#157 - StarCast: “Title”

• Garrett • Kyle


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Warp Prism Buff Goes Live

“We will be closely monitoring both ladder and tournament games to make sure everything goes as expected once the changes go live.”

“As for the other changes in the balance test map, we're still looking into them.”

NASL to Host Season 2 of WCS America

While the team gets ready to ramp up for the Season 2 offline events, Blizzard will operate the WCS America Season 2 Challenger League and Premier League round of 32.”

“NASL will produce the offline Premier League Ro16 August 5th through 8th, with the Regional Finals on Saturday & Sunday, August 10th & 11th.”


TotalBiscuits Thoughts :

This is a good thing for an awful lot of reasons, but I think what most people aren't going to grasp is how good it is for MLG. The preconception is that WCS is a bag of money on a plate to any organization that gets it and holy shit is that completely inaccurate. WCS is a massive resource drain on any organization that hosts it. Blizzard do not in fact give you all the money you could ever need to run the event and MLG was put in a ridiculously difficult position to recoup costs... The amount of money MLG had to spend with no possibility of return to run WCS was outrageous....

MLG was reluctant to take the event as they wanted to focus on what they're good at, their regular live Pro Circuit tournaments. They were pressured by Blizzard to take on WCS. NASL was shut out in the process.

MLG got saddled with the consequences of Blizzards decision not to region-lock in the worst possible way and for some reason were blamed for it. Some people might think Blizzard kicked MLG out. I'm sure that's a nice narrative for the hivemind but nope, try the other way around.

You wanna know why MLG announced Anaheim so late, why the format is the way it is and why the prizepool isn't as large? WCS.

NASL is in a better position to produce the kind of format that WCS demands. They have more experience, 2 casting teams, the production crew and the facilities to do that daily content. It's what NASL are. NASL live finals are hardly the best things in the world, more often than not lack-luster, it's not their speciality. Their speciality is that daily show and the supporting content that is created around it.

Which Means MLG is Out
“It was a pleasure working with Blizzard on the inaugural season, however given the structure of the relationship and the impact on the organization, players and community, we feel that it will better serve the eSports ecosystem to run tournaments independently.”

MLG Spring Championship this weekend.


MLG Spring Championship is this weekend

This is the big LAN event with the 128 player open bracket!

Players I’m excited for

Grubby, iNcontroL’s playing!, Polt, Thorzain, LzGaMeR, Suppy, Sasquatch, Vibe and Jaedong!


Flash and KT Rolster will start streaming on Twitch.tv!

“He and his StarCraft II teammates will now gain the support from Razer, which sponsored the team's League of Legends squad earlier this year.”

“This will mark the first time that a player from the Korean eSports Association (KeSPA) will live-stream their games on Twitch. Known for intense all-day practice regimens and various team restrictions, professional players in South Korea under KeSPA have not been able to live stream their games as players in the West have done, or even fellow South Korean players not under KeSPA's rule.”


Complexity’s Sasquatch talks misconceptions of the pro-scene

Teammates always practice together.

I think this got somewhat debunked when people saw the IdrA/Demuslim stuff, but there's a lot of other players who just don't want to practice with teammates and prefer to just ladder. Just because someone joins a team with koreans on it doesn't mean they actually get the benefit of practicing with them. Usually language/server barriers are the biggest barrier between two players playing with each other often.

Most teams offer support to improve your play such as coaching/creating practice schedules or training regiments/etc.

While I think most people know no team outside of korea has a true coach to support the players, some people don’t seem to know that on pretty much any foreign team you’re basically on your own in terms of how/when you practice if you’re residing in NA/EU. I don’t know of any team outside of korean ones that enforces a particular practice schedule outside of maybe some internal ranking matches. Sometimes weekly or daily practice groups will form but I haven’t seen them last much more than a month.

A big name sponsor equates to a large amount of support.

Just because a team has a big name sponsor on their jersey doesn't necessarily mean they're getting a lot of support from them. The sponsorship could be as small as getting gear, clothing, etc.

Ladder ranking is an accurate list of players ranked by skill.

This really only relates to the North American ladder because I’m not nearly as familiar with the KR and EU ladder. Pros treat ladder differently from each other. Some players truly care about their ranking/win rate so they will always do the builds they’re most consistent/confident with, while others treat it purely as practice so they will try new things and experiment. Others just purely don’t care and don’t play ladder that often or even at all (although most do). The top of GM is usually just the people who care about having that status the most, sprinkled with a few of the really talented players.

Pros don't see what you say about them.

Outside of a few pros, almost every player I know reads reddit/TL threads about matches they played in to see what fans said, and some will even go as far as to watch vods of their own matches just to see what commentators said about them during the games. If you tweet a player they will for sure read it and some (A LOT) search their names on TL to see where their names are popping up.

Players always get hardware/gear from sponsors.

In general you can expect a keyboard/mouse/headset/ from a team, but just because a team is sponsored by a hardware company doesn't mean the player has that specific brand of hardware at home.


The Results

DreamHack Summer Open

Who is StarDust?

mYinsanity_StarDust won DreamHack Summer and I’ve never heard of him or his team before. This of course lead to some digging. StarDust is from South Korea. He originally played for Team LighT before they disbanded.

He’s been quite busy since Proleague’s first StarCraft 2 season which was actually a hybrid season back in 2011-2012. And he beat Jaedong in the 2012 OSL KeSPA Preliminaries.

mYinsanity is a professional team based in Switzerland that got it’s start in Counter Strike: Source.

TLO was the star for me

TLO made it to the Round of 8! His burrowed Banelings were beautiful against Squirtle.

He was knocked out by his teammate Taeja, who proxy 2-Rax’ed him and he couldn’t have been a better sport about it.


WCS Korea, Season 2

Best of 1 Format.

Gomtv piggybacked on OGN.

Round of 32 is finished and the results are pretty much as expected:


Red Bull Training Grounds

Eight players faced off in a group stage format. Every game each player won awarded them $100.

Sound (T) and Golden (Z) faced off in Best of 7 for the finals. Golden won 4-2


Homestory Cup

Poor TLO just can’t catch a break against his teammate TaeJa, losing to him in the semifinals. TaeJa then went on to take the finals 4-3 against Snute.



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