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ADC-IARPC Semantics WG 2019-08-20

ADC-IARPC Vocabularies and Semantics Working Group

Meeting Agenda & Minutes


2019-08-20 17:00 UTC (11:00 AM MDT and 19:00 CEST)


Øystein Godøy is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

Topic: Polar Semantics WG Monthly Meeting

Time: Aug 20, 2019 07:00 PM Oslo

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  1. Round table (who is attending)
  1. Ruth Duerr, Paul Thompson, Mark Schildhauer, Øystein Godøy, Allison Gaylord, Siri Jodha Singh Khalsa, Bill Manley
  1. Adoption of agenda
  1. Adopted
  1. Review of minutes of previous meeting
  1. 2019-06-18
  1. Need approval from Pier Luigi on some of the open issues.
  1. Action: Øystein will ask Pier Luigi
  1. Once accepted by Pier Luigi, minutes can be published.
  1. Pier Luigi modified and accepted minutes within the evening.
  1. Review of action items
  1. Ruth action item once Pip is done with matrix to assess to see what info can gleaned - provide to Peter/Øystein when complete
  1. Ruth has a presentation with a bit of a summary of the matrix 
  2. Bill also had a presentation at that IARPC meeting; direct link to PDF.
  3. Ruth has been on vacation or on travel since the last meeting, so hasn’t completed the work and won’t be able to until next month.
  1. Peter/Øystein to review results of the previous step and add anything from their work.
  1. Still pending.
  1. Peter to talk to  Peter Fox re students to do this (modelling/visualisation the matrix from 4b) work
  1. Preliminary discussions, but nothing concrete yet.
  2. Still pending, but part of broader discussion and related to a proposal in preparation.
  3. Update
  1. Mark hasn’t students to help. Still pending.
  2. Brendan Billingsley may be funded to help with this.
  1. Mark to contact US LTER Info Mgrs about the Polar terms questionnaire
  1. Email requesting input sent to all US LTER Info Mgrs on 2/19.
  2. direct discussion with Info Mgrs from Toolik (LTER ARC) and Beaufort Lagoon
  3. use of WorMS, ITIS for taxonomy, and USA LTER Control Vocab; nothing Arctic specific or strongly cryospheric
  4. Update
  1. Concluded, closing.
  1. Øystein will inform WMO and ask for contributions
  1. Done, but no feedback received so far. Probably due to ongoing time consuming preparations for congress for both WIS and WIGOS.
  1. Ruth/Øystein to look at the vocabulary repositories for ANDS (Australia National Data Service) RVA
  1. Ruth has looked at this. Keeping this open.
  2. Update
  1. Ruth is done - Doesn’t have all the capabilities she needed but she submitted tickets re those capabilities.  Might be worth looking at if they are fixing them.
  1. Øystein to push review of the TPDF semantic training and guided hackathon information material. Should be reviewed by slack announcements and full draft available early June for posting in TPDF website (can be amended later).
  1. The information material was updated.
  2. Keeping task open until the material is agreed.
  3. Update
  1. Comments by Siri Jodha should be mostly accepted.
  1. Pier Luigi to keep this group informed on the discussions with PANGAEA on MOSAIC vocabularies.
  1. New task in last meeting.
  2. Keeping this open.
  3. Pier Luigi informed the group that he will be meeting with MOSAiC data team on August 27th. The meeting agenda is here:
  2. He has already had two meetings with PANGAEA staff to warm up the issue and there is general acknowledgement of the need for improved interoperability
  1. Siri Jodha mentioned that YOPP and MOSAiC are coordinating on data policy and procedures, including semantics. He will check whether the MOSAiC draft data policy document can be shared.
  1. Shannon and Paul to check the information material on the training session on semantics for the Third Polar Data Forum.
  1. New task in last meeting.
  2. Update
  1. Closing this.
  1. Shannon to follow up on the Polar Semantic Questionnaire with the Polar Libraries Colloquy.
  1. New task in last meeting.
  2. Keeping this open as Shannon was not available.
  1. TPDF sessions discussion.
  1. New task in this meeting.
  2. Øystein to inform Peter on this discussion and how semantics crosses the federated search boundary with
  3. Everybody to review the session description again. Last chance for changes before it is published on the TPDF website.
  1. Polar Vocabularies Questionnaire.
  1. New task in this meeting.
  2. Ruth to glean from matrix any semantic info and add to questionnaire
  1. Third Polar Data Forum (TPDF)
  1. Discussion of one pager on semantics.
  1. Peter mentioned that material should be posted within the end of this week. Need a paragraph to introduce the session.
  2. Ruth volunteered to write the paragraph by Thursday preferably for use on the TPDF website.
  3. On the Federated Search using, EarthCube: is the outgrowth of P418/P419.  Geocodes “gleans” information from a defined set of repositories using markup on landing pages.  The code is open source and available for reuse on whatever set of repositories desired.
  1. Questions from Siri Jodha:
  1. What has been the uptake in the Polar community of the re doing markup?  
  1. Ruth answer: it was a recommendation from the Architecture workshop
  1. Should they be directed to geocodes? or where?
  1. Ruth answer: The code (in progress) is publicly available at
  1. Shouldn’t there be a “Polar Data” element in the markup for a Polar targeted aggregator? The current state of markup for the geosciences is available at:  However, there are many extensions to be discussed in both the new cluster in ESIP (join email list at and the proposed Working Group in RDA.  I note that these are very new venues - the RDA working group hasn’t been approved yet and the ESIP cluster is just now trying to find a time for their first teleconference.  As noted there is already a wizard to create JSON-LD markup for your data sets available at
  1. Further discussions on TPDF
  1. Our next step should be to work on a more detailed agenda and the logistics aspects of the hackathon.
  2. Should discuss items across federated search and semantics and agree on how to approach these. To be raised through TPDF organising committee.
  3. Ruth will submit 2 abstracts - one on the EarthCube GeoCodes, etc. work described above and the other on the semantic harmonization work currently ongoing (currently working on harmonizing SWEET and ENVO).
  4. Siri Jodha will probably submit an abstract on YOPP SiteMIP
  5. Mark possibly submit from US NSF’s Arctic Data Center and DataONE on semantic measurement search.
  6. Action
  1. Øystein to inform Peter on this discussion and how semantics crosses the federated search boundary with
  2. Everybody to review the session description again. Last chance for changes before it is published on the TPDF website.
  1. Status of responses to the Polar Vocabularies questionnaire
  1. Survey is available here:
  1. Results are here
  1. No new entries
  2. Ruth to glean from matrix any semantic info and add to questionnaire
  3. Potential input could also be provided by the community Shannon is contacting.
  1. Awareness updates (roundtable)
  1. Pier Luigi updated on the awareness update from the last meeting on the UNESCO meeting for ODIS in August, as a prelude to soon-to-be initiated tasks for an international working group on data science for the UNESCO Decade of Ocean Science for Sustainable Development (the “Decade”).
  1. He informed that this was completed and the need to factor in Earth Science semantics into the data system was acknowledged and is in the resulting text.
  1. Next meeting
  1. Agreed to do the third Tuesday of the month, at 1700 UTC.
  2. Next meeting will be September 17, at 11 am MDT = 1700 UTC = 19:00 CEST.
  1. Siri Jodha and Øystein may both be in transit and not available. Ruth will anyway lead the meeting.
  2. Same issues should be on the agenda, potentially looking into practical aspects (including agenda) of the TPDF hackathon agenda.
  1. Since not everyone is using Slack, emails should be circulated for each meeting.