Licensing Working Group
Tuesday 7th February 2012
19:00 - 20:20 GMT
Agenda & Minutes
Present: Richard Weait, Simon Poole, Dermot McNally, Michael Collinson, Oliver Kuehn, Grant Slater (20:13), Steve Coast
Minutes by: Michael
1. Adoption of Minutes of last meetings
The LWG last met January 24th for a long-form meeting, (no meeting Jan 31st).
2. MATTERS ARISING (open action items from previous meetings)
3. Finalise today's agenda
4. Feb 1st OSMF Management meeting
OSMF board re-iterates its commitment to achieving the final license change-over by 1st April.
This was an important meeting for LWG to create momentum for the recruitment of technical volunteers and the generation, testing and execution of the final rebuild process. While some technical concern was expressed
5. OSM Czech Republic / pavel
Petr Morávek has sent LWG a list of who did what and has also got explicit OK from them, (except pavel), to continue using the data.
Unless valid objections are received, LWG will now ask that the 152 changesets  be marked as clean, so that Czech mappers can begin contact-and-remap
5. OSM Poland
The LWG is concerned about progress in resolving whether we could continue using UMP-pcPL data and will contact concerned parties. The LWG hopes that agreement can be given that existing integrated data, (but not new data), can can continue to be published either under any free and open license, (best long term solution from OSM’s perspective as it is compatible with our CTs) or specifically under ODbL, (may be more attractive to UMP as there are no future unknowns).
6 Database contact and re-map
Global picture: No updated node/highway ownership stats this week, this depends on monthly history planet dump . Nodes that will likely not survive the license change are down 3M from 32.2M to 29.2M .
 Based on node count, http://odbl.poole.ch/
 "Nodes Created" http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/munin.html
Dermot presented the technical options for the final rebuild. Frederik’s approach does not require a “big bang”. Key issues:
7. Splits and Merges
We propose not to attempt any special treatment for splits or merges. Splits are difficult to reliably process and merges even more so. The overall percentage of data affected is negligible, and any mapper feeling that his or her IP is being inappropriately retained will be accommodated.
8. Osnabruck City/Frida import
Oliver has contact Osnabruck City council to clarify if Council/donor has OK’d ODbL for Frida project import. Council/Frida team agrees to support the new license. However, import was done by Ulf Lamping, who refuses to accept the new CTs. We need to ask if he would be OK with transferring or marking them clean. Oliver
- Countries where data collections is not officially allowed (China, India, …)
- Wikipedia WIKI loves monuments competition and geocoding
Simon reported that he has been asked by a local Wikimedia person if would we like to cooperate more closely with Wikimedia for their next WIKI loves monuments competition (http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu/). If we want to present ourselves as a viable alternative to Google for this and similar activities we need to clearly state (for example in a community guideline) how we view geocoding based on OSM derived maps. Right now in the case of WIKI loves monuments it would probably qualify as a "Substantial part of the Contents".
We were unable to discuss this and will agenda it for a future meeting.
Tuesday Feb 14th 11:00 PST / 14:00 EST / 19:00 UTC / 19:00 GMT(UK) / 20:00 CET