Essential Archie Sonic Scale
Cosmology
Before we get to cosmology, there are very important statements from Ian Flynn, who used to write Archie Sonic.
He also confirms that there are infinite possibilities
Ian Flynn confirms there are Astral Planes in every zone
BumbleKast for August 19th, 2022 - Standard Q&A Podcast with Ian Flynn (I linked with time stamp)
Tails confirms that there are infinite possibilities of space
TailsTube #4
-With that statements, the baseline of cosmology should be 5D because it contains Games Sonic cosmology in it, here is basic scale of game cosmology but most important things that get the cosmology to 5D are Maginaryworld, a world made of dreams (universes) from all of people across dimensions and White Space, a void between dimensions which despite not having time in it (confirmed by Ian Flynn to also be aspatial) contains Universes such as Crisys City and many more (In story it was said to be eggman's past failures) while being infinite in size.
Source of All
The Source of All is the building blocks of existence, many times said to be source of all of existence, life, universe, multiverse etc
It's probably also time itself as it can see past, present and future
Zones
That part i took from this post
I want to make things clear about Zones, because it's gonna be important later
"A "Zone" in Archie Sonic can mean one of 4 things: A region within the main universe(Called "Prime Mobius"), an alternate universe, a pocket dimension, or an alternate timeline.
"Region Zones." These are regions within the Prime Mobius universe. Examples include: Marble Garden, Lava Reef, Ice Cap, etc.
The second one is called "Alternate Reality Zones." These are different universes separate from the main one. Examples include: Anti-Mobius, Planet Freedom, Sol Zone, etc.
The third one is called "Pocket Zones," which are exactly what they sound like: Pocket realities. Examples include: The Zone of Silence, Twilight Zone, Collision Course Zone, etc.
The fourth and final type is called "Alternate History Zones." These are simply alternate timelines branching off from the main one. Examples include: Light Mobius, Dark Mobius, 3437 P.X.E, etc."
Multiverse
These scans prove that even without SegaSonic cosmology, Archie reaches 5D lowballed
Infinite number of infinite sized multiverses of infinite universes with infinite branching timelines that can splinter upon every action/decision (which actually scales higher but ill get to that later).
Prime Zone
Prime Zone is core of the multiverse, its main universe for Archie Sonic
Couple times said to be infinite in size
Cosmic Interstate
It's Zone that lets you go almost anywhere in cosmology, planet, universe etc
A No Zone runs through every parallel dimension
The No Zone makes every foreigner of the Zone perpendicular to the inhabitants of the No Zone, just as Zonic appears perpendicular when outside the No Zone
Instead, a Spatial Stabilizer is needed to allow foreigners of the No Zone stand upright
Zector, the Zone Cop version of Vector, states spatial rules are more lax in the Cosmic Interstate
Maginaryworld
Basically works the same as its game variant
Its extradimensional
There's no more stuff I can add to Maginaryworld but it should be atleast 5D lowballed because extradimensional refers to space/time beyond regular spacetime.
Quantum Mechanics/Spacetime
Sonic in the 4th dimension
In book called Sonic in the 4th dimension (Which should be parallel universe to Prime Zone), we get deeper explanation how time works, but the most important scan is this one
The most important thing is that we get confirmation that transfinite mathematics/numbers exist, “The simultaneous existence and non existence of certain subatomic particles” is heavily connected to quantum mechanics, it reflects the probabilistic nature of quantum systems, where particles can exist in multiple states simultaneously until a measurement is made, collapsing the system into one of the possible states. This phenomenon is a fundamental aspect of quantum mechanics known as superposition.
James Wallis, author of this book asked about transfinite mathematics, said that he based physics/mathematics in book on Rudy Rucker Infinity and The Mind
Sonic Boom
Sonic Boom couple times has referenced String Theory or things like higher dimensions
Eggman created a device for science fest that was supposed to prove existence of string theory, that device was mini black hole, and black holes are strictly connected to string theory
Even if you dont buy that, infinite possibilities makes string theory exist either way
Continuous Time
CD알라딘보이니까 가능한 방대한 라운드 속을 소닉이 초광속으로 달려간다!
연속된 시간의 단편단편이 이어지는 시공간의 세계-
말로는 표현하기 어려운 신비의 세계를 직접 체험해 보시기 바랍니다
CD Sonic runs at supersonic speed through the vast rounds that only Aladdin Boy can do!
The world of space and time, where fragments of continuous time are connected.
A mysterious world that is difficult to describe in words.
Continuous time refers to a mathematical and theoretical framework where variables evolve smoothly and continuously over an unbroken range, typically represented as a real-valued parameter, without being restricted to specific discrete time points.
A continuous-time signal has values for all points in time in some (possibly infinite) interval.
With infinite possibilities and transfinite mathematics, continuous time should be infinite dimensional
Higher Planes of Existence
Mortal Plane
We know that there are at least 3 planes in Archie Sonic
The first is mortal plane
There's not much information about it besides this scan, so we can assume that mortal plane is all reality under next 2 next planes
The Next Evolution
The Next Evolution is a higher plane than a mortal one that echidnas achieve after dying, due to their connection with Chaos Force
Chaos Force
Chaos Force is a plane of existence that transcends any other plane, meaning that it is transcendent over Next Evolution which transcends structures such as Maginaryworld or Cosmic Interstate.
Concept of Time is irrelevant for those who exist in higher plane of existence (could apply to both Next Evolution and Chaos Force)
AP
Tanked a power of weapon that could destroy whole Solar System
Which later on sent him 849,000 light years away from Mobius (Earth)
Fought Mogul who was empowered by Chaos emerald, which is stated to possess infinite power, and chaos emeralds as a whole are embodiment/physical form of Chaos Force
Many times shown to be close in power with Knuckles who’s base form is empowered by chaos emerald
At this point base is easily Universal+ lowballed
Super Sonic and Hyper Knuckles clashing destroyed a whole Zone, bending time and space. The level of destruction was so strong it tapped both of them back to base forms
Tanked attacks from Enerjak (who took over knuckles) who’s power source is Chaos Force itself
Alongside Tails and Hyper Knuckles fought Master Mogul who absorbed energy from Enerjak
Worth adding that Master Mogul/his power was used to create Master Emerald
Which is capable of destroying infinite realities
Defeated Solaris
-Alongside Megaman defeated Sigma
Who was transcending cosmology
With use of Chaos Control reverted Super Genesis Wave which could affect reality with no limits
Speed
Run through thousand universes in day
Moved in stopped time
Threw ball of water in tenth of femtosecond
He reached farthest reaches of known space,mftl+ to arguably infinite because we know that Prime Zone is infinite in size
Another mftl+ to possibly infinite/inaccessible and highballed to immeasurable
moved time forward with sheer speed alone
Even tho unfortunately there are no feats for Super Sonic’s speed, its safe to assume that we has at least immeasurable speed for being powered by Chaos Emeralds and arguably having power over concept of time (via higher planes being above it)
Hax
Invulnerability
Immortality Type 3 and 8, Resurrection, Protective Aura, Resistance to Existence Erasure and Low Godly Regen via one billion rings
Molecular Manipulation/Intangibility via vibrating fast enough
Damage Reduction via rings, he could tank attack from Master Mogul in base who absolutely outscales him
Power Nullification
Possibly Passive Fate Manipulation and Abstract Existence Type 2, is embodiment of Chaos and consistent inconsistency on Quantum level which leads to why he always wins against eggman
Mogul says similar thing,
Possibly Conceptual Manipulation Type 1, Law Manipulation, Spacetime Manipulation, Reality Warping,Information Manipulation Type 2, Dream Manipulation in Super Form because Chaos Force allows to control everything that shapes reality, which should include concepts, simple example is chaos control which restored all of Sonics and Mega Man's reality
Higher Dimensional Manipulation - Master Mogul (who is empowered by Chaos Force) could kill Ancient Walkers, who existed within the Chaos Force. Sonic gets that from being superior to Mogul
Power null
Possibly Acausality Type 4
Wish Power
Elemental/Nature Manipulation (All from chaos force)
Adaptation - stated to possess forms that adapts to environment
Non Physical Interaction
Resistances
Sonic is resistant to
Extreme Cold
Cosmic Radiation (they are on the moon)
Magic and Curses
Mind Manipulation
Soul Manipulation - Power Rings prevented moguls spirit from dissipating into the immaterial
Life Force Absorption, Mind Erasure & Soul Erasure, Madness Manipulation, Memory Manipulation, Power Nullification, & Poison Manipulation - Both Mammoth Mogul and Enerjak were subjected to Egg Grape chambers and resisted their effects without lasting repercussions, the latter due to the power of a Chaos Emerald. The Egg Grape chambers erases the victim's mind and soul, infuses them with toxins, and saps them of their energy, with even the briefest exposure to them causing severe dips in mental capability and driving Naugus to insanity
Conclusion/TL;DR
Cosmology assuming Continuous Time, Quantum Mechanics and String Theory adding up infinite possibilities and transfinite math, should be Infinite dimensional but because we have higher planes that transcend a mortal plane, we should get +2D above cosmology meaning 1 layer into High Hyperversal. If we ignore all of these arguments, the verse is still minimum 7D
Sonic scales to or above cosmology via scaling off Enerjak, Mogul and especially sigma who theoretically transcends cosmology which should put Sonic +1D above cosmology. Overall Sonic should scale to 1 Layer above High Hyperversal (+4D above H1B), least where you can put him is 8D if you ignore every H1B argument.
Hax:
Invulnerability
Immortality Type 3 and 8,
Resurrection, Protective Aura
Resistance to Existence Erasure
Low Godly Regen
Molecular Manipulation/Intangibility
Damage Reduction
Possibly Passive Fate Manipulation
Abstract Existence Type 2
Possibly Conceptual Manipulation Type 1,
Law Manipulation,
Spacetime Manipulation,
Reality Warping
Information Manipulation Type 2,
Dream Manipulation
Higher Dimensional Manipulation
Power null
Possibly Acausality Type 4
Wish Power
Elemental/Nature Manipulation
Adaptation
Non Physical Interaction
Resistant to:
Extreme Cold
Cosmic Radiation
Magic and Curses
Mind Manipulation
Soul Manipulation
Life Force Absorption,
Mind Erasure
Soul Erasure
Madness Manipulation,
Memory Manipulation
Power Nullification
Poison Manipulation
and probably most of his own hax that come from chaos force
Note: This is not ultimate scale for archie, meaning that this doc might get edited when there's something important to change
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