Coin Concede - Episode 423 TBD

Edelweiss* WickedGood* Magesa* Guest*

Intro (~10 min)

Welcome to Episode 423 of Coin Concede, a Hearthstone podcast dedicated to making the competitive side of the game more accessible to you.

It is Thursday, November 30th, 2023 in the evening!

Coming to you from Gnomeregan, Ohio, it's me, Edelweiss!

From Northrend, Massachusetts, we have WickedGood!

From Teldrassil, California we have Magesa!

And from all around the world we have you, dear listeners.

Thanks for reviews

How's life and ladder? -

Edelweiss -

Wickedgood - Reno Shaman, lost to the stupidest Tony deck ever, finished Trails of Cold Steel

Magesa - T-day fun, lots of explaining HS and streaming. Lots of paladin but also enrage warrior (PSA kill the gold panner), reno shaman, rainbow mage, and naga dh coachings. Saw a snake warlock and hero power druid. I was extremely frustrated with the climb until I remembered that actually this wasn’t longer than usual to legend, especially for a new expansion; I just started 2 weeks late!

News Highlights -  

• 28.0.3 - https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24033781/28-0-3-patch-notes

• Standard

• Blindeye Sharpshooter (⅕->⅓)
• Order in the Court (Draw 1 -> Draw 0)
• ABJ (1 mana -> 2 mana)
• Defense Attorney Nathanos (Gain deathrattle before triggering)

• https://twitter.com/myntyphresh/status/1729551126121357710 

• Azerite Snake (Drain 10 -> Drain 7)

• Battlegrounds changes
• Bug fixes

• [Hearthstone] The Tram Cars summoned by Trolley Problem and Tram Conductor Gerry are no longer Mechs (they don’t have a CPU).
• [Hearthstone] Added the Fel Spell School to Fan the Hammer.

• Patch 28.2, with Battlegrounds Season 6, Spellslinger’s Saloon, is live Tuesday Dec 5: https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24008696/announcing-battlegrounds-season-6

• The new mechanic in Season 6 is Spells!

• Tavern Spells, unlike blood gems and other existing spells, can be purchased directly from the tavern. Like minions, they have tavern tiers, but unlike minions, they have variable costs, which are visible on their unique frame. Each tavern refresh will include a spell of your tier or lower in addition to the normal minion offerings. Like existing spells, Tavern Spells can’t be tripled and are spent once played.
• There will be 42 spells released in the patch across all 6 tavern tiers. Examples from the announcement blog:

Some of the other new spells revealed today by Shadybunny:

• Minion buffs: A big banana from Mukla! (tier 1, 1 gold, +2/+2 to minion), or give +4 attack, or give +3 health and taunt.
• Gold manipulation:

• Tavern Coin: (tier 1, 1 gold, gain 1 gold), Careful investment (tier 2, 1 gold, gain 2 gold next turn), Hasty Excavation (tier 2, gain 1 gold at cost of 3 health); help smooth out curves
• Overconfidence (tier 2, 1 gold, if you win your next combat get 3 gold otherwise 1 gold)
• Strike Oil: Tier 2, 3 gold, increase your max gold by 1.

• There will also be 3 new heroes and 32 new minions, many synergizing with spells.

• The three new heroes are:

• Doctor Hollidae (1 gold, get a random tavern spell)
• Snake Eyes (1 gold, roll a 6 sided die to gain that much gold. Can’t be used again for that many turns)
• Tae’thelan Bloodwatcher (Passive, every third tavern spell you buy costs 0)

• Minions that get buffs based on spells; Worgen Vigilante
• Undead minions will be able to destroy minions during the recruit phase to gain power, like a tier 4 that gives you 3 gold (or 6).

• Reveals of the new spells and minions by creators have begun and are ongoing through Monday 12/4, when the full notes and an overview video will be posted. See the announcement blog and/or @PlayHearthstone for details.
• There will also be a streamer preview event on Monday the 4th, the day before the season goes live.

• The North American, European, and Latin American lobbies are 9am-3pm Pacific, while the Korean and Japanese lobbies are 1am - 7am Pacific.
• Participating streamers will stream to their own channels and have season pass giveaways for viewers, so watch there!
• See the announcement blog for details on who the creators are and links to their channels.

• What does this patch mean for Standard?

• There are more balance changes coming very soon in Standard to set up for the World Championships, but they will not be in the BG patch. They will be in another one very shortly after (“late next week,” so probably Thursday 12/7 or maybe Friday 12/8).

• However there will be bug fixes on Tuesday, including fixing Xymox crashing the game and requiring a restart when played (source: Hat)

• Winterveil Holiday event will be 3 weeks: Dec 12 - Jan 2

• Twist Winter Break Update - https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/hearthstone/t/twist-winter-break-update/116464

• Hearthstone 10th Anniversary crossover with WoW? https://www.wowhead.com/news/hearthstone-promotion-datamining-clues-in-patch-10-2-5-mount-pets-bag-cosmetic-336207

• Worst card ever poll (Vote Lakkari Sacrifice!) - https://twitter.com/Stinzy_/status/1729243019625332886

Worst card of all time - Challonge

Tournaments

• Reminder that World Championships are 12/16 - 12/17
• Battle of the Discords is on December 2nd and 3rd.

You compete individually but choose to represent either Coin Concede, Vicious Syndicate, THL, or Tierras de Fuego.

Format is Standard, Conquest, open decklists, swiss day 1 and top 16 single elimination day 2. There are prizes of a pre order or packs for top 4.

Players of all levels are encouraged to participate, and there’s a server reward for the winning server also! Come represent CC!

You can register up until Dec 2 at battlefy, see the show notes: https://battlefy.com/teamhearthleaguecom/battle-of-the-discords-showdown-in-the-badlands/653e9d91e73f05464d894a51/info?infoTab=details 

Decksplanations

POST SHOW NOTE: WiRer posted an updated list:

https://twitter.com/wiRerHS/status/1730689103325184109

Reno Shaman

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https://hsreplay.net/decks/plErEACpacWQu9izXw0l3e/#rankRange=DIAMOND_THROUGH_LEGEND

• General gameplay

• Elevator pitch of this deck and why we enjoy it!

• Remember Moist Shaman? This is that but with Reno! (And frogs! 🐸)

• Macro gameplay (aka How does this thing actually win games?)

• This is the most archetypical midrange deck we’ve had in a while
• Your gameplan depends a lot on both your matchup and what cards you have to work with
• You can tempo slower decks out of the game (I’ve won several games on turn 7)

• Some details on how to do that (including when to ignore max value!)
• Any notes about specific control matchups

• Against more aggressive decks you have a bunch of reasonable control tools

• General control advice would be good here about how to anticipate what you’ll need for your opponents’ plays
• Any notes about specific aggressive matchups

• You can discover your way out of jams (or just praise Yogg and let him bail you out)

• Notes on things you want to discover in different matchups

• Burn (Lightning Bolt, Crash of Thunder, Turn the Tides, Scalding Geyser, Jive Insect, Overdraft)
• Healing (Amphibious Elixir, Altered Chord, Dehydrate, Chill Vibes)
• Single target removal (Hex, Altered Chord, Dehydrate, Command of Neptulon, Schooling)
• AoE (Lightning Storm, Giant Tumbleweed, Primordial Wave, Jam Session)
• General value/draw (Ancestral Knowledge, Azsharan Scroll, Far Sight, Cold Storage, Prescience, etc)

• Pay attention to overload!        

• Before you play an overload card, you want to consider what you want to do next turn and if the overload will leave you with enough mana
• Sometimes you’ll want to use a bunch of overload cards on a turn where you don’t have a great play upcoming

• Mulligans

• Always

• Doctor Holli’dae, Schooling, Shock Hopper

• Vs aggro

• Lightning Storm, Primordial Wave, Jam Session

• Vs control

• Anything that looks like tempo, Framester if you suspect Reno

• Vs Combo

• Framester, Trapdoor Spider

• The mirror

• Framester

• Individual card notes

• Any cards whose use might be counterintuitive?

• Framester

• Disrupts Naga DH draw
• Shuts down Reno
• Is just a good tempo minion

• Jam Session

• Very good against Paladin, because the 1 damage AoE is relevant

• Glacial Shard

• Can freeze face (Naga DH, Enrage Warrior)

• How do you use tech cards in other matchups?

• For tempo

• Possible Card Changes

• Another Framester in ETC?

Outro (~5min) - Thanks and contact!

We have many folks we'd like to thank - check out our THANKS! section on the website at www.coinconcede.com, where you can also find our contact info, our show notes, and our Patreon information!

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BIG THANKS to our producers nmbrthry, Kresh, Beefsquatch, David P,  Waalou, Jeremy T, bottlecaps, GrumpyMonk, TheBurgerClub, KercReagan, 4given1, ChrizzleyBear, and TheGrandArcanum!!!

Coin Concedes (Shout Outs):

RAIDS -

SUBS -

Edelweiss - Clark, Celestalon, My mother

WickedGood -

Magesa - Minmon top 200 and drum druid guide, Doctor3

Keep Calm and…

And if you see us on ladder… 

“Coin Concede” WickedGood

“Coin Concede” Edelweiss

“Coin Concede” Magesa