Hi I’m Bob7. The purpose of this document is to clear my name of all the misinformation about me. I will also outline the lies and actions from Destiny in his second attempt to cancel me.
Here is the link to Destiny’s youtube video
When I defended myself against Destiny’s initial claims his response was to lie and attack me.
Destiny could have taken responsibility or tried to ignore it, but he decided to continue to launch his attack and supported the lies with doctored audio.
This document will have overwhelming evidence of Destiny lying so that if they try to lie and attack me again, it will be immediately obvious, and I can move on with my life.
Quick Summary of Events:
The three main claims from Destiny’s document are all false. Destiny made serious false allegations using spliced and edited audio in an attempt to cancel me. Destiny falsely called me a sexual predator and harassed those who spoke up against him. Destiny twisted personal stories of two girls who explicitly stated that they did not want to be mentioned by Destiny. These were used to attack me while both girls were on good terms with me. Boze rounded up my close friends and boss to tell them lies about me in an attempt to convince them I was an awful person. Destiny went public with Boze’s false allegations. Both Melina and Peachachoo corroborated the lies being told.
Destiny made these claims about me which are all false:
A big reason why the public believed Destiny's story was him weaving in choice audio from hours worth of audio to fit his narrative. Some of the audio comes from a group call which happened after Boze spent hours lying to people about me. Luckily for me Destiny showed his willingness to edit audio with the single recording that I also had. I now have evidence of Destiny not only leaving out important context but also splicing audio to make it sound like I’m saying things that I’m not.
Destiny needed to edit the audio because once you add the context, the stories fall apart.
Destiny talking about how he has the 3 hour call time stamped
Destiny hinting at manipulating and “selective editing”
He unprompted referenced the idea of selectively editing things.
In Destiny’s Bob7 Manifesto stream he intentionally spliced and edited audio to fit the story line he was trying to sell. Below are some of the examples all from the 3 hour call on 1/03.
Note: All audio that I provide myself are full clips from the 3 hour call on 1/03, this was the first day I started recording. Start to finish there is nothing removed in between. If requested I can add more of the conversation to the start or the finish. I only recorded this to defend myself since I knew I was being accused of things I didn't do. (I have this entire call OBS recorded with video of the call.)
I will highlight two examples up front and then go over the others in their respective section in this document.
Accusation Refresher: Boze claims that sceenshared nude photos of both Melina and Eleemoon to her in a discord call. This did not happen.
Description: Destiny edited the audio to make it sound like I’m calling the Eleemoon nude situation complicated - there’s nothing complicated about me not sharing a nude.
The Evidence:
Destiny's Video Making it Sound like I’m saying something I’m not
The Real Audio with important context of what the second half was in reference to
Transcript From Destiny’s Video:
Bob: I was not going to save it and I know I didn't do that. So now all I’m left with is questioning how the fuck did this happen? I think it was a complicated situation. I think it was really unfortunate, I do regret how I handled that. Of course. (sigh)
Transcript From Real Audio: (red is what Destiny removed)
Bob: I was not going to save it and I know I didn't do that. So now all I’m left with is questioning how the fuck did this happen? And I was willing to be super fucking honest, admitting all the things I think I handled badly. And I don’t think I’m a shitty person, I don’t think I’m insane. I think I was bad to Melina, I think it was a complicated situation. I think it was really unfortunate, I do regret how I handled that. Of course. (sigh)
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This is not true. Did he make this cut when he realized it didn’t exist???
Destiny saying I admitted to this is completely made up.
Was this his attempt at trying to make it look like I made a confession??
This is an 8 second cut with very important context.
Description: Destiny omits my clarification then proceeds to try to dunk on me using an edited clip.
The Evidence:
Destiny removes my clarification on what he thought was contradicted
Real audio with my clarification
I think it speaks volumes that he decided to cut two sentences here.
Transcript from Destiny’s Audio:
Destiny: Then how could you be surprised when Boze fucking hates Melina when you were in a dark spot and vented a bunch of negative fucking shit and you talked a ton of shit.
Bob: I fully understand her having a negative opinion of Melina at this point. I fully understand that.
Destiny: Oh
Bob: That, that is the exception like that that is like yeah. I, I totally own like, you know. Like but part of it was like Boze kept reassuring me “I don’t have a negative impression of Melina” and I believe her.
Destiny: Ok sure, but listen, ok I gotta go down stairs ok?
Transcript from real Audio: (red is what Destiny removed)
Destiny: Then how could you be surprised when Boze fucking hates Melina when you were in a dark spot and vented a bunch of negative fucking shit and you talked a ton of shit.
Bob: I fully understand her having a negative opinion of Melina at this point. I fully understand that...
Destiny: Oh
Bob: ...given my actions but what I don’t understand is how she could be left thinking that she’s manipulative. There is nothing that I’ve said to make that the case.
Bob: That, that is the exception like that that is like yeah. I, I totally own like, you know. Like but part of it was like Boze kept reassuring me “I don’t have a negative impression of Melina” and I believe her.
Destiny: Ok sure, but listen, ok I gotta go down stairs ok?
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Destiny cut this to avoid the point completely that I’ve done nothing to make Melina seem manipulative.
Boze saying that I painted Melina as dumb and naive but she started paying attention and disagrees.
Destiny actually just showed logs on his on stream outlining why Boze thought Melina was manipulative. I get to this later in the document but this is how Boze thought Melina was manipulative. I did not give Boze this impression.
This is a 9 second cut with very important context.
“Wait so does he understand or does he not understand? Do you see what I mean? How if you, if you, you just have to be listening really carefully and he is just so slimy. He’s so good at talking around everything.” - Destiny commentary on his spliced clip
It makes a lot of sense that he called this document creative writing which was made while high on LSD. (Log on 1/16 evening, stream on 1/17) This isn’t very responsible for an allegation this serious.
Remember Destiny is very familiar with this video and the “insane lies” I told in it, he even had it timestamped.
Destiny talking about how has the video times stamped
Destiny hinting at manipulating and “selective editing”
Destiny talking about being part of the process with his editor
Destiny will likely try to talk around this at all costs since the action is too severe to admit to.
This is because it is directly against twitch TOS. (This is not the only way Destiny broke TOS)
Destiny can not make the excuse that it was “20 minutes of a 3 hours call.” Hard to justify that you are saving time when you are cutting 2 sentences of important context multiple times and also splicing audio to misrepresent the conversation.
Destiny might try to blame his editor and claim he did not have knowledge of the edits. Destiny spoke about being part of the process with his editor multiple times on 1/18.
Even in the event that the editor tries to fall on the sword for Destiny and claims he was the one who made the edits, and Destiny forgot the contents of the original audio that he himself supplied and timestamped, this does not excuse Destiny from responsibility. The editor having the knowledge enough to make these specific cuts without Destiny’s input is very far fetched.
Destiny is always responsible for using this audio as evidence. Destiny used this edited audio to his advantage to misrepresent the facts and attack me. Destiny has been the aggressor throughout this whole situation, he is responsible for the accusations and evidence he uses to back up his claims.
Now that you’ve seen what he’s done with some clips that I can check, who knows how he’s been able to misrepresent the other conversations.
IMPORTANT TO NOTE
This makes it clear to me that there’s no chance any other people involved will receive full unedited conversations. This also brings into question every single audio clip that he used. I was only able to catch these ones because I also have the recording of it.
Destiny does not record purely to defend himself. Destiny records to hold power over others. The way he used his recordings speaks to his intent.
Why did Destiny do this? Because he was putting words into their mouths and twisting their stories and didn’t want them to correct him.
“Bob7 is fucking terrified when women speak up”
Destiny’s projection is huge here.
Destiny accused every girl who spoke against him of clout chasing and shit on them publicly.
Defending me gets people attacked, it does not give them clout. Not only that but it’s also easier to play the victim role if they were interested in the clout like he says.
The Evidence:
There’s a LOT more of him harassing the girls who spoke up against him, these were a fraction of the examples.
Destiny claimed I manipulated these girls but he wouldn’t fall for those tricks because according to him he’s smart, unlike women, who are dumb.
Montage of some casual misogyny from when I talked with Destiny on stream on 1/14.
Destiny seems to have the idea that Melina and other women are easy to manipulate, I wonder if he’s speaking from personal experience.
Melina also wasn’t the biggest fan of people speaking up.
Melina made a big point of how horrible it was for Elee to speak up after hearing what Ofelia said.
It’s also pretty clear that Melina doesn’t think I’m a sexual predator. Who would want to be friends with a predator?
Destiny still calls it “10” despite the fact that he went back and just listened to it.
There’s 6 girls total as you can count from Destiny’s manifesto.
It’s no accident Destiny always exaggerated the number to try make it sound as damning as possible. From his first video to his latest 2 weeks later, he decided to round 6 girls up to 10.
I am on good terms with Ofelia, Elee, and REDACTED 2.
The three other girls from this call.
Boze saying she has had no bad sexual experiences with me.
Melina saying she has had no bad sexual experiences with me.
Peachachoo saying I’ve never flirted with her. (Will address my comment about Peach to Ofelia later)
These three girls also happen to be the closest girls in Destiny’s life. It’s not a coincidence that they’re the ones who stuck with him.
Description: Destiny edited the audio to exclude the fact that Peach agreed that I have never flirted with her immediately after I asked.
The Evidence:
Transcript from Destiny’s Audio:
Bob: Peach can speak to this, I’ve never flirted with her. Like I’m never inappropriate with the girls, ever.
Peach: But like, it made me feel a little bit weird because I had heard from some people that oh “I want to have a threesome with Boze and Melina or you told Ofelia “I want to fuck you and I want to fuck Peach.” and then I was like wait.
Transcript form real audio: (red is what Destiny removed)
Bob: Peach can speak to this, I’ve never flirted with her. Like I’m never inappropriate with the girls, ever. This is fictional.
Peach: Yeah, I’ve never experienced you flirting with me. Um one sec, I’m not sure if this person’s comfortable with me sharing it. I don’t want to throw them under the bus….
(More talking for 4 minutes: Austin goes on to clarify that Ofelia and I had already talked. Peach brings up a few concerns. Full details in the audio.)
Peach: But like, it made me feel a little bit weird because I had heard from some people that oh “I want to have a threesome with Boze and Melina or you told Ofelia “I want to fuck you and I want to fuck Peach.” and then I was like wait.
“Peachachoo/Boze generally agree that Bob7 misuses his “asexual” status to solicit girls for sexual conversations or nudes.”
Listen to Destiny make this claim at the start plus Peach’s description of my actions.
“He pretends to be asexual so that he can hear about kinks”
Again I don’t know where the fuck this comes from.
This stems from me telling Melina I was asexual while being in a relationship for the purpose of not being sexual. Which I admit is pretty dumb. But I made it clear to Melina on 8/31 that this is not true (first date interacting sexually in DMs is on 10/03). I did not tell a single person I was asexual while not being in my relationship (which ended mid August).
The claim they try to make based on this is nonsense.
They have the recording of the “girl group call” if literally anyone spoke to this being true, they would have used it. They just have Peach stating it while the evidence contradicts her.
Quote from Destiny’s Video:
“Bob7 has also revealed potentially damaging personal information from Austin to several women as well.”
Austin confirms that they were literally nothing and that things might be being exaggerated.
(Destiny had access to this yet still tried to make it a point, this can be said about many points.)
When Boze is lying about me to the other girls and is painting me to be an awful person, everyone is now considering past actions through this lens. This dynamic led to a situation like this, where I said something trivial about Austin and now it’s being portrayed as a big secret where I broke his trust.
Other additional evidence that they spent time together:
I mentioned that one of the reasons Boze had a negative view of Melina was that I was not interested in Melina sexually. I had a log to back up what I was talking about and showed it to Destiny. Destiny then proceeded to edit out him reading it during the 3 hour call and act like I was making this up out of nowhere.
This is another example of Destiny trying to establish a pattern of me lying and making up stories with a completely fabricated example.
Description: Destiny cuts 6 minutes of audio to make it sound like I’m responding to his point with an entirely different explanation: the question and answer are for 2 different topics.
The rest of the bullet points are from the audio he chose to cut:
Watch Destiny debate an edited argument as he cuts out 6 entire minutes from our conversation. Destiny intentionally makes it look like I’m responding to his point here.
The Evidence:
Real audio with context of conversation
Transcript from Destiny’s Audio:
Destiny: I’m curious, we can present this to Rajj, or to Austin, I’m sorry. Like so you talked a ton of shit about Melina to Boze and Boze doesn’t like Melina OR on the flip side
Bob: No no I did not talk a lot of shit.... (cut off)
Destiny: No no, I’m saying that’s my story and you’re saying your story is you told Boze that Melina was hot but you rejected her advances so somehow that made Boze a person that you just talked to for the first time hate Melina?
Bob: No, I’m just telling you what my thought process was, it was just that I interacted very honestly with how I felt with everything and I guess some of that does definitely include negativity.
Transcript form real audio: (red is what Destiny removed)
Destiny: I’m curious, we can present this to Rajj, or to Austin, I’m sorry. Like so you talked a ton of shit about Melina to Boze and Boze doesn’t like Melina OR on the flip side
Bob: No no I did not talk a lot of shit.... (cut off)
Destiny: No no, I’m saying that’s my story and you’re saying your story is you told Boze that Melina was hot but you rejected her advances so somehow that made Boze a person that you just talked to for the first time hate Melina?
Bob: I mean I think her being close friends with you and me telling a lot of the stories, she placed the blame on Melina and not you. I genuinely think that I didn’t say anything bad, like you know, I didn’t really shit talk Melina until there was a period where I was mad at her...
(I’m not typing out the full transcript, the audio has all of it.)
...
Bob: I don’t know so say if someone, like if I have a, if, me being mad at Melina right? There was a point where I was really mad at Melina and Boze asks me “oh how are you feeling towards Melina?” like in that situation am I supposed to be like “I don’t want to talk about that”
Destiny: Well I mean, I mean, I try to have a little bit of tact.
Bob: I have no tact.
Destiny: if I had Melina as a friend of, hold on. Melina is your friend of what fucking twelve months? And Boze is someone that you fucking talked to for what two weeks? Ya I’m probably not going to be throwing best, my close friend of twelve months under the bus for some new fucking stranger girl that’s like another streamer. That sounds like a horrible idea, is that supposed to be a good argument?
Bob: No, I’m just telling you what my thought process was, it was just that I interacted very honestly with how I felt with everything and I guess some of that does definitely include negativity.
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There’s no excuse for making a cut like this. If you are going to make a cut it should be clear that a large section is being removed. With the way Destiny edits this it makes it sound seamless like nothing was removed and that I was actually responding to his point.
Let’s review what just happened:
Destiny claim: Bob told a crazy story.
Reality: Bob presented a claim with evidence that Destiny removed to dunk on Bob.
That’s pretty absurd.
Below is from Destiny’s Bob7 Manifesto
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The Confrontation in Georgia
On January 1st, Melina and I arrived in Atlanta, Georgia, and made an hour long drive south to Columbus so that I could check in to the hotel and begin to coordinate for my canvassing event. Boze was a bit nervous about seeing Melina at this event, and Melina had expressed similar discomfort to me about seeing Boze as Bob7 was sending her huge, negative logs of Boze to Peachachoo and her on the 1st of January.
Melina and Boze are both around me on the morning of the 2nd, but it’s clear both of them feel incredibly awkward around one another. Melina decides to leave the conference room and sends Boze a long message saying that she wants to clear things up between them because she is tired of the “fake bullshit acting nice.” ( 1 | 2 | 3 ) After a 2-3 hour talk, it becomes clear that both girls realize that Bob7 has been playing everyone behind the scenes with an unreal amount of half-truths and double-speak.
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1.
Boze was a bit nervous about seeing Melina at this event, and Melina had expressed similar discomfort to me about seeing Boze as Bob7 was sending her huge, negative logs of Boze to Peachachoo and her on the 1st of January.
Look at the screenshotted evidence for this “Boze was a bit nervous about seeing Melina.”
I guess Boze was also scared about seeing Nathan (Destiny’s kid) …. Was this because of me too?
Boze also references that they are all coming from Disney and jokes about Georgia being a super spreader event. Boze also claimed on her own stream that she knew Melina was going to be there and that she didn’t give a shit (this will be shown later).
2.
“Bob7 was sending her huge, negative logs of Boze to Peachachoo and her on the 1st of January.”
The “and her” is just wrong. I did not send the logs to Melina, although Destiny claims this.
I sent the logs to Peach and Peach asked permission to talk about what Boze said with Melina.
I was not told by Peach that she sent the logs to Melina, I thought they would just talk.
Destiny also claimed that I told Peach to send these logs to Melina.
Peach actually asked permission to TALK to Melina about what we had talked about
3.
“Melina and Boze are both around me on the morning of the 2nd, but it’s clear both of them feel incredibly awkward around one another.”
Let’s look at the very important timestamp at the start of this “huge, negative logs of Boze” (top left).
The time is 8:52 pm PST. Melina sent the logs to Boze the night before they even saw each other in person yet.
Maybe it’s awkward because Melina sent the logs to Boze before they met. I think most people would consider this pretty aggressive from Melina.
4.
“Melina decides to leave the conference room and sends Boze a long message saying that she wants to clear things up between them because she is tired of the “fake bullshit acting nice.”
Melina sending the long logs at this time is completely fabricated. Bold of Destiny to make up a story while providing the logs to prove that it’s made up.
This story sounds so normal, but it’s also so wrong. Destiny told the story this way to pretend like I caused the conflict between Melina and Boze. Destiny tried to act like things were awkward due to my actions. Things were awkward because of Melina’s actions.
Destiny claimed I deleted a stream that I did with Boze to hide it from Melina.
Destiny proceeds to double down on this claim despite me showing how dumb it was the first time.
Destiny’s story was that I deleted the stream to hide it from Melina. The VOD of it was up the entire night. If I was looking to “hide” a VOD which is already an absurd concept, I surely would have deleted it before going to bed right? Let’s say I did forget to delete the VOD and my intention was to hide it. Would I tell Melina about streaming with Boze before deleting it??
I told Melina about the stream before I had deleted it, even offering for her to watch it. Destiny claims that I deleted the stream before telling Melina, this is not the case.
Reminder: Destiny used this “investigation” as proof that I was crazy and still using the story after it being showed how dumb it is.
Melina making the claim I never thought Boze and Melina would talk
Why would I think this? I know they’ve talked, we’ve all even talked together.
I hung out with both Boze and Melina in a call on 11/23
They also talked on 12/13. Melina messaged Boze about me and told Boze not to tell me about it.
Additional evidence:
Logs from 1/01 also have me defending the idea that someone saying something mean makes them fake in response to Melina being mad at Boze. They say that I’m trying to cause conflict between Melina and Boze when it's clear I’m trying to make the situation less tense (Melina says she hates fake people (referring to Boze), and I push back).
“I didn't bring up any of these initial sexual assault allegations or the nude leaking”
“It it wasn't a goal to cancel him”
“I didn't really care that much”
Destiny manages to tell blatant lies that even his community could correct. If you look at the VOD, not a single person in Destiny’s chat corrects him on being wrong after saying this. Destiny is constantly trying to remove himself so that he doesn’t have to take accountability for his escalation of the situation by pretending it never happened, and it worked.
Destiny makes a big point of this multiple times after some selective editing. [1] [2] [3]
Listen to how confident he sounds, and then think about how wrong he is. Destiny is desperately trying to give more credibility to the nude allegation.
Destiny reading this quote below and playing the clip.
Quote from Destiny’s document:
Bob7 had, strangely enough, a prior conversation that eerily mirrored almost exactly what was going to happen in the future with Ofelia’s allegations. He explicitly asked Boze what would happen if Ofelia were to come out with any kind of inappropriate sexual allegation against him
Single log showing that I didn’t ask Boze about Ofelia. Boze unprompted used Ofelia as placeholder name.
This is image four of the logs below, the rest of the logs show that the conversation was not about Ofelia.
Destiny tried to spin this because the logs show Boze saying that she’d be willing to disregard morals to protect her friends and herself.
Boze tried to spin up a story about this when I brought it up to Austin, Destiny doubled down on it. I address this later in the document. I will also address why Boze was temporarily pissed at Melina in those logs.
Destiny claims over and over that one of my biggest claims was that he had been working with Boze for weeks…. I never said this. I know Destiny can read, the strawman is very intentional.
Additional Evidence of Destiny stating this:
I at no point said they were working together for weeks.
My claim was that Destiny had wanted to cancel me for two months. I claimed Destiny and Boze worked together for at most two days. Here is Destiny saying he’s hated me for two months. Both Melina and Boze have told me that Destiny has wanted to cancel me, neither had any interest to allow him to attempt this until the events in early January, which I explained.
Additional evidence from previous documents:
Destiny said he wasn’t involved, meanwhile he had the girls recording and was coaching them on what questions to ask.
Boze decided to do a response stream to my initial release on the night of 1/14. I streamed to respond to her points on the fly. The stream was a trainwreck of lies. Boze was drinking wine and addressing the situation with no care. (she leaked 4 screenshots one had Ofelia’s name not being censored, another one had my email in a log that served no purpose other than it having my email)
Boze states that she thought that Melina was this dumb girl and I made Boze think she was manipulative. The implication is that I was telling Boze that I thought Melina was manipulative. My assessment was the opposite of this being the case.
Boze goes on to explain the “two big lies” that I told about her.
Ofelia asked Boze explicitly to not be included. Boze disregarded Ofelia’s wishes then proceeded to leak her name, mock her, and victim blame her.
Boze has told so many lies that are blatantly false and easy to disprove. This is the person that launched false allegations about me in private including the nude sharing accusation.
I will fully breakdown every claim but this will take time. This section should cover the primary concerns. Later on in the document, the claims will be broken down point by point.
My claim: This did not happen.
Destiny sold this storyline leaving people calling me the “Harvery Weinstein of Twitch.”
I’ve never leveraged my position to gain favor with girls.
If anyone believes I’ve done this please speak up or privately message Austin.
This is a fabricated storyline that holds no merit. No one that has ever been on Austin’s show can speak to this being the case.
My claim: This did not happen. I did not screenshare any photos of either girl to Boze. This is a false allegation coming from Boze.
There were multiple edits that they made to help try to make this accusation land. Destiny also boldly lied about having me admitting to it.
Boze saying she wasn’t interested after being told
Why haven’t you heard Boze say that she wasn't interested? That’s because Destiny spliced the audio to remove this!
The Evidence:
Destiny removes Boze retelling of that night
Transcript from real audio with IMPORTANT CONTEXT FROM BOZE (red is what Destiny removed)
Boze: He like kept going and said this conversation was weird and something crazy happened and then I was like, I got really curious and I was like “wtf tell me, tell me” and the he was like “alright, I’ll tell you if you promise I can stay at your house in LA.”
Bob: Oh yeah, that that was weird. Yeah that’s really weird
Boze: Yeah
Melina: Really weird.
Bob: even Frank told me that was weird and I admit to that that’s weird.
Boze: Ok so there’s… so I’m happy to see some...
Austin: So that's true
Bob: Yeah, that’s true, that’s true,that’s true.
Boze: Yeah so I eventually told Bob that, first I said yes because I just wanted, I guess, to know what was going on. So he said “Okay now I’m staying at your house blah blah he told Melina that he was staying at my house. And then as time went on I felt like that was a little inappropriate because I got afraid of people thinking like “Oh Bob is staying at Boze’s, they’re fucking. So that’s why I told him he couldn’t stay at my house anymore.
Bob: and eventually I said “Yeah, I understand.”
Boze: Yeah, so then after that he starts building this up and I’m like “Ok, alright tell me what it is.” So that was the first thing where like Melina, where he told me that it was Melina and Elee’s idea. And at this point I was really fucking annoyed that he hyped this whole thing up and then the thing was just that Elee and Melina were like sending pictures back and forth. So I didn't sound super super interested. And I was saying that, let me just finish this.
Bob: sure
Melina: But Still though you’re saying that we did something like that to Boze is just like so incredibly like private, I don’t know. Because you know how Elee is so sensitive and so private about things. And like you just shared that with Boze. It’s just like, it’s just really strange.
Bob: The initial. The initially, Boze Boze Boze Boze Boze Boze Boze. You could say that in my initial framing I didn’t really include like I mainly focused on like Melina sharing pictures and I didn’t really include Elee. But then eventually later down the line I admitted that Elee also sent something.
Melina: Yeah but it’s still like, the way you were like sharing information. I’ve told you so many things. I saw you as a very very close friend. I started venting to you so much about so many private things.
Bob: Yeah
Melina: And you just spilled the beans to so many people.
Bob: Yeah if you want to say that
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Quote from Destiny’s manifesto:
“Bob7 hops into a call with Boze where he screen-shares the conversation and reveals the nude pictures posted in the call. Boze later reveals to Melina in their conversation on January 2nd that she saw both the conversation and the nude pictures posted”
Boze’s story doesn’t make any sense given the fact there is no way I could have screenshared either of those photos without Boze seeing some REALLY explicit stuff. This is because Melina dropped 13 nude photos in that call.
Boze claims she wasn’t interested upon hearing about it. This means her accusation is I showed her anyway. Most people would imagine that would make someone upset considering it’s a very shitty thing to do. The logs not only show there being no issue but Boze says “Bob I genuinely feel like you’ve been the BEST friend you can be” in regards to Melina the very night of the accusation. That seems like an awfully strange thing to say if I just screenshared photos of her.
The full conversation from 11/15, the night Boze falsely claims I screenshared photos to her.
The whole accusation was a mess from Boze, there’s a lot to break down from it to show why it’s nonsense.
Description: Destiny edited the audio to remove me referencing how pressured Ofelia felt to go along with Boze’s narrative that I was a predator. Ofelia did not think it was a big deal and then they were convincing her it was sexual assault.
The Evidence:
Real audio with me talking about Ofelia
Transcript from Destiny’s Audio:
(This is conversation is in reference to this clip)
Bob: Like like that literally is like explains word for word what happened. Let’s launch off three big lies and you have all the truths gathered up and now you are corroborating with people
Melina: I really (sigh)
Bob: That’s exactly what happened. There is a group of girls that were corroborated Of…
Melina: I mean I know that this is completely impossible.
Transcript form real audio: (red is what Destiny removed)
Bob: Like like that literally is like explains word for word what happened. Let’s launch off three big lies and you have all the truths gathered up and now you are corroborating with people
Melina: I really (sigh)
Bob: That’s exactly what happened. There is a group of girls that were corroborated Ofelia was going off that she was like “man Bob”, she was, she was, she was fucking breaking down to me that she felt like that she was a bad friend to me because she was like “Bob, I know that you’re joking but they are convincing me that it’s sexual assault.” you know and like you know I just you know she she, she felt so pressured. That’s the word she kept using was just “I felt so pressured to go along with this”
Peachachoo: Mhmm
Bob: And that’s not a fucking accident dude.
Peachachoo: (sigh) I, I think that it's tough I…
Melina: I mean I know that this is completely impossible. (this is in reference to the clip, Melina is changing the conversation away from what I was saying.)
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It’s crucial to Destiny’s case that Ofelia is actually my victim. Destiny went to the length of painting me as a master manipulator to invalidate anything she actually said in terms of speaking up. Despite Destiny claiming that he can speak for everyone and that he’s the only smart person who knows best, Ofelia can speak to her experience, her opinion matters.
This is a 33 second cut with very important context.
This is a quote from Destiny’s document:
“Bob7’s private conversation with Ofelia was probably more akin to manipulation than apology.”
Well this conversation just exists. It was 33 minutes long.
Most of the conversation is Ofelia recalling her experience and me listening to her.
Ofelia also recorded this call herself since she was still trying to figure out what was happening. Ofelia consented to the use of these clips, is aware of the points being made and can confirm that her words are not being misrepresented.
This call took place after the “girl group call” had happened and is what Ofelia is informing me about. This call happened before the 3 hour accusation group call later that night that I was a part of.
This is Ofelia talking about her experience in the “girl group call”. This is the call that Destiny has refused to release to Elee and Ofelia despite them being a part of it. This is a call that Ofelia said she was told was not being recorded. Destiny can’t release it because it would expose the lies and gaslighting happening in that call. Instead Destiny chose to use out of context clips some of which start mid sentence to misrepresent the conversation as a whole.
An example of Destiny intentionally misrepresenting the conversation:
Destiny presented Ofelia being afraid how this would affect her when she was working under the framework that the lies about me were true and mentioned the Austin Show.
Ofelia is NOT bringing this point up unprompted.
Peach was the very first one in the girl group call to bring up my position on Austin's show.
Destiny presents this audio AFTER Ofelia’s to make it seem like Peach is repeating Ofelia’s point, but in reality, it’s the opposite.
Destiny portrays it as Ofelia being the first one bringing up the concern. Destiny does this to try to make the claim more believable by attributing it to someone outside of his circle. Destiny is putting all the blame of this claim on Ofelia and is trying to call this the inciting incident.
Destiny used it to try to justify Boze’s actions and make the claim that Boze went to Austin due to Ofelia’s concerns. Destiny uses “probably” twice to try to distance himself because he knows it’s not true. Destiny has access to all the information to know this is not true.
(Boze’s actual main concern was herself, she reached out to Austin before the “girl group call” which can be seen in the next clip)
The statement that Peach makes first:
“He can’t really fuck over Boze or Melina cuz they know Austin, but I’m scared for beep Ofelia and shit, and just generally, it makes me feel uncomfortable that he’s an Austin show producer ...”
Ofelia later repeating Peach’s point:
“I mean like, I mean what are we supposed to do from here cause I don’t want to completely like disappear because he does do the Austin recruitment, especially for me and Peach.”
Both Ofelia and Elee are certain that Peach brought it up first. It’s also clear from Ofelia’s statement that it’s towards the end of the conversation (“what are we supposed to do from here”)
Destiny (and Peach) have the audio for girl group call. I am 100% confident that they are unable to prove me wrong that Peach is the first one to bring it up. They have the audio, this would be a really easy point to disprove if I was wrong, but they can’t!!
This is a point they keep emphasizing, that they only went because of Ofelia’s concerns. That would be really slimy to lay the blame on her if Peach was the one who brought it up.
Destiny made a big point of all the “awful things” I said about Ofelia behind her back, he made a big point of the sex dream. The sex dream was also a big example that Boze, Melina, and Peach used to say that I was shit talking other girls behind there backs. Meanwhile these are things I’ve said to Ofelia personally but also on stream with her as well.
These are some highlights of Ofelia and I on stream together of specifically sexual/edgy shit that can explain the way we interacted sometimes (this is cut from 2 different streams, I talk about everything on my streams).
The audio that was used of Ofelia was during a multiple hour call in which Boze was spreading lies about me. Destiny used choice audio from Ofelia to fit his narrative. Destiny had no desire to consider the context since the context went directly against the story he was trying to sell. Ofelia says she felt very pressured and she was being told that her story about my experience with her was sexual assault. During the girl group call Ofelia asked if the call was being recorded and she was told no.
Ofelia and I were good friends, we hung out in calls sometimes during November and December. The comments in the audio of Ofelia were referencing a single time on 12/28.
People had this idea that I called her up specifically to say awful aggressive shit to her. In reality the things being quoted were a part of a 2 hour call on 12/28. That was the night where I dropped the “I’m going to fuck you and Peachacoo line.” Me crossing the line this night was first raised as an issue after the drama began to unfold. Once Ofelia brought it up as a concern I thanked her for telling me that it made her uncomfortable and I apologized for my actions. Considering that this was a one time instance and I have never made any sexual advancements or comments about Ofelia outside of 12/28, Ofelia and I were able to resolve this in private.
It should be clear that it isn’t a ridiculous idea that we were able to resolve this.
Destiny portrayed this as me manipulating a victim to change her story.
Using this as evidence that I’m a predator is insane.
Destiny did not communicate at all with Ofelia personally about the situation. Destiny completely ignored Ofelia’s request to not be included in his attack against me. Destiny invalidated Ofelia speaking up after. Destiny showed no empathy for someone he claimed was a victim.
Destiny’s treatment of Kacey throughout this is genuinely fucked up. Below is another example of selective audio being spun with an absurd narrative so that Destiny can shit on Kaceytron.
Destiny frames this as Kaceytron SHARING her own similar stories. In reality,
I can’t stress enough how INTENTIONALLY DISHONEST this framing was. Destiny has access to that full audio recording. There is no way he thought Kacey was “sharing her own story.”
Imagine laughing at this: [1] The second image is the imgur from the first one [2].
Kacey is a perfect example why people are afraid to speak up against Destiny, this is what he will do to you. Destiny pushed hard on the narrative that Kaceytron was crazy.
Destiny was abusive to Kaceytron throughout this process.
Kacey did not deserve to be treated this way.
Destiny is still harassing Kacey about this.
Destiny claims no one reached out to him regarding Ofelia. Destiny says how Kacey and Minx trusted Ofelia herself instead of Destiny. Destiny is the Ofelia expert??? Destiny, the person who would not even begin to be able to describe the relationship between Ofelia and I. Destiny, the person who couldn’t even give you the story of what happened that night between Ofelia and I.
Destiny went to lengths to constantly discredit Ofelia speaking up since it directly went against his storyline.
Destiny projected a lot of his problematic behavior onto me.
Destiny even went to the extent to say that I pride myself on manipulation. (I have never said this)
The public now looked at everything I did through the lens of me being a manipulator while there being overwhelming evidence throughout the logs of me not being manipulative.
“Bob had already been planning his manifesto against me for weeks”
“He had already been planning a manifesto in advance”
Destiny makes this point after I screenshare a clip of him in the 1/03 call… Which I took a minute to search for and grab. Destiny edited the audio to make it seem like I had it instantly.
This claim is hilariously dumb. Just consider the fact there’s important conversations I didn’t record with both Melina and Peach.
This is the normal standard of evidence Destiny uses to make a claim.
Destiny accusing me of having secretive logs
From Destiny manifesto:
“Bob7 attempts to convince Melina that him leaking logs to everyone is actually him being the most honest person”
Destiny can’t even claim I selectively leaked logs that looked good for me because the accusation is that I’m screensharing logs. Can’t selectively show them while scrolling through.
Destiny will spin the narrative whichever way he needs to.
Bob having secretive logs = bad
Bob not having secretive logs = bad
Destiny says that I’ve made an effort to conflate the two nudes claims
I made it clear while addressing them that there were two separate accusations.
Destiny claims multiple times that I was just trying to fuck Boze.
Destiny says Boze was a “new toy to fuck”, who thinks like this?
This idea is the result of projection, Destiny has more sexual interest with new partners.
According to Destiny the simplest explanation is that I met Boze and instantly decided that I wanted to fuck her and knew a good way to do that is talk about Destiny’s abusive behavior.
In reality Melina’s venting about their relationship got progressively more concerning and then it became clear with details Boze was providing that she was also being lied to. Talking to Boze is the first time I learned details that are not coming from Melina so I didn’t have to purely take Melina at her word.
Additional evidence of Destiny stating this:
Unsure if this is how he thinks of women, but reducing them as an object to be fucked ain’t a great look. Destiny claims this even though Boze and I have never been sexual with each other.
If this was my goal I could have prioritized meeting in person, which I did not.
Bonus Meme:
Booksmarts was also able to tell that Destiny was projecting here
Booksmarts taking a hard stance that Destiny is a “coomer weirdo”
"My Primary focus is to sustain my first attack on Bob7" - Destiny
He twisted both Ofelia and Elee’s story in order to attack me despite them asking specifically not to be included. Destiny even went so far as to attack Eleemoon after she spoke up.
1/04- Destiny threatens to nuke my life after another person questions his judgement
1/14- Destiny says the nukes have nothing to do with anything “Personal stuff from a long time ago”
Destiny makes it clear “the personal stuff from a long time ago” was his big nuke, which according to him is not relevant. Doesn’t seem too reasonable for Destiny to claim “I will destroy Bob’s personal life so hard that he will literally have nothing left.”
Destiny threatening nukes was literally a scare tactic to try to bully me into not responding.
Destiny after claiming his nuke had nothing to do with leaking nudes now decides that these were in fact actually the nuke all along! Destiny rather than having no nukes decides to give full backing to Boze’s false allegations.
Destiny says the nuke is nude sharing and shit talking
At some point Destiny grasping for straws decides Ofelia’s recanted story is now one of the two nukes while Ofelia explicitly stated that she did not want to be included.
Destiny was intimate with Boze for at least a month before I first met her, and they were hanging out every day to the point where it caused problems in Destiny and Melina’s relationship. I end up doing a stream with Boze on 11/06 after she reached out to me on twitter [1] [ 2].
Melina tells the story of my first night with Boze
Destiny said after this night that he knew either Boze or Bob was crazy.
The things I talked about related to abusive behavior; they weren’t random secrets. Destiny said I shared these because I met Boze and immediately wanted to fuck her and this was a good way to try to do so???? Destiny claims that this makes more sense than meeting Boze and warning her after realizing she is being lied to about things that affect both her and Melina.
After that day Destiny hated me and started to tell everyone that I was crazy.
Destiny claiming he doesn’t argue about me.
Destiny claiming that it’s pretty clear that he isn’t shit talking me behind the scenes.
Destiny loved to claim he “doesn't care” meanwhile he stopped talking to both Peach and Melina for a bit for Peach thinking I was a genuine person.
Peach thinking I’m a decent person makes Destiny hate his life.
Destiny told Boze I was crazy but despite this, Boze still became my friend.
Boze claims that “Bob is a bitch, I smelled it from a mile away, no one else smelled it.”
Pretty interesting contradiction going on here.
Also interesting that Boze called me noble four times on 12/28 (What’s more reasonable giving Melina genuine advice or sticking around to taunt Steve? I know which one Destiny would argue.)
Destiny talking about how all the girls defended me.
Consider the fact that Destiny is telling these girls that I’m crazy and despite this they still defended me. Think about how on guard these girls would be for problematic behavior considering the fact that Destiny is trying to convince them I’m awful.
Let’s look at the explanations for this being the case:
Destiny's story: Bob is a MASTER MANIPULATOR. “Bob’s a good talker” (I made mistakes that only Destiny could spot??)
My story: I’m talking to friends in a reasonable way. (I have truth on my side)
I would argue Destiny has provided almost zero evidence of me being manipulative or speaking well. There’s plenty of evidence of the opposite. This becomes very clear since I can prove that I’ve been telling the truth.
Later in the document there will be a section devoted to “how the girls turned.”
Boze was concerned that I was telling people she was crazy.
Destiny had this idea that I was going around “shit talking” him to a bunch of different girls. I only told Boze. The only other people I’ve ever talked about it with is people Melina has directly vented to herself. Obviously Destiny isn’t going to blame Melina for venting to these people, Bob is the bad guy. Destiny made it seem like I was the one spilling information to Peach, Eris, and Elee, but that was actually Melina.
When someone tries to give a girl in his life genuine advice, Destiny paints them as evil. Eleemoon got to experience this as well as you can see in her statement.
At the point that Destiny is calling me crazy the only single event he is basing this on is talking to Boze on 11/06 (and then he did an awful investigation). Destiny had no problem with me for months. Destiny has never interacted with me off stream.
Reminder: I tried to reach out to Destiny to resolve any problems, and he didn’t talk to me.
No one involved outside of Destiny’s circle wanted to go public, every other member involved wanted to handle things privately at the point he went live.
Destiny went live with vague allegations and the threat to “nuke my life” if I defended myself on 1/04. I eventually went live to defend myself. Destiny then went live with more specific false allegations on 1/17.
Destiny called me and also painted me as a sexual predator.
Destiny attacked those who spoke up as defending a predator.
Destiny accused Kaceytron of defending a sexual predator.
Destiny accused Eleemoon of defending a sexual predator.
Melina calling me a sexual predator highlight reel.
(Melina wanting to be friends post drama)
At this point there is enough information to begin to address every main claim in detail.
Destiny claim:
This claim is made up of 3 portions:
Destiny’s claim: I pressured Eleemoon into sending a nude photo of herself.
My claim: Elee felt pressured by the situation, not me. What made her feel weird was sending nudes for the wrong reason. We’ve flirted with the idea of being sexual with each other. There are no negative feelings between us due to this event.
Description: Destiny removes the back and forth after Boze asks her question and makes it seem like Bob is trying to talk over Melina to prevent her from speaking up and removes Melina agreeing with Bob’s explanation.
The Evidence:
Destiny removing the context to the eleemoon situation
The Real audio with important context to the eleemoon situation
Relevant transcript from Destiny’s Video:
Boze: You told me that Elee and Melina were just being sexually open and they decided to just start sending pictures.
Bob: That is 100% the honest framing BUT it eventually got to a point where I egged Elee on.
That is the honest framing.
Boze: Melina is that accurate?
Bob: But but but but. I just want to say. It really is the case that... That uh, those pictures were never ever captured by me and they were not screenshared.
Transcript from Real audio: (red is what Destiny removed)
Boze: You told me that Elee and Melina were just being sexually open and they decided to just start sending pictures.
Bob: That is 100% the honest framing BUT it eventually got to a point where I egged Elee on.
That is the honest framing.
Boze: Melina is that accurate?
Melina: About what?
Bob: Yeah
Boze: Is that how the situation played ...?
(confirmation from Melina, probably verbal but could be physical. There is a different example of Melina audio clear on Destiny’s side but non-existent on mine. This is due to the way they recorded the audio: Melina is closer to the recording device than the microphone, so sometimes she doesn’t get picked up by Discord but is loud in Destiny’s recording as shown here.)
Boze: Okay.
Peach: Wait I have a question.
Bob: But but but but. I just want to say. It really is the case that... That uh, those pictures were never ever captured by me and they were not screenshared.
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This was a 6 second cut. This went against the storyline of me pressuring Elee.
The Evidence:
(I checked with Elee to make sure she was okay with me sharing this information)
I met Eleemoon 7 months ago, we streamed together and had a lot of fun. I was still in a relationship at that time which I made clear to her off stream. We would talk here and there, we had 1,400 messages before January. Most of our interactions were on stream and they were good ones. Post breakup (ended my 4+ year relationship in mid August), Elee would sometimes flirt with the idea of sending me nudes.
This led to some flirting but I never was bold enough to try to have anything happen. Eventually the day in question 11/15 happens where I “pressured her'' to send a photo.
In reality what made Elee uncomfortable was sending a nude for the wrong reason. We talked about it and cleared up any negative feelings. Even after this point we still flirted with the idea of being sexual with each other. Elee and I have always had good communication, she’s been a great friend.
Destiny did not communicate at all with Eleemon personally about the situation. Destiny completely ignored Eleemoon’s request to not be included in his attack against me. Destiny invalidated Eleemon speaking up after. Destiny also HARASSED Eleemoon for speaking up about the truth (Examples:[1] [2] [3], these are only a fraction of the way Destiny treated her). Destiny showed no empathy for someone he claimed was a victim. Destiny had no desire to consider the context since the context went directly against the story he was trying to sell.
Destiny’s claim: I screenshared nude photos of Eleemoon and Melina to Boze.
My claims: This did not happen. I did not screenshare any photos of either girl to Boze.
I was accused of screensharing nude photos of Melina and Eleemoon. The only description ever given of the photos in question was “Destiny holding Melina’s Boobs.” The focus of the accusation was HEAVILY on Eleemoon’s, which Boze never gave a description of in the call. They use the very short description of Melina’s photo as proof of seeing Eleemoon’s photo, which was confusing. I didn’t even connect that they were talking about that specific photo given earlier until much deeper into the investigation - I thought they were talking about the single Elee photo the entire time. It was very messy with the way they presented and I believe this led to confusion to the public as well.
This is the reality of the night in question: Melina, Elee and I were in a group call. Elee was mediating a disagreement between Melina and I. The first half of the conversation was very rough. Melina left the call for 10 minutes after expressing deep sadness and then she came back and things eventually took a sexual turn and Melina ended up posting a ton of nudes of herself. After Elee posted a few non-nude pictures of herself I expressed interest in her sharing as well. After that call ended I spoke to Boze since she was aware Melina and I were trying to work things out. Boze asked how it went and I expressed that things took a weird turn. Boze wanted me to tell her what I meant by “weird” and I was hesitant. I then said to Boze that I would tell her if she would let me stay at her house when I visited. This wasn’t out of nowhere, Boze offered and also encouraged me to stay at her house initially but then later decided it would be best if I got my own place so people would not make assumptions. Boze agreed to the offer and I told her that the conversation took a weird turn and Melina ended up sharing nudes. Boze was pretty disappointed in hearing the reality of the situation. She thought I hyped it up for no reason and expressed that she was hoping it would be something actually interesting. It was probably like a week or two later that I admitted that Elee also sent something. I have never screenshared any photo of Melina or Elee to Boze.
This is direct evidence of Boze admitting she was told about it and not interested.
Boze: Yeah so I eventually told Bob that, first I said yes because I just wanted, I guess, to know what was going on. So he said “Okay now I’m staying at your house blah blah he told Melina that he was staying at my house. And then as time went on I felt like that was a little inappropriate because I got afraid of people thinking like “Oh Bob is staying at Boze’s, they’re fucking. So that’s why I told him he couldn’t stay at my house anymore.
Bob: and eventually I said “Yeah, I understand.”
Boze: Yeah, so then after that he starts building this up and I’m like “Ok, alright tell me what it is.” So that was the first thing where like Melina, where he told me that it was Melina and Elee’s idea. And at this point I was really fucking annoyed that he hyped this whole thing up and then the thing was just that Elee and Melina were like sending pictures back and forth. So I didn't sound super super interested. And I was saying that, let me just finish this.
Bob: sure
(The offer to stay at her house was eventually retracted again after we both agreed I should just get an airbnb. Boze still wanted and encouraged me to visit in general.)
This story Boze said was based on her having a description of a picture of Melina where “Steven is holding her boobs.” Here is Melina describing the photo. If you heard Melina’s description here you’d be able to make the exact same claim Boze did.
Boze did not give any details beyond this. Boze brought this detail of Melina up in the call and I had no clue what Boze was talking about since I knew I had never screenshared a picture of any girl to her. In the 1/03 call I was still convinced that Boze had help from Destiny or Melina, this is due to Boze claiming she had seen the Elee photo. After going back to find the photo in question (the discord group still exists), I realized it was the funny photo that Melina sent. This photo was actually important to the group call that happened. This was the photo I had mentioned to Boze because this was the first picture Melina sent and it caused the mood shift for the entire night after laughing about it with Melina. The reason the photo is funny is because of Destiny’s face, which I made on camera to Boze while giving a similar description as Melina did on stream.
There’s a reason Melina remembered sending this photo and mentioned it was a funny one. (He showed my face in the dumb photo I sent to Melina, only fair Destiny).
Boze has the most basic description of what this photo is.
Quote from Destiny’s manifesto:
“Bob7 hops into a call with Boze where he screen-shares the conversation and reveals the nude pictures posted in the call. Boze later reveals to Melina in their conversation on January 2nd that she saw both the conversation and the nude pictures posted”
Boze’s story doesn’t make any sense given the fact there is no way I could have screenshared either of those photos without Boze seeing some REALLY explicit stuff. This is because Melina dropped 13 nude photos in that call. Luckily there’s even more evidence to show Boze’s story doesn’t line up with reality.
Going to walk you through how accusation developed.
Destiny also spliced and edited audio multiple times to try to make this story land.
The Evidence:
In this first clip Boze tries to establish this narrative that just because I’ve screenshared conversations to her that I must be lying that I didn’t screenshare the nudes. Boze also makes the point “How would I know about it.”
Things established:
Things established:
Below is where Boze’s story starts to fall apart. Boze tried to slam me on the fact that it was weird that I pressured her into letting me stay at her house again. Which I admit was weird but Boze and I later resolved that. In bringing up this point Boze accidentally revealed more truth about that night.
Things established:
Splice highlighted earlier:
Transcript from real audio with IMPORTANT CONTEXT FROM BOZE (red is what Destiny removed)
Boze: He like kept going and said this conversation was weird and something crazy happened and then I was like, I got really curious and I was like “wtf tell me, tell me” and the he was like “alright, I’ll tell you if you promise I can stay at your house in LA.”
Bob: Oh yeah, that that was weird. Yeah that’s really weird
Boze: Yeah
Melina: Really weird.
Bob: even Frank told me that was weird and I admit to that that’s weird.
Boze: Ok so there’s… so I’m happy to see some...
Austin: So that's true
Bob: Yeah, that’s true, that’s true,that’s true.
Boze: Yeah so I eventually told Bob that, first I said yes because I just wanted, I guess, to know what was going on. So he said “Okay now I’m staying at your house blah blah he told Melina that he was staying at my house. And then as time went on I felt like that was a little inappropriate because I got afraid of people thinking like “Oh Bob is staying at Boze’s, they’re fucking. So that’s why I told him he couldn’t stay at my house anymore.
Bob: and eventually I said “Yeah, I understand.”
Boze: Yeah, so then after that he starts building this up and I’m like “Ok, alright tell me what it is.” So that was the first thing where like Melina, where he told me that it was Melina and Elee’s idea. And at this point I was really fucking annoyed that he hyped this whole thing up and then the thing was just that Elee and Melina were like sending pictures back and forth. So I didn't sound super super interested. And I was saying that, let me just finish this.
Bob: sure
Melina: But Still though you’re saying that we did something like that to Boze is just like so incredibly like private, I don’t know. Because you know how Elee is so sensitive and so private about things. And like you just shared that with Boze. It’s just like, it’s just really strange.
Bob: The initial. The initially, Boze Boze Boze Boze Boze Boze Boze. You could say that in my initial framing I didn’t really include like I mainly focused on like Melina sharing pictures and I didn’t really include Elee. But then eventually later down the line I admitted that Elee also sent something.
Melina: Yeah but it’s still like, the way you were like sharing information. I’ve told you so many things. I saw you as a very very close friend. I started venting to you so much about so many private things.
Bob: Yeah
Melina: And you just spilled the beans to so many people.
Bob: Yeah if you want to say that
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There is also just no motivation for me to do this. Destiny’s claim for my motivation is pretty wild.
The logs from 11/15, the night Boze falsely claims I screenshared photos to her.
Destiny kept trying to sell the storyline that I only claimed that “I didn’t save the pictures.” Destiny argued that I was playing some word game where I avoided saying “I didn’t screenshare them.” This is DJ Destiny back at it again weaving a story with choice audio. The reason I brought up saving the pictures so many times is because Elee deleted the pictures she posted in the group call.
Destiny made sure to highlight me trying to figure out how Boze gaining the information of the Eleemoon photo actually happened. All I knew was that I didn’t do it, I was just taking my best guess how it happened.
At no point in the conversation does Boze even describe the photo of Elee. Elee also claims that she believes the photo of herself was never described to her.
I do not think that Destiny or Melina helped Boze like I had speculated as being a possibility.
It’s still a possibility but all the evidence points to Boze having never seen the photos from the information that I have.
As I’ve said, all I know to be true is that I did not screenshare any photos to Boze.
Destiny took my guess of how it happened and presented it as a false dichotomy.
Here is some bonus evidence of Boze’s story not lining up:
Boze claims I told her “hands up” when screensharing the nudes. She tells Peachachoo this is something I told Boze to do after I caught her screenshotting a conversation I was screensharing to her of an argument with Melina. The reason I screenshared this conversation to Boze was because Melina was telling me not to trust Boze. This is literally the screenshot that Boze took on 12/13, provided to Destiny by Boze to use in his manifesto.
Note at the end Peach said “I think she described it as after this situation you started telling her hands up because she told me about the gyazo situation.” (This is the full conversation about it.)
These dates don’t line up at all.
If Destiny had the truth on his side why did he feel the need to lie that I admitted to this on recording? Why did he feel the need to sell a bogus storyline that I refused to say that I screenshared the photo? Why did he feel the need to splice and edit audio multiple times about this conversation?
Bonus Meme: Clip of Destiny’s reasoning of why I screenshared nudes to Boze. Who does this???? Does Destiny do this???
Seems like it from this:
Destiny admitted to sharing Melina’s nudes without her consent during his first stream
Destiny’s projection is back at again accusing me of something that he did himself.
Destiny’s Claim: Although Boze lied here, the reason she did is because she knew what Bob did was wrong but got caught up in the mess of it! Destiny claims that I offered up information unprompted and that the only reason I had the information was because I was a producer for Austin’s show.
My Claim: Neither of Destiny's claims are true. Boze lied and twisted the reality of this to make me look like an awful person to the other girls.
First off, although the word “leaked” is used to describe it, the contents were intentionally posted to the internet by REDACTED in the past.
Boze admitted then backtracked to asking for the nudes. (which again to clarify, was a link from google images)
Destiny ignores Boze lying about the reality of the situation and tries to spin it about me being in the wrong here.
Destiny claims I offered up the information unprompted.
Destiny claims the only reason I had the information was because I was a producer for Austin’s show.
This angle that Destiny tried to spin on this is straight up false.
I’ve discussed the events of this personally with REDACTED.
This is one of the many examples of Boze lying about reality to paint me as an awful person.
This is also an example of Destiny’s rhetoric being powerful. Destiny was able to distract from the fact that Boze was lying. Destiny quickly accepted Boze lying and quickly pivoted to go back to trying to paint me as an awful person.
Destiny Claims:
This is made up of 3 portions:
Destiny’s claim: Bob leveraged his position on Austin’s show with girls.
My Claim: This did not happen.
There is straight up no evidence of me using my position.
As I’ve already stated: If you ask any of the girls who go on the show about me, the overwhelming majority would say “I’ve never spoken to Bob personally.”
If there is ANY girl who thinks I’ve done this please speak up or reach out to Austin, he takes concerns very seriously.
The main form of communication with contestants is through the GetOnAustinShow twitter account, which I was not the main user of. The only people I’ve communicated to about the show directly are people that I’m already friends with.
All of the friendships that I’ve made are unrelated to my position with Austin.
The Evidence on how I met each of my girl friends from twitch:
Redacted 2: Don’t want to give info or else it will reveal who it is. I did not work with Austin at the time of meeting this person. We’ve always been on good terms.
There’s only one other girl friend that I have from twitch and she is not related to this. We’ve always been on good terms. (Friends for 8 months)
Never got the chance to get too close to Peachachoo (knew her for <1month). I was on Melina’s stream together with Peach where we talked for the first time. I messaged her first after Melina said we should do a stream together. I thought all of our interactions outside the drama were good ones, she agreed to this and said that I seemed very genuine.
Although some of my friends do appear on the show, that is natural because a large amount of Just Chatting streamers do go on the show. I have never let my relationship with someone affect them going on the show. There's plenty of people that I’m not the biggest fan of personally that still go on the show. As long as the people are responsible to the platform, it doesn’t matter what I personally think of them.
The deeper connections that I’ve made are due to me doing personal streams with these girls and talking to them off stream afterwards. There’s overwhelming evidence that these people spoke to me because they enjoyed it, not because I had something to offer them. While working for Austin I didn’t even have the power to put someone directly onto the show, Austin always has the final decision.
There is no evidence of me using my position as leverage.
Destiny made this strong claim with no communication with any of the girls in question. No communication with Austin. Destiny just presented this as fact while the evidence makes it abundantly clear that this is not true. Destiny also failed to provide any evidence of girls saying I used my position with them.
The only thing Destiny presented was Ofelia being afraid how this would affect her when she was working under the framework that the lies about me were true and mentioned the Austin Show.
Ofelia is NOT bringing this point up unprompted which I went over here.
Destiny doesn’t even have knowledge of my job and my levels of power on Austin’s team.
Destiny claim: Bob sexually harassed talent. This presumably includes (1) the Elee “pressured”, (2) the Ofelia harassment situation, situation, and (3) implied other situations.
My claim: There is no pattern of behavior that can be found of harassment. The accusation of harassing Elee and Ofelia come from Destiny not the girls. Elee does not believe it was harrassment. The Ofelia allegation comes from a one off instance in which Ofelia felt pressured being told that it was assault. Destiny even acknowledges in his document that Boze was calling it sexual assault. Ofelia and I resolved it and remained friends. There is no pattern in my history of me being inappropriate sexually.
Addressing the Ofelia Situation:
Destiny made a big point of all the “awful things” I said about Ofelia behind her back, he made a big point of the sex dream. The sex dream was also a big example of Boze, Melina, and Peach used to say that I was shit talking other girls behind their back. Meanwhile these are things I’ve said to Ofelia personally but also on stream with her as well.
The Evidence:
I met Ofelia on the “Roommate Royale” in which we were both contestants. After the show she messaged me for thoughts on how she did and we became friends from there. We messaged a good bit in dm’s, 7,100 messages before January. I always thought Ofelia was pretty funny and I would run ideas and jokes by her a bunch. We hung out in calls sometimes during November and December. Our friendship was always very platonic. At most there was mild non sexual flirting during late December.
Destiny did not communicate at all with Ofelia personally about the situation. Destiny completely ignored Ofelia’s request to not be included in his attack against me. Destiny invalidated Ofelia speaking up after. Destiny showed no empathy for someone he claimed was a victim. The audio that was used of Ofelia was during a multiple hour call in which Boze was spreading lies about me. Destiny used choice audio from Ofelia to fit his narrative. Destiny had no desire to consider the context since the context went directly against the story he was trying to sell.
Anyone who watched Ofelia’s stream addressing this drama understood her resentment for Destiny’s actions. The way Destiny twisted and weaponized Ofelia’s story is inexcusable.
Out of respect for Austin, who always wanted to stay out of the drama, I will not go into the exact timeline of when I got fired. I have not lied or got information wrong regarding this matter. I was fired due to the drama.
(It’s a bad look when there’s insane allegations about a producer from your show regardless if they are true or not.)
Also going to address a narrative that Destiny pushed in this section since it’s relevant.
Quote from Destiny’s manifesto:
“On the night of January 3rd, Boze and Melina agree that it’s incredibly toxic that Bob7 is soliciting nudes from and talking shit about so many different girls in the Austin show ecosystem while simultaneously working as a producer for him.”
My Claim: There is no evidence of this.
Who???????
The two people I asked for nudes were two people that were sexually explicit with me first and they both already mentioned nudes being an option. I have never asked for a nude from someone who hasn’t explicity expressed interest in sex. Calling Melina part of the show ecosystem is pretty meaningless.
Destiny had people walking away from his stream thinking I was a prolific nude collector. Meanwhile the only nudes that exist are the ones I’ve received from Melina. They only exist in discord logs, I can not delete her messages. Besides Melina the only other event was Eleemoon sending a singular picture in a group chat with Melina and me that she deleted. This is another example of Destiny running with a storyline with no evidence to back it up. Destiny made no attempt to find out if these claims are true. This would be a simple one for him to fact check. This is a pattern of behavior from Destiny of just saying shit with no proof, weaving his story of half-truths and lies.
Destiny’s claims:
This is made up of 3 portions:
Only Ofelia can speak to this so below are statements she has made publicly regarding the matter.
Ofelia’s first statement regarding this matter
Ofelia did a stream after Destiny’s manifesto to try to bring more clarity to the situation.
These are quotes from the stream:
I believe that they have done their best to not talk about me, and only at most, try to set the record straight about false statements made in regards to me and my situation. As well, I will not deny there was communication between me and them which allowed me to get the information I needed to come to my own conclusions, however, there was the alleged group call between us all. There was no manipulation”
I could easily go along with the narrative of "Ofeliabear got mindfucked" but I am not, putting me more at risk, I feel, when I could have continued as the victim of everyone, and reaped the benefits from all sides.”
Destiny’s claim: I manipulated my victims into changing their stories.
My Claim: The reason they spoke up was because I showed them the evidence of Boze lying.
Destiny says it himself that all the girls “flipped sides.” This isn’t because I’m manipulative. This is because I showed them the proof that they were being lied to by Boze. I actually didn’t communicate that much with the girls at this time. They knew Boze was lying but they did not know the reality of much outside of that. I never cleared up every allegation made against me. I did not want to put them in a situation to defend me publicly when I was being painted as a “MASTER MANIPULATOR.” Putting them in a situation where they want to defend me when anyone who speaks out is getting shit on publicly for it also seemed unfair. Just look at the treatment of the girls once they dared to question Destiny’s judgement. They got harassed, a lot.
Boze rounded up these girls and told them lies that I leak nudes. Not only that but Boze also lied telling these girls that I was saying AWFUL things about them.
Eleemoon and Ofelia have requested to have the full audio from that girl group call. The reason they won’t give it to either girl is because it will give proof to exactly what happened. Instead they use out of context clips to fit the narrative they are trying to sell. Keep in mind all the recordings they used is after they lied and convinced these girls that I’m a monster.
There is no chance full unedited versions of these recordings are ever released given Destiny’s willingness to edit audio to fit his narrative.
Boze told these girls a lot of reckless lies behind the scenes that were easy to debunk. It was easy to prove that Boze was lying with simple honest communication, something Destiny’s circle was uninterested in.
Destiny straight up harassed these girls who spoke up. Destiny had to invalidate the opinions of anyone who spoke up against him because it would expose the bullshit he was trying to spin.
Destiny grossly misrepresented Kacey’s audio to make it sound like she was sharing her story when she was actually trying to make sense of what she was being told. This can be seen here.
Destiny always hated me but thankfully Boze and Melina would defend me to him despite Destiny arguing that I was crazy.
Melina and Boze both are in Georgia for Destiny’s canvassing event.
On 1/02 is when Boze and Melina finally meet and they have a 3 hour recorded conversation. This is supposed to be the conversation where “Boze and Melina find out that they both hate me.” The information that I have points to this not being true. Neither of the immediate responses of the girls seems negative.
Destiny claims that Melina and Boze hate me due to their 3 hour conversation together.
There seems to be an attitude shift in Boze after she speaks with Destiny and then also Peach.
This is because this 3 hour call never supports their narrative.
The call either shows that both the girls did not in fact hate me like Destiny says.
OR
They both are mad and it contains Boze lying a fuck ton that I can disprove (this would also have to include both Melina and Boze pretending the conversation went fine in DMs to me.)
OR
A mix of both
Boze was often told by Destiny that I was a manipulative and awful person. Boze finally bought into this idea since she thought I was going around to people calling her crazy. In reality I had only spoken to Peach and she told Melina, that’s it.
The blame for everything then shifted all on to me and Boze started to show negative logs of me to Melina. This is something Boze predicted would happen, she says that Destiny won’t blame himself or Melina so he can only funnel the blame towards me.
It was then easy for Peach to buy into the narrative since Destiny, Melina, and Boze were against me.
Melina had expressed to me in the past that Destiny has wanted to cancel me for a while. I never took it seriously since there was nothing to cancel me over and all the girls had a very positive impression of me and defended me to him. Destiny now had the girls on his side and was able to take action. Destiny had both Melina and Peach record conversations with me which can be seen in his manifesto. In these conversations the girls were asking very pointed questions almost like an interrogation. Turns out Destiny was coaching them on what questions to ask. I did my best to engage honestly with this ambush of accusations. Later this day Boze started to reach out to my friends from twitch asking “Has Bob ever said anything bad about me.” Meanwhile Boze told all these girls awful lies about me to them. On 1/03 Boze created a group call where she told all the girls that I was sharing nudes, calling them all awful things behind their backs. Boze after laying this all down asked the girls if they had any potentially problematic interactions. This led to the Ofelia recordings that can be seen in Destiny’s video. On the night of 1/03 a group call happened where I got ambushed with false allegations from Boze.
Boze claims that she needs Steve’s help and that I am full on coming after her.
I started recording on 1/03 since I knew there was being lies told about me, and I needed to defend myself. After this point, none of the girls outside of Destiny’s circle wanted anything to go public. Destiny clearly wanted to go public anyway and did his stream on 1/04. If Destiny just talked about relationship drama, I wouldn’t have cared and just left it alone. The problem came from Destiny referencing this group call and the nude allegation and also mentioned that if I defended myself he would “nuke” my life. This led to the public being convinced that I was a predator. I now needed to defend myself. I pushed out my initial defense and eventually Destiny double downed with even more false allegations giving the public the impression again that I’m a predator.
Here we are now.
In this next audio from the 1/03 call, I confront Boze on a log where she says she would defend herself at all costs. When I bring this up, Boze makes up a story about the conversation we were having. She said we were talking about “how I was making Ofelia uncomfortable.” Ofelia was literally being used as a placeholder name in this conversation since Boze knew we were friends. Ofelia can speak to the fact that there was nothing even close to a negative interaction at this point. The conversation in reality was about Destiny and Melina. I actually got the framing of the conversation a little wrong from memory but I just knew it was about Destiny and Melina. These logs were after Melina told me a personal story about Destiny she had no business doing. I fucked up by asking Boze a very leading question to see if she knew about the story. Luckily Boze already knew the story but it made Boze LIVID at Melina for telling me about it. That’s what the conversation was actually about, that’s why Boze is so negative to Melina in the logs below.
This is a clear example of how they twist the stories to suit their narrative. Once the real context of the situation is added, the point that is being driven falls apart, and they move onto the next point. This is a PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR that you can see throughout their streams.
Follow these bullet points as you listen along:
The implication is insane that I’m trying to go after her or dig up dirt. I’m defending myself, not attacking Boze.
I just want to emphasize in this audio clip she references how Boze and Melina had to “talk him off the ledge.” It’s very obvious that Destiny was the one pushing for everything to go public.
Destiny wants to cancel me (AUDIO)
Notice how no one says “my main concern is that you’re a sexual predator. No one brings up the Ofelia situation being an issue. At this point they had all the knowledge of talking to the other girls. That’s because Bob being a predator is a made up storyline that was constructed for Destiny’s “Bob7 Manifesto”. The only information they gained after this is that the “victims” were on good terms with me and didn’t agree with Destiny’s side.
Given the audio features in this clip (Melina is cutting out due to her Internet, Boze has the same quality and volume, while Peach is loud and clear), Peachachoo was the one who recorded the girl group call. This means Peach has direct access to the audio and there’s nothing stopping her from figuring out how out the audio was being misrepresented. Peachachoo giving this audio to Destiny enabled him to go public with Ofelia’s story without her consent and allowed Destiny to cut things out of context to fit his narrative.
(Boze/Melina having their own recording is a possibility, but it is clear the one being used is from Peach)
This call was meant to be a safe space and Ofelia claims she asked specifically if it was being recorded and was told no.
Although both of them took actions that weren’t great (lying and being complicit in lies) and made almost no effort into figuring out the truth of anything, this can be the result of them being far too trusting in the wrong people.
Approaching it as charitably as possible, both of them might not have been aware of the reality of the large lies being told.
I really hope they engage with the overwhelming amount of evidence.
An apology to those harmed and a more honest rundown of events from their point of view would be a good start.
Hard to see a future where Destiny and Boze admit “ya we lied a fuck ton.” It would be cool if they did, that however wouldn’t absolve them of the responsibility of their actions.
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BigBossBoze launched serious false allegations both in private and in public.
Destiny's actions in the Bob7 Manifesto Stream:
If they deleted the logs, I would not have been able to defend myself.
If I didn’t record the 3 hour accusation call, I would not have been able to defend myself.
If I didn’t have the help of incredible friends, I would not have been able to defend myself.
I am incredibly lucky to be able to be in a situation to show the truth.
Most people would have been bullied into submission.
Thank you to those who helped me.
Thank you to everyone who took the time to read my words.
Thank you for hearing out the truth.
Destiny has nothing real left to say. Destiny might lie more rather than address any point I made like last time. There’s a couple things that I chose not to include out of respect for others' privacy. If Destiny goes for those it will be easy to respond to. I am not leaving them out for my own benefit.
I think the most likely response from Destiny is to attack my character again because he can’t blame Boze after taking stances like this. Will Destiny triple down and attack the credibility of anyone who disagrees with him while ignoring the overwhelming evidence against him? Will Destiny use more splice/selective audio rather than give the correct context in order to spin a narrative??? I guess we’ll find out.
Boze predicted the massive projection.
I used this part of the call for a couple different points, here’s the full context if anyone wants to listen to it.
