News

• Jim and I are doing our first-ever Disney Dish cruise in 2022.  We’re calling it “The Disney Dish on the Disney Wish”  

• Dates are September 23-26, 2022.  That’s a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday out of Port Canaveral
• We made it 3 nights so it’s as affordable as possible.
• We’ll have tons of chances to meet up while on board, we’re planning some exciting events so we can all get to know the ship, and we’ll record a special, live show while on board.
• We have 1 cabin left, and then that’s all we think we can handle in terms of group size.
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• Jim and I are doing the second annual Gingerbread Challenge in Walt Disney World, starting Friday December 2, 2022.  
  
• Also, we’re looking at March 30-April 1, 2023 for our group cruise on the Starcruiser Halcyon. That’s a Thursday check-in and a Saturday check-out, which is also, somehow appropriately, April Fool’s Day.  
  

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• Disney earnings call yesterday (Wednesday).  Largely focused on Disney+ streaming, but some park highlights:

• Disney expects Galactic Starcruiser to be sold out through the end of their 3rd quarter, which is the end of June, 2022.  

• And that reminds me that Jim and I are doing our own group cruise on the Starcruiser Halcyon.

• Genie+ continues to deliver strong revenue to the company.  No surprise there.
• Jim, I wanted to get your take on Bob Chapek’s comments about merchandise sales:

• Growth in merchandise licensing was driven by higher sales of merchandise based on Mickey and Minnie, Spider-Man, Star Wars Classic and Disney Princesses
  

• The first motorized ride vehicle testing has started at Tron: Lightcycle/Run over at the Magic Kingdom.  I’ve said before, Jim, that I think a December 1 official opening date for Tron is my best guess.
  

Surveys

From Barbara, a Disney survey question around making park reservations:

From Danielle, a Universal Orlando survey:

A tres leches cake, also known as pan tres leches, is a sponge cake—in some recipes, a butter cake—soaked in three kinds of milk: evaporated milk, condensed milk, and heavy cream. When butter is not used, tres leches is a very light cake, with many air bubbles.

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And finally, more than a dozen questions around pricing, like this:

Listener Questions

From Mallory:

Hi Jim and Len!

I loved the recent episode where Christina discussed the gluten-free options at Disney World.  In gluten-free circles, Disney is really respected and appreciated and has been for years.  In 2013, when my sister's wheat intolerance was pretty bad and we marked gluten-free on our Disney dining plan, my family was really impressed on how much care the Disney cast members and chefs understood that need.

 I think something that's actually pretty noteworthy about WDW's gluten free options is that they often taste really good, which speaks to the talent of the Disney chefs.  I don't know if any of you have ever had gluten-free food from the grocery store, but a lot of it isn't great.

And just to explain how gluten-free stuff or bread works, most times wheat flour is replaced with something like corn flour or potato flour, though most gluten-free pizzas now use cauliflower crusts.  I think in the case of Liberty Tree Tavern's gluten-free stuffing, they use corn bread.

From Anna:

Loving the show, something I look forward to every Monday. :) Have you guys heard anything about when the second elevator might be up and running at Tower of Terror? My 7 year old is desperate to ride it for the first time during our July trip and I'm not looking forward to the super long queues there!

Len: If it’s important, go first thing in the morning, or last thing at night, or use G+.

Christina:

History of “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” at the Disney theme parks

Part Two of Two (I think)

Where we left off: On the basis of ET, The Extraterrestrial, Michael Eisner was looking to get Disney back into the science-based comedy movie market.  And Disney’s first attempt, Flight of the Navigator, didn’t do great at the box office, but did bonkers business in the home video market, which gave Michael some confidence that there’s a backstop where even moderately good films can make back their production costs over time.

History of the “Honey, I Shrunk” film franchise at the Disney theme parks

Part Two of Two

Okay. So where we left off last week was … Michael Eisner -- when he came on board as Disney’s new CEO in the mid-1980s -- had gone over the Company’s books and learned that there was this certain type of film (a science-based gimmick comedy) that the Studio used to release that had done very well at the box office over the past 25 years or so.

We’re talking about Disney-produced comedies like “The Absent-Minded Professor,” “The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes,” “The Misadventures of Merlin Jones.” FX-filled films where college kids accidentally a paint that could then make them invisible. Or a family pet -- in this case, a duck -- gets exposed to radiation and then starts laying solid-gold eggs. You know, things that could happen to anyone in every day life. Provided -- of course -- your name is Dean Jones or Kurt Russell.

So Eisner decides that it’s high time that Walt Disney Pictures gets back in the science-based gimmick comedy business again. Which is why he greenlights production of “Flight of the Navigator,” which arrives in theaters in July of 1986. The only problem is … This Randall Kleiser film (Remember that name. It’s going to come up again) suffers from “This-movie-really-wants-to-be-E.T.-instead” syndrome. Which means that it’s heartfelt and has some wonderful, sincere moments as well as some killer visual effects.

But “Flight of the Navigator” is not long on laughs. And remember that the reason that Eisner put this Randall Kleiser film into production in the first place is because he wanted to revive the science-based gimmick comedy genre at Disney Studios.

But “Flight of the Navigator” (while it didn’t exactly set the box office on fire when it was released to theaters in the Summer of 1986) did well enough when the VHS version of this movie hit store shelves in January of 1987 that Eisner thought “Okay. We can take another stab at this. Get me a script for another science-based gimmick comedy.”

Which is when the script for “Teenie Weenies” shows up on his desk.

Now “Teenie Weenies” has kind of an interesting pedigree. Because it came to Disney by way of Stuart Gordon. Who -- back in the mid-1980s, anyway -- was best known for having written & directed some pretty out-there horror comedies, 1985’s “Re-Animator” and 1986’s “From Beyond.” But Stuart also had a love for cheesy 1950s sci-fi films like “The Incredible Shrinking Man” (which Universal Pictures first released to theaters in April of 1957).

And one day Gordon had a brainstorm: What if -- instead of some earnest white guy scientist in a lab coat who gets shrunk down to the size of a bread crumb -- it’s a kid instead? Or -- better yet -- kids? What would happen in that case?

So Gordon and his frequent collaborators -- Ed Naha & Brian Yuzna -- work up a screenplay that explores this idea. And it eventually makes its way to Disney. And Eisner likes what he sees. But even so, Michael doesn’t want to spend a whole lot of money on this movie. Plus he’s not crazy about that title, “Teeny Weenies.” Can we please come up with a better title for this movie? Which is why -- for a time -- this film is called “Grounded,” then “The Big Backyard.”

So Stuart is initially supposed to direct this movie for Disney. Which -- I know -- given that this guy previously directed really out-there horror comedies (Trust me, folks. If you’ve ever seen “Re-Animator,” you’ll know what I’m talking about) seems like a weird choice for the Mouse House.

But Michael’s thinking at the time was … Well, “The Big Backyard” is going to be full of visual effects shots. And given some of the scenes in “Re-Animator” & “From Beyond,” this guy already knows how to do this stuff. So better to stick with the devil you know.

So -- to keep production cost down -- Disney decides to shoot “The Big Backyard” down in Mexico City at Churubusco Studios. So Stuart casts up the project. FYI: The role of inventor Wayne Szalinski was originally written with Chevy Chase in mind. But since he was shooting “National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation” around this same time, he wasn’t available. So Disney then offered this part to John Candy. Who -- when he passed on the role -- suggested that the Studio consider Rick Moranis, his old pal from “SCTV,” for the part. Which is how Moranis became Szalinksi.

Anyway … Production is just about to get underway on “The Big Backyard.” But then Stuart Gordon gets sick and has to withdraw from this project. Michael Eisner now starts freaking out. I’ve got a big new visual-effects-drive comedy for Disney Studios all set to start shooting and -- days before production is supposed to begin -- I don’t have a director.

Enter Academy Award-winning visual effects guy Joe Johnston. This is the guy who started as a concept artist on the first “Star Wars” film, went on to design Boba Fett for “The Empire Strikes Back,” and -- by the time “Willow” rolled around -- George Lucas had promoted Joe to associate producer. More to the point, Johnston was the production designer on those two “Ewok” TV movies that ran on ABC in 1984 & 1985.

So Joe had come up through the ranks at Lucasfilm. Yeah, he hadn’t actually directed a movie up until that time. But he’d basically done everything else you could do behind-the-camera on a big visual effects film. Johnston was the right guy in the right place at the right time when Disney desperately needed a director for “The Big Backyard.” So tag. You’re it.

And Joe -- to his credit -- delivered. Disney was so pleased with the work that he did on “The Big Backyard” that -- after this science-based gimmick comedy officially opened at the box office in June of 1989 and did really, really well, the Studio immediately offered Johnston another FX-fille project. This one being a big screen adaptation of Dave Stevens’ cult classic comic book, “The Rocketeer.”

But that title. “The Big Backyard.” Michael still hated it. He wanted something punchy & fun like the titles of those earlier Disney science-based gimmick comedies from the 1960s & the 1970s. Something like “Now You See Him, Now You Don’t” or “The Monkey’s Uncle.” A title that tells you right up front that this is a family comedy.

There was a line in the movie that always got a big laugh at test screenings. It was when Rick Moranis turned to his wife Marcia Strassman and then reluctantly admitted “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids.” Eisner said “That gets a laugh. Let’s go with that.” Which is how “The Big Backyard” became “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids.”

And “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” did crazy business at the box office in the Summer of 1989. We’re talking $222 million in ticket sales worldwide. Which is the equivalent of nearly a half a billion dollars in today’s money. Which then made “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” the highest grossing live-action Disney film of all time. A title it retained for five years, only to then be dethroned by “The Santa Clause.” Which -- FYI -- Disney+ is currently prepping a sequel to, starring Tim Allen.

Now it’s worth noting here that one of the reasons that “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” did so well at the box office in the Summer of 1989 was that -- right in front of this Joe Johnston movie -- was the very first “Roger Rabbit” short, “Tummy Trouble.” The film that inspired this short -- “Who Framed Roger Rabbit” -- had come out the previous summer and done very well at the box office. That Robert Zemeckis movie had taken home four Oscars at the 61st Academy Awards, which had been held just three months previous in late March of 1989.

So there are some folks even today who say “Well, ‘Honey, I Shrunk the Kids’ wasn’t really this monstrous hit back in the Summer of 1989. It was more a case that ‘Honey, I Shrunk the Kids’ -- when it was paired with “Tummy Trouble” -- was such a tempting combo that moviegoers just could not resist this double bill. Especially on the heels of “Who Framed Roger Rabbit” and how well that movie had done the previous Summer.

This would become painfully clear in the Summer of 1992 when the sequel to “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” -- “Honey, I Blew Up the Baby” -- finally arrived in theaters. Only instead of a new “Roger Rabbit” short, this Randall Kleiser film (See. I told you that name would come up again) had a Disney-produced CG short in front of it called “Off Your Rocker.” And that Barry Cook cartoon -- while fun -- just wasn’t the box office draw that “Tummy Trouble,” “Roller Coaster Rabbit” or “Trail Mix-Up” had been.

Consequently, “Honey, I Blew Up the Baby” only did about 2/3rds of the business that “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” did domestically. We’re talking $96 million in ticket sales in North America versus $130 million in North American ticket sales back in 1989.

Which -- when you factor in that the original “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” cost $18 million to make versus the $32 million it cost to make “Honey, I Blew Up the Baby” -- isn’t a great place to be. Especially in a Hollywood where -- increasingly -- the Studio’s accountants are the ones calling the shots. Rather than the creatives.

But that’s all off in the future. At this point in today’s story, it’s still the Summer of 1989. And “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” is still this enormous hit. Which Disney immediately wants to make all sorts of sequels to.

Which is why -- as the Wall Street Journal reported in August of that same year -- the Studio pre-emptively trademarked a bunch of possible titles for follow-ups to the original “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” movies. These titles included:

• “Honey, I Sent the Kids to the Moon”
• “Honey, I Made the Kids Invisible”
• “Honey, I Xeroxed the Kids”
• and “Honey, I Switched Brains with the Dog”

Now where this gets interesting is that -- even before “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” had opened in theaters (on June 23, 1989) -- Michael Eisner was insisting that this Joe Johnston movie be folded into the Disney theme parks somewhere.

Luckily in the Late Winter / early Spring of that same year, the Imagineers were readying the Disney MGM Studio theme park for its May 1st opening. And since WDW’s 3rd gate was supposed to help promote the Studio’s latest releases … Well, WDI decided that -- as part of the Visual Effects portion of that theme park’s Backstage walking tour (which used to be the second half of the Tram Tour at Disney MGM) -- they’d use Blue Screen as a way to recreate that moment from “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” when the boys accidentally fall onto the back of a bumble bee and then get flown all around the backyard.

Seven weeks later, when “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” finally opened in theaters and then became the fifth highest grossing film of the year (behind “Batman,” “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade,” “Lethal Weapon 2” and “Rain Man”), Eisner insisted that something of size that celebrated the “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” be built at Disney MGM. Which is why -- between New York Street and the Studio Catering Company -- a brand-new playground began to rise up.

The gimmick of the “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: Movie Set Adventure” was -- as soon as Guests enterted this space -- they were shrunk down to the size of an ant. This enclosed space (which was designed to look like a teeny tiny chunk of the Szlanski’s backyard that was now writ huge) featured 30-foot-tall blades of grass that were built out of metal & fiber glass. Which -- prior to installation -- had to (in model form, mind you) go through a wind tunnel test to prove that these faux enormous blades of grass could withstand 300 MPH winds and still stay in place. Because … Well, Florida. Hurricanes. You do the math.

And since this “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” play area was being built in Florida … Well, keeping Guests cool was a major consideration. So the Imagineers give people some choices. They could either stand under a 52-foot-long nozzle of a giant garden hose and periodically get dripped. Or they could stand in front of a giant dog nose. And -- every so often -- that enormous canine would sneeze. But instead of snot, a cool mist of water would come shooting out of those enormous nostrils.

By the way, both of these enormous props -- the leaky nozzle of that garden hose AND that giant dog nose -- were manufactured out in California at WDI’s Tujunga facility and then shipped cross country. You gotta wonder what motorists in the Midwest thought of that as they saw a flatbed with a giant dog nose on it rolling by them on the interstate.

A lot of folks -- when talking about the “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: Movie Set Adventure” -- remember that soggy material which covered the ground. It sort of looked like dirt. That was Safe Deck, a material that the Imagineers found which was made up of ground-up old truck tires. Mind you, to make it actually look like the dirt you have in your own backyard, the Imagineers had to scatter little handfuls of ground up green truck tires & red truck tires & blue truck tires. Which brings us to the real important question: Where do you get green & blue truck tires?

The ”Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: Movie Set Adventure” had a good long run at the Studio theme park. It officially opened on December 17, 1990 and then closed on April 2, 2016 to make way for an entirely different sort of movie set adventure. Maybe you’ve heard of the place? “Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge” ?

Anyway … On the next installment of this series (The third & final chapter of the “Honey, I Shrunk the Kids” story), we’ll discuss Disney’s troubles when it came to developing a suitable sequel to the first film in this series. Not to mention the challenges that the Imagineers faced when they decided to build a new 3D movie experience around Wayne Szalinski’s shrink ray.

Get ready for way too many mice.