News

• Jim and I are doing the second annual Gingerbread Challenge in Walt Disney World, starting Friday December 2, 2022.  

• We’re doing a live podcast recording on December 2.  Tickets available at https://touringplans.com/2022-disney-dish-tp

• I’m speaking at IAAPA (Int’l Ass of Amusement Parks and Attractions) in Orlando on November 18.

• People have been spotted riding Tron LIghtcycle/Run at the Magic Kingdom.  

• To put that in perspective, ride testing started on Guardians in December of 2020, and that opened ~6 months later, in May 2022.  
• Because this is an outdoor coaster, we have a bit more visibility into testing (assuming they’re not conducting the bulk of it at night, which they might not for safety reasons).  
• Jim, as you know, it has to go through this initial feasibility testing, then a test-and-adjust phase, then a burn-in phase where they run it continuously to simulate actual park operations and track actual downtime

• That last phase is conducted by park ops, and is formally tracked by park ops.  For Guardians of the Galaxy, that started around the second week of March, 2022, or about 12 weeks before official opening.

• Tron has not yet been handed over to park ops
• Guardians was an all-new ride concept, where Tron is similar to Shanghai, so maybe they can reduce that 12 weeks a bit.
• Even if that hand-off happened today, a similar schedule puts us around the middle of November.  So that might be the earliest time at which the attraction could open.
• I’ve been saying December 1 for a while now, and I still think that’s ballpark.
• We’ll know more when Disney PR sends out its “save-the-date” emails to media.

• A new version of the Magic Kingdom’s Enchantment fireworks show debuted last week.  The show has added clips at the beginning that feature Walt himself, as well as Roy O. Disney, and the show’s intro now closes with Mickey Mouse saying “You are the magic.”

• You know, Jim, Disney’s been doing after-hours testing at the Magic Kingdom of Happily Ever After fireworks and audio for weeks now.  You have to believe this isn’t the end of changes for Enchantment.  And while I don’t think it’s going to happen, I would absolutely not be surprised if HEA comes back at some point.  It’s just rated higher than Enchantment.

• Disney updated its park reservation system last week.  According to our friends over at WDWMagic.com, here are the changes:

• Guests with an existing Disney Park Pass reservation can now modify the date and Park without canceling and making a new reservation.
• All guests, regardless of ticket type, now use the same Park Pass reservation system. Previously, multiple systems were being used, producing an inconsistent experience.
• Guests can now book Park Pass reservations for up to 30 guests, previously limited to 12.
• Park Pass reservations are now associated with a ticket, not a guest. This change means a guest can have a Park Pass reservation for different tickets they may hold, such as a single-day ticket and an annual pass. Previously, this required multiple profiles within a single My Disney Experience account, leading to a complicated error-prone setup.

Surveys

Listener Questions

From Rebecca:

Thank you for all of the geeky data and the interesting history.  I am planning our families first trip to the World in October 2022, and am curious about your take on whether Fantasmic will be open by then.  If so, which nights do you predict it will be performed on (I have tentatively planned park reservations, but will adjust based on your advice). thanks so much from a dedicated Canadian listener.  

Len: I know it’s only about 5 weeks away at this point, but I have to think it’ll come back for October 1.

Jennifer had a similar question:

We are visiting WDW the first week of November 2022. What are the chances that Fantasmic! will be back up and showing by that time? Any indications they will be offering preferred seating with certain restaurant reservations?

And here’s something interesting from Dave, with a possible explanation as to why it’s difficult to get Space 220 reservations:

Dave writes: There is apparently this sub-culture of people who snag all the Disney reservations they can, then trade them for either other reservations or just to be loved. There are Facebook groups for just this process. As if it wasn’t already hard enough to tour the parks.

Len: Here’s an example of one person holding 14 Space 220 reservations over 2 random days in October, for a total of 65 people.

Disney Patents

Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant

Disneyland Lessee-related feature piece

Since we’ve gotten such strong reaction to previous “Disney Dishes” where Len & I talked about original Disneyland lessees like Swift Meats (who sponsored the Red Wagon Inn at the Park, which was the precursor to Disneyland’s Plaza Inn Restaurants) and Monsanto (who sponsor the Hall of Chemistry AND the House of the Future), I thought that we’d take a moment to shine a spotlight on another company that helped make up the original 48 lessees at Disneyland.

Want to stress here that – when Disneyland first opened in July of 1955 – the Park did have 48 lessees. A number of those were short-lived outfits like Hollywood Maxwell’s Intimate Apparel Shop and the BlueBird Shoes for Children Shop that came & went within the first few years that Disneyland was operational. By 1966 / 1967, the number of lessees that the Park had had shrunk down by nearly a third.  To 33, to be exact.

That’s an interesting number, Len. 33. Seems significant for some reason. Can’t place why, though.

Anyway, the Disneyland lessee that I’d like to talk about today is the Van Camp Seafood Company.  And that’d largely because – some 67 years ago (August 29, 1955, to be exact), the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant (the quick service restaurant that Van Camp Seafood sponsored at the Park) first opened for business.

Kind of appropriate that Van Camp Seafood came to sponsor a restaurant at Disneyland. After all, this fish canning company actually got its start some 95 miles to the south of Anaheim in San Diego, California back in May of 1914. Founded by Frank Van Camp & his son Gilbert. And as for that “Chicken of the Sea” thing … That was a bit of branding Van Camp embraced back in 1930. You see, the type of tuna that they initially specialized in canning (i.e., white albacore) was acclaimed for its mild flavor & color. “Tastes like chicken” = “Chicken of the Sea.”

By 1952, Van Camp Seafood further refined their brand by introducing the Company’s icon: Catalina the Mermaid.

Interesting side note: If Catalina the Mermaid looks kind of familiar to all you Trekkies out there … Well, there’s a good reason for that. Grace Lee Whitney – who played Yeoman Rand on the original “Star Trek” television series – was actually the inspiration for Van Camp Seafood’s corporate icon.

We jump ahead now to February of 1953, which is when Walt Disney Studios releases its feature-length animated version of “Peter Pan” (which is based on J.M. Barrie’s 1904 play about “The Boy Who Wouldn’t Grow Up”). This animated feature includes a scene where Peter takes Wendy Darling to Mermaid Lagoon. Where those mermaids then try to drown Wendy. I guess Catalina hangs out with a rough crowd.

Jump ahead to 1954. Walt is looking to lock in sponsors for his new family fun park. And Disney’s animated version of “Peter Pan” is still very front of mind. Which is why – when Disney representatives reach out to Van Camp Seafoods to ask if this fish canning company would be willing to sponsor some sort of attraction at Disneyland – Frank & his son Gilbert are interested.

The Van Camps do have some conditions, though. As part of whatever their Company sponsors at Disneyland, this shop, restaurant or attraction has to prominently feature Catalina the Mermaid, the Chicken of the Sea icon.

The folks at Disney go away for a bit to ponder this proposition … and then eventually come back with a proposal for the Van Camp family. What about a restaurant that’s also an attraction? As in: The Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant.

This massive structure – we’re talking 79 feet long and 80 feet tall (That includes the ship’s three masts. Which were each 60 feet tall) – was to be a recreation of the Jolly Roger, Captain Hook’s ship from Disney’s animated version of “Peter Pan.” Guests would have the opportunity to board this vessel and explore the upper deck. Below decks, there’d be a quick service restaurant that only served food items that could be made with Van Camp Seafood products. We’re talking:

    • A Tuna Sandwich

    • A Tuna Burger

    • A Tuna Pie served in a Pastry Shell

    • A Tuna Boat Salad

    • A Tuna Clipper Salad (a clipper is a slightly bigger boat)

    • Shrimp Cocktail (Van Camp Seafood also sold canned shrimp)

    • and Fruit Tart with Whipped Cream (which must have had a little tuna in it)

Reminds me of that Monty Python bit. “It’s only got some spam in it. Spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans & spam.”)

Frank & Gilbert Van Camp loved this idea. Even so, it took a while for Van Cap Seafood & Walt Disney Productions to negotiate the final contract. Not to mention draw up the construction blueprints for this Fantasyland restaurant / attraction. I’ve seen a set of these blueprints that Fred Stoos (he was one of the original construction coordinators on the Disneyland project) drew up that are dated May 7, 1955.

That’s basically 10 weeks before Disneyland first opens to the public. So as soon as those blueprints were signed off on, they immediately began building the Jolly Roger out behind the park’s lumber mill. Which – after the Park was completed – this building would then become the Main Street Opera House.

The ship itself was built out of Douglas Fir. And as for this pirate ship’s trim, that was genuine mahogany which had been shipped in from Honduras.

Now remember that condition that Frank & Gilbert Van Camp insisted upon? That Disneyland’s Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant had to feature their company’s icon – Catalina the Mermaid – in some way?

Disney honored this sponsorship condition by making Catalina the Jolly Roger’s figurehead. Chris Mueller (who sculpted all of the animals that Guests saw on Disneyland’s “Jungle Cruise.” Not to mention the giant squid in Disney Studio’s “20,000 Leagues Under the Sea” film. In addition to creating “The Creature from the Black Lagoon” for Universal Pictures’ 1954 film of the same name) not only created that beautiful 6-foot-tall piece, Mueller also sculpted an enormous piece for this ship’s stern. Which replicated the way Catalina the Mermaid was depicted on each can of “Chicken of the Sea” tuna. With Catalina seated atop her shell throne which is then borne on the back of a giant sea turtle. Beautiful piece.

Remember how this pirate ship restaurant was quickly being built backstage at Disneyland out behind that park’s lumber mill? When it came time for this building to finally be moved into place over in Fantasyland … Well, remember how the Jolly Roger flew in Disneyland’s animated version of “Peter Pan” ? This structure flew as well. It was lifted by a construction crane over all of those still-under-construction Tomorrowland buildings and then dropped into place behind the Park’s Mad Tea Party flat ride.

The only problem was … The night before that “Dateline: Disneyland” special aired live on ABC, Walt realized that he was running out of time & money. And the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant (while it was now in its proper place in the Park) was still unpainted. And if the Van Camp family saw the restaurant / attraction that they’d paid for show up on live television looking like that, Frank & Gilbert would be furious.

Walt’s solution to this not-enough-time / not-enough-money problem was kind of ingenious. He only had his painters paint the side of the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant that faced into the Park (i.e. the side that would appear on camera). Walt then had a bunch of Disney Studios employees placed on deck. When the cameras came on, these folks rushed to the rail and then wave frantically towards the camera. That way, no one would notice that the props or rigging on this ship weren’t in place either.

This trick worked. The Jolly Roger looked great on camera. And just so you know: It would take another six weeks of hard work after the “Dateline: Disneyland” TV special aired before the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant was finally ready to serve food / begin entertaining Disneyland Guests.

This eatery became so popular with Disneyland Guests that … Well, after Walt finally wrestled ABC’s partial ownership of the Park away from that broadcast company in June of 1960 (He had to pay that company $7.5 million for its one third ownership of the Park) … One of the very first things Disney did was to create a secondary seating area for this Fantasyland eatery.

Here’s how that expansion project was described in the October – November 1960 issue of the “Disneylander” (i.e., the park’s employee newsletter back then):

This article’s headline read: “Pirate Ship To Have New And Exotic Setting”

And here’s a quote from this piece:

“By the time you read this, you’ll be aware that the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship is closed for extensive rehab. It is scheduled to reopen about December 15th. Isolated by craggy cliffs covered with lush tropical foliage will be ‘Pirate’s Cove,’ where the Park’s well known Pirate Ship resides at anchor. WED designers have included in their plans the familiar landmark of Skull Rock from the Peter Pan story with three waterfalls cascading from rocky heights.”

Construction of Pirate’s Cove & Skull Rock actually took a little longer than expected. This Fantasyland addition wouldn’t open ‘til just before Christmas. December 23, 1960, to be exact.

The folks at Van Camp Seafood initially seemed very pleased with their association with Disneyland Park. They renewed their original sponsorship agreement with the Park in 1962 for another seven year-long lease. Unfortunately, in 1963, Frank & Gilbert sold their fish canning company to Ralston Purina. And when the sponsorship contract for the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant came up for renewal in 1969, Ralston Purina opted out.

Disneyland management responded to this loss of sponsor by changing the name of this Fantasyland restaurant from The Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant to Captain Hook’s Galley. They also made minor tweaks to the ship’s figurehead and the giant stern piece so that the mermaids there no longer looked just like Catalina, Chicken of the Sea’s corporate icon.

We now jump ahead to the Fall of 1981. Work has just begun on Disneyland’s New Fantasyland. Which – when this side of the Park re-opens in the Summer of 1983 – will feature all-new versions of Disneyland’s classic dark rides like “Snow White’s Scary Adventures” & “Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride” featuring then-state-of-the-art effects like fiber optics & digital sound.

Among the changes that are in the works for this side of the Park is that the ship that houses Captain Hook’s Galley is once again going to be lifted by a crane. Only this time, it’s going to be lifted over a 100 feet or so that this full-sized pirate ship could then became the finale of Disneyland’s Storybook Canal Boat Ride. The canal boats – after floating by all of those miniaturized recreations of settings from famous Disney films – would now find themselves, in the final moments of this ride, right alongside of the Jolly Roger.

The plan here was to first take Chris Mueller’s two mermaid sculptures off of the old Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant and then take them backstage to be restored. Then the pirate ship would be hoisted into its new location at the edge of Small World Plaza. Whereupon the load / unload area for the Storybook Canal Boats Ride would be expanded to create a new lagoon space that this pirate ship could be anchored in.

I was also told that the Chicken of the Sea restaurant space below decks was to have been changed into a pirates-themed juice bar.

This was the plan anyway. Unfortunately, after those two mermaid pieces were carefully pried off of the bow & the stern of Captain Hook’s Galley, the forklift that was taking both of these pieces backstage made a sudden stop. The mermaid pieces then fell off and shattered to smithereens.

Worse that that: When the New Fantasyland construction crew went to go arrange the harnesses needed for that construction crane to hoist this pirate ship to its new location, they discovered that the old Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant (which -- remember -- was built out of Douglas Fir and featured trim made of genuine Honduran mahogany) was riddled with termites. Long story short: This structure would have fallen to splinters as soon as it was hoisted aloft.

As a direct result, the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant was left right where it was until a demolition team could come along and pull this ship-shaped structure down. Disneyland’s new Dumbo the Flying Elephant ride was then erected where the Jolly Roger once stood.

Worth noting that the Jolly Roger -- as well as Pirate Cove & Skull Rock -- live on. Only at a different Disney theme park. When the Imagineers opted to build Adventure Isle at Disneyland Paris in the early 1990s, they included a full-sized pirate ship that was then placed at anchor in front of a large-ish version of Skull Rock. And inside of this pirate ship, you’ll find yet another Captain Hook’s Galley. This one’s a counter-service restaurant. Not a pirate-themed juice bar.

Just so you know: If you’re a Disneyland completist and wonder what it was like to actually dine at the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant, if you Google “Disneyland Tuna Burger,” you can find a number of recipes online that will then allow you to replicate this signature item from the menu of this now-gone-for-nearly-40-years restaurant.

Me personally, given that whole everything-served-here-must-make-use-of-items-that-Van-Camp-Seafood-makes-or-sells condition, I still have to wonder just how much tuna there was in that one dessert item the Chicken of the Sea Pirate Ship Restaurant sold. Which was the fruit tart with whipped cream.

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