OpenStreetMap Foundation

Licensing Working Group

  Tuesday 17th July 2012

18:00 - 18:30 GMT

Agenda & Minutes

final

Present: Dermot McNally, Michael Collinson, Simon Poole, Grant Slater, Oliver Kühn

Apologies: Richard

Minutes by: Michael

1. Adoption of Minutes of last meetings

The LWG last met July 10th.

https://docs.google.com/a/osmfoundation.org/document/d/1W7eh17a7cEUilpbictKYnWJfHoxIcA1W_tPEmqvmDkc/edit

Proposed: Grant

Seconded: Simon

Accepted

2. MATTERS ARISING (open action items from previous meetings)

  • Grant - Get a license and attribution page link as an XML Comment into these APIs: Rails API. (should be complete soon)
  • Mike -  combine Bing Imagery License comments as a succinct list for forwarding to Microsoft legal.
  • Mike - Incorporate into foundation landing page http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms_Summary
  • Mike - Provide text to Grant re http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright and friends in Sept 20th minutes. ?OS or linking to attribution page or both? … liaise with CWG communicaton@osmfoundation.org 
  • Mike - Thank pavel for kindly agreeing to use the bulk of his contributions.
  • Grant - DMCA address update
  • Grant - We also need to have better set of DMCA-related links to satisfy US / UK / German law.
  • Mike - Data imports & reciprocal licenses. Air to Management team and to legal-talk
  • Grant - formal DMCA web-form completion before redaction ends, (as distinct from free-form email or postal letter).

3. Finalise today's agenda

4. Redaction Bot progress and issues

We thank lots of coders and those giving their support, this has sped things  up considerably.

Progress can be seen at http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php, (thanks Harry Wood for this).

Generally running smoothly.  UK and Ireland complete as of today, about 6 issues came up and were fixed within 24 hours … given the way the bot process is designed, these do NOT create permanent damage. Redaction rate has been increased from 2,000 transactions/minute to 8,000 per minute.

Now started Europe, where about ⅓ of global data is. One issue with a missing white list that is affecting Poland. Rebuild team is working on this as fast as possible.

5. AOB

  • Azzugia - We will passively monitor that the revised app makes it to the app store.

  • Google bike map

Stefen Tauner reported via email there appears to be a correlation between data entered in OSM and Google.

As we understand it, a non-existent cycleway was put into OSM along "Dresdnerstraße"and then deleted. Strangely, some or part of it also appears in Google Map. We feel there could three reasons for this:

1) The same dodgy import has been used in both OSM and Google Maps, so there is no copyright violation.

2) Google Mapmaker is live in Austria, so it is possible that a contributor has put the same data into both OSM and Mapmaker, so there is no copyright violation.

3) Data has been copied from OSM to Google Maps or vice versa.  There is then a copyright violation in one direction or the other.

We note that the cycleway is no longer in OSM, so there is no problem with the cycleway itself. However, it may be systematic of other copying and this should be monitored by the Austrian community.

Stefan’s references:

1: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-at/2012-July/004676.html 

2: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12042766

3: https://maps.google.at/maps?saddr=Leystr.&daddr=Leystr.&hl=de&ll=48.230276,16.387396&spn=0.009863,0.020492&sll=48.230276,16.387396&sspn=0.019725,0.040984&geocode=FS_63wIdXBP6AA%3BFZ783wIdmhD6AA&dirflg=b&mra=dme&mrsp=0&sz=15&t=m&z=16&lci=bike

4. dresdnerstraße http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/148866127

Next Meeting:

Tuesday July 24th 18:00 UTC / 19:00 BST(UK) / 20:00 CEST