Hi there 👋 — 

Below is a meditation on crypto culture and our experiences in the space the past two years.

This post was first written as an internal Metalabel metablog based on many conversations we’ve had internally and with friends in the crypto space.

Whenever we’ve mentioned the main ideas from this piece in conversation – going post-crypto, changing majors, treating crypto as a minor – people have asked to read more about why we took these steps and whether they could too.

We’ve opted not to post this publicly as we don’t want to stir up a bunch of unnecessary noise, but we’ve made this Google Doc available to read and comment on so that people can share with friends.

Comments are turned on, so feel free to +1 or comment on the doc as you read.

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Metalabel

Climbing out of the rabbit hole

By Metalabel

Over the past several years we deeply explored the world of crypto. Our exploration initially began through a mix of technical curiosity and optimism about what blockchains promised to deliver. This curiosity turned into active participation, from buying Bitcoin and Ethereum to playing with NFTs to joining DAOs, attending events, and participating in the wider ecosystem.

 

We spent the past two years deep in the space but never went fully native[a][b][c][d][e]. We come from creative and cooperative backgrounds and approached crypto from those perspectives. We wrote numerous pieces recounting our experiences that were appreciative of the people we met and excited by what the technology and architecture could do, but skeptical as well. (See What DAOs and Coops can learn from each other, After Crypto, and The Onchain Era.)

The deeper we went, the more we met people we liked and respected. The deeper we went, the less we also came to believe in the promises that first intrigued us.[f] Concepts like progressive decentralization, collaborative governance, and artist royalties and control have proven to be more fiction than truth when practically experienced rather than hopefully proposed.

As a project that touches the crypto world but is not reliant on it, we spent many hours at Metalabel debating the gaps between promise and reality and our feelings about them. Talking to friends at other projects, we learned this was not uncommon. Existential debates about crypto are constant inside many teams, but less often talked about outside of them.

We were stuck in that same loop until earlier this year when we decided to do something about it: we went on a crypto diet. We unfollowed Twitter accounts focused on crypto unless they were (actual) personal friends. We unsubscribed from crypto newsletters and crypto-focused media. We purposely changed our information diets to make room for new perspectives.

You can go down the rabbit hole into crypto. This is a post about getting out.[g]

The rabbit hole

When people get crypto-pilled, they talk about “going down the rabbit hole,” immersing themselves in the language, terminology, belief systems, and intricate knowledge of the crypto space.[h] 

Like any foreign language, it sounds like gibberish to people who haven’t taken the time to learn. But for those who immerse themselves, it’s not long before you find yourself dreaming in a new second tongue.

The crypto-pill steps are a mix of acronyms, technological architecture, anti- and/or post-government ideologies, brand marketing, social marketing, seed phrases, and memes. Together they comprise a self-contained universe spanning a spectacularly wide cultural and political range, from far-right anti-government zealots to far-left post-government, post-corporate dreamers. The crypto universe primarily exists in two dimensions: a constant feed of chatter, memes, and collective hype on Discord, Telegram, and Twitter, and a traveling carnival[i] [j][k][l]swarming around the globe from crypto conference to crypto conference with a trail of PFP-avatared digital nomads in their wake.

As a newcomer to the crypto space, the energy is an alluring mix of intoxicating and toxic. Yes there’s a lot of cringiness and creepiness but you stay because some parts you agree with and, you quickly learn, good people are there. Smart people. Optimistic people. How often can you say that these days? [m]Once you become active (posting GM[n], sharing memes, dropping emojis[o]), you can feel it: you’re really part of something. Your DMs light up with messages from new friends and exciting alpha on upcoming projects. You’re welcomed daily with laurels of emojis by community members astroturf-engaging for token airdrops that make you feel special and seen.

Within days your Twitter feed becomes overwhelmingly crypto. More and more energy goes into staying on top of the new “alpha” (2021-2022) and “meta” (2023) of the space. You’re reading all the key threads. You’re in the right Telegrams. You’re collecting the most collected mints. Someone said they might delegate you a Noun[p]. The vibes are right.

But there are days when the vibes are not as right. Token prices that were WAGMI’ing to the moon start falling back to zero. Day traders with intergenerational wealth in shitcoins watch dreams dwindle. Do-gooders who put their hearts into DAOs reimagining the future of work start applying for corporate jobs offering work-from-home policies. Artists whose livelihoods took a life-changing turn for the better find their market values closer to where they were before they heard of crypto. New member welcome channels go mute.

What’s left now are the true believers – people who deeply believe, have already been made rich or need crypto to succeed to maintain any semblance of financial security, or are reputationally pot-committed to crypto and who effectively cannot leave – and the not-as-muchers – people still paying attention and who are generally on board with the bigger vision, but who also don’t want to make crypto their whole personality anymore. What’s no longer here are the millions of people drawn into crypto the past two years because they thought it would make them rich, but in fact did the opposite. This mix and absence of personalities are the key ingredients to the bear market vibe.

The revolution will be tokenized

Crypto is a subculture. A self-contained universe, and a relatively small one.[q] To be in it means being all in. For the tens (or is it hundreds?) of thousands of people active today, crypto and blockchains are somewhere between a religion and an especially intense college major[r].

When crypto people interact with non-crypto people, the degree of devotion is especially stark. At our very first trip to a crypto conference – ETH Denver in 2021 – we found ourselves sitting next to three strangers at a happy hour: one of whom was a VC in the space, and the other two were LPs, or his investors. We were shocked by the conversation. Not just that the only thing they talked about was crypto – this, we’ve learned, is true of every interaction in the space – but how they talked about it.

The three men were talking about how this bar – a great, dinge-y high-character bar in Denver – would be so much better as a DAO. “We could get tokens for every drink we ordered,” one said. “We’d all be the owners of this place!” another replied as they yes-and’d each other’s DAO dreams.

It wasn’t long before the conversation shifted to some of the DAOs they were already in. The tenor changed. “They’re spending too much on culture and not enough on providing returns,” they complained about one art-collecting DAO, echoing similar feelings about others, too.

The two narratives showed up within minutes of each other – that everything should be DAO’ified and tokenized[s], and that everything that was tokenized should be financially maximized. Their core beliefs were clear: tokenizing things was presented as “democratizing” them, but with hyper-capitalistic assumptions[t] that what would be tokenized would also be financially maximized. This is the path that realizes the heady financial projections in their fundraising decks.[u]

Money – both VCs and whales – controls the narrative in crypto to such a degree that others parrot these ideologies for entirely different reasons[v]. DAOs were talked about as the future of work, but behind the scenes VCs and lawyers were using DAOs and offshore vehicles to help projects pass something called the Howey Test, a regulatory framework that determines whether something is a financial investment product.[w] Because the US government says financial products that are backed by coordinated efforts count as securities, the idea emerged that crypto projects aren’t coordinated if they operate as DAOs – loose configurations of people that don’t fit any preconceived corporate notion. This story is often called “progressive decentralization” (tellingly the Howey Test calls it “sufficient decentralization”), and this call of “decentralization” is often heralded as the key value in crypto. However this structure became prominent arguably because whales and VCs needed it to help projects avoid having to go through the SEC to become liquid, while at the same time serving to create extremely inefficient working structures within DAOs as performative regulatory arbitrage theater[x].[y] The crowd extolls the virtue of decentralization without understanding why.

One of our darkest fears working in crypto was we were the latest suckers drawn into the space hoping to use it for our own reasons, but in reality we were helping to socially validate a larger scheme in which we had no control. As activity in crypto has dried up and token prices have remained largely fixed (and even gone up), it’s clear just how much of the juice in crypto is held by a tiny number of people. The people do not shape the culture. Money does[z][aa][ab].[ac]

The crypto cleanse

Earlier this year our friends and partners began to urge us to step away from the space. “Why are you wasting your brain on this stuff?” one of our partners asked. “You have better and more interesting things you could be thinking about.”

They were right. The rise and fall of the space and the daily gossip were taking up enormous mental energy. We had fully immersed ourselves in the culture and were thinking about it way too much.

We decided to go on a crypto cleanse. We unfollowed everyone on Twitter who talked about crypto. We unsubscribed from newsletters and Telegrams. We changed our information diet. We now had a crypto allergy — how would our bodies respond?

Within days we felt a difference. The crypto world faded from front and center to the periphery. During a two week vacation of not looking at Twitter, we didn’t encounter crypto once in our daily life or conversation[ad]. It was a sign of how Twitter-dependent the whole crypto scene and our focus really were. By spending time following those people, we had allowed them to influence us. But now the urgency of moving the world onchain began to feel much less… urgent[ae]. [af]Why were we doing this again?

The crypto cleanse created a clear vibe shift. We became over crypto as something that got us excited. And our interactions with the True Believers were having the opposite of their intended effects. At a crypto dinner in Paris, someone sitting near us went on an impassioned rant about how this great food should be tokenized to better ensure its freshness. “Everything should be onchain!” [ag]he declared, then referenced a recent drop of a box of peaches sold as NFTs (later RT’d by Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong) as evidence of a coming revolution.[ah] This got many +1s of approval from others listening in.[ai]

Among this crowd there are two worlds: one that’s already onchain and tokenized, and thus legitimate and part of their universe, and one that’s yet to be onchain, but soon will be – the always-condescending phrase “web2” meant to sum up literally 99.999999999999% of the known universe[aj].

Not long ago we described ourselves as “post-crypto” in conversation, which felt right. We’re not anti-crypto. We’re not against crypto. We get what crypto is (good and bad) and what it hopes to be (however far fetched).[ak] We’re still interested, but we’re not all-in on making our lives all about crypto or spending a lot of time with people who are.[al]

If you’re reading this as an outsider, this sounds common sense. But for people in crypto, it isn’t. To succeed in crypto means believing the rest of the world either doesn’t exist or is trapped in a pre-crypto state.[am][an] It’s total immersion or nothing.[ao]

Changing majors[ap][aq]

A year ago we were teaching a college class at the New School on cooperativism when crypto came up. We were talking about Songcamp, the collective of musicians who released a very collaborative project as NFTs. The universal hate students showed at even the mention of the word “blockchain” shocked us[ar]. In a flash, we realized how out of touch we were with real-world sentiment about crypto. How deep down the rabbit hole we’d already gone.

The past two years we majored in crypto, devoting most of our excess energy to learning the primitives in the space, keeping up with the latest news and developments, and investing in the social and business relationships that go with excelling in this world. But that period of paying close attention drew to a close for us earlier this year.

We are now post-crypto. To be post-crypto isn’t turning your back on the space or fighting against it.[as] Post-crypto means changing your major. It means consciously shifting your primary energy away from this specific space and putting it into something else instead. 

From our vantage point, minoring in crypto is totally fine. It’s a fascinating technology to keep abreast of[at][au]. There are fun ideas and experiments. But more important than any of that is to have a primary interest driving you other than crypto.[av][aw] One that’s under your control.[ax] One that fulfills the dreams of your best self and helps people you care about. One that’s not secretly controlled [ay]by a group of big-money whales you will never meet.

This is what all the most interesting people that are loosely connected to crypto are already doing because it’s who they naturally are. Poolsuite majors in ‘80s branding[az] and aesthetics with crypto as a minor at most[ba]. Many artists in the space make work far beyond the borders of crypto and use it only when it suits them. These kinds of people and projects are approaching crypto as a tool, not as a lifestyle, a religion[bb], or a get rich quick scheme. In 2021 conventional wisdom was “crypto wants to be seen.” But today people don’t want to see crypto, especially not in its current form. People don’t want it. At all.

The irony is that when crypto people stop majoring in crypto and start minoring in it they might find their influence among their peers and communities increase. Listening to someone who’s crypto-pilled feels like talking to someone with Fox News Brain[bc][bd] – every reference point baked in cult-like language and ideas that have no resonance behind their echo chamber. This makes “onboarding the next billion users” – a constantly stated goal by people in the space – a practical impossibility[be].

It’s crypto conventional wisdom that bear markets are the time to build, and a new bull market with exponential growth is just around the corner. Left unsaid is that the last bull market coincided with a huge run-up in the value of all assets – homes, shoes, baseball cards, everything that could be securitized – during which crypto simply mirrored wider trends. What’s the plausible path for that to happen again? It’s not easy to see under current conditions.

Does that mean crypto is over? No. It’s not going away, nor should it. Things we still love about crypto: instilling a civic spirit in the online world; explorations of cultural ownership and cooperation; data sovereignty; post-platformism; multi-sigs and payment splits; new sources of income for creative people.[bf] [bg][bh][bi]Leaving the rabbit hole means holding onto the good ideas from crypto and continuing to carry those values forward in practice. But the existing hyper-financialized culture and vibes will keep holding these things back[bj]. To the outside world crypto is already firmly established as financially dangerous and wasteful. It’s hard to see what in the current culture or energy that wants to or will in any way change that.[bk] [bl][bm]

When people talk about being “red-pilled,” they mean diving into a culture or philosophy so deep you don’t come back the same[bn][bo]. This is treated as a badge of honor, but to any person with a sense of self-respect and intellectual sovereignty[bp], this is an alarming proposition that few will freely choose. It asks too much. It is too much. It’s not something you’d advise a friend you loved to join. It’s something you’d tell them to be wary of.[bq]

To our fellow peers who have gone down the rabbit hole, you can climb back out again[br].[bs] You can shift your attention. You can regain sovereignty over your own beliefs, ideas, and network.[bt] You can belong not just to one community, but to many communities that reflect your hopes, dreams, and interests and you won’t even have to convert your money to a made-up currency to do it[bu]. Crypto isn’t the only game — it’s one of many. Let’s play.[bv][bw]

[a]Did you try spinning up a node and staking ETH to start earning rewards? There is a capital requirement, but communities as active as Metalabel's shouldn't have an issue with raising funds to meet this requirement.

[b]Nah. We put our energy into building things that will serve our purpose more than financial optimization

[c]Great :)

[d]_Marked as resolved_

[e]_Re-opened_

[f]this resonates, but it's a disappointing paradox. it implies that crypto is nerd sniping good people into wasting time on a pipe dream. I still hope that's not true.

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Sam White reacted with 🔥 at 2024-01-02 12:06 PM

Agalia Tan reacted with 🔥 at 2023-12-04 01:41 AM

Jonathan Hillis reacted with 🔥 at 2023-10-03 09:17 AM

[h]This applies to so many different fields. Blank out all references to crypto in this particular rabbit-hole, and it describes many other of our alluring, distraction-prone explorations of absurdity in Wonderland.

We're all [blank]-pilled from digging ever deeper in our rabbit holes.  Time to come up for air, reorient, talk to others in nearby fields, and switch majors as needed.

[i]This expression immediately reminded me of theme of these excellent essays on crypto, which also highlight and navigate the tensions between promise and reality: https://cryptocarnival.wtf/index

[j]OMG! 🤣

[k]_Marked as resolved_

[l]_Re-opened_

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Mark Ruchko reacted with ➕ at 2024-01-09 07:06 AM

[n]The most cringe of all

[o]These activities are ways to break into “web3” but don’t strike me as level 0 of crypto at large. Many of my (less conscientious, more finance oriented) friends chose apeing into shitcoins as their entrypoint and that’s, I think, an equally valid and enduring entrypoint to crypto. what’s fun about falling down the crypto rabbithole is that it’s a choose your own adventure story. fwiw i broke in through social tokens and the creator economy, and later chose my way into daos and defi.

[p]i’m always surprised to remember most people in crypto don’t know what nouns are. it feels surprising, coming from a 2020-wave entrant (social media reactionary), but that’s the effect of twitter’s algo, creating echo chambers where influences can appear larger, more impactful than they really are. web3 is maybe 1% of all crypto people right now.

[q]Really like this, borrowed it here: https://productidentity.co/p/6-twitter-whats-my-name-again

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Timeroutes reacted with 💯 at 2024-01-28 04:23 AM

Marcus Estes reacted with 💯 at 2024-01-30 16:39 PM

[s]Albeit cringe, perhaps they were being jocular? It was a happy hour, after all.

[t]Still hungover from the now bygone era of low interest rate environments and expansive monetary policy..

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marcus @estmcmxci reacted with ➕ at 2023-10-02 11:04 AM

[x]ooof

[y]This is giving little agency and credence to the intentions of founders at the expense of seeing VCs and whales as the overlords over founders, projects, and communities--feels a bit extreme

[z]Pardon my naïveté, but hasn't money always shaped culture, at least to a significant degree?

[aa]in a sense, money too is a technology

[ab]Yes

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Zane Starr reacted with 💯 at 2023-10-03 09:38 AM

[ae]The Coinbase PSYOP "Onchain Summer" is real.. lol

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SheShallConquer - reacted with 💡 at 2023-10-02 08:41 AM

[ag]Oh, drunken exuberance!

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marcus @estmcmxci reacted with 😂 at 2023-10-02 11:10 AM

[aj]god I love this essay

[ak]Worth stating what that is--not entirely clear to me so far? There are different reasons to be "here"; e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XlYSmIlpfs is one perspective, but a very clear one. And that's not something concrete like "blockchain", but the value that new technologies that use crypto(graphy) provide. The focus here is too much on the things themselves rather than what they enable compared to the next best alternatives. The focus is fine, and widespread in crypto-as-a-culture, but it bears saying. Being "post-crypto" here seems to be "post-tech-features"--great. Let's graduate and talk about the value the tech features provide, not the tech features themselves. How many do, and do not, talk about the internet as a set of tubes running underneath the sea? About email and how de/centralized it is via the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol? Doing so is good; we need people grappling with these issues. But this is not the end, it is the beginning. Speculating about protocols, whether L1s or L2s or SMTPs, is fine early on. Yet it is not the end. Specualiation will shift to the legitimate and reliable production of value over time--whether as individuals, or as collectives. We are getting there, but we are not entirely there yet. Just like the railroads, or the early internet, crypto remains usable for more technical users but not for less technical users....

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Agalia Tan reacted with 💡 at 2023-12-04 01:47 AM

SheShallConquer - reacted with 💡 at 2023-10-02 08:43 AM

[am]this is definitely one of the most powerful (and scary) parts about the crypto cult

it's kinda like everyone has blinders on

while that can be helpful for focus, also means you tend to ignore questions like ‒ what do we actually care about building? what is the real value here? how are we impacting people's real lives?

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Lisa Grimm reacted with ➕ at 2024-02-19 11:09 AM

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Alvaro Delgado reacted with ➕ at 2023-11-04 17:56 PM

[an]i love that. I find that this essay articulates everything i had wanted to say but with so much more clarity. 

on a slight tangent, what are the new vocabularies we can incorporate when talking about what we aspire towards?

[ao]Every great achievement in history was prefaced with an abject self-denial.

[ap]What does it mean to change majors? To me, it means being around new people, new ideas, new pedagogies, new social spaces, new practices, new watering holes, new people to look up to

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Mike Lim reacted with 🤩 at 2024-01-26 05:08 AM

Agalia Tan reacted with 🤩 at 2023-12-10 19:51 PM

Cate Fox reacted with 🤩 at 2024-01-22 08:27 AM

[aq]Totally. This passage reflects and encapsulates my entire experience in "Web3", completely.

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marcus @estmcmxci reacted with 😦 at 2023-10-02 11:15 AM

[as]Love this thought - I've been "post-crypto" for the past 5-6 years (BTC class of 2013), but I've found that they best way for me to get 'involved' was to keep tabs on the space and not to depend on it

I love my regular day-to-day work, and crypto is just a fun little flavor for me :)

[at]I think this is behind most product crashes in the the space, the conflating of crypto, with crypto being the product vs product being the product. Speaking hear of the why? Why are you doing x,y or z . I think Bitcoin/ETH have strong whys. 

Many products outside of that have marginal whys.

For crytpo, when we try and think about the escape velocity it requires for us to break out of the macro cycle we're in just the hyper capitalism of our era.

Most things in rl,  perpetually push the narrative of perpetual growth and increase which drives alot of the products that we see today and the shape the shape of the products. 

So crypto sprinkled onto a product is a rebellion against that while at the same time being caught in it as method of survival for all involved devs,consumers, investors and general people.

We currently all have the same number go up pressures that are irl.

So building an alternative system is always going to be difficult, so it makes sense to simply make the best products that you can if that involves crypto or not or radically rebel against the memes of perpetual growth, but how you do that is a good question that's open ended. imho

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Yancey Strickler reacted with 🔥 at 2023-10-03 14:00 PM

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Agalia Tan reacted with 🔥 at 2023-12-04 01:49 AM

[au]Very additive comment Zane, thank you!

[av]ironically, I think what might actually allow crypto to eventually work is people treating it as a minor that can be applied as needed to the primary thing they are doing

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Timour Kosters reacted with 💯 at 2024-01-28 19:58 PM

Marty Bell reacted with 💯 at 2024-01-29 06:33 AM

[aw]1000%!

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marcus @estmcmxci reacted with 🔥 at 2023-10-02 11:16 AM

[ay]An argument can be made that every organization is governed behind a veil.

[az]@marty@poolsuite.net 🦩

[ba]I'm technology agnostic - will use whatever tool makes most sense at the time to make a big idea happen. Unfortunately the majority of crypto/web3 is people using the technology primarily for the technology's novelty vs. its utility or effectiveness to support a larger mission or dream

[bb]there's something deeper here that I think is worth exploring. AI is in the same camp, a tool being treated as a religion. That's a dangerous game—technology is a tool and needs to be treated by builders as one in order to be useful.

And also, something *is* different about crypto and AI, and about the moment of human culture we find ourselves in. Society needs new lifestyles and religions right now, and these tools provide frameworks for exploring that.

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Agalia Tan reacted with 🔥 at 2023-12-04 01:49 AM

PΞther reacted with 💯 at 2024-04-18 03:01 AM

[bc]LOL BUt soooo true.

[bd]It's true

[be]I'll offer a counter: 

There are almost 2 BILLION iPhone users in the world today. Every iPhone comes with a Secure Enclave that encrypts personal data, like your biometrics. 

The Ethereum community is currently looking to integrate into this paradigm, which will "onboard the next billion users" by default. 

Read if you're feeling extra nerdy! 🤓: https://mirror.xyz/estmcmxci.eth/c_cFLM7gyaGbFO32p3ZTnI69lSGoRWbCwWvFRXkq12c

[bf]I like that Metalabel releases quality drops onchain as a way to split payments and offer new sources of income to more creative people. This makes being onchain an actual benefit of the product, not just a feature.

Even if web3/crypto is not the primary narrative or driver of interest, I really like Metalabel's integrated distribution model (a hybrid of onchain, physical, and digital). I really can't think of anyone else using all 3 modes of distribution seamlessly.

[bg]something like this near here?

Leaving the rabbit hole means holding onto the good ideas in crypto and continuing to carry these values forward in practice, rather than treat them as tech-determinist dogma

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Brodie Conley reacted with 💡 at 2023-10-03 07:04 AM

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Alvaro Delgado reacted with 💡 at 2023-11-04 18:00 PM

Paff Evara reacted with 💡 at 2023-10-03 08:43 AM

[bh]Added :)

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Sean MacMannis reacted with ♥️ at 2024-01-03 10:27 AM

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Jonathan Hillis reacted with ♥️ at 2023-10-03 09:34 AM

marcus @estmcmxci reacted with ♥️ at 2023-10-02 11:25 AM

[bj]100%!

[bk]I think it's a question of time horizons. I continue to believe that blockchain leviathans are an innovation that will have ramifications that will last for centuries. The problem with time horizons this long is that it means (1) it's an important innovation, and could be worth pouring a lifetime of effort into and (2) that lifetime of effort may not be enough to matter in the context of "current culture"

[bl]The continues development of infrastructure. We are not done yet. People are trying to move into a buildings half-built and realize there is not plug--we are not there yet. What we need, however, is investments, it is money, and it is builders who build, not people who want sit on couches and watch TV. We'll need the latter too, but we're not there yet.

[bm]Not sure this is the lt case, trying to avoid just saying anecdotally, it's kinda like f2p games or subscription services, people didn't like them at first until the value became more transparent for all parties.

[bn]I'm not sure I agree with this paragraph. As someone who values my intellectual sovereignty, one of the greatest joys of life is finding pockets of philosophy that leave my brain permanently morphed. The key is to not let one philosophy do all of the morphing, but to incorporate ideas into my own philosophy of the world.

[bo]Like that POV, Jon

[bp]Lovers of free thought!

[bq]+1

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Timeroutes reacted with ➕ at 2024-01-28 04:54 AM

[br]the rabbit hole is def assumed to be a one-way journey, seeing it articulated this way feels freeing

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Brodie Conley reacted with 🙌 at 2023-10-03 07:05 AM

Filipe Macedo reacted with 🙌 at 2024-01-14 07:39 AM

Jonathan Hillis reacted with 🙌 at 2023-10-03 09:41 AM

Paff Evara reacted with 🙌 at 2023-10-03 08:44 AM

[bs]I'd be interested to know how people super involved / dependent / invested in web3 *feel* after reading this. 

Specifically would be curious to hear if there's a strong reaction against? maybe a bit of grief for how difficult it has been? whether this elicits any particular curiosity or surprise?

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Agalia Tan reacted with ➕ at 2023-12-04 01:53 AM

[bt]another great line

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SheShallConquer - reacted with ➕ at 2023-10-02 08:53 AM

[bu]love this line, it may be that in shifting majors results in an order of attention more aligned to people, places, the world, to what it may *mean* to be human. These emphasis may also paradoxically help us find crypto a in its more proper place as serving particular interests in the world rather than existing as a siloed micro-industry existing "for its own sake".

[bv]What a fantastic, authentic, and well-informed perspective. Thank you for taking the time to write this, and to share it. This is wonderful piece!

[bw]actually these are all great!  a really beautiful and optimistic way to wrap this essay

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