Licensing Working Group
Tuesday 17th January 2012
19:00 - 20:00 GMT
Agenda & Minutes
Present: Henk Hoff, Simon Poole, Richard Weait, Michael Collinson, Dermot McNally, Oliver Kuehn
Minutes by: Michael
1. Adoption of Minutes of last meetings
The LWG last met January 10th for a long-form meeting.
2. MATTERS ARISING (open action items from previous meetings)
3. Finalise today's agenda
4. Ulf Möller
The LWG was shocked to learn of the senseless murder of our friend and colleague Ulf Möller. Ulf was a hard working and much appreciated member of the LWG from April 2009 through 2010. He contributed much to our input to the Open Knowledge Foundation regarding OBbL 1.0 drafting and also to our own drafting of a completely new set of contributor terms which we hope gives OSM contributors the flexibility to choose the most appropriate licensing conditions over many years to come. We offer our condolences to Ulf’s family.
5. Database contact and re-map
Pilot contact-then-remap programs were launched in the UK, Philippines, Canada, USA via the country mailing lists. Also France has or will start shortly. Island of Ireland well in hand already. The common themes are:
Anyone making personal contact with undecided mappers is ask to log their contact at
On a global basis, over 97.00% of nodes and 96.4% of highways  are now by folks who have accepted the new terms. Globally the number of problematic nodes is down from 36 million last week to 33M. Relations that may not survive the license change is down 4,000 . Ways have not shown much movement, perhaps due to countervailing adjustments in how the metric is calculated.
 Based on node count, http://odbl.poole.ch/
 "Nodes Created" http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/munin.html
A worldwide version of Simon’s web-based map of what the ODbL “Clean” and “Bad” map has now been released. Simon notes that it is not running on a very powerful machine.
Czech Republic and Poland discussed.
Mike - Improve UMP acknowledgement on our website.
Response from Pavel http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-cz/2011-December/006966.html
7. Database re-build
- Questions to legal counsel on GPX traces and bot changes
With legal counsel.
- 160 German-speaking decliners (Germany, Austria, Switzerland)
Simon has drafted a letter kindly asking them to reconsider and participate with us in the transition. The LWG would like to send this out.
- UK Ordnance Survey.
Clarification has now been received that OS cannot OK use of Codepoint (postal code) data in ODbL despite trying. Our thanks to OS contact for trying.
- South Africa
Agreement for use of South African national government map data now with the agency for signing. However, some supplementary documents also now need signing at our end. Mike to action.
- Countries where data collections is not officially allowed (China, India, …)
Tuesday Jan 24th 11:00 PST / 14:00 EST / 19:00 UTC / 19:00 GMT(UK) / 20:00 CET