West of Scotland Junior Doctors Sub-committee 

Chair: Rachel Hughes

Secretary: Gordon Dick

Assistant Secretary: sanderson@bma.org.uk

Senior Employment Adviser: flogan@bma.org.uk

Member Engagement co-ordinator: gmackie@bma.org.uk

Topics discussed at the last WoSJDS included:

Rota Monitoring (including LTFT, GJNH Cardiothoracics)

c. LTFT - some cases of working 40hrs but not getting appropriately

recompensed (working 80% but getting paid 50%)

d. GJNH -

e. RAH - not enough responses

f. Lanarkshire - 1st monitoring this/ next week for medical SHO rota

definitely; should be everybody. need to chase up if not happening.

Have not agreed to monitoring guidance (hasn’t been approved by

service managers). poor engagement at regional liaison group

g. ?people being put off by online system. await response

h. A&A: ortho not going ahead

i. GRI: lack of consultation around when monitoring to take place;

changing dates without communicating with staff. not being

communicated through liaison group.

j. GGC: reports of poor returns; delayed response to confirming how

many drs on the rota. Encourage drs to fill in diaries to get 100% return;

have to fill in diaries with every shift for it to count. Again reports that

any late finishes have to be approved by consultants.

k. FY1s: cases of being bullied/ forced into covering gaps, including long

term gaps. (big issue in QEUH several years ago). similar cases in

Dykebar. psych not putting gaps out to the bank.

l. QEUH. ED: possibility that specialty drs included in rota monitoring

numbers. similar for fellows. medicine: back shift drs moved to nightswith minimal notice. not clear what was a short term gap from

communication with rota managers.

m.escalate to RJRD: all shifts need to be put out to bank; needs escalated

rates. GGC guidance on short term gaps being covered - useful

document; could be used in wider setting.

n. encourage staff to contact BMA and bring email/ paper evidence of

communication

4. Junior Doctor Mental Health and Welfare; Facilities

d. google doc filled by most hospitals. key information to be brought to

next week’s meeting.

e. rest and facilities charter: strategy is to target specific notes eg rest

facilities.

f. health and welfare: limited peer support for junior doctors. important to

get FY1 reps for monthly wellbeing meeting

g. A&A: peer support available but mainly run by consultants

h. GGC: wellbeing room not longer available but midnight cafe still is use

and appreciated.

i. health board dependent

5. Departmental/ hospital inductions

e. reinforce that you do not need to attend prior to nightshift. online

induction should not be done in your own time.

f. changeover issues: bad culture around changeover - working long

stretches of days over changeover. case of FY being pressured after

asking for zero day.

g. rota teams using excuse that they did not know your old rota and

therefore could not adapt new rota.

h. need to raise juniors awareness that they should not be forced to do this

v. via BMA instagram/ social media. Fiona to pick up with member

engagement (Gail)/ digital coordinator. need to clarify what is/ isnt ok

- short messages on listserver

6. Facilities (mess, office, rest)

7. Future Meetings - (in-person, hybrid)

g. next national meeting is in person (plus online option for people who

can’t make it)

h. next meeting will next meeting of new session. would be useful to meet

in person to familiarise with new team. (Pizza!) keep virtual option

available