Present:  Simon Poole, Michael Collinson, Dermot McNally, Oliver Kühn, Paul Norman

Apologies:

Minutes by: Michael

1. Adoption of Minutes of last meeting

https://docs.google.com/a/osmfoundation.org/document/d/1X7vAOXg7O7SGiGgUV8_2C_1LtmNt7mgCmoh5YYm9IvY/edit 17th Sept

Note: This editable minute link is for LWG members only. A public version is normally available at http://www.osmfoundation.org

Proposed: Oliver

Seconded: Paul

Accepted

2. MATTERS ARISING (open action items from previous meetings)

• 2013-07-30 Mike update wiki re Derived DB versus Produced Work (done 2013-10-01)
• 2013-08- 27 Mike/Paul DMCA procedure doc:

• - Check that counsel OK with us publishing takedown notices (done)
• - Check that we have procedure to deal with counter notices (done)
• - We should not block accounts unless they are re-uploading data. (done)
• - Generate templates for various stages

• 2013-08- 27 Mike - Facebook logins: Ask legal counsel whether there is any general risk to the project and its data if Facebook feel we do not match their policies.
• 2013-08- 27 Mike - Forward “About Boxes” item to legal-talk  (done 2013-10-01)
• 2013-08- 27 Mike - Community Guidelines/Norms - Process Formalisation: Publish what we decided at 2013-07-30 meeting (done - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Community_Guidelines/How_We_Create_Community_Guidelines )
• 2013-08- 27 All - Review Paul’s paper “Geocoding, ODbL and derivative works“ https://hackpad.com/Geocoding-ODbL-and-derivative-works-bVZap3hMc67
• 2013-09-17 Use of DMCA take down form for non-copyright matters:

• Mike Add legal@ email to the page.
• Mike Add a brief “How To” or link to How To on using Notes for corrections to a particular location.
• Done: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Takedown_procedure/When_To_Use_The_Form

• 2013-09-17 Wikimapia

• Paul: Find out exactly where and specific example(s). (done)
• Mike: Get in touch with Wikimapia founders to express our concerns: please comply with our license or remove the data. (done)

3. Finalise today's agenda

4. Trademark Registration (Simon)

Registration expansion based on the EU “OpenStreetMap” trademark is in progress. Original plans called for a registration in Japan however the JP local chapter has already registered such a mark, we will be holding back on our own registration till the situation is clarified.

USA registration is still in work and progressing slowly.

5. LWG 2014 Budget and Action Plan (Mike)

https://docs.google.com/a/osmfoundation.org/document/d/1qRH5-LtzXiLhFFoo4iDu8mKfIUv1dhLYTwRZxBgNhJ8/edit

We reviewed Mike’s draft and hashed out a rough budget.

6.  DMCA takedown procedure document (Mike)

https://docs.google.com/a/osmfoundation.org/document/d/1YrbVQMpPiGyA5o_AW1HVX8Yd5e7iGgv2P7UfBdIC5bo/edit

Nearly there, Mike and Paul will tidy up over the draft over next week. When both agree, it will be submitted to the board for formal endorsement. After that it will be placed permanently on the osmfoundation.org site.

Mike - Low priority. Legal counsel ... under DMCA we really *must* restore data if a contributor files a counter notice? No discretion despite CTs saying that we do?

7. Privacy Issues API/Planet Dump

(open from  2013-08-27 meeting)

8. AOB

• Should we permanently ban Contributors who deliberately copy from copyright infringing sources to see if they can get away with it? Consensus: Yes. It’s LWG’s opinion that this a form of undermining the community effort and we have no guarantee that they will stop.

• We have no formal policy on requests to remove data for safety or privacy reasons. A matter for further discussion. Initial consensus is that this is a slippery slope and should be avoided. If something is apparent on the ground from publicly available sources or from areas accessible to the general public, then it is mappable.

Next Meeting:

Tuesday 5th November at 19:00 GMT/UTC (winter time in Europe & N. America)

We will reserve this meeting for Geocoding.