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Odyssey Debate:

  Penelope knew that she was really talking to Odysseus in Book XIX.

 

Pro:  "Early recognition:" Certain clues in Books XVII and XVIII suggest that, beginning in Book XIX, Penelope knows that she is not speaking to a stranger but to Odysseus.  Thus, their conversation is cryptic and discreet in order to protect the secret of Odysseus' return, which shows Penelope to be quite clever and astute.

Con:  "Standard interpretation:"  Penelope does not recognize the stranger to be Odysseus until the so-called, "test of the bed," in Book XXIII.  The conversation in Book XIX is between queen and beggar, nothing more.

 

 

 

 

 

Details to consider:

Books XVII and XVIII: Generally.

Book XIX: Interview (lines 124-440; especially 259-300) Penelope's Dream (lines 620-641); Gates of Ivory and Horns (lines 652-659); The Contest with the Bow (lines 663-699).

Book XXIII: Penelope's startled disbelief (lines 12-25; 63-75), indecisiveness and cold reception (lines 94-125), Odysseus' plea (lines 186-194), The Test of the Bed (line 197-230), Penelope's explanation (lines 236-258)         

 

 

 

 

Odyssey Debate Procedure:

 

Statement of the Argument:  Each side gets a maximum of 7 minutes to read an opening statement, explaining their side of the argument.

 

Preparation for Rebuttal: Both sides get a 4 minute break to formulate a rebuttal statement

 

Rebuttal:  Each side gets 3 minutes to call the other side's main points into question.

 

Amendments to Closing Statements: Both sides get a 3 minute break to revise their closing statements to respond to their opponent's questions about their position.

 

Closing Statements: Each side gets a maximum of 5 minutes to sum up their position and bring their argument to a convincing close.

 

 

Important Reminders:

Each person must participate.  Groups should split up the responsibilities for the investigation , (4 subgroups, one for each book 17, 18, 19, 23).  Additionally, groups should split up the actual debate section, (3 subgroups, Statement of the Argument, Rebuttal, Closing Statement)