Armchair Expert Show – Ken Goldberg interviewed by Dax and Monica – Discussion Timeline
90 mins, posted 9 Jan 2025
Podcast (audio only):
https://armchairexpertpod.com/pods/ken-goldberg
YouTube (video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RPkT-J5NOg
Times below on YouTube version:
00:00:0 Introduction, About AI but playful, Skirball Art Exhibit
00:2:00 Ken is “Unicorny”
00:2:45 How Dax and Ken met
00:6:50 The Underpants on the floor
00:8:40 The Elephant in the Room
00:9:00 Being born in Nigeria
00:12:00 Bethlehem PA
00:16:00 Getting 2 front teeth knocked out
00:20:20 Attitudes toward money
00:23:30 UPenn, Edinborough, Scotland, AI
00:25:30 Morocco story
00:29:00 Al
00:33:00 Esalen, coming to California
00:36:00 Berkeley - Rebels, Beat Poets, Oppenheimer
00:38:00 Robotics History: Egyptians, Pygmalian, Golem, Frankenstein, Her, Hubris, Fears, “To save energy, Robots will kill all the Humans”
00:42:30 Henry Ford, The word “robot” (1920), Pandemic, Sigmund Freud’s Uncanny
00:45:30 Robot Grasping
00:46:00 Moravec’s Paradox, crows ore dextrous than robots
00:49:00 Animal motor skills - 300M years evolution vs. Human Intelligence - 6M years
00:51:30 Human Touch
00:53:30 The Roomba is like an amoeba
00:59:30 Dex-Net, Jeff Bezos story
01:04:00 Friction and quantum physics
01:06:00 Robotics Bubble - overexpectations
01:07:00 Why you can’t always trust videos about robots
01:14:00 Fears about robots stealing jobs
01:17:00 Theory about AI doomsayers
01:18:00 Notebook LM and Complementarity
01:23:00 Art, Tiffany, Getty Museum Art & Science exhibit at the Skirball: Ancient Wisdom for a future Ecology: Trees, Time, and Technology
01:26:00 Art and Science, Aha Moments in discovery
01:30:00 Progress is not exponential
01:32:00 Why people love Dax and Monica