Versus Wolves 005: Brazilian jiu-jitsu vs Policenauts Extended Timestamps
0:00:00 Another Versus Wolves is here. Eyepatch Wolf entering concerned parent mode.
0:00:46 Some more RRR. Or as some say, OrOrOr.
- 0:01:54 Read this sentence, Eyepatch wolf.
- 0:03:00 everyone is saying RRR wrong
- 0:03:33 Finally Eyepatch Wolf gets to his story. Talking to an Indian taxi driver about movies. Seeing Monkey man and Bramayugam.
- - 0:05:00 mentions seeing RRR. One of the actors was in his taxi the other day. Turns out there’s a version of this story where eyepatch wolf isn’t on the podcast anymore
- - 0:06:13 the special ability to meet celebrities. Getting that woman’s autograph…. While the car is in the busiest part of dublin. With both hands off the wheel.
- - 0:08:29 eyepatch Wolf falls back on his content creator instincts and pulls out his phone to make a video.
- - 0:09:21 The fault lies with you, woolie. Woolie’s response: show up to a fighting game tourney on time next time then
- - 0:11:30 moments where you just have to stop being respectful. Woolie recalls getting an Uber ride where a guy was half asleep
- - 0:13:21 eyepatch wolf had a similar type of experience. And there’s a ‘sleepy’ button on the app.
INTRO
0:14:37 Versus Wolves Intro
0:15:07 so the patreon happened. Thanks everyone for joining! Remember to check out the intermission lounge for that Saga discussion! And now there’s one for Inscryption.
- 0:17:50 they didn't get to questions but they’ll get to it at some point. Still figuring out the podcast.
- 0:18:47 the discord is popping off. You do not need to know the spider queen. Nor is it a cult
- 0:19:35 remember to subscribe!
THE ECLIPSE
0:20:20 So, how about that eclipse? Woolie seeing partial eclipses before.
- 0:21:52 punch mom saying to go check it out. The last one was in the 1930s.
- 0:23:04 driving out down to a farm. Going out to get 2 minutes of eclipse. Going from not really caring to ‘damn this is cool.’ The world seems to change.
- 0:26:42 eclipse chasers
- 0:27:30 the battle of the eclipse. The gods are mad.
- 0:29:11 talking to people that were disinterested. Just like the irish pop band westlife
- 0:30:05 finding the best shots to take photos of the eclipse. Like above a waffle house
VIDEO ESSAYS
0:30:31 Eyepatch wolf wasn't even aware the eclipse was even happening until a bit before it because he was in video edit mode. Woolie after the guilty gear lore series and the secret history of reboot
- 0:33:08 the amount of yourself being put in one moment. Working on a video for 6 months
- 0:33:59 the process of making a longform video. Constant interactions of all stages of development. The video in question being the bizarre world of fake video games
- 0:35:15 the exhaustion that hits after and the imposter syndrome. Eyepatch wolf: maybe I'm not meant to make youtube videos
- 0:36:49 learning to walk away and come back to a piece of art with fresh eyes.
- 0:38:54 Eyepatch wolf going off to make another video and coming back to it later. Getting a lot of positive feedback from it, but not really feeling it.
- 0:40:20 The brain not treating positive and negative feedback similarly. Remembering the first SF2 champion only feeling relief on winning and feeling abysmal on losing
- 0:42:16 the joy eyepatch wolf has making videos. Loving the process. Araki: do not dwell on past successes and failures
- 0:45:44 Good art is a byproduct of a good process. A book by the name of unreasonable hospitality.
0:47:21 time for GENIUS KOJUMBO. Straddling the line between hack and genius.
- 0:48:51 Eyepatch Wolf has beaten policenauts. What he knew before going in: very little.
- 0:49:35 the best reference point: that part from MGS1 about japanese anime… and it cutting to policenauts footage
- 0:50:15 There's a lot of tiddies here.
- 0:51:29 taking a look at the old metal gear games. Reusing set pieces and characters.
- 0:52:27 Eyepatch wolf hasn't talked much about metal gear despite being a metal gear fan. Kojima’s extremely distinct style
- 0:53:26 Policenauts has a lot of what eyepatch wolf loves about kojima in it and a lot of what frustrates him about kojima in it. Playing the slowbeef translation. And a port of the sega saturn version that exists.
- - 0:54:33 ever seen the PC-98 version? Pixel art vs. 3D, and designing for CRT, FF7 on a CRT, the twitter account CRT pixels
- - 0:57:34 on the look of policenauts, comparing looks
- - 0:58:50 trying to get the PC-98/sega saturn version working, thorhighheels on the PC-98
- 1:00:35 policenauts as a game: the best of times, the blurst of times. Going over the start of the game. Telling you everything you need to know about the protagonist. A man out of time.
- -1:02::51 so, that moment with that astronaut… we’ll talk about that later.
- 1:03:47 getting visited by his ex-wife. Her current husband has gone missing. A reminder Kojima loves Film. “Kojima, that’s JUST die hard.”
- 1:06:10 drinking in the atmosphere. Also did you know plagiarism is wrong? But… cant you just put the metal gear theme in mgs4…? Just a little? Kojima learning about it on a radio show.
- - 1:09:50 the phantom pain of the songs we lost. But hey, old snake’s theme really good.
- 1:11:20 getting immediately pulled into the plot. A mix of VN and light gun game. On how to really sell the light gun. The difference between wild arms and wild guns. Switching examples to virtua cop.
- - 1:15:47 Did you figure out the trick to the combat? R1 and L1. and Did you know wild guns came out in the same year as policenauts? The year after a link to the past, 1994.
- 1:17:42 the alleyway and the beginnings of eyepatch wolf’s problems with the game. Pixel hunting. Eyepatch wolf recalls day of the tentacle. Not using a guide. Using every dialogue option at least twice.
- 1:21:25 using save states to get past parts. Feeling more forgiving given when it came out and this being one of his earliest games. Wanting to check out Snatcher after.
- 1:24:21 getting on a rocketship to the beyond. Look at this evil man. He’s a perfectly nice guy.
- - 1:25:34 remember the flight attendant? Look at these sci fi mumbo kojumbo bein’ spouted here by this sexy flight attendant!
- - 1:29:23 eyepatch wolf looking for a house. And his wife seeing a shot of policenauts about eating anything off that ass.
- - 1:31:15 there's a lot of fun shots here. Like your friend’s daughter’s ass.
- - 1:33:01 a sci-fi with a lot of deep themes served with a side of fanservice. Woolie mentioning playing Nikke.
- - 1:34:38 Kojima never made another problematic babe ever after this. NEVER. Quiet has to stretch because she’s a sniper, right?
- 1:36:00 points where he’s into the game, points where he’s struggling. The scene of visiting your old partner.
- - 1:37:55 Meeting that totally evil man again. Him turning into the biggest asshole ever. Meeting the chief.
- 1:40:45 so, REAL SPOILERS from here on out.This game being more a museum piece than anything. Skip to 2:07:50 to get beyond spoilers
- 1:42:02 Getting to the astronaut. The bomb disposal scene.
- - 1:43:19 the astronaut. Effective horror and kojima’s talent for it.
- 1:45:29 getting to the second half of the game where things really pick up. The level of escalation and how evil can an organization get?
- - 1:47:58 the rebirthers. A new James Dean film… using AI for him since he’s dead and it’s sanctioned by his estate.
- 1:51:46 the level of detail on the medical issues of space. And the kojima codec call moments.
- 1:53:09 the skyscraper assault. Everyone has got to go. Become an 80s action hero. The final showdown. YOU DIDN'T WIN!
- 1:56:23 the last minute reveals.
- 1:57:12 time to fight god.
- - 1:59:04 the sickest followup. So, you’ll be donating?
- 2:00:18 bits that eyepatch wolf will hold fondly. Just sitting in the car looking content. Powerful little moments.
- 2:01:24 there is a theoretically stronger version of this game. Citizen sleeper, and the idea of a game that mixes that and policenauts. Or it and disco elysium.
- 2:05:27 so, we never talked about Karen, huh?
- 2:07:49 Let's go back to Monkey man, and how it couldn't escape the shadow of john wick. He feels similar about this game to Metal Gear. The moments where it did its own thing are great though.
2:08:25 So, where does it sit on the pantheon on greatness?
- 2:10:56 the fun in recommending the wild picks.
2:11:49 the realest of real life activities. Woolie, sadly, did not go to Brazil for it. A reminder it was a challenge to roll with a purple belt or higher that was trying to tap him out.
- 2:14:11 that guy from the last tourney. Woolie did not combo break on purpose to let this happen. Getting back in touch with command grab james at 10th planet jiu-jitsu
- 2:16:31 getting an item list for this, and the difference between gi and no gi.
- 2:18:13 checking out the credentials. And the sign of a true master: cauliflower ears.
- 2:19:43 walking in, going right into the deep end.
- - 2:20:52 the optifast era. Also you can't buy optifast, so it's not shilling. Keeping up the cardio, but not nearly enough
- - 2:21:47 rolling expends a lot of energy. Conditioning and pacing is important.
- - 2:23:27 in boxing, keeping your gaurd is the hardest. getting tired in localized places. In comparison, everything in jiu-jitsu is maxing out everything
- 2:25:04 Learning the ashi garami and the knee shield. Woolie having done wrestling in high school
- 2:27:20 brazilian jiu-jitsu’s victory conditions. Nap, snap, or tap.
- 2:28:16 watching what it’s like at the highest levels. Using fighting game terms for what is good to use.
- 2:29:45 getting a photo with everyone.
- 2:30:56 the rabbit vs. the tiger, the difference of experience. The equivalent of being in the corner.
- 2:33:20 passing guard. Eyepatch wolf not really caring much for points, going only for submissions. The question being how to get into position to tap someone out, not how to tap someone out
- 2:34:43 moves having startup frames you need to recognize
- 2:35:26 Everyone was really chill. Comparing to eyepatch wolf’s experience with taekwondo. Just listening to the music and vibing.
- - 2:38:12 Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is probably pretty close to what you’d expect in a street fight. Don't get into a street fight.
- - 2:39:53 a practical style with a more relaxed, practical mentality. Eyepatch wolf and wing chun
- - 2:42:00 a reminder on the origin of wing chun
- 2:42:50 Only lasting about 20 seconds. And 10 years ago woolie shit talked hunter x hunter on a podcast and now he’s here.
- - 2:44:23 how he got tapped. And sadly the footage did not get recorded getting king combo’d into the floor.
- - 2:46:10 you never want to be in a choke. It is horrible.
- - 2:47:08 experiencing an ankle lock. Tanking through stuff is insane. Eyepatch wolf and the kimura.
- - 2:49:24 get in any triangles? And Getting into positions you personally feel comfortable in. Eyepatch wolf remembers a genius he fought in his class.
- 2:52:00 Getting one video. Going for ROUND 2.
- - 2:56:06 learning some real combo sequences.
- - 2:58:20 getting some footage with someone of a higher level one more time
- - 3:01:26 We all knew where this was going to go. Command grab james asks for 3 months to train woolie to challenge eyepatch wolf.
- - 3:02:27 A lot of respect for woolie for going through this. And props to James for matching Woolie's pace to give him a chance.
- 3:05:42 the stipulation was met. Needing to feel the pressure.
- - 3:07:25 Eyepatch Wolf tells the ricardo story
- - 3:10:42 woolie learning one move and trying to go for it. Failing a move 100 times before you can get it right.
- 3:13:08 the thing that kept Eyepatch wolf coming back to jiu-Jitsu. Leaving everything in that room. Woolie doing that with Boxing.
- - 3:15:48 reach heaven through violence.
- 3:17:02 eyepatch wolf cannot live without it in his life. And hopefully command grab james can come around some time! Maybe playing petanque
- 3:18:32 Reggie wasn’t feelin it. And not making a spectacle of himself and trying to be lowkey. Photos are taken frequently.
- 3:20:28 Boxing for woolie and comparing it to BJJ. Feeling less the sport, more the warzone
3:23:42 So, where’s it rank on the pantheon of Greatness? Skipping straight up past policenauts and questioning if it’s better than darkest dungeon.
- 3:25:19 how about vinland saga?
- 3:27:14 a screenshot that sums up the experience for woolie
NEXT EPISODE RECOMMENDATIONS
3:28:40 so let's just get there. Going way over time.
3:29:43 Woolie’s recommendation: Cybersix, the canadian-japanese-argentinian animated series.
3:32:30 Eyepatch Wolf’s pick- but first, let’s thank the patrons. Because with money involved, you HAVE to do it. You know what’s coming. It's time for more HUNTER X HUNTER.
3:35:20 you can see Woolie's soul leaving his body.
3:35:22 End of podcast