Lyon MyData & PIMS meeting, June 19–20, 2018
Venue: TUBÀ, 69006 Lyon-6E-Arrondissement | Contact Antti 'Jogi' Poikola antti.poikola@aalto.fi or Sarah Medjek smedjek@fing.org |
REGISTER HERE (for free)
MyData is getting established as an international not-for-profit organisation. The MyData Declaration co-written by the key players in the field last year set the common underlying values for forming the new organisation. Your input is now highly appreciated in shaping its internal and external identity. Lyon meeting is the next important step on that journey, aiming to crystallise the vision, public position and governance for the organisation, and solve the practical matters of getting legally set up.
As agreed in the memorandums of the previous meetings, the organisation aims to become an internationally acknowledged and well-branded authority in the personal data domain. This should happen via building a strong and efficient cross-domain alliance for the businesses and other stakeholder organisations in the human centric personal data domain atop the already well established local hubs network.
In Lyon we are working with the set of opinion statements regarding the aims and means of the MyData organisation. Please read and comment the statements in the document: http://okf.fi/mydataorg-statements
PART 1: What do we want to change?
PART 2: Who do we represent?
PART 3: What do we do?
PART 4: How could MyData be funded?
PART 5: How should MyData be organised?
The Lyon meeting is open to all individuals and organisations taking an active role in the personal data ecosystem, whether companies or research institutes, regulatory bodies or others. Feel free to pass this invitation to relevant people.
AGENDA Tuesday 19th of June
12pm - Lunch and pre-meetings
LE BISTROT du POTAGER
161 - 163 boulevard de Stalingrad
69006 LYON
+33(0)4 78 93 19 75
Reservation: FING
If you do not find the place, please call to Jogi +358 44 337 5439
3pm - Roundtables “Goals of MyData Organisation” (at TUBA)
PART 1: WHAT DO WE WANT TO CHANGE? What does a world in which MyData is not necessary look like? |
5pm - MyData Evening (public event)
7pm - Cocktail/networking
A light dinner with drinks will be offered to the participants
AGENDA Wednesday 20th of June
9am - Community meetup over breakfast
9.30am - Parallel workshops: “Make it Happen - Building MyData Organisation”
PART 2: WHO DO WE REPRESENT? Who can or should be members and what are the membership criteria of the organisation? |
3x 30 min.
PART 3: WHAT DO WE DO?
There are several paths towards the same goals. Which activities MyData organisation should focus? | PART 4: HOW MYDATA COULD BE FUNDED? How is the organisation funded? What are the fees for different kinds of members? | PART 5: HOW SHOULD MYDATA BE ORGANISED? How is the organisation governed to guarantee fair, balanced and efficient decision making? |
12pm - Lunch
1pm - Workshops continue “Building MyData Organisation”
2pm - Presenting and concluding - Lyon Memorandum
4pm - End of the meeting
After the Lyon MyData & PIMS meeting, there is a chance to join
Mesinfos Open Conference - Sharing the power of personal data
June 21
9.30am to 5.30pm
86 quai Perrache, 69002 Lyon - France
(The event will be in French, but real time translation will be available)
Fing, Lyon City and their partners invite you to discuss the outcomes of the MesInfos pilot: a unique project that aims to put the power of personal data in the hands of the individuals they concern, the embodiment of the Mydata model in France!
So join us on the 21st of June to learn from the experience of MesInfos’ 2000 users, its industrial partners and the developers ; to understand the potential and challenges of Self Data/MyData for all parties, how it relates to the new data portability right within GDPR; and to map the way forward for companies, local communities and public agencies.
You can already register here, the event is free to participate.
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Short URL: http://okf.fi/Lyon_meeting
1. Aims and ideal outcomes of the meeting
15 minutes // individually and in pairs (Jogi facilitates)
45 minutes // at home base groups
GOALS:
GOALS (for grouping):
OUTCOME:
FACILITATION (not in groups):
FACILITATION (in groups):
Topic: Reminder: Sign up for the MyData & PIMS meeting in Lyon, France, Jun. 19–20.
Dear MyData Global Network member,
1. We’re hereby reminding you about the MyData Global Network & PIMS meeting in Lyon, France, Jun. 19–20.
See the Lyon meeting agenda with the key questions that will be discussed (INSERT LINK https://mydata.org/lyon/ ) (also in the attached invitation).
Face-to-face meeting in Lyon is the most important venue for making collective decision about the future of MyData and we hope that many of you will join the meeting.
2. For those who are coming to Lyon and are looking for accommodation, we have booked an Airbnb near the town hall, 2km west of the venue. John from the MyData conference core team will stay there, and will be able to host 4-5 people from the community in shared rooms. The cost for this accommodation will be covered by us! Please ping @JohnSperryn on slack or write to john@mydata.org to reserve a place in the Airbnb.
3. Last but not least, have you already registered for the MyData 2018 conference? The programme /INSERT LINK: https://mydata2018.org/programme// is out, and early bird prices are still available until 22 June! Get your conference passes at https://mydata2018.org/registration/
REPLACE THE LAST POINT / FOR FOUNDERS ONLY:
3. Last but not least, have you already registered for the MyData 2018 conference? The programme /INSERT LINK: https://mydata2018.org/programme// is out, and as last year, we are happy to welcome you with the special founders price - 180€ for full conference pass and 108€ for one-day conference pass. Please choose your pass according to your affiliation and use the discount code FULLFM for full conference passes or ONEDAYFM for one-day conference pass. The amount payable will be reduced to 180€/108€ respectively. These prices are available until 11 August!
Looking forward seeing you in Lyon in June, and/or Helsinki at the end of the summer!
Best wishes,
Topic: Invitation to MyData & PIMS meeting in Lyon, France, Jun. 19–20
Dear MyData Global Network member,
MyData is getting established as an international not-for-profit organisation as 1) industry alliance for PIMS network members; and 2) international platform organisation for MyData local hubs.
The Lyon meeting (Jun. 19-20) is the next important step on that journey, aiming to crystallise the vision, public position and governance for the new organisation.
See the Lyon meeting agenda with the key questions that will be discussed (also in the attached invitation).
Face-to-face meeting in Lyon is the most important venue for collective decision making and we hope that many of you will consider joining the meeting. However, we do want to also involve those of you who can not travel there.
If you are willing to contribute in the discussions that will shape the future of MyData do so, please reply to this email by choosing your option:
a) YES, I will be in Lyon (register here)
b) I may be able to participate in Lyon, not sure yet
c) I can not participate in Lyon, but want to contribute in the discussions in other ways
Having these responses helps in planning the Lyon meeting and organising other channels for joining in the discussions.
The Lyon Meeting starts on Jun 19th at 3PM and ends on Jun 20th at 4PM. Moreover, on the 21st you will have the opportunity to attend the MesInfos Open Conference, a full day dedicated to the learnings of the MesInfos Pilot: a 2000 test users experiment of the MyData model.
Torino Memorandum (April 2018)
After the Meeting in Torino, April 12th-13th 2018
The important guidance from the previous MyData Global meetings are captured in the Berlin, Aarhus and Torino memorandums at: http://mydata.org/memorandums
In the Torino meetup we made three significant decisions:
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Notes taking for the 19th
Expectations from the 2 days
Clarity about MyData
Cooperation and dialogue
See what is going on
Learn and meet people (what are the challenges)
Stumblen in here
Concrete and actionable ideas
Understand what MyData
Project collaboration
Curiosity
Lot of good discussions
Contribute
Bridge building
Business part of MyData (projectable models, non profit organisation)
Facilitate discussions
Understand what MyData does
Understand what people want from data
See what happening globally and figure out how to make MyData going forward
Expecting help to develop MyData
How to get from a dream to an industrial solution
Want MyData to be one of the actions part of a european project (Urban Agenda)=> road map at the european level
Share practices about standards/codes/API + regulation side (slovakia gov to bring new law about data (public and private data))
Running MyData for Public Data in Estonia - hope: share practices,
Create a network of like minded people/projects
New contacts
Where to go next
Question
What is the connection between very different but sometimes similar things that people want? How to move everything forward?
What are the connections between all the expectations ?
2 parts:
-> 1h30 ; discussing about my data organizations establishing at non-profit organization : why should be do that ? What would change in the world if mydata succeeded
=> New comers friendly program : introducing what’s happening in local hubs
=> Start with high level question, why should we do it ? what should we start to do ?
=> We needed to have the identity of this movement (MyData Declaration)
Instruction
From formal to actionnable rights
Data literacy and skills : Being educated and informed about our data rights
#guidelines:
Human centric design and design paterns so that not everything is design differently
#Awareness
Education: transparency is not actually “open” ( so we need to explain it more)
Education; if you don’t know what you rights you have you can’t use them - so individuals need to be helped.
If you have a situation where you can see that my data is of value, or can create value then it’s easy for me to understand.
Seeing the value of my personal data (being aware of the value) is a good way to understand.
Lessons from current issues like cambridge analytica
=> Trust between individuals and public authorities
#Tools and services (to collect, or that support GDPR)
Right to be forgotten
Guide for organisations to implement privacy friendly tools
#Ethics and informed consent
1964: Medical research rights etc (find the name of the declaration - made after Nuremberg) => it’s not a regulation but it has affected all regulations after that.
Developing the philosophy and data ethics
#Business
Competition between actors that can “action” individuals rights (the tools).
Creating an advantage for organizations that respect those actionable rights (Let’s not google and facebook be the only PIMS)
Maintain a nation’s rights all over the world (if Im french, my rights in term of data should be the same wherever I am)
From data protection to data empowerment
#Usercentric services: briging it back to individuals
Who has access to what and whom?
#infrastructure and portability;
Services to make it possible
#DataEducation
Data Donation; donating my data to research.
When your date in under your control you can make it available for research institutions and it can empowered society and science, not only individuals!
Incentives : Make the one who are doing something more visible (communication/promotion/glamour)
Incentive: not just monetary but make people, org, cities, customers etc to act in the right way.
Best practices: share, translate : Share them/translate them
Algorithms transparency
We should give up worrying about the law and looking more into the business of it. If we wait for the legislator to follow we will wait for a long time! We can do it without the legislator.
Opposite of consent: “is it ok for me to use your data?” <= it’s not empowering! The empowering thing is: I can set the agenda of what to do with my data
A.I: transparency too is needed.
When we empower people to work with their data: what will happen to their digital copies, it’s impossible to get rid of the data
Long term scenario on data format can go wrong with that.
From closed to open ecosystems
#portability:
We need examples of open ecosystems
Switch from one service to :another quickly and easily
Easy way to practice portability
#Openness: can we deal with it?
Choices and concerns: responsibility on the individuals can be too much!
There should be a truly free and open exemples.
Find analogy in the world we know to understand what is “open”
What are the meaningful borders of what’s being open
Not everything needs meaningful consent.
There is a lot of data common going on, not just on personal data - what could be the infrastructure governance? Who owns it?
It is sometimes say that kings (????) are controlling access and formats. Ownership of data is philosophical question bu the most important question is: who control it?
Standardization
If the standards are too complex, nobody can implement it, so we need easy, local to adopt by small actors too.
I would like to see Open not as an end to itself but as way for something else. Open should be the choice of those actors. For instance Open Software: no particular actions from gov to push it.
There are no universal solution in that area, it will start with that really matters: data in health, financial data etc. From the real need it will start and grow into ecosystems of ecosystems.
You cannot expect all industries at the same time to work together, they don’t have the same degree of maturity.
Next step:
It is a quiet hard to build an identity for something new, people imagine many directions from short guidelines: they don’t understand it the same way.
Same things like education, portability are repeated (for unknown reasons)
Some of what we discussed could be steps : like industrials groups
Someone is surprised nobody talked about security of data : if i want to change for another system, it’s with the guarantee that it’s more secured.
Mydata is not driven by security (this is why it didn’t pop up today)
The thing that you stand for VS the thing you do
There are many post it that indicate what we should do (portability could be a way or a goal)
Maybe the portability is the goal or is it the tools ? we have to know which one is it.
=> Let’s think and select one of this three and focus on it
Chose one out of the three collections
10 for open ecosystem
10 for data empowerment
5 for actionable rights
Consent over consensus
26 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM
3 signs :
Thumb up = ok with it
Ok but would like to comment = ___
Object it = gift (not thumb down) productive.(I dont think this the way because…)
Start with “who do we represent”
PART 2: WHO DO WE REPRESENT?
Should MyData organisation have both individual and organisational members, which group would be more important?
The strength of MyData is that it gathers together members from both businesses and civil society, that is original and important! 14 + / 1 gift
The trustworthiness to both sides would rise, if MyData organisation includes both companies and activists. 15+ / 1 _
MyData should have both individual members and organisations as members. 18 +
Organisational members are key for the change, but also individual members should be allowed. 14 / 3 gifts
We should focus more on individual members, since people are ambassadors within their organisations. 4+ / 10 _
There should be a stepwise approach - to start with, only allow only individual people to join MyData organisation, and in the next step think how to enable the industry members to join. 2+
MyData should represent more people than companies, for example in the policy and technology communities MyData could have a strong voice of people. 5+
Comment : Hervé: companies can be very different, it’s a tricky question. Maybe should we make different groups of companies
MyData should only accept individual members - that could push the big orgs to pay for several people like in professional organisation. 2+
Comment Attil : quite interesting: mostly agree on members, but not on which category (individuals or companies) are the most important.
DECLARATION AS MEMBERSHIP CRITERIA?
MyData declaration - in its current or future versions - has been suggested as something that the members of the MyData organisation should subscribe to when they join.
We should write in the rules of MyData organisation, that: "MyData is the organisation that maintains, develops and disseminates the values described in the declaration." 17+
The whole MyData declaration is too much... It will be very hard to get any big organisation to sign a long document like that. 3+
The declaration should separate the “essential” (basic principles that all agree) and “ideal” (goals to work towards even if one can not comply immediately with everything). 18+
It should be possible to point out organisations who have signed the declaration but do not follow. Currently there's no enforcement procedure for the declaration and that is problematic. +13 / 13 ___
We could have different levels of membership: some signing stricter rules (full declaration) and some more relaxed rules (become supporter of the ideology without signing the declaration). +12
DECIDING ABOUT MEMBERS?
Who decides on accepting new members and based on what?
MyData has strong philosophical base, we should not accept everyone as a member. It is necessary to sign the ethical charter (MyData Declaration) in order to join MyData organisation. +17
There should be two-step application procedure to become a member - first sign & apply and in second phase the board of MyData organisation approves the new member. +1 / 15___
Existing members should vote for accepting new members because any strict membership rules are difficult to judge - democratic choice would be better. Also existing members could invite newcomers. +3 / 10 gift
HOW STRICT OR INCLUSIVE ARE WE?
More members the better, we should be inclusive, but at the same time maintain integrity and not accept everybody, where to draw the line?
MyData should be inclusive, organisations should be able to sign the declaration first and then start gradually moving towards “MyData compliance”. +11
For organisational members there should be strong clear principles how they relate to personal data (strict interpretation of declaration), in order to become member of MyData organisation they need to allow full control over the data to their clients. +11
MyData cannot be antagonistic to big business, we cannot exclude GAFAs (Google, Facebook etc.), anyone who signs the declaration can be a part of the community. +12
The discussions about membership should involve not only the people who are close to MyData already, but also those who could (or should in our opinion) join as members in the near future. +9
MyData should go beyond the usual suspects and aim for getting a mixture of memberships: regulatory space, also non-technical people, academia, small and big companies. +19
It is dangerous to let GAFA in, they have so much time and resources to influence, but also dangerous to leave them out, because they are looking for restoring trust with users, and will do this with or without MyData. +14
Activities of MyData organisation should be open for participation and contribution of non-members also. +17
Global Comment :
People & organizations in, but opinions diverses on which one is the more important
Ministry of transport can’t sign the declaration, i’m representing the state of finland so we can’t. Every org. Is different and has diff reasons for which the declaration can”t be signed so seems difficult to evict them.
Tuba présentation by Martin
Presentation of My Data
My Data conference is the core thing
Anecdotes from the history of the conference
Introduction of the facilitators of this year conference
Funds: ⅓ from ticket sales, ⅓ university help and ⅓ from partners and sponsors
2018 edition is the biggest event of this field
Not only in Europe : Japan, USA, Brazil, etc.
Expecting 1000 participants : still an expert conference
50% companies, 20% gov, 10% NGO, 10% hackers, ..
Met in brussels with yogi and fing
From Danmark Aleksander institute
Network money, collecting, to fund
Start by having a workshop in august : what services to have with the right of portability
How was GDPR received in Danmark ?
Lot of fears mostly from the business.
MOOC
Next year what are the goals in Denmark ?
Take inputs from the august event, take mesinfos projects information to support our future projects ;
Have they thought of technologies like cozy cloud in France ?
We’re not yet sure
Wil + Jaap
Personal data management commons
Had a meetup in amsterdam gov and financial sector were here
Small communities
Collaborations towards success: we need a community of services to provide trust.
Build solid foundation, that is now lacking.
PDM (personal data manager) commons will initiate that foundation
Knowledge development and dissemination
-> with our partners
-> on a national and international level (mydata)
-> deliverables, white papers, presentations
Pilots
-> with our partners
-> evaluations
PDM solition, think also about the management but also the trust and legislation framework
Common terminology for common solutions
Create a generate blue botton for each government with basic question. Such as the dataccess thing.
Should have a common storytelling all together
Funded by US federal gov to get all the stuff happening in europe about Identity ecosystem
GPRD, european trust foundation, but also local initiative, authors, institute, etc.
In Summer, find partners who want to contribute to the map
Use the map to collect documents and projects and looking for stable fundings.
A common source of information
Tille
A new report that has been really influential in Finland, and now globally. A connecting tool.
My data alliance facilitating meetings every months : telecom, research people, and public sector.
Running a pilot, somehome these examples in France or Netherlands give data back to individuals as a personal cloud, but in Finland it hasn’t happened = combining different data from different organizations, few companies and public sectors have been collaborating (traffic agency, driving licence deliver mixed with construction work) = companies and public sectors are providing data : new services are emerging
Now companies & organizations are building services, now how can we connect all these services ? public groups and sessions will let us know : what are the principles that we should put in places.
Gov side: follow this progress to see if there’s regulation needs. For now, it seems we don’t.
Ex: Transportation = regulation on transportation in Finland, as a service, incorporating mydata principles in it. Requires our authority to give and port data from system to systems.
Could work at the ue level : Finland is going to be the president next year = could be an opportunity.
Could start working on a roadmap for Europe from now on.
Japan
Recent events: databank is discussed, like a commercial bank that collect the data from individuals, and these entity, they use data on behalf of individuals = right to use data.
Different from the UE. I Japan, no regulation for data portability ! data belongs to company or governments. Data is considered as created by companies
Now japanese gov wants to bring a middle point btw european way and japanese way = how to bring companies to this middle point. It takes time. Japanese people don’t think how their data is control, since they don’t consider it’s not theirs. Have to stop the data to China, such as European has to stop it from going to gafa.
Legislation in Japan = start the next year, but not sure it will be on time: start a POC by NTT data.
If the person is not data littered enough, it’s complicated.
2 ways in japan to get in touch with your data : control by yourself OR trust third party.
DAY 2
Gianfranco
mydata.org/podcast
Launching today a podcast
3 episodes already posted : organized by topics
Long interview 45 minutes
Kaliya Identity Woman Young
Presentation of her research work : the map “The domains of identity”
Identyt profession : a complex field
All people and amost all organization context: it’s everyone, everywhere
New identity master porgram she jsut graduated
To help clarify which program are in which domains and help the all industry to solve these problems
16 domains:
Quantified self, self-sovereign identity (selfdata)
2. You and my identity : for ex Children and elders , delegated relationships
THE 2 domains are in relationship with the 14 other domains
3. Government registration
Where did this originate ? it actually started our modern states : people see themselves as individuals as now on
4. Government transactions
5. Civil society registration
Health care, education, civil society organization (soccer club, religion, etc.) credentials with these institutions
6. Civil society transaction
Being a patient, going to school
7. Commercial registration
Getting a credit card, and paying stuff
8. Surveillance
It happens in each of the previous domains (government, commercial but also civil society tracking people - online or IRL)
Civil society sousveillance : people watching the gov surveillance for example.
12. Employment registration
Registrating your employees,
13. Employment transactions
14. Employment surveillance
2 more:
15. Data Broker iNdustry
Holds information of people in every domains, sells to gov but also commercial industries
16. Black market : all theses database are vulnerable to hacking and attacks from criminal actors but also government actors.
All these domain are sum up here = identitywoman.net/domains-of-identity
Marja Pirttivaara
The future oriented organisation Sitra
Sitra is an independent foresight agency : futurologist researcher, visionary, developer etc.
IHAN (International Human Account Network): Enabling Human Driven Data Economy (resembles to IBAN) = aims at creating an international protocol that five people control over how and what their data is being used for.
3 keys aims
-> establish key principles, rules, guidelines for human driven data exchange platform
-> test, develop and scale plateforme around EU, ensure interoperability through technology POC “ihan approved”
-> branding, develop common roadmap for fair data exchange method. Build a common governance model
What it means for individual ?
-> empowerment
-> knowledge of use of personal data
Trust for fair data usage
New services and new service provides
Benefits for service provider
-> Authorization to use data from other service providers
-> No need to beg data from competitors
-> Freedom to use all data
-> Opportunity to create New services
-> Opportunity to Collaboration with other services providers
POC pilots have started : want to create common EU level rules, as well as solutions for an ecosystem of human oriented exchange of information.
Looking for individual applicants and broad co-operation networks that develop solutions. Start until 31 December 2018
Who can apply ?
-> fund applicant who may operate in the public, private or the third sector
-> if the applicant belongs to a cooperation network, sitra will finance every applicant member of the cooperation network separately
-> if the applicant is a company of engaged in a ecocomic activity, it must be eligible for receiving the funding.
4 stages of the pilot call
-> 1rs phase : applicant fills the application form
-> 2nd phase: sitra arranges a meeting with the applicants selected, where the details of potential funding will be discussed (goals, schedule, resources)
-> 3rd phase : sitra will evaluate which projects will be fund
-> 4rth phase: those selected to continue the process will prepare a specified project plan to serve as a basis for the funding agreement btw sitra and he applicants
Sitra may ask for external experts to help them decide which projects are selected;
Criteria to be selected:
-> Applicants
-> User oriented approach
-> Technical solution
-> Effectiveness
-> Visionar approach
-> Feasibility
-> Repeatability
-> Continuity
-> Transfer on intellectual property
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Highlights & topics from yesterday :
-> EU Finland Pdt
-> Importance of Education
->Mydata event is a big anchor for everyone, maybe could work on localhub like Tedx works with Ted conference (licence agreement to use the name)
-> In Mydatateam: dilemma of pushing things to much in Finland
Workshops :
4 MyData groups/organisations
Url : okf.fi/mydataorg-questions = ppt
Workshop methodology :
Who do we represent ?
How the chosen membership strategy help us to make the change we want to see in the world ? (We do not need to have everybody, it is better to focus on some members). Both individual/companies ? how strict/inclusive are we ? Who decide on accepting new members ? which criteria ?
Why is it important | How to attract them | Numbers of members by the end of the 1rst year | Numbers of members by the end of the 3rd year | |
group1 | ||||
group2 |
½ and hour discussion about it
Then go back in the main room
-> activities discussion in the main room
-> funding discussion in the vault room
-> government discussion in the kiosque 1
For 1 hour
Then go back to our main group for 20”
Then lunch from noon to 1Pm
At 1PM : Spying time
Don’t try to cover everything, but highlight key ideas.
2PM : presentations in the main room
2PM30 Fishbowl (online streaming on Slack)
3PM: closing round
Groupe 2 : (Vault room)
Guillaume, Camille, Kaliya, Xavier, John, Sarah
⇒ Membership of our organisation
Starting point : MyData should have both individual members and organisations as members. 18 +
Organisations : big companies, startups, (gov. Can they?)
Individuals : citizens, customers, researchers
=> possibility to have different levels of membership (not let them in, not out)
=> but what is being a member ? what are the characteristics of a “member”? (is it signing the declaration) What he/she can/cannot do ?
=> If someone can contribute but doesn’t sign the declaration? What is he ? what can he/she do ?
=> Very important to respect the MyData mindset
Groupe 3 : Kiosque 1
-> 1 hour= Filling the membership question
Hubert :
Public and private organization but also individual
Debating about gafa : is it dangerous to have them in and out
To have them in the discussion
Level of membership
-> Declaring you are willing to follow the rules
-> You commit to follow the rules (to be a member)
Why is it important to have membership : you have someone dedicated to follow the rule ; membership = commitment
Not only you say you agree, you have to prove on the long-term
To be able to dismiss members
Yoan :
Should be everyone be represented
GAFA already have good bargaining power, should be a user-centric group
Highlight put on users, their needs, requirements, their benefits (what benefits are necessary)
Companies would be like attending as observers ?
Marja :
Cannot leave gafa away
They don’t want to dominate : too smart to dominate : it’s important for them to know and to adapt to the new requirements to the public.
Self regulation by themselves
Combinaison of memberships
Juraj
Many levels of memberships
Separated categories : different roles, some of them are users, regulators could be part of the members.
Open government partnerships ; GAFA skeptical
GDPR already in place
First group:
We had to zoom in the some aspects but we did not, we zoomed out to get the bigger picture.
We used the business model canvas - putting the building blocks to see how they match.
o n the left side you spend money on the right side hopefully you earn money
On the left side of the diagram: how are you able to deliver the value?
Apply the business model canvas to mydata
Services:
-> Advice some coaching
...
Who to ?
-> individuals
-> organizations
-> society at large (not paying)
How to deliver these services ?
-> numbers of resources is huge : mydata declaration is a ressources
→ the brand of MyData
→ the network
Numbers of partners (key partners)
-> long term sponsoring
-> key partners
Some calculations based on estimations :
-> 1rst year 200k
-> 2,5 million on the year 3
Second group: Kaliya :
Core themes for the future
-> Communication
-> both to inter communities : companies, people, etc.
-> external : awareness, etc.
Blogs, videos, podcast, live recording
Weaving connections to lead to action
-> in big companies and between companies (commercial partners and collaborators to have an ecosystem)
-> empowerment of people : users group
Created an event cycle :
Helsinki Summer 2018
Local one day hub event next Winter
First World event Summer 2019 : national event on 2020
National Regional : Events Summer 2012
Local hub events winter 2022
Every two years you have a world event, and National event each year and in the middle you have local hub.
Third group : Gianfranco
2028 : come back from the future.
Mydatafoundation : we are not needed anymore = became mainstream culture.
Portability, interoperability done.
First year : focus on communication, external communication, by the declaration, funding, project with specific objectives.
Around the 3rd year, had to split to different continent : Asia, and Africa, America hubs, general and local hub events each year = works well.
Million people being trained by us, individuals but also companies
Started publishing the My Data Journal, collecting business viable cases on the 3rd year was launched.
Community : no need to formulize the structure, decentralized, people were strictly faithful to the ideology, we didn’t need hierarchy.
Never give up. We need to keep the pressure on.
4th group:
- Hello is this personal data speaking?
- Yes it’s lucy from mydata
I’m doing a master thesis on personal data can you help me?
- We are you coming from ? we can connect you to the local hub, present you to some people
Student: can be a nice contrbutor to the community : time is money, we also have currated many sources and documents. COmmunity member : much more data.
- we propose to our members some more elaborated ressources
- basic membership for 50e (We have a basic membership , but if university is member as well, you can get it for free, (if not, create a coalition of students)
- I will send you the link and give you the program of your local hub
- Hello it’s Lucy from Mydata
- Guttentag, I’m Klaus from loyalty europe small company doing user centric programm, use personal data : how can you help me ?
- i’m very glad you contacted us, you seem to be well aware about privacy
- We have good lawyer, but it’s more about sharing good practices data and user centric solution
- you can become a member of our community, you can share practices, we can connect you with other companies to see how to start your loyalty program etc
- Wow ! We are starting more or less, hundred people working for us. Some doing research What would it cost ?
- we have diff packages, we start for startup at 1000e per yer you get access to the info on events, Counselling, mentoring.
- I need counseling ! who should i call ?
- I will give you all the context for your local hub : SMI community , it’s a global network, so if you have a speciti cprb get in touch with anyone
- I need some counseling about data storage program, security.. In don’t want to get to the details of encryption.
- We can introduce you to companies like Cozy cloud and companies can help you about it : if you like the technology, if you are member you can have a discount
- I want to become a member but I don’t like the legal stuff my lawyer tells me to not sign declarations etc
- we can give you a temporary membership, you don’t need to sign, but if you want to be a full member and to vote, you ll have to familiaring and not be afraid to accept these
- Can i sponsor , can i get more commercial influence ? what about getting more customers ?
- Yes, you will get boost, thanks to the declaration, customers will adopt you because they will gain trust you will be mydata approved
- SOunds good for a 1000e!
- Well it’s just the starting point, we have different packages and we hope you status will evolves in time!
Jogi wrap up: fishball method
5 chairs here : on chair empty, live discussion about everything we have seen : set up a minimum viable organization to the next step
Can we set up mydata organization ?
How strong is the urgency ? how many money is left ? it’s been 3 years already when are we starting for real ?
Minimum viable | Next level | |
members | Do we need membership by itself ? or just for funding? Membership not for the money but more the symbol that we are european/international. Low price is ok. Who are members ? what are the characteristics ? (only signing the declaration ? or paying?) maybe different levels of members What bring individuals to be member ? (good feeling and low price) Why should one pay if we have the document open to all ? | Mydata alliance : companies say they can’t do it on their own, need collaboration |
actions | Need action to get people to sign : events is not enough to get people pay fees. What else should we have ? 50€ for being a member Events are not enough to make you wanna join the membership: it’s not the priority. Connecting people, collecting knowledge : people would be willing to pay.
Core actions : Connecting and empowering and communicating - Event cycle: very concrete. If we commit to it for upcoming years that could be the seed. - Creating organized common resources Ex: links to list of people in the field and facilitation to connect Ex: list of authors and references Ex : List of great use cases, of benchmarks of Pims etc. Ex: get the newsletters with news on the world on MyData (not just personal data, there are plenty of tools to monitor what’s going on personal data, but really MyData …) Are we pro something or against something ? if we accept gafa, we have to be strong enough to keep our stance. | Other possible actions: - Commercial aspect = Ex: promese to respond together to european projects? To do what? Build a POC? Ex:mentoring/counseling to support positive initiatives? Seminars in the paying organizations? - Lobbying Ex: Influencing european union (writing GDPR V2 ;)?) Ex: Class Action Answers to EU call: prepared a sort of counseling that can deliver the kind of work EU may ask us NB from Antti: =/ our role is not to do that, it is to facilitate Non for profit trust VS Full profit activity are segregated but part of the principles in a commercial way = in order to avoid conflicting interest -> two separate entities NB from Antti : reject that idea : we need to be the one who is facilitate and boost things. |
funding | Public financers don’t want to give money forever: think about the exit Bringing ten companies at least (10 companies with a name) can applied for projects that are co-funded 200K to launch the first step: launch it quickly : have a brief for users and partners about what they gain ? raise some cash and see if we get it | |
governance | Urgent Help dev hubs vs We don’t need to establish a global entity to help local hubs One director of the board half time and paying members (look at Kantara initiative) Building the longer term strategy and benchmarking others organizations. |
Wrap up / memorandum
When do we think there can be the first meeting of the concrete MYDATA organization?
⇒ At Helsinki in August people (individuals at least) should be able to join the MyData Organization. But not a meeting for election
⇒ In half a year after the Helsinki meeting we could have the first meeting a members for election of board.
What can be the first activities/next steps?
-> make a foundation with a board : end of summer : let’s make it legal
-> make a wishlist of 10 companies and 100 members we want on board
-> Fees : 50€ for member and 200€ for companies (no domination of any company) public sector, academia and individuals also.
Values for fees:
Who can devote 10 hours from now to the conference to built it?
People writing their name
What do we need? 4 document to draft
Why would people join MyData? Budget and actions plan
Hubert + Marja + Jacob + Kaliya + Salla + Sarah + Emma
A board and then election in 6 months for example.
+ The baseline for the MyData organisation.
⇒ todo: use the 3 key points of the value and make them into a baseline.
⇒ todo: survey: Make a digital format (google doc) to sent it to people who weren’t there. What do they think about the statement ?
⇒ we need to choose a country: FINLAND is the choice.
⇒ WHO CAN WORK ON THAT? We need someone from FInland in that group. 3 people are needed: Antti + Fabien + Xavier
Kaliya, Manon, Will , ….
NB: Budget should at least cover the cost of one full time employee to help coordinate all.
=> We need board members! Who’s in? We need the shadow board before first elections, (Rule of association: funding members approve board // You run the first association meeting and select/elect first shadow board)
Decide on a start line :
All groups should decide : when are we meeting, how we communicate and name a chairperson
Next week , Antti starts an email
3 points of the Lyon memorandum :
-> Yes we will built the mydata organization as an NGO and you will be able to join in Helsinki, it will be set in Finland.
-> we need a business plan (budget and activities for the first year), a shadow board (for association first meeting), bylaws and membership strategy
-> Name of the group with people in that group, the chairperson for that group and the date of each meeting:
First meeting: Friday 29th of June, 4pm CET
Chairperson: Kaliya (and then rotation)
Emails: dagmar.bosanska@futuristiq.org / marlies.rikken@innovator.nl / kaliya@identitywoman.net / mmolins@fing.org / wil.janssen@innovator.nl / celine@cozycloud.cc