment and a trading system called 'Grail'.
Many ordinary traders just like you watched this story unfold in 2005 - 2007. It gave them
hope that trading was a way for them to escape the drudgery that engulfs most people in our
capitalist society; a way to beat the system.
Retail traders try system after system, one chart pattern after another, the latest indicator and
auto trading robot all in the hope of finding the one that makes them millionaires. This was one
that almost made it into the history books.
It fulfilled all the dreams of those traders. It was 100% mechanical, was 100% automatic
through computer trading and it worked over a long time period.
The original blog on which this story is based is still online, time stamped for all to see but
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what you won’t see is the story behind the unfolding posts.
That story along with each post from that blog is revealed in this book for all to see. Month by
month; post by post and trade by trade. You will be reading the views of the main player in
this game looking back on what happened and commenting on what went wrong.
You will also discover the exact system that was used and how deceptively simple it was.
You have the opportunity to try the system for yourself and possibly find a way forward with
it.
The story is a double edged sword. The system did make money and shedloads of it but was
only saved by withdrawing from it in the nick of time.
This book actually reveals the details that we have kept a very closely guarded secret for 10
years. You will find out at the end of the book exactly what the system is, its parameters and
the changes we made. Don't skip to that section though until you have read it all. You won't
see the true power of simplicity until you understand the whole story.
I hope that you enjoy the book, but most of all hope that you will learn some lessons. If you
manage to make the system work the way that we made it work, then all the best to you but
please do let me know.
Let’s turn the clock back and begin...
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It Begins
"We'll make how much!!?"
I can remember those words from one of the team that was working on this project. As we
pulled together the final results from our system testing it was music to all of our ears and
exactly what we wanted to hear.
We were a team of wannabe millionaire traders that were searching for the 'Holy Grail'; a
trading system the delivered consistent results month in, month out over a long period.
It all started in 2003 inside an Internet chat room on a website called moneytec.com. Part of
the website was a live chat room where inexperienced day traders exchanged ideas and trades
as they went through their daily quest for riches.
We were all inexperienced traders at the time, trying to find a way forward in this jungle that
is the foreign exchange currency market. We all wanted the easy money, earning thousands a
month so we could all retire to the sun. It's the dream of most people that enter this arena,
attracted by flashy websites extolling countless opportunities for making money and tales of
multi-millionaire traders.
The Internet is awash with pictures of someone lazing in a deckchair on the beach with the sea
just a few feet away shimmering in the sun. The person in the deckchair has a laptop on a
small table to their right and a straw hat on their head. A cool drink catches the sunlight and
makes the lens flare on the photograph.
The reality of choosing to trade the markets is something quite different. It consists of someone
hunched over a desk staring at several screens till their eyes hurt and the pungent odour of
curry farts lying in the air from yesterday’s takeaway. Welcome to the real world of a retail
trader.
Please allow me to introduce you to the team in our story. The names of all participants have
been changed to protect the identity and privacy of the people involved.
Firstly there was me. I was known as 'Soultrader' on the forums and chat rooms and was an
Internet entrepreneur. At the time I ran an Internet business utilizing eBay, QXLAuctions and
several websites through which I'd peddle software, games and e-books. In some circles I was
a trading guru, in others I would later be seen as a charlatan having sold a few trading systems
to wannabe traders; once a saleman always a salesman. Truth is that some found it hard to
follow water down a plughole let alone simple trading instructions.
I first entered the world of trading when a guy that had written a book on it bought a product
from me. I had also seen a recent BBC TV programme showing this bunch of happy people on
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a train sipping champagne. The programme covered how they were making money by 'Spread
Betting' on the financial markets. Whilst on a short train journey one of the people on the train
had made over £1000 from point A to point B all in the space of around an hour.
I started selling the ebook I had read for the author as I was pretty good at marketing things and
of course I read it. Having finished the book I don't think any self respecting entrepreneur could
have done so without deciding to 'have a dabble' and so I did.
It was a decision that would change my life.
I began by trading the Dow Jones index and the occasional FTSE 100 trade and it's whilst
doing that I met the second member of our future team.
Kev was based in New York and was a trading dynamo. Born to affluent Jewish parents he
had his eyes set on Wall Street as a career. His parents were both professionals in law and
very successful too. Kev had a lot to measure up to.
Kev entered the markets in traditional American style, with a whoop whoop and lots of noise.
Aged only 22 when we first encountered each other he was the perfect age and had the right
level of aggression and testosterone to either do well in the game; or to crash and burn
quickly. Youth is a double edged sword in this world where fortunes are made on the toss of a
coin.
Eventually we both moved into the currency markets. At this time in its history the 'Forex'
(FOReign EXchange) market had beautiful trends that went on for weeks at a time. It was
attractive to trend traders like us and eventually we made a complete move into this new arena.
Most of the people in the chat room were Forex traders. Some of them already had strong
followings. 'Bunnygirl' was a forty something welsh lady that just loved to share her 'Bunny
Cross' strategy, a simple moving average crossover with a twist. Over time we would become
both friends and occasionally adversaries. In those days I was very arrogant and was lacking
the real skill that a trader needed; that being humility in the face of the markets.
Bunnygirl did join our group for a while but she was happy to trade in her own way, doing a
bit here and a bit there so the connection gradually weakened over time. Thinking back it must
have been an uncomfortable place for her to be when there were so many strong personalities
together wanting to make millions.
Angel was a trader living in Australia. Based in Adelade this true lady was a professional in
the health field and her reasons for trading were to prop up her future pension in addition to
her dream of living in Nice in the South of France. Angel was to become a pivotal contributor
in the future when we began testing and tweaking our trading system.
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Martin was based in the UK in Leeds. Martin is a great guy and remains my main trading
partner today. It was his initial system that our new system was to be based on.
Martin was extremely analytical. Previous to entering the markets he had made over two
million in the casinos by studying roulette and working out a system to beat it. Add some
electronic wizardry and he could walk into any casino anywhere in the world and make money
on the spin of a wheel.
Martin's skill was number crunching and chart study. If you needed a system back testing he
would go through a whole year of one minute charts and come up with all the figures you
needed. Drawdown, win / loss ratio, percentage gains, everything. Truth be known, the guy is
a genius but he'd blush if you said that and reply with "I just look at the numbers"
He was also a master at chess, having played with some of the best players in the world in his
younger days.
The final major contributor was a guy called Tony. He came from London and had a
background in computer programming. He was a programming genius. In his early days he
was the person that designed and made the old 'squawk boxes' in the trading rooms of London.
(Before the Internet speed increases of the new millenium squawk boxes were the primary
method of communication in the trading houses of the world).
Tony loved programming. At one point he had what he called an automatic arbitrage scraper,
a program that compared the prices of two brokers and when there was a mismatch he would
trade the difference. He was banned from Oanda and several other brokers for having the
ability to execute trades in milliseconds. During news trades his trades would be in just split
seconds before the broker could react, and he could exit exactly at the top of a move before the
price turned.
One such robot he created just aimed to take 1-2 pips per trade when an arbitrage opportunity
presented itself. At one point in a single week he took a $500 account to $56,000. The broker
banned him and confiscated the account before he could get any money out. Tony was the
person behind the automation of our trading methods.
There were others involved including Whispy, Fluty and a couple of others that were along for
the ride. The core of the team was me, Martin, Angel and Tony.
The team was formed, the time was right...
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The Birth of 'Grail'
After a while we tired of the incessant chatter of the Moneytec chat room and decided to go it
alone. We needed a chat room with good quality audio and the ability to share screenshots.
At this time the choice was very limited but we were willing to pay for it so we signed up to a
service called ivocalize. It costs us all about $10 a month each for the service but the quality
was superb.
Of course these days there are much better services but it allowed us to share together and
speak together over the Internet - quite a rarity in 2004! Broadband had just come onto the
scene and was still unreliable.
We began by trading together in our usual way and we shared the various methods we used to
trade. Martin would analyse all the systems and crank his brain around the figures and then
share them with the group.
We bought, begged and borrowed literally hundreds of systems to test; most of them either lost
or were slightly above zero returns when studied properly. We were looking for something
that worked time and time again and had done for longer that a year.
Martin himself was actually trading a very simple system that the rest of us pooh poohed and
ignored. He took a certain trade at a certain time of day at a certain price and always took
profits at a certain level. It turned out to be around 70% efficient and it meant that he didn't
have strings of losses and if he did the losses were small.
Around 6 months into the room I started thinking about his system of trading and considering
the logic behind it. The thing was that we were all basically trend traders apart from Martin.
He just took his money off the table when the trade was winning and to us as trend traders that
was madness.
Often the trades he was in would go on for the rest of the day. From our perspective he was
leaving massive amounts of money on the table on those trending days.
So I started to think, how this system could be improved. Then we all got involved. We
purchased around five years of tick by tick data and the team gave suggestions as to how the
system could be improved. With each suggestion we would run tests using Metatrader 4 as the
backtesting software with the data we had purchased.
The system started to look good and we simplified it down until the backtest was showing
several years of good trading and then it was over to Martin to hand test the data that the
software had produced. Unless you've done hand testing yourself then you really have no idea
of the time and effort involved in this which is why we did not hand test every idea until it
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passed a computer test.
Martin worked day and night sat staring at a one minute chart going through it's motions at 10X
speed, making notes, filling in the numbers, plotting the trades. The first test took him around
10 days just to cover the last six months of trading. At this point he would report to us what
the results were and how closely they matched the simulation ran by software.
He would then go back to testing by hand and eventually we had around 18 months of hand
tested data for this system. The results had shown that the computer simulation using the data
we had bought was around 96% accurate. From this point on we knew we could rely on the
software to give us results with some element of authority.
To cut a long story short the system looked to be sound. The test showed that the system would
return an average of 20% per month and had survived over three years with a maximum
drawdown of around 35%. In the three year backtest the system had only produced a single
month with a loss.
The next thing was to actually trade it live.
I, Martin Angel and Whispy began trading the system with a £10,000 bank from 1st October
2005. By this time all apart from Whispy had been traders for a good few years.
The system was born. We christened it 'Grail' and I began to keep a diary online for us all to
share and for other traders to watch our experiment. The site was called '1000 Days to a
Million' and that's where much of this book comes from. I really have no idea why I chose the
title '1000 days' particularly when the target was two years! You will have to forgive me for
that one.
The following chapters are all taken direct from this diary along with my commentary as to
what was happening at the time and, with the wisdom of hindsight, where things began to
unravel.
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The Diary
Here we go then, our first few diary posts. You will no doubt notice the arrogance of a 'young'
trader (young as in experience and sadly not years)
Looking back and reading this post I am hit by the amount of confidence I had in this system.
That's what real hand tick by tick backtesting gives you. I wonder now if that confidence was
one of the mistakes we made or if without it the system might not have done as well as it was
destined to. .....
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September 25th 2005
Welcome to The Holy Grail Trading System!
What’s this all about?
‘Grail’ is a Forex investment strategy which we have found has almost no chance whatever of
losing based on a month by month basis. Note here that I said 'almost' as there has been one
losing month in the last 3 years.
It’s important to note here that the quest for a holy grail trading system has been every trader’s
pursuit since man began to trade the markets. The famous 'holy grail' would be a 100%
winning system with that analogy and as this does have losers then we cant add the tag 'holy' to
it :)
We don't class this as a trading system - we class it as an investment strategy and mentally
there is a difference. An investment is not something that you watch every 5 minutes on a chart
and an investment is not something that you expect large returns from immediately, day by day
or week by week as you would in a trading system.
This kind of strategy is not played by many in the Forex game as to be honest; it’s boring and
you have to have discipline of steel and determination to see it through to a conclusion. It's not
'get rich quick' its more 'get rich slow'
Grail returns can only be measured on a monthly and preferably 6 monthly basis.
Why this diary?
Our aim with this blog is to open a real money account on 1st October 2005 with £10,000 of
capital and turn it into £1,000,000 within 2 years using a method of compounding the equity
throughout that time.
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This site will be our yardstick to measure the effectiveness of the investment and to compare it
with the best hedge funds and investment vehicles available on the market today.
Following the publishing of our initial targets below we will publish on here screenshots of
the live account. Obviously account numbers and actual trade entry levels will be blanked out
but you will be able to see the account rise and fall during any given month by watching the
equity which will be shown in is entirety.
We feel that we may hit hurdles along the way - for example the burning desire to take out
some profit before the account comes to its fruition or maybe the temptation to add to the
account if it falls short of its monthly target. We don't want that to happen but it will be
interesting to see how we handle that.
There are also other problems we may come across. For example, as we live in the UK we
will be using spread betting companies to trade with and the one we have identified (capital
spreads) currently have a limit of £100 per pip allowed to be traded. This could be a serious
problem that hampers our progress in our compounding and we may find we have to open more
accounts or even switch altogether to a 'proper' Forex broker to continue (FYI £100 per pip is
roughly equivalent to 18 standard lots with a single lot being $100k)
it will be very interesting to see the responses we get from our spread betting company and we
will log our experiences here as we go through.
How do you know this will work?
The system has actually been traded for around 18 months with a different configuration to
great success. Our new parameters have been only forward tested for 3 months but does concur
with our 3 year backtest which was hand checked for accuracy and found to be within 3-4% of
actual results.
The backtest revealed that £10,000 invested in May 2003 would today be worth more than £2
million. The drawdowns were acceptable and so we are confident in its pedigree.
However it is worth noting that past performance can never be relied on for future actions and
this is why we are risking an initial pot of £10,000 and not loading it to the hilt with everything
we have.
Who is 'we'
There are two of us doing this both at the same time and with the same entries. The other
parties will remain anon.
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rarely felt that level about anything in my life since!
This next post was interesting too, particularly noting my attitude to a 10:1 leverage -
something I now consider to be excessive on all but the 'sure thing' trades.
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Friday September 30th 2005
Ok, Monday the 3rd of October marks the first day of The Million Pound Grail Experiment.
Below is a screenshot from my Capital Spreads account - I have five broker accounts in total
but from Monday this particular account will be used for this experiment alone.
As you can see the screenshot does mask some information. Obviously the account number but
also any information that could compromise the system integrity. There are only a handful of
people that know of this system and its going to stay that way.
So, where I hit the stop level you will find blanks before and after, where I hit a take profit
level you will also see blanks and as I publish the account once a month you will only see
information that does not threaten the integrity of the system.
So, to business. You will see below that I had to add a couple of hundred quid to the account
to bring it up to the 10k starting total - at least from that you can tell it's not a demo account.
Like any trade you ever take - the hardest part of the trade is right at the beginning and I'm sure
that month one will be like that. The account is to be played with a leverage of 10:1 with a
twist - the twist is the bit that might be a little scary to begin with so it will be interesting to
see how it goes. I have no problems in playing the system - I have traded it for the last four
months live and I am 100% confident in it - the new compounding though has not been tried
before except backtesting it.
The backtest looked good but then it was only 6 months of a test rather than the usual 3 years
we like to do. All backtests that we do are checked by hand. Also interesting to note that the
length of this 2 year experiment is almost as long as the backtest performed on the system
itself!
The updates will not be that regular but I guess I might have some comments to make as we go
through the first month. If you don't want to read them then just check out the last day of the
month when the account status will be revealed.
With that I hope you wish me well as we enter what is traditionally the best trending months of
the year. By now most of the muppets have gone broke and are back to demo and the real
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traders start to build their winter nest egg.
Good luck for October 2005, and roll on October 07 and my million quid :)
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So with the aim of forming a relationship I picked up the phone and got the MD.
I'm a bit of a blunt guy and after the initial introductions I asked my first question which was
"how many million pound accounts do you hold" he said he couldn't give specifics but when I
said I'm not after their names - just how many, he told me there was several.
I asked how large his biggest account holder was and he told me that he had a couple of
punters with accounts in excess of 7 million.
I then addressed the £100 a pip limit. It turns out the £100 a pip limit is a 'per trade' limit and
you can open as many trades as you wish.
I asked what the reaction would be at being suddenly presented with a trade of £700 a pip and
he said it would certainly raise some eyebrows and may be difficult to fill without notice.
However he also told me of one client who regularly trades at upwards of £1000 a pip without
issue.
We then spoke at length about the security of the company and safeguards that were in place.
He told me that by law in the UK they have to place all client funds and winning positions into
a fund which is untouchable by them - he told me that each day the company had to report on
the size of this fund, the customer holding and current winning positions to the FSA (Financial
Services Authority) and that they were unable by law to use any part of that account to cover
losses.
I have since verified this with the FSA.
After a long conversation of around 30-45 mins the general gist is that once up to £200 a pip I
should be contacting for a personal trader and telephone my orders in giving some warning to
them to help them out.
They make money by getting a better fill at market than they offer the punters and of course
from the spread - they will generally get 1 or 2 pips better fill than we do.
Personally I don't have a problem with this and he even said that at decent levels of trade we
will be able to negotiate for a better rate of say a 2 pip spread thanks to the volume we will be
trading.
I mentioned that the system I trade could well result in occasional winning days of £300,000
and asked if this would cause a problem to the liquidity of the business if there were a few of
us doing it. He told me that if we were to take 300k in a day that they would be looking to
make 310k on the trade and that the fund holding of the business could easily swallow that kind
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Month 1: October 2005
So the big experiment was under way. The first month was a steep learning curve. To begin
with we had losers. Clearly we expected this but as we were playing now with what we
thought were significant amounts of money then we had a few goosebumps.
At the end of the month as promised here was my report to my blog. I'm sorry that I don't have
the original screenshots of the account without the blacked out bits to show you. If I had them
then I would.
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Monday October 31st 2005
Ok, month one over then and performance is within expected parameters.
Full screenshots of the live account are below - any information that could identify any system
parameters have been removed. And there are 3 pictures as it does not all fit onto one screen.
Even though we had full confidence in the system, the first half of the month was a little hairy
to say the least - slight doubts begin to surface when your first few days produce nothing but
losers. It’s also very easy that when a position is looking to continue in a winning trade to
leave it open overnight.
However we stuck to our rules which by the way are totally without discretion and we came
out on top.
Ive had one problem with the broker this month that slipped me by one pip whilst they didn't
slip my partners - this was rectified on the account as you will see from the statement. Ive also
had some referral money paid into the account which is 2X£50 payments for recommending a
friend which has to be taken into the final balance - bloody hell I thought, could make a killing
just by doing that all day!!
Good thing is that the friend also gets £50 so all is fair :)
Just the results left then - some may look at these and scoff, fine, scoff away - but remember
from little acorns come big oak trees :)
see ya all at the end of November.
Results of the first month, bear in mind our first target is 17k by end of December.
· Opening balance:£10,000
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· Closing Balance: £ 12,486
· P/L: £2,486
· % Gain on account: 24.8%
· Lowest account value: £ 8,630
· Highest account value: £13,326
· Maximum Drawdown: £1,370 = 13.7%
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was eating into original capital. However true to form on the very next day the method gave
what we expected it to do and came in ok.
The month is not to target though. To make the million we must hit an average of 22% per
month. This should average out as we go through the next 18 months. In our tests we had
months which increased equity as much as 60% and the next 18 months should give some
months much higher than others.
Onto the figures then - check back New Years Eve to see if we reached our December target of
17k equity
· Opening balance:£12,486
· Closing Balance: £ 13,767
· P/L: £1281
· % Gain on account: 10.2%
· Lowest account value: £ 9,882
· Highest account value: £14,502
· Maximum Drawdown: £4,620 = 31.8%
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Month 3: December 2005
And so we came to the first quarter of using the system. This was our first real yardstick and
filled us with confidence in the trading method. We now had three winning months under our
belt, something that 96% of retail traders never manage even to this day.
We implemented a new staking plan this month which would turn out to be one of the reasons
we failed. Note the optimistic arrogance of such a move.
What we implemented was a stake increase through drawdowns. So when we lost we would
increase the stake by a percentage.
At this time we began to have fun by every day talking about what we could have bought with
the days winnings. We were talking in the region of large screen TV's and things of that ilk.
"Today I've won enough to buy a 36" TV (pretty expensive at the time) again adding to our
arrogance.
Again we add another tweak to the system. More leverage.......
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December 30th 2005
Heres the first big one then. December was our first milestone on the way to our Million.
The yardstick for December that we set at the beginning was £17,000. We reached that the first
time on the 28th December and then had a down day and closed the year on a plus. The final
balance is shown on the report below and is to target so time for a good celebration this new
years weekend.
You'll notice there are two reports this month - the monthly as usual and the quarterly report.
The gain on the account has been just as expected and we are on target.
Emotions this month started to play in. One day of the month we thought we knew better than
the system and could outperform it - we closed the position early at the point where it
invariably went in the winning direction.
We then spent two hours trying to get back in at our original entry - we got it in the end and as
it happened it was a losing day but that’s not whats important - we should never have
questioned the system and just played it as is.
Needless to say since that day we have stuck to it religiously and will continue to do so.
The problem I think is boredom - when you find something that works well you try and try to
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Month 4: January 2006
The New Year started with a bang, but not the kind of bang we were looking for. The new
staking plan meant that our risk was increasing every day in drawdown. We were initially
playing with a 10:1 leverage and increasing the stake also had an effect on that leverage by
compounding it. Ie, as the account went down then the stakes went up. Not a wise thing to do,
not wise at all.
This also meant that the drawdown got bigger than expected. Read on....
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January 30th 2006
Hi all, thanks for dropping by on the million pound experiment.
If you don't know what this is all about then please read the very first post from this blog -
should be either at the bottom of this page or from the links at the side.
Well, January has been heartbreaking to say the least - A good start to the month put us onto a
new high of the equity curve to over £18k and since then we have been in drawdown.
The drawdown is worse the last one we had in November and again this is the part that is
heartbreaking.
Let me tell you the reason for grail. Grail is 100% mechanical that requires no user input
throughout the trading day. To me this is trading nirvana. After more that four years as a trader
you get to a point where it bores the pants off you hour after hour and you start to look for
something that can take away this tedious existence in front of 5 screens all day. To me that is
what grail is.
Grail is not, (nor was it designed to be) a 100% winning trading strategy. To me the holy grail
of trading is a system you don't have to think about or have decisions to make as to when to
close or enter etc.
The trouble is, as many of you will know, that the first ten minutes of any trade is the hardest to
keep your cool, which is where we are at in grail. The first six months is like the first ten
minutes of a daytrade.
As a trader you will know that once in the money with a good stop in place covering some
profits it’s a breeze to hold a position. well in the case of grail - the first 100% is the hardest
and once the initial capital of 10k has doubled to 20k in safe position (ie 28k as 28K minus
max expected drawdown of 40% = 20k) we cannot feel safe.
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Month 11: August 2006
Close to a year from inception the system produced its third large drawdown. In hindsight we
should have took notice of this as an increasing number of those drawdowns were signs of
what was to come. All of these drawdowns you'll notice actually break the backtest
parameters and we make no mention of that.
This is now two losing months in the first year too - the backtest you may remember only had a
single losing month in the entire three years.....
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31st August 2006
it’s been a poor month and is the second losing month since inception. Not a massive losing
month but annoying that it came just as we got back onto target. For the 24 months
This month has prompted me to look at the way we trade the system and next month I may be
making another change as to how I trade it - basically I may be trading less but making more.
Anyway, by the 10th August we were into a new high on the account of 77k which put us
within a whisker of being back on track and then we entered this drawdown period. We are
currently at a drawdown of 33%.
Ive actually got to a point where I look forward to drawdowns as I know that the lift out of
them will be swift. I also know that the deeper the drawdown the more agressive the lift out of
it.
Anyway, next month is a big one for the report as it will mark the first anniversary of the
account and will herald our first annual report for Grail.
If there are any changes in schedule to be made it will be next month so until then, I will leave
you with the monthly report.
· Opening balance:£50,556
· Closing Balance: £ 42,078
· Cash in holding account: £10,000
· Account Valuation total Last Month £60,556
· Account Valuation total £52,078
· P/L: -£8478
· %Gain on account: -14.00%
· Lowest account value: £ 51,590
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· Highest account value: £77,762
· Maximum Drawdown: £26,172 = 33.6%peak to valley (ouch!)
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Month 12: September 2006
One year into the project and we were still buoyant (who wouldnt be?) Throughout this time
we had changed the system from the original substantially. We had increased the leverage, we
had implemented time based closing rules, we had begun to 'double leverage' the initial 10k.
Something else interesting happened this month with regards to brokers. I had a phone call
from IG Index. They wanted to take me and Martin out for lunch as a treat. I smelled a rat
here, I mean how often do brokers do that!
We decided to take the invite and called them. We could choose any venue we wanted
anywhere at all and they would travel from London to take us for lunch and a beer. We chose
a golf club local to me and went along intruigued.
So we sat and chatted for a while and then the obvious question was raised. “why did you
want to see us?” The answer was that we were doing well and they were trying to find out how
we were doing it. They were convinced that we had found a way to beat their spread. I’m
guessing that they thought we had some sort of arbitration strategy and could get in before they
moved or they thought we had insider information or something.
We told them nothing apart from we had a system that we followed to the letter.
At some point in the afternoon we raised the point that it must cost a fortune taking out people
that win money from them. The guys told us that hardly anyone had consistent success the way
that we were. The figures he quoted us werethat out of around 40,000 retail traders using his
desk that 99% of them fail to produce a profit over more than one month.
This confirmed to us the figures that are banded around the internet forums, and of course
confirms that most of the traders on those forums are full of shit!
Let’s look at the month then and indeed the first anniversary of the project. It is interesting to
note from the comments below that I could 'feel' a change in the market. This change was to
show itself as the very beginnings of the credit crunch. Many say that this started in 2008 but
in reality the end of 2006 was the beginning of the end.
We were now starting to try and find ways of avoiding the drawdowns. We were looking at
'abstaining' strategies that considered when we were at new highs wether we should stop
trading until we were say 20% in drawdown and then start again. We never did figure that one
out though.
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Well, we made it.
Grail is one year old this weekend as is the blog.
This months report therefore is a special one as it will show the entire annual result.
Before you go below and read that report though I want to cover some of the highs and the
lows of the year I have just lived through.
Here's an interesting question though - how many of you reading this were trading Forex last
year and are still trading Forex now? - Chances are its not many and I'd love you to make some
comments this month - Happy birthday messages are welcome too :)
I guess it's pretty amazing that the project lasted a full 12 months. But I do have to tell you that
although the system is just about the same as it was 12 months ago, it has undergone some
changes throughout that time.
Highs and lows of the year:
1) The 'New Car' scenario (High)
during the year the Grail team needed a way to measure how successful we were being on a
daily basis. We opted for the "how much of a car have we won today" - it started off with a
full set of tyres on a day that we cleared say £400.
The first high was when we won the equiv of a Kia Picanto in one day - around £4500.
The real high on this came when in a single day we made more than our initial £10,000 stake.
The last time I broke the record it was £17,460 - the equivalent of a reasonable BMW
2) the stop change day (High)
One day after some significant testing and research we decided to change our initial stop limit.
We actually made our initial stop larger. Two days later as we watched our trade go against us
- it went past our old stop.... went within 2 pips of our new stop ... turned around and ended the
day on a 100+ pip winner.
3. The 0.1 pip stopout (Low)
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Month 13: October 2006
So, have you managed to put this book down once yet? :-)
We are getting closer to the end of the grail experiment now. Every time we went into
drawdown the leverage was getting out of hand. A further 10k of the account was removed to
the 'income' account as you will read below so that's now 20k out of the account that was being
traded twice on the same trades.
The volatility in this month should really have made us stop and think about what was
happening in the markets. It was turning into whipsaws every day. Our trades were in for
short durations.
The fact that it made profit was more down to luck than the system.....
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31st October 2006
Okee Dokee then - Month 13, or is it year two month one? - Whatever!
October was pretty dull for the first half still crawling back from the last Drawdown but that
certainly changed during the second half.
Looks like the market started to expand and there is nothing Grail likes better.
I know it was a tough month for many. I know for a fact a lot of traders lost a lot of money. I
was talking to a colleague and imagined most traders running around like headless chickens -
changing systems, changing entry parameters etc.
We just sat there patiently waiting. We had made no money for almost 3 months but we got to a
point where we weren't losing any either - just went up a bit then down a bit. We didn't change
anything and just waited - in markets like that the grail trader is best positioned for the strike.
The strike came in the last 2 weeks of October and for the month we have had a stunning result
as you will see below.
You will also notice that the account is another £10,000 short of its actual size. That’s because
of the income account.
Each of the grail crew operates two accounts - the main grail account (you see my own every
month on here) and a second account which we refer to as the income account.
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saw that we made the change immediately.
Still, that's what's good about our team, always testing everything!
Ok, onto the month results for November.
All figures include the £20,000 in the holding account (see previous posts for details)
· Opening balance: £88,328
· Closing Balance: £ 100,502
· P/L £ £12174
· %Gain: 13.78%
· Lowest account value: £67,960
· Highest account value: £100,502
· Maximum Drawdown: £20,368 = 23.05%peak to valley
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Month 15: December 2006
December was supposed to be a good month for me. I took the wife to New York to spend
Hanuka with Kev and his family (no, I'm not Jewish but he is) we flew first class, stayed in
The Westin Times Square and planned 10 days of pure indulgence.
I guess it was fated that during the desire for indulgence that our system failed.
I did enjoy New York. It was great to finally meet Kev and we did the Macy’s Xmas windo
thing and the bloomingdale ice rink. What was not so much fun was being hunched over my
laptop online with my trading partners at 3am whilst the wife caught some sleep. It's not
something I ever want to repeat again in my life.
Battered and demoralised I wrote the following diary entry. Its human nature I guess that I
would still at this point defend the system. After all we believed in it so much. I now take to
telling lies in the post about the expected drawdown. I can tell you that our tests showed a
maximum drawdown of 35% on our standard leveraging.
I'll cover more in the next chapter, but for now read this sad post.....
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29th December 2006
Bit of a double edged sword on this post.
Firstly to report results which are rather shitty, and second to suspend / close the blog,
possibly forever. Reasons to follow.
First of all let’s talk turkey about the results.
The month was terrible - in fact the worst that we have experienced in the 14 months trading it,
however not the worst on record from our tests.
We suffered this month a 48% drawdown. We suffered this drawdown at a point when iIwas
supposed to be enjoying a holiday in New York - it was -30% when I left the UK and -45%
when I got back. Needless to say due to things beyond my control, much of my holiday was
totally ruined.
The month of December ended up at -45% on the account - from £100,502 down to £55,000
The system still works and is within parameters but the money management, which at the end
of the day is the bit that creates the severity of drawdown, was at fault and has since been
rectified.
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We were running the account at 100% efficiency - which meant that at a max drawdown there
would just be enough in the account to sustain it. What I didn't take into account was the
psychological pressure of actually getting close to reaching this level and seeing the account
decimated.
Even after five years of trading the market can still humble you, and this drawdown certainly
has. So if you are reading this and you're a trader - don't ever think you have this thing licked
until you are sat in your superyacht with the obligatory Russian hooker eating a mouthful of
pork sausage.
It’s also uncovered some other rather unsavory elements of life that I won’t discuss on here,
those reading this know what i'm referring to and I don't know whether to apologise profusely
or call the lawyers - one of those morals Vs money type events. Today I reckon the lawyers,
yesterday I thought forgive and forget - you know the kind of pickle I mean? One thing is for
sure it won't go away by pretending it doesn't exist so fun fun fun the first week in Jan one way
or the other. The ball is in someone else's court at the moment so we will see which way it
lands by the 5th Jan.
Back to trading metaphors now ... The new Rocky film has a great scene where balboa is
telling his son what makes a winner. Something along the lines of "it ain't how hard you can hit
- it's how hard a hit you can take and still remain moving forward" - well, never a truer word
was spoken.
Ive took a large 'hit' on my account and I've rode the punch. I'm bouncing back and still moving
forward. I ain't saying that i'm a Balboa but i'm sure as hell not through yet.
So, to this point I hope that you've enjoyed the journey and it's with sadness that I am to close
this blog.
Grail goes on and will I am sure go from strength to strength with the lessons we have learned.
However I am bringing this blog to an end. It may be temporary or it may end up being
permanent. The chances are that I will update the blog at sometime in the future just to let you
know that it's still ploughing on, however it will not be regular and may never happen so just
check back every 3 months or so.
There are a few reasons for my decision, some of which I cannot talk about at the moment,
however the main one is that because of the blog I am getting emotionally involved when the
system has a losing month. The fact that it's in a drawdown at the end of a month shouldn't
matter because it peaks and troughs no matter what the date is - the fact it's at the end of the
month is immaterial.
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Getting emotionally involved in the trading of a mechanical system is not good - you start to
analyse every facet of the trades and it can drive you nuts - it almost did in New York and I
can't have that.
It is more important to me to make the project a reality and produce the money for my and my
team’s future than it is to tell you about it and massage my ego. So i'm afraid the blog has to go.
It's been fun and all that and thank's for the ego massage (Rub & Tug??).
For now, please everyone enjoy the rest of the holiday break and here's to a prosperous 2007
:) Thanks for reading.
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Month 16: January 2007
Following the Christmas break and licking our wounds I returned to the blog. I'm hurt and
wounded but even then come back with an 'attitude' of a 'rogue trader'
There are thousands like this in the markets. One look at the forums on Forex Factory will
reveal to you the gung-ho traits of traders in general.
The fact of the matter was that once we made the decision to scale back on grail leverage there
were twelve straight days of wins. That would have taken the account back to new highs.
Clearly this bolstered my opinion that the system didn't fail and that it was our entire fault.
It was our fault of course, but not for dropping the system, for the mistakes we made earlier on
and for not seeing what was happening. In this next post I even have the audacity to start
talking about 65% drawdowns being 'ok'. That means to get back on top you have to do more
than double your account size. How much risk do you have to take to do that? The answer is A
LOT.
I talk of a 'very clever money management strategy" when in fact it wasn’t.
You should also note that I start to refer to drawdown in terms of pips won / lost. Pips don't
matter a jot. The amount of money you place on each pip does.
Regarding the 'legal reason' mentioned please ignore it; I've only left it in because I refer to it
later on. It was regarding an investor in the managed account which also traded grail.
Battered and bruised I wrote this rather stinging post...
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14th January 2007
Hi all, just thought I would drop in a comment here about my blog and the talk going around the
web
I don't normally bother commenting but Ive seen so many visitors come from sites such as
forextsd and moneytec that you are obviously interested. There have been some comments in
some forums that need to be addressed
Firstly let me tell you a few facts.
1. I dont have a problem with a 50% drawdown- in fact I’m happy providing the system does
not touch 65%.
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2. The bigger the drawdown the better the system works - that’s because of a very clever
money management strategy which I cannot reveal.
3. At the moment, due to a legal reason, I cannot explain exactly why this last drawdown
caused a problem. One thing is for sure it was not the depth of the drawdown - the 50% thing
is quite acceptable (though yes, it is painful and I would prefer not to have it!).
Sometime in the near future I will be posting to the blog exactly why it was a problem and
what lessons we learned and the actions taken.
Since Christmas Eve the system had 12 winning days on the trot - the drawdown was 415 pips
and the recovery 515 pips in 2 weeks.
The project to make 1 million from £10k is still a reality and is still alive - the timescale has
changed but then this is a long journey and one worth taking - when a pilot in London boards
his plane to go to New York he is off course 90% of the time. Making corrections as he goes
along and doing the same things over and over again, making small changes here and there,
eventually he reaches his destination.
What I would say to you is don't write this off yet. Many people are talking about the grail
experiment and are saying it's over and done - nothing could be further from the truth and all
will be revealed as soon as I can.
So knock that smirk off your face right now! (lol)
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Month 17: February 2007
January came and went, we made a decent return but it was not on the account size we had
before the crash. We tried to keep the thing going and February there would be a few more
months trading 'grail' before we pulled the plug.
I went on the blog and posted this penultimate message which explains what was in my mind at
the time. At the time I still believed in the system. Truth is that had we continued and got
through the December drawdown without change then March and April would have killed us
for good and left nothing behind.
In this post the realisation of the real mistake starts to hit home.
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28th Feb 2007
Ok, time to reveal what happened at Christmas then. I will tell you what happened but will not
touch on the legal stuff - sit back, relax and have a giggle at my expense....
You see over a year ago we devised this system we now trade called Grail.
Our backtests (of 3 years) showed us what the method would do and what we should expect.
How often we would have drawdowns, how much we should make month by month and what
sort of equity curve we should have.
So we began trading it - this story is embedded in the pages of this site and if you want to look
at the whole journey then please have a look around and you may get into the same feelings we
did.
Month by month we made money. Sure we had a losing month here and there and we had
drawdowns - but the whole experience of trading the method with real money was very much
as expected. In fact it was almost exactly as expected.
Our journey went from initial excitement of starting off, to a nice steady feeling of expectation.
Of course all this time we were not just sat here watching charts - all the time we were testing
and verifying what our previous tests had given us.
Months and months of tests, all saying the same thing. Whenever we had a new drawdown we
just looked at our tests to see if this was anything new and, as it clearly was not new, we just
kept on sailing on. Day by day.
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£80,000 when in reality it was at £60,000 with the other £20,000 in the income account but
still available.
The income account generated over £40,000 in winnings during the first twelve months that
were taken and spent on living and nice holidays etc.
The account went into drawdown just as the main account did, and pulled back to new profits,
just as the main account did. Exactly as expected and all was happy in la-la land.
So, now you have pictures of people enjoying life, making money hand over fist and having fun
- the traders dream. After all, what could go wrong?
The aim with Grail was to make 1000% per year - 10k to 100K in year 1 and then 100K to
1000K in year 2 - 10k to 1 million as the title says.
In November 2006, just one month later than expected we hit £100,000 for the main account
(£80,000 +£20,000 'safe money') Fantastic! The plan was on track.
Think about what we had done here. We had taken an account, worked out how much money
was safe and had effectively run this account at 100% efficiency. - The method did exactly
what it was supposed to do - when it did a drawdown it always came back. ....always.
This still did not change in December - it did come back. However what did come in
December was something that we knew could come along any day - but that we had not
mentally prepared for.
During our 'pre' grail testing we did see a rather nasty drawdown of 525 pips. At best that is a
40% drawdown on a leveraged account and with our money management we knew we could
ride it out. - At least we knew we could technically.
Of course by this time it didn't matter - we were untouchable - this has worked for months and
months. Sure, we had seen nasty drawdowns but every time we did it re-enforced the fact that
the system was stable
December came and so did our monster drawdown - it did not just come along; it swooped
down upon us in a matter of days. On November 30th we were at account highs, and by
December 6th, just 4 trading days later we were already 26% down.
On the 12th I was flying to New York nursing a drawdown of 38%.
We had been at this level of drawdown before. What was new was the length of time it took to
happen. Usually this depth of drawdown took a good 2 weeks to get there and here we were
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just seven days from our six figure high with £40,000 less.
But now get this - the account is a 'virtual' £60,000 - just £40k in the account with £20k
elsewhere right? - Nope, because the income account was in an even deeper drawdown. The
leverage on income was higher than the main account you see.
You can imagine the way I felt in NYC. I had a system that I believed in so much which had
still not reached its worst drawdown from the past. And I had a team of people with just as
much money on the line as me. Oh yes, I had a ball in NYC Not!
By the 22nd of December, the date of my return to the UK the account was a whopping 48%
drawn down.
This was represented by a £48k virtual balance which was not there - the extra £20,000 had
gone from the income account which was hovering at the £10,000 level - the amount I
originally put in it and the main account was at £28,000.
From a combined account high on November 30th 2006 of £110,000 I had £38,000 left.
Nice close for Christmas was that.
It’s important to note at this point that the system STILL had not failed. In fact it could go for
another 100 pips to beat the previous drawdown from our tests in 2003.
Many of you may be thinking at this point that the system had failed. But it had not. We had
failed the system.
What had failed was the way we had managed the account to 100% efficiency. We had worked
out that 25% of the account would be safe and then went on to make that safe money unsafe.
Basically in our greed what we did was create a fantastic system, but one that if it ever did fail
would leave the account totally empty. That's 100% efficiency. Brilliant in theory, devastating
in reality. Certainly not my finest hour and i'm sure many of you are enjoying the mental
pictures of me squirming under a drawdown. Just remember though that at least I’ve got to this
position :)
So here we are with a realisation that we are deep shit and if we do see the mother of all
drawdowns, we are fubar with nothing.
Well, nothing is a bit of an overstatement, we did take like £40k out of it and we still had £38k
left so not bad for a 10k start.
BUT, it was decision time. It was Christmas and we closed at the bottom of our biggest ever
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drawdown with the thin Xmas trading days to look forward to. Brilliant (not).
The mistake was clear. It was the fact that we took it for granted that the system would not fail
us and in fact it didn't - we failed the system. Taking the money out and then trading that money
the same way was very foolish and the realisation of what we had done was very humbling to
say the least and still is.
We had a choice - continue with the current stakes and risk that in three trading days we are
dead in the water. Or lick our wounds; take the hit and live to trade another day.
Over Christmas we decided on the latter. We drew a line under December 27th and reset the
clock. Whatever our balance was at the close of business that day was the new starting point.
Our money management would be reset to flat and the money left would be pooled into one
singular new grail as opposed to income and main growth.
And that's what we did. Of course what happened was bound to happen - the next 12 straight
days were winners. If we would have stuck with the stakes we were at then within those 12
days we would have seen new equity highs of over £120,000. But there are lots of shoulda
woulda coulda tales in this game. Shit happens and we sat in it big style.
We learned a very hard lesson and had to eat some humble pie as I’m chewing on now to you
lot. The lesson is that we never ever take any part of the account for granted - had that extra
20K still been in the account we would have weathered the storm. It wasn't and we didn't.
Since this time we had a 61% month for January and have just had a poor February at -12% but
we move into March with a renewed outlook.
I have also changed my broker strategy. My account is now spread over several brokers rather
than just one and whenever I need money, which to be honest aint often, I will dip into it.
After xmas I started trading again with around £38,000 and the last high of the account since
then was in the mid $70k's - I took £3,000 for some living expenses (well, a nice shiny new toy
actually) and it now leaves me starting March 2007 at around £60,000. It's been a storming
start to the year so far so let's hope it continues.
So, that's my story of what happened at Christmas - the season of goodwill :) I hope you've
enjoyed the story and that you may learn from it.
This is the true story of what almost brought me to my knees as a trader - I've been trading now
for almost 5 years so if you are new in this game or if you are not then the lesson is there -
never but never take anything for granted.
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Those who know me know that i'm not good at humility and don't take well to making myself
look a twat. It's not been easy for me to tell you this story and would have been easier just to
close the blog and never return.
However I think that there are many out there who could easily make this same mistake and if I
can stop them doing this then maybe one day they will thank me and tip their hat to the
Soultrader and his team.
Finally, and to give this story a tagline for you to remember - Always remember the trader's
golden rule - under every silver lining - there's a fucking huge thick black cloud waiting to
pour down on you. Make sure you carry an umbrella in your head.
This is the last post of this blog - The aim continues to make the million, but for now it will
remain private
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The Last Post
Here is the final post from the blog. It was 6 months on from the major crash and even now it
was still painful.
In this post you will see the screenshots from our backtesting of grail. You'll see why we had
such belief in the system. This was my explanation of what went wrong.
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17th July 2007
I must say it's nice for you to pop along here now and again to see if anything is happening. I
have news for you and a lesson to be learned, but you might not like it. I certainly didn't.
This message is aimed at those people who spend hours on top of hours back testing their
system whether by hand or by a computer model. So in other words any trader ever trying to
make a trading system.
The lesson is that most likely your system has a missing element - read this post thoroughly and
you'll find out what it is.
The system we knew as Grail is no longer in use. It is no longer productive. That does not
mean that it will never work again, but that it no longer gives the right return for the amount of
risk taken.
In December last year (2006) grail had a drawdown of around 50%. Bear in mind that at its
height the system had made 1000% in a year and had taken 10k into 100k - a significant
achievement I'm sure you will all agree.
The December drawdown was a crushing blow. I was in New York at the time having a
holiday and it totally spoilt that! Of course the day that we as a team decided to reduce the
stakes was the day the system decided to turn around. We changed from £118 per pip to £50.
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Thereafter followed a 17 day winning streak. To the point that had we remained on our
original staking plan, new account highs would have been made on day 14. Amazing eh.
So think about this, OK, you reduced stake and the system did exactly what you thought it
would do. It returned to form. We did not do what many would and go back to large stakes; we
took the hit and moved on from our current position.
December though should have rang warning bells. The fact that the drawdown was so severe
and sudden - within 18 trading days from a new high at the end of November we were almost
on our knees. Clearly the system was prodding us in the ribs saying "oi, take notice twat" we
didn't.
We continued to trade the system - January did amazing numbers but then that was it.
Feb lost, March lost, April lost and this time it was a drawdown of almost 60% from the
November highs. When we finally gave up the ghost and ceased trading Grail I had around 38k
left having lost the January gains.
When you think about it, the system was a success. It made 38k from 10k and in addition to this
we traded it on another account and took over 40k in 'wages' from 10k of that initial winnings.
So not bad.
We are still tracking the system and it's lost and lost and lost - if we would have continued it
would without a doubt have blown the account totally. The bottom of the drawdown was 1082
pips, met a couple of weeks ago.
So what went wrong and what can we learn from this to move on. More importantly how can it
help you?
The Testing
When we first devised the system and tested it we hand tested almost three years of data. -
That was around 600 trades. Would you consider that adequate? Remember machine and
HAND tested?
It sounds like plenty of testing doesn't it and believe me it was hard work. We changed this,
changed that, aware all of the time that we must not curve fit. Checking each trade manually on
a one minute, tick by tick chart.
Our final test prior to live ran from May 1st 2003 to September 1st 2005 (remember we started
trading it in October 2005)
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Below is a snapshot of the equity curve of the test - good eh?
Well, we thought it was!
In fact we thought it good enough through our months of testing and refining that we began
trading it.
Live Trading
One year in and all is well. The system performed not just close but EXACTLY how we
expected it to, hitting 1000% within just 4 weeks of the anticipated date of October 31 2006.
Imagine the elation knowing that all you have to do is repeat what you've already done for a
year, for the next year and you would be sat on a cool million. At this point we were all 100%
committed to this in the 100% belief that this system works. We even had investment funds
now trading the system. Millions were being traded with it.
The test data now had an extra year of trades but this time REALtrades and not test trades. The
test was now over 800 trades with 20% of them done in the real market.
Have a look at this chart - the test matched reality exactly - this was May 03 to November 06
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The Fall
We know the story from here, just go back a few posts and you'll see what happened. The
system failed. But why did it fail and what did we do wrong and not include?
Ceasing to trade the system was one of the hardest decisions I have ever made as a trader. It
didn't mean just my dreams evaporating, but those of my team, my wife and the capital of my
investors. Not an easy decision and one that still makes me shudder to this day.
As a team and as human beings we went through what I can only explain was a grieving
process. We just didn't know what to do or where to turn. We had got so used to mechanical
trading that our discretionary skills has dried up and withered so we had no backup plan.
You may laugh at this but this grieving process is only just coming to an end and was one of the
most painful times in my life. Ive always been successful in whatever I've done and when I've
set a goal I've reached it. This time I did not.
The reason I have the strength to continue this blog is because I am now back on the road and
once again trading very well but I learned so much from the experience, in fact some will
laugh, but I'm a changed person because of it.
Before we move on, allow me to share with you the equity curve that the test returns when ran
today over a shorter period to show closer. The high peak you can see is November 2006 - the
second lower peak is January ran with lower staking and you can see what happens from there
- direct evidence I suppose that trends exist in every part of trading including equity curves!
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The Analysis
So, let’s look at what went wrong.
Those of you who backtest systems wont like this. Most think that a few months or just a year
is long enough to test. It isn't.
Our test, even almost 4 years of it with 800 trades of which 20% were real - was not enough.
Why? Because our test did not include all market conditions.
When the grief set in we started to dissect the system and find out what went wrong, why the
system failed and what we could have done to mitigate.
After a lot of talk and soul searching we looked at the date we used to test - it was fine but
when we looked at a monthly chart, it was strikingly obvious.
Here is the chart.
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Left to right, the first line is the start of our testing period, May 2003. The market is fine and
normal. 2003 was not a great year in the test though acceptable and you can see why it did not
fair so well as the first five months of the test were up and down but still had nice ranges.
The second line on the chart represents October 2005 - when we started trading the system. So
those bits of data between the first two lines are our test period - not a lot really is it? Does it
really look like it has all market conditions in it? No, it's a nice trending market most of the
time.
So line 3 is November 2006 - the peak of our grail accounts when we hit 100k and 1000% on
account - a nice trending 14 months I think you will agree.
Now look what happens between November 06 (line 3) and April 07 (line 4).
Four Doji bars in a row. A severe sign of a constricting, indecisive market if ever I saw it.
No trends, just spikes up and spikes down - the daily action mimicked this spikes up then
down, spikes down then up.
Grail was an intraday trend following system. During this time there were no trends, just a hell
of a lot of reversals.
During this time those in the forums were developing systems such as Firebird and grid trading
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systems - they did really well during this time because they were mean reversion systems -
they traded counter trend to moves looking to profit on the retraces - and there were plenty of
them. A system similar in nature to Grail such as Hans 123 was also suffering and also died
during this time.
The Firebird guys tested like a few months and thought that covered all market conditions
because they had lots of trades a day- clearly they were only testing these monthly doji bars
and when the market did start to trend for as little as a few days they got burned badly only for
it to turn in their direction the very day after they took losses.
Anyway, as you can see, those market conditions did not exist within our test period. In fact we
never had more than a single doji in a row, let alone four of them.
And that's what killed Grail, our test data just was not enough and did not cover all market
conditions.
Before I move away from this, just think for a minute and look at that chart.
Every month someone is saying "the markets have changed, the volatility will not return" - well
look at the chart - it stretches all the way back to 2001 - can you see any real market change
there? - I know I can't, just a trending market with a few areas of consolidation is all.
So, the questions arise like, well, if the test data had those kind of periods in then you may
have never traded the system, and that's true - chances are we would've either not gone
forward or we would have played it much less aggressive. The thing is we do not have a
crystal ball and we don't know what we would have done.
The fact remains that our test was not enough and for your information, for the test to have
those conditions in it would have had to have been a nine year test and even then the four doji's
in a row were much smaller in 1996.
Lessons
The lesson here and my message to you is that no matter how much you test, no matter how far
you go back there will always be a market condition that your test does not have. Next time it
could be 7 doji's together or even 17. We don't know.
The market ranges have also got much smaller - in 2004 the range for cable was almost 170
pips a day 05 was around 150, 06 was 140ish and this year has barely managed 110. But go
back further to the early 90's and you'll see ranges that will make you sweat just by looking.
Grail was a trend system and without a trend she died.
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So, those of you designing systems are now saying 'well, what the hell can I do? - I have to
rely on the fact that the past repeats it's self otherwise I might as well flip a coin'
My answer is that you need do nothing different apart from add one thing extra to your system
that we did not.
In the testing phase our system worked for four years solid - two more years and I would never
have traded again because I would have had 10 million quid in the bank. We were unlucky
with market conditions and you may be luckier.
LTCM (Long Term Capital Management) had around five years of amazing trading. They were
the Wall Street kings for years. But then market conditions arose which weren't in their test
period.
Here were a bunch of professors from MIT. They were the best of the best and made more
money than anyone else before them. Yet they went bang big style bringing the financial world
to its knees for billions.
One thing is for sure. No matter how good your system appears to be, no matter how much
money it has already made and no matter how much confidence and testing you put into it -
sooner or later a market condition will surface which you haven't seen before. We never know
what is around the corner; you could run the gauntlet and have 10 years or more of great
results. But sooner or later the market will throw off a wild one.
What's needed is something that traders hate to have to think about.
Long Term Capital Management didn't have one when they had to be rescued by the Federal
bank for Billions. Nick Leeson didn't have one when he broke Barings Bank, the oldest bank in
the world. And Soultrader and his team didn't have one when grail failed.
What they didnt have was a method of identifying when the system failed and a plan of what to
do when that happened.
I have no doubt that grail will become profitable again when the market returns to its groove.
In fact it's starting to look like the market ranges are coming back now. For months the 20 day
average has been below 70 on cable. Recently it's got above 100 for the first time in months.
Grail will work again and I might have a punt again when it does - there could be another four
years!
System designers need to add one more thing into their arsenal. They ask these questions when
designing a system
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1. When to enter a trade
2. How much to trade
3. Where to place a stop
4. Where to exit a trade
They are missing part 5 and part 6
5. How to identify when the market conditions cause the system to fail.
6. What to do when it's failed.
There is also something else that we have learned about our system design that i'd like to share
with you.
Grail was an intraday trend following system. It traded every day, when the intraday trends
disappeared so did grails profits.
Grail, with certain parameter changes would work on most currency pairs, in fact, most liquid
markets.
Grail was designed around a fundamental truth - trends exist. The fact that for the past six
months that have not existed intraday does not mean they aren't there on longer timeframes.
Our trading is still trend based, but no longer tied to a specific time period and no longer tied
to a single pair. I now trade trends over the longer term and on any currency you can name.
This new method of trading is better than Grail and so good things have come of this.
My advice to you is that when you design a system; make it a system based on a solid market
principle. And don't limit yourself - if it's good it will work on ANY currency pair.
The End Is Nigh!
This story has been here since 2005. I hope you've all enjoyed it. If all this blog does is make
you implement parts 5 and 6 into your trading systems then it stands here for something and
leaves a legacy.
Since grail we have moved on as a team. We are scarred and battered but not beaten. The true
mark of life's winners is that they do not give in.
The whole experience has changed me as a person. I'm still an arrogant sod but I have tasted
real humility and have been just about as low as you can get emotionally. I'm not going to say
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that I have come out stronger because it's not true. I've come out more cautious than ever before
and very cynical - two traits of a trader that are never publicised in the books you read but two
which will enable me to move forward with my chosen career in safety and with a degree of
humility.
Until you've been there you cannot possibly imagine what I and my team have been through
from the heady heights of amazing returns to the gutter lows of complete despair.
This is the final post for this blog and I really hope those of you who have shared this journey
have learned from it. If you are a currency trader and are finding this for the very first time I
strongly suggest that you read this blog from the very beginning. Feel the highs and lows with
us as you reach this final step.
And good luck to all for the future.
The Team:
Soultrader
Keres
Angelfx
Automan
Madisonfx
Whispy
Fluty
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Final Notes
So, here I am in 2013 looking back over the grail system.
When I began putting this book together I thought that it would be a story of bad times and
personal loss. I grieved the loss of grail for two years and a few weeks ago I still felt that this
was a failure.
Having put the thing together, digging out all my old notes and spreadsheets I found myself; in
the words of Little Anthony and The Imperials ‘On the outside looking in’ It’s a place that I
have never been in before with the grail story. As the posts unfolded on these pages I have
learned new lessons.
I’ve learned for the first time what the real reason was for this project to fail. I’ll come to that
in a moment. First let’s cover some of the things I’ve found.
One thing that the blog never mentioned was "The Black Swan". Those reading this that have
been system traders will know what I'm talking about. I believe the phrase was first coined by
Nicholas Taleb in his book The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable (click)
which was published after the grail days.
The basic view is that systems are fine when all that swims by you are white swans, but
eventually a black swan comes along and screws up the system of counting white swans. Yes,
I know it's a rather poor description but if you want the whole thing then buy his book.
We had a river full of white swans. But black swans always exist and when they come, then
it's over. That is the problem with any fully mechanical trading system. The ability to notice
and act on changes to the underlying fundamentals of that system is what is needed.
Unfortunately though, by the time the black swan is visible it's already too late. What you need
to be able to do is see the ripples on the water as the swan is around the corner. The ripples
were there but we were blinded by confidence and past results. The changes in drawdown
were a ripple; the 'feeling' that I spoke out in late 2007 were a ripple; and the increased
number of losing months compared to the test data were ripples.
But when you're by the river counting white swans you don't see the ripples from the black one.
I have never again been able to put together a mechanical system with anything near the results
of grail, even from a backtest. I truly believe that it was a one off. I've tested literally hundreds
of systems based on everything from straight price to crazy moon cycles!
Some people will draw conclusions from the weirdest of co-incidences! I seriously believe
that someone could build a system around the number of time you go for a pee in a 24 hour
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period.
Indicators just paint a different way of looking at what has already happened. There is only
one indicator that tells you what is really happening now and that is price. If anyone asked me
for advice today on trading then I would tell them to clean the chart, take off all the pivots,
fibonacci lines, fractals and bloody butterfly lines and trade naked price, it is the only thing
that is real.
In the months following the end of the project all of the members of the team slowly drifted
apart. Whispy bought a landscaping company and began doing lawn care for affluent people in
the south of England.
Angel was one of the team that lived life as if the money were already in the bank. Half way
through the project she had bought an apartment in her dream location of Nice in France and
had moved there basing future income from grail.
Following the crash she sold the apartment and went back into health care in Australia. The
last I heard from her she had taken a Law degree and was planning a return to France this
year. She was the person that Martin and I really felt for because she followed the dream
before the money was in the bank.
On saying that we were all guilty of planning what to spend. We extended the plan to go for
one more year from one million to 10 million. The wife and I were literally viewing half
million pound houses and when we went to New York in December it was first class with a
bed in the aeroplane and a £500 a night hotel penthouse. Martin was ordering catalogues for
superyachts.
Tony devised yet more trading systems and developed trading robots taking thousands from the
markets. He was banned from more brokers that anyone I have ever known and unfortunately
ended up close to broke. If you think we were reckless with leverage then you've never met
Tony!
Kev took several jobs in hedge funds and stock broker companies and we are still dear friends
today. He's planning to get married next year. He earns good money and still trades himself
but on a much smaller level.
Martin continued to trade, mostly alone and reverted back to a quick hit trading style on the 5
minute chart. We left off contact for a year and he has it licked now and makes around 200 pips
a week on small leverage. We now continue to trade together daily and occasionally we take a
look at system trading. But usually it's not for long.
Following grail I went into quite a depression for two years but continued to swing trade and
hold my own. When the credit crunch hit in 2008 I decided that I needed a reason to leave the
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markets for a while. I took a job with a local radio station as a radio host and also running the
sales team. I planned to be there for just one year. I stayed out of the market for a while and
returned to trading in a 'swing' style whilst retaining the job.
In 2011 I developed a problem with my voice and to cut a long story short in 2012 I had to
have laser surgery on my vocal chords that left my voice incapable of radio or sales work for
more than a few hours a day. I'm now back in the markets daily and am surprised how they
have changed from a trend perspective.
Following this final chapter are the appendixes. You will have in your hands on the entire
system we used to create this and it's deceptively simple as you will discover. You'll also see
most of the changes we made to the system as I can remember them.
Following that is appendix 2 - sheets of all trades taken and stakes placed. Every single trade
we made with nothing blacked out.
The robotic trading 'experts' we built still work today and can be tweaked to perform but not
for a long period. The markets are so changeable these days and true trends are rarer than they
were back then intraday. If you are the lucky one that finds the next grail, a 100% mechanical
system with no decision making needed. Do let me know. I could write a book on you!
As a final note let me say this; People will talk about this book and what the lessons are.
Many will say it was the system at fault, many will say it was our ‘gung ho’ attitude. Most
will say it was a reckless money management system.
It wasn’t either of those. And this is the real lesson to be taken from this book. If you’ve read
this far then you deserve to know,
The true reason that grail failed was over confidence.
Put yourself in our shoes:
Let me leave you with a question...
If you had a system that you believed in 1 billion percent (if such a thing existed), that you had
lived and breathed for a year before trading it; that you had stress tested to the nth degree with
hundreds of tests; and that you just ‘knew’ would always return from a drawdown as sure as
night followed day...
A system that worked month in month out for four solid years....
How much of your account would you bet on it... right now?
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Thank you for reading and please do contact me if you would like to comment or chat about my
journey.
Soultrader.
Twitter: @soultraderforex
Facebook: Facebook.com/soultraderforex
Email trixietrader@gmail.com
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Appendix 1: The Grail System
Here I will lay bare for you the grail system. Remember I did say that it was deceptively
simple. It has no indicators apart from price and time
Rules of trade placement
1) At exactly 8am UK Time take the price of GBP USD
2) Place a Buy stop at price +40 pips, stop loss 80 pips, take profit 240 pips, trailing stop 60
pips
3) Place a sell stop at price -40 pips, stop loss 80 pips, take profit 240 pips, trailing stop 60
pips
4) If trade entry level is hit, delete second trade order
5) Close all trades at 6pm UK time
That's it.
That is Grail.
Changes Made throughout the experiment:
1. At +1 pip in profit change stop to -77
2. Made a change to the auto trading robot so it did not place the trade until price
was within 10 pips of entry so the brokers could not see the order levels. We also
had an instant trade version but reverted back to orders because of slippage
3. Changed the closure time to 3:59 pm UK time on short (sell) trades only - This
increased pips significantly
4. changed take profit to 280 based on new backtests
5. changed initial stop to 75 pips
6. changed closing time to 6:59pm UK time on longs
These are the changes we actually implemented from testing literally hundreds of other ideas
Money management method.
This changed quite a bit over the time as we experimented with different staking plans.
Starting strategy:
With a 10k bank we started at £10 per pip. This is the equivalent of 1 standard £100,000 lot in
the markets.
When the bank closed the day above £10,000 we would be at £11 a pip the next day. And so
on. The strategy was that if the price went down we did not reduce the stake. So lets say for
example at the open of the day we had £12,500 then we would play £13 per pip. The stake
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would remain at £13 per pip until we closed a day above £13k. Even if the money went down
below our original 10k we would remain at that level until it broke the next milestone.
You can see this strategy in the trading sheets appendix2 from Oct 05 until Jan 06.
From Jan 06 we decided to not just remain steady when the bank went down, we decided to
increase the stake by £1 per pip for every losing day until we broke the next £k milestone at
which point it would reset to the new level. Each winning day whilst in drawdown we would
reduce by £1 but only to the base level.
This is getting complicated so I'd better explain:
Say our account high was £14500
The base level would be £15 per pip - stakes could not go lower than this from this point on
Next day lose +£1 = £16 per pip
Next day lose +£1 = £17 per pip
Next day win but not break previous account high -£1 = £16 per pip
Next day lose +£1 = £17 per pip
Next day win and break account high to say £14750 then base level is reset to £15
That's it. This can be seen on the trading sheets from January2006 to May 2006
The reasoning behind this method of management was that because we were so confident that
drawdowns would always pull back, this would increase the momentum of that return.
In May 2006 mid month we hit £50k in the account and the +/- turned to £2 and it continued
that way until the end.
You'll notice that in December from the trading sheets we were at £118 per pip with a
remaining bank of just £54,000 this meant that our leverage at this point was over 20:1
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Appendix 2 - Trading Sheets
Actual trading spreadsheets follow this page
You will notice that Nov and Dec sheet has two columns 'stake' and 'our stake' I'm sorry but I
have no recollection why that is apart from ‘our stake’ was what we were actually placing.
For some reason that I cannot remember there was a jump in the stakes and I really cannot
remember why we did that. It may be that I added how much extra we were using double
leverage by from the income account just to show where we were.
I continued keeping the sheet until January 11th where the system WOULD have made new
highs and from that point on started a new sheet as you know we reduced stake at the end of
December.
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