Stuart
Hello there. You've found the lost holocron an ancient artifact of lore and legends from a galaxy far far away each transmission of the lost holocron. You will join an episodic discussion of media from the stars universe we will be your guides Tim Kyle Scott and I'm Stuart. We'll be covering material up to and including chapter 12 of air of the empire. So kya what happened so far.
Kyle
After two foiled kidnappings on diplomatic missions, Leia Organa-Solo and Han Solo suspect a leak inside the New Republic government. They head to the Athega system to find Lando to get his help outside New Republic jurisdiction.
Meanwhile, Luke Skywalker has been training Leia to be the first of the new generation of Jedi while struggling with self-doubt as the teacher needed to rebuild the Order. On a hunch he travels to Dagobah, hoping to find something left behind by Master Yoda. Ultimately disappointed, Luke recovers a nondescript gadget from the Dark Side Cave, but suspects Lando can help with deciphering the script written on the side.
Meanwhile, Grand Admiral Thrawn’s schemes are coming to a head as he has allied himself with Master Joruus C’baoth, clone and Dark Jedi. Captain Pelleaon devises a plan to disseminate information that might lure Luke to C’baoth instead of sending more noghri to capture him.
Finally, Mara Jade has apprenticed to the smuggler Talon Karrde as they play cat-and-mouse to tease information out of each other.
Kyle
Tim, What's going on in the chapter?
Tim
The Millennium Falcon arrives in the Athega system with Han and Leia looking to meet with Lando. Luke arrives at just the right time for them to take the slow sublight trip to the inter system since neither the Falcon nor Luke's X-Wing have slave circuits needed to precisely co-ordinate inbound ships with their shielding escort.
Once at Nkllon, though, the Empire shows up suddenly. Bad timing or are they being tracked?
Tim
I think they're being tracked. How about you guys.
Scott
Um, who I don't know I I I don't think so I think it's just a really strange coincidence but it does kind of feel a little too convenient.
Kyle
Um, if you.
Stuart
Yeah I feel like it's a little bit of the the force works in mysterious ways because as I mentioned at the end of the last recording the athega system was mentioned by thran as a place that they wanted to go before it's come up that Han and laya and Luke are trying to find Lando here.
Scott
Are.
Tim
Um, yeah I think Asron works in mysterious ways. Personally that's a very good question.
Scott
Or Zon works in mysterious ways. Yeah.
Stuart
Do you think he's bugged the falcon or.
Tim
Maybe he left the device. Maybe the device is a tracking device I don't know maybe he has spies Luke's device yeah, yeah who who knows honestly but I believe thran would find a way.
Stuart
Um, Luke's Luke's device ah
Kyle
Frisman. I was thinking about I was thinking about that this chapter and I know Thorn's just being c incredibly intelligent is I wonder if he thinks this is worth it. He's putting a lot of effort into this. I mean I feel like he could I know I guess he's just super into the empire then right like if he's so intelligent he he if he wanted to think of something better to do clearly he thinks this is the best option.
Stuart
I Don I feel like I might have mentioned before but like thran's plans have dual and ah I'm not sure what triple might be with those words dual or triple meanings behind them because as with the raid on. On the fache he was using that both as a testing ground for sabay off he was using it to enforce the chain of command he was using it to also draw out the new republic away from slu van that we know is his. Next target almost so it's not like anything that he does has multiple layers to it and he also has contingencies for those so I don't feel like he does I feel like he gets a lot of return for all of the operations that he puts out because it's not just one reward. It's. 3 rewards or 5 rewards or yeah, he's getting multiple dividends from his investment.
Tim
He's a 5 D Chess player. Yeah yeah. Um, yeah.
Tim
Yeah I don't know about you guys. But nick 1 is such a cool planet concept I really really liked it. It have you guys seen the movie sunshine.
Kyle, Stuart
No
Tim
Um, it's a sci-fi movie from 2007 with Killian Murphy Chris Evans Michelle Yoh Mark Strong it's really freaking. Awesome. It's I mean it's just about like a trip to of astronauts going to the sun. There are multiple sequences throughout it where. Need to be shielded from the sun so they themselves don't burn up and this reminded me a lot of that with how close the sun is for them and so. Yeah, yeah, that's what it is? Yeah yeah.
Stuart
Although what what was there? Ah what was there? ah concept for reigniting the sun. Ah.
Tim
Ah, probably something do with global warming or climate change. Yeah I don't know it's been a bit since I seen the movies I don't remember that much I I Just remember really tense sequences where like a little bit of sun will get through and someone will start like burning up. Yeah.
Stuart
Now.
Tim
And so um to see that not lifted to this. But oh no.
Kyle
Um, and I go he messages Justin me and he was like hey you guys are frozen.
Stuart
Okay, we'll we'll we'll change this up.
Tim
Ah, bad. Yeah.
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Scott
Where.
Tim
Ah, yeah, Tom is who we should send to meet the aliens be the ambassador for the human race.
Stuart
Ah, okay.
Scott
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the he's the only guy.
Kyle
Um, depends on who the aliens are if it's the repils I don't want it maybe the grays or the tall whites. They're pretty virant. Ah.
Tim
Who should we send for the reptilians.
Stuart
Check norris.
Tim
Now Chuck and Chuck Norris is their agent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh goodnesss and know.
Scott
Mark Zuckerberg he fits right in there. He its right in Mark Zuckerberg is an a he said reptilian alien or Mitch Mcconnell he's definitely an alien. He's definitely a lizard alien.
Kyle
Mike Dason
Stuart
That anyway speaking of chewy getting his first lines we get we get Landau's first lines as well. However, we get Lando blocked before we can get landow. There's a giant invasion.
Scott
Um.
Tim
Woo. Yes. I Know why does he think we want action.
Kyle
Look guys. All we want is some mando some hot chocolate.
Scott
Um.
Scott
Cold 45
Tim
Cult 45 yeah yeah
Stuart
Ah, man so looking forward to seeing Lando for a while wonder is gonna come in but now. Ah yeah I really hope nothing happens to his operation though because they've tied together something that's.
Scott
Um, hello there.
Tim
Yeah I mean just yeah yeah.
Scott
Um, yeah, those those mole miners are looking pretty tasty right? there a.
Kyle
Now I think I think that thing is [blaster]ed I think I think all of their [blaster] are about to get erect.
Stuart
Seems very precarious.
Tim
Yeah, yeah.
Stuart
Of.
Kyle
I Think this is about to be a show of force that they have to run from.
Tim
Button. Yeah dear yeah.
Stuart
Okay, yeah, quite possibly. Although it ah looks pretty handy in an X wing. So I wonder if he's going to like.
Scott
Um, yeah, when he has an empty bladder. Um.
Kyle
I see I guess it depends on wife's throne is there because maybe he just wants to grab them and run because this is the third amber they've had to try to capture these people.
Scott
Um, it.
Tim
It just scoops them up and zips out.
Stuart
Yeah, I'm not sure it's a capture thing because Thrn wanted mole miners and in this chapter ah Hahn explains to layer what a mole miner is as well. So I think it's a resource raid.
Scott
Like peace.
Tim
Oh that would make sense. The.
Kyle
Oh and that they just happen to be there.
Stuart
Um, yeah, we do get a lot.
Scott
Um, Kyleler I hope you're not tying a belt for a specific reason there. Do.
Tim
Yeah, because I was getting a little concerned too.
Kyle
How what's up.
Scott
Um, if he starts making a couple loops through that thing I'm like ah.
Tim
Ah, we were what's going in those loops. Okay, cool are are be that boring.
Kyle
Um, now it's good. Don't worry about it. What I do after this podcast is not your damn but no, it just keeps falling.
Scott
Um.
Tim
Ah, ah, no.
Scott
Ah, don't give our listener date Kyle don't give our listeners any ideas. Okay.
Kyle
I also keep [blaster]ing with it look guys I can't remember his name but the guy who played Bell on killbell we all know what happened to him. Yes, actually I've been joking.
Scott
Um, David Carroing yeah and the lead singer of in excess.
Stuart
Um, ah.
Kyle
David Care again is a cover up because every because because the story was sent out that he killed himself that way. But if you actually look into it. No because both of his hands were tied up.
Scott
Um, oh.
Tim
Oh what.
Stuart
Wait once.
Scott
Um, who could be in a Bruce Lee type thing who.
Stuart
Um, ah.
Stuart
Ah.
Kyle
And he was in like a sketchy part of I want to say Korea.
Scott
Are.
Tim
Well.
Kyle
Feel free to edit this out but I'm the same like everyone's like oh yeah, David care again. He.
Scott
Um, now this is death this is going on the Patreon exclusive this is the patron exclusive topic.
Stuart
Um, nobody will know. Ah.
Tim
Ah, yeah, ah, how do we even get that.
Kyle
I don't need I I don't know a lot about star wars but I know we're not about David care again.
Scott
Um, he knows a lot about celebrity famous celebrity Suicide Cover ups.
Stuart
Ah, ah.
Tim
Suddenly we're a Tarantino podcast.
Scott
5 finger death punch that is like those are both great movies. Yeah, those are both amazing movies.
Kyle
It's a great movie next episode's gonna be on kill bill.
Tim
Yeah, and so.
Stuart
And so if we're gonna yeah, cutting back to where the edit It's actually going to get in I think it makes a lot of sense that we believe that um that it's.
Scott
Um, backed carver away.
Kyle
Um.
Stuart
Ah, trap or something because that's Han's perspective and layer's perspective so far they feel like they've been hounded and they might be bugged and they're trying to escape being bugged and they're being very careful not to broadcast themselves on the ah to the whole system in the communication.
Tim
Um, yeah.
Tim
Yes.
Scott
And in.
Stuart
So it makes a lot of sense that they believe that it's um, you know, um, some sort of like shadow work at at play. But I think it really is a case of um, just wrong place wrong time.
Tim
Yeah, yeah.
Stuart
Ah, right place right? time for throne.
Kyle
I Do I do feel for sure that the next chapter is going to be from Dawn's perspective or just I mean well empire perspective.
Scott
E O A.
Tim
That would be really fun I would enjoy that.
Stuart
Um, oh.
Stuart
If you don't be really annoying though is that we jump to Mara Jade and talent card doing nothing again.
Tim
Stop it right now Stewart I do not want that to happen the book is being rewritten as you speak and.
Scott
There be.
Scott
Um, let me flip my pages let me flip my pages. Yeah, to me these ons like oh wait a minute.
Kyle
Um.
Stuart
Ah.
Stuart
Yeah, no I hate I Hate those books where it's like you make a very obvious setup to like put yourself in the middle of the action and like like you you you said about the roller coast to going over the Hill and um, then the author just cuts to something completely uninteresting. It's like.
Tim
Ah, yeah.
Stuart
I didn't even care that this was part of the book. Get back to the characters that I want to talk about and then I've had the experience I can't remember which book it was though that that would happen so frequently that when you actually get back to the chapter that you think you were you were excited for that. It was.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Stuart
It was a whole like dummy play and turns out that it was like a misunderstanding or like you get to this like high pinnacle of of tension and then it's completely diffused every time you go back there and you're like I don't want to talk about this character. Go to the tension that you set up just now.
Scott
Are.
Scott
Are.
Scott
Yeah, yeah, hyperion did that a little bit. Yeah, but yeah occasionally, but it was okay, still amazing Books There's a whole amazing series. But yeah.
Tim
Looking at you twilight with the yeah yeah.
Kyle
And.
Stuart
Ah.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and did anyone else find it hilarious that they positively identified Luke by having three po speak to r two over the cons.
Stuart
But yes I have high high expectations for ah this too. Yeah.
Stuart
Um, ah yeah.
Kyle
Ah.
Scott
They're like yeah they're like they're like yeah they're like a married couple just bickering back and forth at each other.
Tim
Yeah, yep, that's it. Ah yeah.
Stuart
Um, or although like doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of saying hey where this is Han and Lea that anybody who knows c three p and r two d two like they're going to know that they're with.
Scott
Um, yeah, right in this case. Yes.
Stuart
Luke and Hahn and Leah right? I mean to a tactician like thorn. But maybe they don't know that.
Tim
Would they are drits that important. Fair, Yeah, yeah, that's a good question.
Scott
Unless R two is just a decoy.
Kyle
I just realize I just realized how how disappointing that Han and le I were like you. It's getting low to intenseio. Let's let's go the middle of nowhere and just like lay low for a minute and as soon as they get there. It's alag.
Stuart
Throat.
Scott
Um, like Surprise mother[blaster].
Kyle
Is the [blaster]ing the destroyer and.
Tim
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah, ah, that's okay I made the effect for that reason.
Stuart
Ah.
Scott
Sorry I'll have to edit that up I know it turned out great. This is the first uncensored it is on our end. Anyway, it's.
Stuart
Ah.
Kyle
Like I said this is the first unscripted episode of the last holocaust and.
Tim
I Got yeah see yeah.
Stuart
The um.
Scott
Um, the the lost holocron after hours.
Tim
This is.
Stuart
Although I The reason that I think thatronn might be able to identify is is is he's studying all the art of the the Heroes of of ah what was ah the Heroes of endor that like in the background. He's just like.
Scott
The ewalks.
Stuart
He sees them these blue and Golden droids. They keep showing up in all this like the Golden God Yeah, that just like he's finding them in the background of a bunch of memes and so it's like those people who who try to identify people on the internet.
Tim
All right? The Golden God Yeah so.
Scott
Yeah, yeah.
Tim
Or or in C three Po's case he's the centerpiece and everyone else's the background.
Scott
Um.
Scott
Um, yeah.
Stuart
Right is that guy on um on Tiktok who can tell you how tall you are based on just like whatever's in your background thrn is just that guy of like well I can cross referenceference all of these things just based on the things in the background of these.
Kyle
Oh God that guy.
Scott
Ah, right.
Stuart
These images that I'm getting of the propaganda like oh when.
Tim
I don't think gosh. Yeah, so yeah, maybe Leah should have thought better but hey I worked out. It was actually Luke.
Stuart
Yeah.
Tim
Ah.
Stuart
Yeah, oh yeah I guess I guess that could have been. That's what I didn't consider as the problem I thought they weren't trying to ah communicate with everybody else in the system. They would not trying to blow that cover but rather get a positive idea on each other was I.
Scott
Um I.
Stuart
Yeah I guess it's I didn't think about it like that.
Tim
Yeah, no, they they were pretty feeling pretty shaken up from the Decoy falcon.
Stuart
Um, right? okay.
Scott
Um, yeah, and I think Han at this point is still hard finds. It hard to believe that they found another YT 1300
Tim
Yeah.
Stuart
Right now and now they're able to deep fake ah Luke's voice
Scott
He's probably thinking to himself. Wow I Wonder what kind of parts I can scalp off that thing seems like the what the falcon always needs some kind of repairs.
Tim
Ah.
Tim
He turns out there's just a little high pitched mouse deepfaking Luke.
Kyle
And.
Scott
Um, yeah.
Tim
Ah.
Stuart
Um, ah what those little mouse people that you ah talked to in um, Lill republic too.
Tim
Um, oh yeah, what are they called.
Scott
Um, which in in what again, what what game is Bob.
Kyle
Oh There's jam and Pale. Add to the old Republic to.
Stuart
Um, yeah, like um.
Scott
Um, oh I say haven't got that far yet I'm still stuck on I think corruban and knights are were probably 1 coour 1 No, they're definitely not mo like yeah.
Tim
Let's see what was it? No, it wasn't weak way.
Stuart
Now The weak wayss are the um ah the rough skins typing mouse I get a lot of like people who are wanting to invert their mouse in the controls.
Tim
Right? right.
Scott
Mouse Light check.
Scott
Um, ah and be lucky. That's what you're getting considers of um, what am I thinking of.
Tim
The here.
Stuart
Um.
Stuart
All done. Okay, non-human race isn't always in you.
Scott
Um, Bothins boins are like beavers or something they're like like cap and baras. Um.
Stuart
Is a jijek car is the is the bar right.
Tim
All right? Yes, that's the bar but I'm looking I'm on Wikipedia and I'm at appearances and creatures no wait. They're not creatures. They are species.
Scott
Um.
Stuart
Ah.
Tim
This is sent species.
Tim
I'm not going to sleep until I find this out. But.
Kyle
The now is it The paradogue.
Stuart
I Don't think so I yeah I'm looking at what do you say? characters creatures not sentient species and what is it.
Scott
Um, at you.
Tim
Ascension species.
Kyle
The work The arcata.
Stuart
Um, no.
Tim
No, that would be very scary. It doesn't seem like it's a listed chetra fan.
Scott
Um, no, they're not. They're not rousely. Yeah.
Stuart
Um, it's Chadra fan I'm pretty sure as a chadra fan. Yeah.
Tim
Cool there. We go.
Stuart
Chaddar fan was short rodent-like humanoids usually no more than one metre tall with a bat-like face and they hail from the watery planet of chat.
Scott
Was that the guy. Okay, so remember and I think it's a new hope where you're where we see the bar seeing like 1 of them's like reaching for a drink the bat like face. Yes, right? right? right.
Stuart
Yeah, yeah, yeah I think one of these appears in in you hope.
Tim
I Never made that connection. Yeah, it is yeah.
Scott
Are a.
Stuart
Their appearances are long and numerous.
Kyle
Man and steart's going to explain them all right now.
Tim
Wow. Okay, yes, ah right? So we got a cool planet got a big old sun Shield got.
Stuart
Oh.
Scott
Um.
Scott
Um, and we got a city built on 1880 s and the 1880 s thought yes I thought that was really awesome. That's bad eyes. Ah.
Tim
Lot a lot of ah lower back cramps for Luke he has a city built on Ats we got just a glimpse of Lando we got some? Yeah yeah.
Stuart
If.
Stuart
And a Chad Ref fan that is performing a lot of deep fakes.
Scott
Yes.
Tim
We got some dialogue from chewy. We got RTC three po squabbling and now we got some action. Yeah.
Stuart
Um, ah.
Scott
Um, ah yep.
Stuart
Oh yeah I hope this all pays off. Yeah yeah.
Scott
Um, and we have a nice cliffhanger at the end.
Tim
Yeah, it honestly was a really cool cliffhanger I was like yeah I didn't expect this. Let's go and now cut to Mara Jaden Town card watching from a distance.
Scott
Um, yeah,, let's go. Or cut to something entirely different that we don't even know of yet. Yes.
Tim
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Stuart
And now for something completely different.
Kyle
Next chapter is the story of Dr Pla is the wise. People didn't know that Timothy Zone came up with it.
Tim
Ah.
Tim
Yeah, okay.