OpenStreetMap Foundation

Licensing Working Group

  Tuesday 14th February 2012

19:00 - 20:04 GMT

Agenda & Minutes

Present: Richard Weait, Simon Poole, Michael Collinson, Oliver Kühn

Apologies: Grant

Minutes by: Michael

1. Adoption of Minutes of last meetings

The LWG last met February 7th for a long-form meeting.

Proposed: Simon

Seconded: Oliver


2. MATTERS ARISING (open action items from previous meetings)

  • Grant - Get a license and attribution page link as an XML Comment into these APIs: Rails API. (patch done but not live)
  • Mike -  combine Bing Imagery License comments as a succinct list for forwarding to Microsoft legal.
  • Mike - Incorporate into foundation landing page
  • Mike - Provide text to Grant re and friends in Sept 20th minutes. Addition: Pay attention to Poland UMP-pcPL project
  • Henk - Japan argath import. Ask if it could go now.?
  • Grant - UMP addition to, implement in Rails code: “More about OSM’s use of UMP data can be found here”
  • Mike - Make sure responding to German-language decliner mailings on a future agenda so that it gets done.
  • Oliver - ask if Ulf Lamping (ulfl) if he would be OK with transferring or marking Osnabruck City Council / Frida import clean so that it can continue being used. (Done. Frida has asked him and he agreed in writing.  Next step is to finish identifying the changesets  - Simon is on this)
  • Mike - Posting to Announce mailing list will be done after today’s “Night OF the Living Maps

3. Finalise today's agenda

4.  Database contact and re-map

Global picture: Monthly history planet dump stats being dumped now but take several days. Simon will then update his stats. [1]. Nodes that will likely not survive the license change are down another 4M from 29.2M to 24.9M, Ways and relations also moving down. [2].

[1] Based on node count,

[2] "Nodes Created" 

 ct            | users  |  sets   |   edits    


“Undecided” *  |      2 |    2800 |     560200

 Decline       |          360 |  141918 |   49221653

 Undecided     |  64922 |  373583 |   36527227

 Relicensed    |  55852 | 8158621 | 2023618682

 Always New CT | 105140 | 1947065 |  319430532

* and are unlikely to agree.

5. Technical Rebuild

We encourage OWG to get in contact with the rebuild group and move towards a test implementation based on Frederik’s WTFE algo running on OSMF hardware.

6. LWG Duties

There are our priority issues:

  1. OSM Poland
  2. OSM Czech Republic
  3. Handing over championship of the license changeover
  4. Review of Import Catalog *

* Any import that is not fully catalogued here with source and license details cannot be reviewed and should be deleted as soon as possible. We expect ANY import at this stage to be ODbL compatible, anything else is being deliberately blind and possible deliberate sabotage.


- Countries where data collections is not officially allowed (China, India, …)

Not discussed

- Wikipedia WIKI loves monuments competition and geocoding

Not discussed

Next Meeting:

Tuesday Feb 21st 11:00 PST / 14:00 EST / 19:00 UTC / 19:00 GMT(UK) / 20:00 CET