Tim
Yay is an analog issue. Hell yeah yeah, those are my Fa because then you don't have to deal with computer [blaster]. You just like oh I'd have to turn the thing off and on again or like a plug in the cable. That's it.
Scott
She.
Stuart
And a log issue.
Stuart
Oh right? right? right.
Scott
Are.
Kyle
I have was that christ you one my soon as you sort talking in my bevers like I I did fix the issue I did I I fixed it see.
Tim
Is it? Yeah or that yeah analog issues. Yay.
Stuart
Um, okay now Scott's me right.
Scott
Ah.
Kyle
Where were we.
Stuart
Ah, so we just finished the summary and would who would like to start off the discussion.
Kyle
Um, me are.
Kyle
I Thought I thought dude was there gonna go straight up I didn't think he was just gonna like start going in the random direction and then hit some trees.
Scott
Well okay, so you know what I was thinking this is probably the first time he's ever flown without any kind of connection to the force I was I was like you know he gets into the cockpit thinking oh this is a piece of cake I can fly no problem. But then.
Tim
Yeah, okay.
Stuart
Oh okay.
Scott
You know, even when he was just a little kid on Tattooine shooting Lomp Ratts with his T sixteen. He still had some kind of connection to the force whether he knew it or not right exactly exactly yep me up.
Tim
He had performance enhancing drugs his whole life and now they're gone and he's crashing hard literally. Yeah yeah.
Stuart
Ah.
Stuart
Luke has been doping on the force.
Scott
But an assist right? yeah.
Kyle
He had a assist on and now he doesn't have it in his.
Stuart
Oh Jeez Oh so yeah because I I thought it was funny that he said he was playing with it a little bit and he was like oh yeah, this is kind of like the um, the snow speeders on hoth I can kind of feel feel like this. Oh yeah I could I could probably master this.
Scott
Um, yeah, yeah, they're kind of heavy and clunky.
Stuart
With ah like this is the first time he's doing this. He's saying that he can master the flying of this cross and then immediately crashes.
Scott
Um, Matt yet not just not just handle it. Yeah and.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, no, that was really funny.
Stuart
Oh yeah.
Scott
Um, what do they say how how Mara got caught up in in what was it the tails spin or tailwind or something. Yeah.
Tim
And he crashed so hard. He crashed her to yeah.
Stuart
It's the um, it's like the what was it was the tail Windd The tail current of the craft. She was flying that close to him that um yeah, that the the drawught The what would you call that the the tail.
Kyle
That's impressive.
Scott
She was like drafting behind them and.
Tim
Tail wind.
Stuart
A tailwind right? The draft the the all the eddies behind the craft that as he crashed the you know it was such turbulence in the air that she also crashed.
Kyle
The draft.
Scott
Um, yeah, like you were heard of the well I also imagine them being among a lot of trees right? wouldn't the trees kind of.
Tim
Yeah.
Tim
Um, here.
Scott
Obstruct all the tailwind and everything.
Stuart
That's interesting I'm not when I think none of us are fluid dynamic physicists So it's hard to tell that interaction between the the tree canopy and the ah ah.
Tim
The.
Scott
Um, no, but I'm just saying like if the.
Scott
Um, I Just imagine the trees obstructing most of the tailwind and and it not being that big of a deal for her but I don't That's just what I'm imagining in my head. But yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Tim
Let's contact Timothy's on right now. Yeah.
Stuart
Oh.
Kyle
And you know speaking of the canopy they talk about how dense the canopy is constantly. How did they survive this crass and not hit 40 trees on the way down.
Scott
Um, right I Yeah I don't know.
Stuart
There was a you know more technobabble about inertial dampeners and and some sort of like futuristic airbag as well I can't remember the phrase that they used but they did say that's some sort of balloon.
Tim
There.
Tim
Are.
Scott
Um, oh there was something like that. Yeah yeah, well and these trees are like apparently their own metal or they have like metal within them somehow. So it's seems like it would be like you know 10 times as hard to hit this one of these trees.
Tim
Um, yeah, right? yeah.
Tim
Oh Magneto would have a field day on this planet.
Stuart
If cheese.
Scott
Yeah, right.
Stuart
Yeah, so they must have like really great and safety precautions on these shuttles. Well are they that then they're not shuttles. Are they they're some sort of um they called Skipray Blast Boats So are they fighters or.
Tim
And.
Scott
Yeah.
Kyle
Amazing.
Scott
Um, skip craft I don't I was thinking it was kind of like I know I was.
Kyle
I Don't know why I just picture those boats that they use and like swamps that have the giant fan on the back of them.
Tim
Are.
Scott
Um, well I was thinking of like a little um like a little hover bars thing that they had above the s starlack and returning the Jeni I seeing them maybe that was like a skip Ray or skip craft but then it sounded like it was a lot more enclosed after he crashed.
Stuart
Oh okay.
Tim
Okay.
Kyle
Um, we have ah we we have technology we can look up what it looks like it.
Stuart
Yeah, it says it's a heavy starfighter.
Scott
Um, no way. But.
Tim
Um I was imagining a starfighter with like some cargo extra cargo space on it.
Stuart
Um, yeah, a little bit. Yeah because it did say that I had like a dorsal. No not dorsal ventral. The ventral tail was the thing that got caught and.
Scott
Um, a fish. Oh yeah, right? I think they did mention a dorsal fin of some type like a.
Kyle
It kind of looks like a fish.
Tim
Oh that. Ah, that's what they're flying I has an ugly spaceship I'm sorry guys. Yeah, it looks terrible.
Scott
Dorsal wing like a dorsal wing So Ugly. You look at our.
Stuart
Um, this is then powerful.
Kyle
The powerful Skipway Blast vote
Tim
Ah, yeah.
Scott
To the Wikipedia oh that's weird.
Tim
Yeah, right.
Kyle
Um, this source is class is heavy starfighter I.
Scott
It doesn't look very big or heavy but that tail thing in that back is just weird why now.
Tim
Um, yeah I'm not digging this. Oh they have a deck plan. Okay, so it has some seats in the back.
Stuart
Yeah, a starfighter is a small maneuverable starship designed for combat so it is designed for combat.
Tim
Yeah, and it has a few seats in the back alongside the main cockpit.
Stuart
Um, so it like it must be bigger than the next wing right? I'm guessing.
Tim
Yeah, definitely.
Kyle
Um, yeah I think how the price of it is here 285000 credits exactly.
Scott
Yeah I saw that too I can get 1 used for 150000 credits
Stuart
My price? yeah.
Tim
Um, how much is it going to hell? yeah.
Stuart
The Imperial Sourcebook second edition is apparently the source of that. Ah, that price.
Tim
Um, oh there's a canon article so it made it into canon The canon article is a single sentence. Yeah.
Stuart
Ok.
Scott
So sweet.
Kyle
Yeah.
Stuart
Oh is it.
Kyle
No, no, no this is not for multiple people. It says minimum crew one passengers none.
Scott
Um, wasn't yeah it looked if you look at the size of the wind the windshield cockton area. It looks like it's like can only hold like 1 person maybe 2 at the most but do they.
Stuart
That.
Tim
The what? Why did the? um.
Tim
No, but they have like a flight deck plan.
Kyle
Oh they actually know it is also say pilot crew one pilot one oh 1 coppilot two gunners
Scott
2 gunners really? Okay, it doesn't look much bigger than a snowspeeder. But I guess if they can hold 2 more people that's weird.
Stuart
Now there you go.
Stuart
Oh yeah, and the um the tails the the tail flips around as well like the um ah we were talking about starships for 4 but the um the the mendelorans gauntlet.
Scott
Um, okay I was wondering about that. Yeah.
Scott
Um, oh yeah, right? Yeah yeah, and Luke look thinks he can master this thing when it's like spinning all around in circles and [blaster].
Stuart
So it might do a little bit of something like that. But it looks way less cool than that.
Tim
Yeah, it's it's better in the horizontal formation rather than the vertical one.
Stuart
Yeah.
Kyle
Um, it.
Tim
Okay.
Stuart
You know what? the ah like the main compartment of it kind of looks like the and the Y wing compartment as well. Just yeah, the front end it kind of looks like a y wing just with.
Scott
Um, you mean like the front end. Yeah.
Stuart
The engines all changed up.
Scott
Are.
Tim
Oh nice.
Stuart
Oh okay.
Kyle
Um, oh pretty fun. This is the first ah appearance of this air to the empire first appearance. Thanks.
Scott
Wait. And if you look at the quote it says Skippy Blastbo here unidentifieded zon concentratorian pilot.
Tim
So what I'm getting from this is that they're basically chasing each other in minivans.
Scott
Um, essentially yeah.
Stuart
Um, you see? yeah, it's exactly that. Yeah.
Kyle
Um, but it might seems like it many many vans with church on the sides.
Tim
Ah, yeah, yeah.
Scott
Okay, so if you go down a little bit. You'll see like the side profile of it and that doesn't look so bad.
Stuart
No.
Tim
As it's so kind of messes with me.
Scott
A little but it doesn't look terrible.
Kyle
Well I guess my my my question for this is what was what was mar's plan because she was right on his ass so she wasn't gonna shoot him down with a son and chase him until he was out of gas or something I Don know.
Scott
Um, yeah, so is she flying the same thing.
Stuart
Yeah, she was playing the same thing I'm guessing that she was going to fly to disable him because you take out something like either the engines or because if she's quite experienced in this. She might be able to do some sort of like.
Tim
Um, yeah.
Kyle
Yeah.
Stuart
Surgical strike on this craft to take it out of commission so that she can then board him and arrest him in the Civilian sense. Yeah.
Scott
Yeah, maybe like some kind of yeah maybe or do like a pit maneuver on him or something well she does. But yeah, maybe she was.
Tim
Does she want to kill him.
Kyle
I Mean what does the word. Want mean if she wanted to she would it by now.
Scott
Yeah, well even she says we don't all get what we want.
Tim
Um, there fair.
Stuart
Yeah I mean she's she also wants answers from him so she wants to extract that information.
Tim
Now Gotcha I would like answers to but I do feel like we started getting a G glimpse. So yeah.
Scott
Um, well, that's true too. Yeah.
Stuart
Ah, ah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's she's starting to crank.
Scott
Yep.
Kyle
Ah.
Scott
Um.
Tim
And it's nice that I'm appreciating it.
Stuart
Yeah I wrote this note but I can't remember the context so please remind me um, something about ah Luke's flight hours in his x wing is ah.
Scott
Um, oh yeah, he was talking about. Sorry oh he was talking about the connection between R two and the X wing because she was like.
Stuart
He said in the last five years he spent 3000 hours flying and yeah, go ahead.
Scott
You know oh how can he train he how can he decrypt it into the x wing. Um I don't know if you is that drawn a bell at all like go back? Yeah because she was if if r 2 sent the encrypted message up the imperials would have to have and yeah.
Tim
Yeah, right? So like sending the transmission to the X swing.
Stuart
Right? right? okay.
Scott
Intercepted it as well. So they would had to have encrypted. She's like oh well, how is card going to decrypt it if it's so good that the imperials can't so he said I'll just have R to link it to the X wing and then the X we can decrypt it? Yeah and so he had he was saying that R two's had so many hours with the Xw wing that he's made a.
Stuart
Ah, right right.
Scott
Um, can't remember how she described it but some kind of connection to it. Um, basically so yeah, so it's yeah, exactly so the x week and the him or like Budy buddy right.
Tim
Um, yeah.
Stuart
A.
Kyle
Um, he basically rewrote the code of how it works.
Stuart
Right? right? So this software is so interlinked that they can talk to each other it was 30% faster than or yeah, which she was impressed with so.
Tim
Yeah, thirty thirty five at most.
Scott
Yeah, he the thirtieth and five yeah and she's yeah she says oh that is that is something I forgot the word cheese. But yeah.
Kyle
Um, yeah.
Tim
Yeah.
Stuart
You know? Ah so yeah I if you consider that it's of of 3000 hours of flight time. Um, five years is almost 44000 hours that pretending that he sleeps for half the time. Ah his spending maybe 12 % of his time if we because yeah we don't there's no, there seems to be no kind of general relativity in.
Scott
I o.
Stuart
The style was universe. There's no time dilation or anything that happens so we're assuming that he spends about 12 to 13% of his time in um, in his x wing which doesn't sound like a lot. But now that I think about it that's like an eighth of his time is spent.
Tim
Right? yeah.
Scott
Are.
Stuart
in in x-bay and an eighth of his waking hours is spent in his.
Tim
Still not as much time as I spend in my car here in America. Yeah yeah.
Stuart
Yeah, considering how much star travel there. So but how long it takes yeah, an eighth of days time doesn't seem an 8 of his waking hours doesn't seem like a lot to be spending.
Kyle
Um, yeah, really.
Scott
Um, yeah.
Scott
Um, yeah.
Kyle
I I probably send three or four hours a day in my car.
Stuart
Now three or four hours a day we should take you know so if he spends 3 hours a day in his car that it take a thousand days which is only 3 years so
Scott
Um, that many like commuting or just in general.
Tim
All of it.
Kyle
Um, might.
Stuart
Luke is not spending so much time in his xwing for this weird software bug to be happening between the artu and his x wing.
Scott
I.
Kyle
Well I mean it also really just depends because they do wipe what was it. They wipe them there. They typically wipe them every 3 6 3 to six months for is it and you know it's just yeah, he's just is well all of the time he's there art. He's in there. Also.
Scott
Another six months
Stuart
Yeah, something I did.
Tim
Yeah.
Tim
Sure yeah.
Kyle
Maybe or 2 just kind of sit sometimes yeah, that's just that's just flying when duke goes out to go do something our 2 is just sitting there. He's probably [blaster]ing. Not the thing.
Stuart
You know.
Tim
Yeah, getting cozy with the Xlink Yeah do drids get bored.
Stuart
Yeah, probably.
Scott
Yeah.
Kyle
I Mean what does art to do what does art you do in his downtime I know do and dream of a Rio cheap.
Stuart
Maybe but um, it's probably like dogs right? that dogs when they're not stimulated. They go to sleep most animals in the wild when they're not stimulated. They go to sleep when my computer is not stimulated it just goes to sleep I think.
Scott
Um, they just go into like sleep mode. Yeah, right like.
Tim
Oh that sounds so nice.
Kyle
DDeutsche
Stuart
Humans are pretty unique in that kind of like yeah I mean humans do that too. It's only in our like hyper stimulated modern lifestyle that we have to be awake for 16 hours a day 15 hours a day.
Kyle
Um I I Also do that.
Scott
Um, was lucky you. But.
Tim
Yeah, yeah.
Tim
Yeah, too much? yeah.
Scott
Um I can barely fall asleep at night.
Stuart
And so then we get down ah onto the forest floor mara jade ah I don't know how Luke didn't see that coming that she's just waiting for him to go like he's fine and he thinks that her.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott
Right.
Stuart
Kroft ended up better on the inside. He should have just booked it out of that as soon as he know like like yeah.
Tim
Um, yeah, well Luke isn't known for critical thinking skills.
Scott
Um, right? but.
Kyle
Um, yeah, but he thought back to what Ovi once said, right before he died also well quick outside of the book.
Stuart
Ah.
Scott
Yeah, he's go Oh I guess I got to go check.
Tim
Um, yeah, that's that's an emotional decision.
Stuart
There.
Kyle
Can someone explain to me what happened am I What happened with this little note here.
Stuart
Oh I was doing that last night and and dim wrote. Hey.
Tim
And I was I was reading earlier today and I saw we acted I was like hey sir. Yeah.
Kyle
Ah, oh they? Yeah no I He's a left.
Stuart
A.
Tim
Yeah, and very much not luke strong su at all. But I did like getting a callback to um, something ob be 1 said? yeah.
Stuart
Yeah, and something recent too because like we we talked about the last chapter of like ah we calling back to the return of the Jedi too much and this time we had their call back to Empire strikes back and now we've got to call back to the beginning of the book That's ah, a little little bit more of a contemporary reference.
Scott
Um.
Tim
Yeah, ah.
Scott
Are in.
Kyle
Mem.
Tim
Think Yeah, yeah, know it. It feels a bit um more tangible from a st storyingtelling perspective. Yeah thing back to that time that O B one just dipped.
Stuart
Yeah, yeah.
Scott
Are.
Tim
Ah, yeah.
Scott
Pees out.
Stuart
Yeah I Wonder if we are going to see any more false ghosts or like that's going to be it.
Scott
Um, wonder who it would be um.
Tim
That would be really interesting if we didn't.
Kyle
Well this is legends does everyone get to be a forest ghost or do you have to train to be a forest ghost.
Scott
Um, well at this point we didn't know.
Stuart
Um I think at the time it was just supposed to be good people this just the Jedi because it yeah.
Scott
Um I think it was just supposed to be should eyes. Yeah, yeah, and then bader kind of was redeemed at the end of her turn of Jedi so he showed up as a for ghost at the end.
Kyle
A.
Stuart
Yeah, so if we take that as reference then if you're good. You can stick around for a bit if you've got enough Comma points and then it seems like didn't.
Scott
Oh here.
Stuart
Ah, be 1 make a reference to say that like I'm not that strong I'm in the force to be able to stick stick around like his he spent all these all his skill points and now he's just going to fade away.
Scott
Are.
Tim
Um, he invested in a different um skill area. Yeah.
Stuart
Um, yeah, oh and he said something about like moving on to the next thing that there is something else. Another great journey waiting for him is there like.
Scott
Um.
Kyle
With that.
Scott
Oh.
Tim
Right? Um, I'm looking at it right now. Um the distances separating us have become too great for me to appear to you in any other way now. Even this last path last path is being closed to me.
Scott
Um.
Scott
Um, but what distance was it.
Tim
Well, that's how force goes talk. The decision is not mine to make I have lingered too long already and can no longer postpone my journey from this life to what lies beyond.
Kyle
Um.
Stuart
Um, if you.
Scott
Um.
Stuart
So is he a reliable narrator or is that just his um perspective that we're seeing that there is something else beyond or is Timothy's on hinting at some sort of like next plane of existence.
Tim
Yes, so um.
Scott
Are.
Stuart
From the styles universe.
Kyle
Or is 1 board of paintinging around duke and wants to go walk and do other things. He wants to go. He wants to go do some cool ghost stuff with his school ghost friends.
Tim
Yeah.
Scott
Um, hey Yoda got bored and he's just like right? Yoda got sick of his questions and just died. So maybe that's what' be ones, do it.
Tim
Ah, yeah.
Stuart
It.
Kyle
He did die. He got asked like 6 questions and then passed away.
Tim
Yeah.
Stuart
A.
Tim
And I still feel like the whole force ghost thing still isn't like quite clear even in Canada now. Yeah yeah.
Stuart
Yeah I don't think it's ah up high on their priority list at the moment.
Scott
Um, yeah.
Scott
Um, who forced ghost busters who that's.
Kyle
Next one is just all gonna be about Forest Coast it to me a forest goes adventure there.
Tim
I Would honestly be down actually. Ah.
Kyle
Ah.
Stuart
Um, it's a dockside cult that tries to dispel the ghosts of the Jedi that are trying to stick around.
Scott
Um, that.
Tim
Ah.
Kyle
Yeah I don't think a movie you good. But I think I like a little short story of a Jit a jetdi like path on topping in a forest ghost or that's like what they see I think it definitely be a more revisions thing more than a tales of the jet I think.
Scott
Um, like a visions episode. Yeah.
Tim
Yeah.
Tim
We got something like that in the clone wars with an arc that Yoda had where he went like ah on a deeply spiritual journey and at the end of it like qua gu was like oh hey, here's how you become a forced ghost. Basically yeah.
Scott
Are.
Stuart
A.
Scott
Um, and yeah I remember that here.
Kyle
They're probably 1 of the best art in clo wars and then he has to fight dark Yota yeah, classic.
Stuart
Oh yeah.
Tim
Um, yeah, yeah, but I'd be down for like a trippy next plane of existence forced ghost adventure.
Stuart
Now.
Scott
That's e.
Tim
It'd be hilarious if like none of them could understand each other though because of the way forest goes top.
Kyle
Are.
Stuart
Ah.
Scott
Ah.
Tim
But I do like that moment of Luke um, referring back to it and being like oh this is the kind of person I'm going to be this the kind of space Pope I'm going to be and then Mars is like now.
Stuart
Um, and.
Stuart
Do you think she tipped a hand a little bit too much when she used the lightsaber to chop up the tree.
Tim
Um, yeah, oh I don't know she cares at this point. Um I think she's very much trying to prove herself to Luke in some ways.
Stuart
No yeah, she's ah.
Stuart
Yeah, it does feel a little bit like school yard aggression. Yeah man.
Scott
Um, ah.
Tim
Like she's overcompensating.
Kyle
What she did mention that your store was doing it the show off that she did know how to use it.
Stuart
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking like is that too much showing a hand of like who she used to be to this guy that supposedly means nothing too but also everything and.
Scott
Um, right? you.
Tim
He had to have wounded her pride like crazy.
Stuart
Yeah.
Stuart
I Feel like she in the in the previous chapter we did them on her say being angry at the universe but I do feel like yeah she is very angry at the universe She she's feels very impotent. She's.
Scott
Yeah, feels like it's like her her divine mission or something.
Tim
Yeah, yeah.
Scott
Are.
Stuart
And stripped of everything and yeah I feel like yeah, she's just somebody angry at a whole loss of power and has ah you know trying to take it out in any way she can.
Tim
She just happens to be expressing it in a very memable way. Yeah, yeah.
Stuart
A.
Kyle
I see it. It is a bit confused I mean I guess it's me personally if I did have my life completely ruined and there was somebody I felt could so responsible for it. It would just be I'm either gonna move On. And do what I can in my new life. What she she has it sounds like she has a good life now and she isn't letting this and go so it I know the fact that she has questions it's saying it's like.
Stuart
A.
Tim
Yeah.
Scott
Um, and he me.
Tim
She must have a dark side background.
Kyle
You're dragging this out or they go too on.
Stuart
And there.
Scott
Um, yeah, so I'm wondering if Luke if Luke wasn't a part of this would she use her position with card to eventually pursue him at some point or would she just let him go and forget about him.
Stuart
Me.
Kyle
I See that's a good question. Did she move on and then he showed up and now she's mad again because that's right I get that.
Scott
I'm kind of thinking that.
Stuart
Yeah, yeah, totally I think it'd be you know, given that Luke is extremely famous in this universe. Ah it you know, ah, it'd be hard to move on from that.
Kyle
Oh.
Tim
Right.
Stuart
And her moving out into the middle of nowhere with some independent contractor is part of that try to move on and just get away from it all and then Luke just keeps pushing herself into ah his life.
Tim
That's a good point. Yeah because he got a major like governmental position and and now she's going outside of that system in that. Yeah.
Scott
Well, that's true. Yeah, that's true and if he's a space pope then he better have some really good [blaster]ing space pop mobile with bulletproof glass and blasster proof Light Saber Proof whatever orange screw proof glass.
Stuart
Yeah.
Tim
Um, the New Republic doesn't have the budget.
Scott
So.
Stuart
This is.
Kyle
Man that that was another line that I thought was super interesting in this chapter is that? um yeah, he he were that Mario said that new sky he was more than just his last name.
Scott
Are.
Kyle
And I but it just oh I thought skyworkker was just like a nothing name is it the fact that there were now 2 notable skyworkers or.
Scott
Um, you know I was wondering I don't know I thought that too because I thought it was supposed to be a pretty common name but you know what there's like no other jedi in the history of Jedi with skywalker you know unrelated or there's no other famous characters in any of the stories with. But I mean why would they write that you know, but still It's just yeah I don't know it's a little odd but.
Tim
Yeah.
Tim
Oh I um I interpret it as like he just became like such a well-known figure and almost a legend to like the whole galaxy and um I thought she was thinking that maybe just that like 1
Scott
The.
Stuart
Um, yeah.
Tim
Or 2 accomplishments was like all there was to him and now she's like oh he he can do some things. Yeah, basically yeah.
Scott
Who.
Kyle
You peaked in high school.
Stuart
Um, I think that is a line for the next chapter.
Tim
Oh no, it's hard when these 2 blend together.
Kyle
He peaked in high school.
Stuart
No her in a monologue was in the next chapter I Think yeah.
Scott
Ah, you write? um.
Tim
So yeah.
Stuart
But yeah, it kind of pulls back to what I said in the last Chapter that like there are so many points of view in this that it kind of seems like ah a little bit of arbitrage of where they're trying to draw the narrative line of like this is the next chapter and this is the next chapter because like I don't know I don't know enough about.
Stuart
Where to where where people draw these lines or like that people structure chapters in a particular way that has its own kind of circle to it in in storytelling. But and Tim did you study anything like that.
Tim
Um I did and I realized it was all bull[blaster]Â or realized it. So um, the thing I first think of is like the 3 act structure with um screenwriting.
Stuart
Yeah, that's how I feel too.
Scott
Ah.
Kyle
Um.
Stuart
A.
Tim
And the structure itself gets hammered in so much to people and um I feel like it's quite popular because if you're like a film producer and you're focusing more on the business and just getting movies made. Then oh I know like.
Stuart
A.
Tim
What an act is I know what each 1 ne's supposed to look like I know where they're supposed to end and if a script fits these few beats then it's a good one I can invest in it and I don't have to spend much time you know studying it basically put that much effort. Um, but.
Stuart
Yeah.
Tim
Like there are plenty of movies that I think that that that are just not that engaging and that's because I feel like the structure gets emphasized so much that the momentum of the story or like um.
Stuart
Ah.
Tim
Or like character psychology and how it naturally develops just kind of falls by the wayside or sometimes gets manipulated in order to fit that structure in a way that feels inorganic So I am very anti-structure list.
Stuart
Um, ah damn.
Scott
He.
Stuart
Um, yeah.
Kyle
I I love I Love when I was I watch skin ring recently and that this was a wild ride. Oh I have no idea what's going on half the time my heart's racing the entire time as well.
Tim
Oh yeah.
Stuart
Of.
Tim
Um, yeah, you know I mean that's how it should be I mean just focus on the scene to scene like your character's feeling this right now. What are they realistically going to do next and then just have them do that.
Stuart
Ah, damn.
Tim
Um, that's how breaking bad was written. Yeah they made very few plans. It's true there. There are no right answers in art. Yeah.
Scott
Is.
Stuart
Ah, or.
Stuart
Yeah, na I Certainly not.
Kyle
I know sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't um, yeah I mean with ah I think a great never was with ah the avatar series. The avatar. The last airbender was planned and budgeted from start to finish like when they started it. They knew that they had x amount of seasons to get this amount of story into it and they got a good story out of it and then with the legend of Quora they got.
Stuart
M.
Tim
True true.
Scott
Are.
Kyle
Approved for 1 season maybe more and they just kind of went with what they could and it didn't not great.
Tim
Well I feel like the first series also had a great attention to the detail I'm referring to yeah with um the flow of the story where characters are what they would do next and so it felt natural with Cora I.
Stuart
And.
Tim
Often felt like some things are rushed and things are dragged out too much occasionally I wondered why a character did what they did. Um, yeah, it's me too.
Kyle
But.
Stuart
Um, I still really enjoyed Cora because um, no, it wasn't it wasn't terrible I do feel like these like smaller smaller moments in the all the overall story was.
Kyle
That wasn't terrible.
Stuart
You know, subject to these criticisms. Ah as you say, but um I I really did like the I guess like the philosophies that were at play between definitely Cora and homain antagonists during that. Um.
Tim
Yeah.
Stuart
I Think that's what really really struck with me rather than any particular like scene by scene or like why why the hell did the the metal bending society end up wanting to force some sort of imperialism At some point I was like where did this come from.
Tim
Yeah.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? Yeah no I mean you're right because I I do agree that like the villains of each season were um, ah set up to ah.
Kyle
Are yeah.
Stuart
Yes.
Tim
Yeah, into a really engaging philosophical philosophical conflict with Quora and challenge her in very specific ways and particularly once you get to 3 um like a way that she needed to be challenged. Yeah.
Stuart
Mm no.
Stuart
Now.
Kyle
That sort of if it's a sort Avenue to broadcast they they were starting back up again I'm very excited for the new movie coming out.
Tim
I know.
Scott
You'll have to count me out of that that no idea what you're talking about.
Tim
Yeah, Scott you should check it out. It's a good show.
Scott
I mean I I believe it? Yeah I don't doubt it at all I'll tell you what Tim if you watch venture brothers I'll watch Airbender ah I meant.
Tim
Um, yeah, yeah, ah I will not take that but I was sorry I cannot be relied on to watch any recommendations I I go with what I feel.
Kyle
Let's all get together and watch the new movie coming out.
Stuart
This is.
Kyle
How need how many steves and how many speed how many seasons of ven brother is there there only 3 seasons of Avatar great are yeah.
Scott
Um, seven is that all wow I don't know why I thought it was like a really long like crazy long show. Ventro brothers are 7 seasons but I mean some of the seasons are only like 10
Tim
Well, once we get into core. There's 4 seasons but we think of them as separate shows. No I mean granted, they're like granted they're like 22 episode seasons. But they're like 30 minute twenty thirty minutes episodes yeah anyway back to star wars.
Kyle
Is the now.
Scott
In absence. But okay, yeah, yeah, all right.
Stuart
But pretty long. Yeah.
Stuart
Yeah, well let's let's let's jump our jump perspectives and I wanted to talk about. Um how Timothy Zo mentioned a few times about that grass that was cutting them and it made me think.
Tim
Yeah, yeah.
Tim
Right? yeah.
Scott
Um, oh yeah, like the razor grass or something.
Stuart
The the yeah yeah that it was digging into their shirts and then it scratched him at one point and I was like Gras Mcguffin when is this going to come back.
Scott
Um, and.
Kyle
A.
Tim
That's going to Beron's downfall. Ah, yeah.
Scott
You' chipping it stabbed on the grass but right through his eyeballs through.
Stuart
That or it's the thing that that.
Kyle
You imagine a brilliant meter just kind of gets tangled up some grass and die it just gets stuck and no one's around to help him.
Tim
Yeah.
Tim
Yeah, or he sees one of the characters get cut and realizes they bleed the same and he has a change of heart.
Stuart
Well I was going to say that maybe it's something that throw notices that their that their shirts are all scuffed in a particular way and is like I know exactly how you were you would damage like this. Yeah and then that's how he realizes that card is a.
Scott
Um, well I think you would know that by now.
Scott
You were laying in that patch of grass Twenty feet over there.
Tim
Um.
Stuart
Is not playing straight with him and turns on him.
Scott
Um, and lando.
Tim
But like I mean it was Han and Lando and ghens there. Okay so he would only realistically see ghents because if he sees like haor Lando he's like oh arrest them on site. Yeah yeah.
Scott
Yeah.
Stuart
No, no, no, but like they get off-world right? And so ah, ah, Han's wearing his jacket that he never washes and it's got the scuff marks on it from the grass that they see elsewhere in the galaxy they just like they meet somewhere.
Tim
Um, yeah.
Tim
Yeah.
Stuart
And he's like hold on I recognize that particular cut on your vest that was all the way from meka you must have been there while I was there because it's had the very particular kind of weathering to say that it's been. You know five months down the line five months ago I was on muga you were on meka.
Kyle
And.
Scott
Um, right right? Yeah, he has to big brain the grass.
Tim
Um, all right I gotcha.
Tim
A.
Kyle
Um, you know it's very funny. It's very funny. You mentioned in that you han doesn't wash clothes I feel like Lando changes the clothes 3 times a day.
Stuart
God isn't playing straight with me.
Tim
Oh absolutely. Yeah.
Stuart
Oh of course he would. He is an evening cape and a morning cape.
Scott
Right? Like like like in space is how she's carrying her giant like in space well is how the princess is carrying like the giant suitcase full of [blaster]Â you know that's like Lando through the forest.
Kyle
Um, yeah.
Tim
Yeah.
Stuart
Hold on I've got just the outfit for traipsing through the Forest.
Tim
Yeah I do love how the solo movie made him have a closet full of caves on the falcon. Yeah yeah.
Scott
Um, wait wait teach me Oh that's but not about that. But it's like oh I'm going to lay down on the grass. Okay I got to change my shirt into my grass laying down shirt.
Stuart
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kyle
Um.
Kyle
It's a very obscure reference. But there's a a show called cast of 3000 ah and one of the characters changes outfits several times and there's a point where he jumps into a swimming pool and as he's exiting the swimming pool each wearing different swimming junks.
Scott
Um.
Scott
Um, but.
Stuart
Ah, is it a live action thing or an animation one. Ah ah I did feel like ah in this chapter and we've been getting more of it.
Kyle
No, it's an animator's name.
Tim
Um, that's hilarious.
Stuart
Ah, recently that han sassiness is coming through and it feels very hard I feel like he's got yeah probably but I feel like Zana's done a good job of capturing those little mannerisms and.
Scott
Um, yeah, it does.
Tim
He he's probably less nervous now that lays with the whookies. Yeah.
Scott
Um, yeah, picks up.
Stuart
You made you made the one comment before of like when they were on um, wasn't ah bit Fash wasn' it and he's making the cold to admiral akbar I don't like your tone Well I don't like him much either.
Tim
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, now I do feel like he's writing him very well. Yeah, um, he probably feels the closest to the movies to me.
Scott
Oh yeah.
Kyle
Um.
Stuart
Yeah.
Scott
Um, me.
Kyle
Um.
Stuart
Yeah, oh okay.
Scott
Um.
Tim
Out of the characters Chewbacca feels the furthest because shebacca does not talk. Yeah.
Scott
Um, just because he's had like 4 lines. But.
Kyle
Yeah.
Stuart
We need to write little reminders of footnotes that Chewbucker is still standing in the corner menacingly.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, I feel like r two is more anxious in this book as you've pointed out Stewart compared to the movies.
Scott
Um, yeah, right right? um.
Kyle
Um.
Stuart
Yeah, well you haven't wiped you draw you haven't shut down your computer in 23 years probably even longer than that memory is I mean our 2 has never had ah a memory wipe right? even in the prequels.
Tim
Yeah.
Scott
Um, the whole drill and the whole and right? Yeah well R Two has to tell a story though.
Tim
Yeah I believe So yeah.
Stuart
C Three Po gets his memory wiped but R two doesn't.
Tim
Um, he's got to win the fan fiction contests with the wills. Yeah.
Scott
Um, yeah.
Stuart
Aha.
Stuart
And I like the image of ghent being like a little bit whiny as well in the chapter like come on. We got a good. They're gonna spot us I don't know it's just some Grand admiral or something.
Tim
Um, yeah, yeah.
Kyle
Um, is I.
Scott
Um, I going to pee.
Tim
Yeah, he is such a teenager such a whiny teenager. Ah.
Scott
Um, he was like I'm gonna I'm gonna Miss Avatar you're gonna watch it. You gonna go.
Stuart
Ah, come on the new episode of the lost holocrans out I Want to go listen.
Tim
Yeah I need to find out what's happening to me right now.
Scott
Um, you know what happens to me in the next chapter.
Stuart
He's be. He's worried about his self image. He wants to know what people think about him.
Kyle
Um.
Tim
Ah, yeah, oh no, our first negative review.
Kyle
And will make you fun of me. Yeah.
Stuart
Get ghent one star I Don't think their opinions are based on anything real.
Scott
Um, character from the book. So.
Tim
Um, yeah, wild misinterpretations of the material and.
Stuart
Um.
Kyle
They talked about Kirby for a long time.
Stuart
I Thought this was a Star Wars podcast.
Scott
Um.
Scott
Um, surprise it's about everything.
Tim
Um.
Tim
Yeah.
Stuart
And then get doesn't know what and what a lizard is. He's like oh little for snakes with legs.
Scott
Right? yeah.
Tim
Um, yeah, little fairy snakes with legs. Ah that was so funny.
Kyle
Um, a.
Scott
He just knows about technology. He doesn't know about biology.
Stuart
Yeah, right right? Well, he's got an excuse then.
Kyle
A.
Tim
Ah, yeah.
Scott
Um, and he doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut either.
Stuart
Oh yeah.
Tim
Yeah, he talks quite a bit like I feel like Conan Lando just got a lot of Intel from him.
Stuart
I Don't know anything about a prisoner who mentioned a prisoner. What's going on. Oh it's like unsolicited breach of information.
Tim
Yeah, right.
Scott
I'm right.
Kyle
Oh also like so do you think he doesn't recognize who Luke Sidewalker is or.
Stuart
No, no, no in the previous chapter um card said that he took everybody off world who might know about what happened on his on the wild card and so the only people that are left on world are either people that are in.
Scott
Um, or I thought maybe he just did. Yeah yeah.
Kyle
Alga My that's right I go.
Stuart
His inner inner circle or people who don't know what's when they arrested Luke or captured Luke or whatever.
Scott
Yeah I mean I imagine him knowing Luke's name but probably not what he looks like you know if he had heard like oh they captured Luke Skywalker you know, maybe he would recognize it but I mean at this point I don't think he was told who they captured. But if. He was eventually told oh they captured luxava. He might know the name but not, you know if you were to see him I don't think he would recognize him you think so you think they know what he looks like? yeah.
Stuart
No I think Luke is more famous than that like everybody would know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tim
But I mean there's always that one person that like never watches the news or keeps up with pop culture but also gent is a slicer So I feel like he should be like pretty well informed.
Scott
Um, yeah.
Stuart
Yeah, which of the 4 of us don't watch the news tim.
Scott
Um, well that's true. Yes.
Kyle
What kind of news are we talking about.
Tim
Um, yeah, stear are you saying you don't watch the news. Yeah I mean I don't watch it I just read headlines.
Stuart
I Don't watch the news.
Scott
Um, yeah I don't watch it and everyone's all listen to it or whatever social media.
Stuart
I don't even do that all my news comes from the people around me that just tell me stuff like oh did you know that this happened like no I didn't know that that the prime minister of of Japan was shot. Yeah.
Tim
Um, that sounds like a nice existence. Do you recommend it show. Try it.
Scott
Me.
Stuart
Yeah, no I recommend not listening to the news getting your news from people seems to be is well Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Scott
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Kyle
If there's anything significant enough to impact my life I'll find out about it.
Scott
Um.
Tim
Yeah, I'm going to the perspective before this one I Love that the imperial shuttles were perfectly synchronized.
Scott
Um, that seems something like exactly what Ron would do.
Stuart
Um, yeah.
Tim
Ah, yeah.
Stuart
Away who who's the one that um made the comment about the Imperial ah parade Yeah aves aves.
Tim
The Para ground as Expertise Hast wrote it that was um of aves aves whatever we want to call themia.
Scott
Um, it.
Stuart
Oh isn't abes his like administrative assistant or something like that. Yeah.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, and then on top of that there's a tie fighter escort that goes by an equally perfect formation I Just loved that.
Scott
Yeah I thought it was kind of like his right hand man or something that.
Stuart
They are well. You know that kind of parade. Um, stuff is not just about looking a certain way for presentation. But it's also ah like a drilling tool. Used by the military to get subjugation of their or like um compliance from their soldiers and stuff like that They they're you know it's It's not just a.. There's just for Sure. It has ah a lot of um.
Tim
The.
Scott
Um.
Stuart
And that's why militaries throughout history have have always had like marching and drills and and and stuff like that. So one you can show it off as a kind of show of force as well of like oh my look. How intimidating all these people are moving in coordination. But also as ah as a point of like military education as Well. It's It's quite Important. So for um, Peleon I think that would be particularly a ah point of interest because he feels like oh these people are really green. You know this isn't you know the golden age of the empire is is behind us and we need to really like Spit shine our boots and and blah blah Blas I'm maybe.
Tim
Right? yeah.
Stuart
Poleon has been quite up on making sure that people are very well-trained much to thrones. Yeah, much to yeah, yeah, now I think I think it's poon that we'll be pushing that. But.
Tim
Right? Yeah, now that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, but also I feel likeron will be on top of that. So there. Yeah.
Stuart
Thron will be very happy to is probably why he's taking play on under his wing because he sees that precision attention to detail. Although I'm guessing he doesn't have much of ah much of a selection of imperial offices to.
Tim
Ah, true.
Tim
Right? right? yeah.
Tim
Um, yeah, yeah, now Slim slim pickings. Yeah.
Scott
Well.
Stuart
Yeah.
Tim
You know I Also um I'm thoroughly enjoying like every interaction between thrron and card now that they actually talk because there's so many mind games happening.
Stuart
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I do feel like cod is very much out of his depth though. It does feel like does yeah Wha and defensive. Do you think that cod.
Scott
Um. Yeah.
Scott
Are.
Tim
Um, way on the defensive.
Stuart
Thinks that he has a chance here or does he know that his overwhelmhelt or surrounded or yeah I get that feeling too.
Tim
I Think he's in denial about it a bit. Yeah.
Scott
Um I don't know I think so yeah, yeah.
Kyle
I We it just before we're after he [blaster fire]Â
Tim
I Think that's next chapter? Yeah I.
Stuart
Ah, that's an chapterer.
Scott
Um, but yeah.
Kyle
He has to have a backup plan. He seems like a smart enough well over nice person and like yes that like base B Anie floating around there somewhere.
Tim
I Think he's slowly starting to recognize that you can't play with both sides when one side is a fascist. Yeah.
Stuart
O.
Stuart
The well I don't think it's the fascism that that is makes thrown dangerous I think it's is you know he's very astute. He's picking up on all these details and I guess the fascism does make.
Kyle
Her.
Stuart
Does give that a trenchant edge but you know.
Tim
It.
Scott
Um, yeah, it's almost like I don't know it's like thran is a cat playing with his prey right now just waiting for him to make the wrong move.
Stuart
Now.
Tim
Ah I Also don't even like get much of that impression from thr though because he he seems less like a schemer and more of an opportunist like an observer. Yeah um I mean ah because whenever we um.
Stuart
Does he.
Scott
Um, is are.
Tim
Whenever he like talks about his plans or like the information he divines like you know who was on which ship like who was on the ship that went to kashik and who is on the still on the Millennium Falcon Um I think he just like really pays attention to things and um, ah.
Stuart
N.A.
Scott
Are.
Tim
Like gets as much speculates as much information as he can from that then ah rationalizes it and makes multiple possible plans based on that. That's the impression I get from him I mean he does make plans as well. But um.
Stuart
Um, no.
Tim
Like whatever his big thing with S Lewis Van is but I feel like on his way to accomplishing his goals. He's very um, kind of sort of an improviser. Not really an improviser more just um, like someone that's looking ahead.
Scott
Oh.
Stuart
Down.
Tim
At every possible opportunity in preparing for them.
Stuart
Yeah, he does feel like that. Um the the chess player that's in the center of ah playing 5 different games of chess and beating everybody else that yeah no i'm.
Scott
Um, who but more.
Tim
Um, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah.
Scott
I.
Stuart
Um, so like I I said quite a few chapters ago like they keep banging this lewis span drum for for a while but I'm getting the feeling that this is going to be the final showdown of this book because it is a trilogy right? So sluis van I'm guessing is the the big showdown at the you know, chapter 30 or thirty one and then 32 we get the.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott
E.
Stuart
Kind of like oh well, what's the future going to look like well I'm going to have to write another book about that. Ah so yes, Lewis Van is probably.
Tim
Um, yeah, and Theron was mad.
Kyle
You know that that's another thing I keep forgetting of this is a chelogy and I'm sure it's a plan chey and like he being like I wish they were just give him more information but it's like and there this 2 more that we all read yes, the more books that he's trying to fill out here.
Stuart
A.
Stuart
Yeah, um, this is ah, there's also an overarching plan to restore the empire So you know rum wasn't built in the day got to really yeah set all your mcguffins out for.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, no.
Kyle
Is it was so again I hear forgetting this throne wants to restore the empire and he wants to beat it.
Stuart
A.
Scott
I Imagine so.
Stuart
Yeah, yeah I can't see who else would be the emperor unless there's going to be like a cloning situation which.
Scott
Are.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, cloning and Star Wars now now.
Kyle
Ah, cloning seems to look for our heads.
Scott
Now Not all I mean they did it before the Clo attack and the clones they do it and freaking legends with Saba off. So it's like it's like oh.
Kyle
A.
Tim
Um, right? yeah one one simple line and a new hope about the clone wars and we get. Yeah yeah.
Stuart
Yeah.
Scott
And they even mentioned the Clone Wars in yeah, exactly and they just went wild with it.
Stuart
Okay, so the the dark empire is in 10 a b y which is the next year after this. So maybe thronean has well the dark empire was the emperor got.
Tim
No.
Kyle
I Don't know what that is.
Stuart
Cloned and he says that he has like an essence transfer or something of a sith ritual that puts his soul into the new um into the new body but he is still gaining power inside the galactic core and so there was a big. Ah I can't remember if it was a trilogy or something but it was um, a set of comics and it was the first comics that I actually read in star wars and it was so difficult because I wasn't used to the um like the language of how time ah passes in comics and so it felt really.
Scott
Are.
Tim
Oh.
Scott
Are.
Stuart
Like condensed and all these information was coming out over so quickly that I can't say that I particularly enjoyed it. But um, but I do want to go back and reread it because it was quite um, quite good. Actually.
Stuart
Ah.
Tim
Yeah I'll let's check it out at some point.
Scott
Um.
Stuart
Star Wars The duck empire. Yeah, and so the um, the emperor comes back as a coin and is fighting from the center of the ah center of the.
Tim
Really.
Stuart
Galaxy rather than coming in from the outside. Um, because apparently the deep core is very hard to get to because there's a lot of gravitational anomalies and stuff like that and ah.
Tim
That's a cool concept I feel like we go to the outer rim too often Sometimes yeah, no, but that's that's really cool that like the idea of the deep core being incredibly hard to navigate.
Stuart
Yeah.
Kyle
Um, let's go to tattooing again like this.
Scott
Um, or a tattooing clone like Jack.
Tim
Because of all those forces I like that a lot.
Scott
Who.
Stuart
Let me even in our own Universe. There's um, in our own milky way galaxy that we've got the supermassive black hole at Center and then we've got ah huge stellar nurseries. There as Well. So stars are being born and dying all the time that there's just so much radiation that you know it'll be extremely inhospipitable.
Tim
Nice.
Scott
Are.
Tim
God's face is so cool and.
Scott
Um, it is yeah.
Stuart
So yeah and it makes sense that within the story that that would be a place where you know radiation Gravity Supernovas make it very un economical to even venture that way.
Tim
So that's why his skin is so bad.
Stuart
So maybe thran knows that the emperor is trying to come back. So he's laying the groundwork for for the dark empire to emerge and take back the Eu Galaxy
Scott
Are he are.
Tim
I'll make a lot of sense because Theron doesn't seem like someone that wants to be an emperor to me I think he enjoys the challenge of war I think he enjoys the game. Yeah.
Stuart
No yeah.
Scott
Um, yeah I think he always wants to be maybe just a Grand admiral.
Stuart
Oh.
Tim
I think he would get really bored in peacetime. He joins a he joins a chess club and gets like really really into it.
Stuart
Up.
Scott
Just club. Yeah.
Kyle
Where.
Stuart
That or is going to start his own um his own rebellion in ah, an alternate timeline thrown as the ah the leader of a rebellion against a you know peaceful empire.
Scott
Um, yeah.
Scott
Um, or maybe he'll start his own podcast.
Tim
Ah, that that's honestly hilarious thought all right I conquered the galaxy with this empire now time to take it down.
Stuart
Um, yeah.
Scott
Um, and.
Kyle
Um, yeah.
Stuart
He.
Tim
All right? So we end up leaving this chapter with Mara and Luke back to that lights saber moment. Yeah, and um I believe Theron mentions he's gonna be sticking around a bit.
Scott
Are.
Stuart
Ah, yeah.
Stuart
Does he I'm not actually sure what throne is doing there.
Scott
Um, yeah.
Kyle
That what he I don't I don't think he says it I don't I think he says that in the next chapter that he's gonna be. They're gonna have to say it around but I don't think he actually mentions it to car or anything I think he's just talking to his.
Tim
Okay, yeah, and.
Kyle
So boarding it being like yeah we're gonna have to hang our arm for a few days and wait for them to come out of the jungle.
Scott
Are.
Stuart
Um, yeah, yes I'm I'm not actually sure if he's showing up just to put pressure on card since he said that he wouldn't help with the Luke Skywalker investigation
Scott
Um, so.
Stuart
But yeah.
Tim
The.
Scott
Are.
Tim
Yeah I like how things are converging now I'm interested to continue exploring those in the next chapter? yeah.
Scott
Um, yeah yeah I do like that I like the the new adventure with Mara and Luke you know through the forest I think that's.
Stuart
Yeah.
Stuart
E.
Scott
And think that's interesting and I think it's going to be cool me.
Tim
Yeah, it is actually a pretty refreshing change of pace because everything's just been like thriller espionage on the run stuff and now it's ah bare grills in space. Yeah.
Stuart
Yeah, um.
Stuart
Big girls in space and hopefully a bit of character development say.
Kyle
And.
Scott
Um.
Tim
yeah yeah I mean we started seeing some cracks in Mara in this chapter started. Yeah mars bear krills yeah.
Scott
Band girls with somebody wants to shoot him.
Stuart
Yeah, but no, no Mara is bad girls.
Scott
Um, ah right? yeah Luke Whiton last 10 minutes out here right? Yeah because he thinks he can master everything.
Kyle
Um, yeah.
Tim
No, but not especially not without the force. Yeah yeah, okay.
Stuart
Um, ah Nah No certainly not.
Scott
Without the force and then he crashes.
Stuart
Doesn't realize how much he's leaning on that Q crayo.
Tim
Yeah.
Scott
Um.
Scott
All right? So I Guess that's I guess that's the end of chapter 23 This has been the lost Holocron. You can find transcripts links to discussions and more at our website lostholoron.com while you are there and you can learn how you can support the creation of future episodes. Read on and we'll be waiting for you in the next transmission read on and we'll be waiting for you in the next transmission we would be honored if you would join us.