Thalassocracy 2 - Water Rework Info

Be aware that the Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition “Chronicles: Alexander the Great“ and “Chronicles: Battle for Greece” will continue to use its own separate unique naval system independent from this.

Design Changes

  • A new ship-line has been added, the Hulk, which counters the fire ships and is countered by galley-line.
  • Ship stats have been modified across the board, relationships and roles are largely similar to before.
  • The second page at the Dock has been removed and the locations of many upgrades and ships adjusted (You are welcome T90).
  • New Naval Technologies have been introduced, and existing naval technologies have been updated.

Units

  • Ship statistics have been revamped to no longer rely on arcane calculations of different attack and armor bonuses, and have been greatly simplified.
  • Ship combat now only uses either pierce damage (Galleys and Equivalent Unique Ships) or melee damage (Fire Ship, Demolition Ship, Hulk, Cannon Galleons), and a single case of attack bonus (Long Ranged Ship class).
  • Not all statistics changed (like ship HP) are reflected here, as ship relationships between one another are kept broadly unchanged.

New Ship line: Hulk/War Hulk/Carrack

  • Short ranged ship, attacks with ropes and hooks to mimic boarding.
  • Counters Fire Ships, weak to Galleys.
  • Benefits from Melee Attack Upgrades.
  • Upgraded alongside Fire Ships and Galleys.

Demolition Ship

  • Reduced damage to fit into a more situational role.
  • Upgraded as a single line.
  • No longer available to civilizations with a Unique Ship (Vikings, Portuguese, Koreans).

Fishing Ship

  • Can garrison into Docks.
  • Queue Fish Traps and Toggle Automatic Fish are set on the Fishing Ships themselves.
  • Receives Ship Armor class.

Galley-line

  • Receives Long Ranged Ship armor class.
  • Gains bonus against Long Ranged Ship.
  • Loses bonus against all ships.

Fire-line

  • Gains bonus against Long Ranged Ship.
  • Loses bonus against all ships.
  • Damage type changed to melee.

Cannon Galleon (And Equivalents)

  • Receives Long Ranged Ship armor class.

Trade Cog

  • Now can select between 5 different options for gold/wood ratio on the Trade Cog UI.
  • Selection affects all units globally.
  • Some trade cog information in the game is displayed incorrectly, we are aware

Buildings

Dock

  • Docks can now be garrisoned by Fishing Ships (5 Garrison space).
  • Garrisoned Docks shoot arrows like garrisoned Town Centers.
  • 6 Range, cannot be increased by Ranged upgrades.

Technologies

Careening/Dry Dock

  • Moved to the University.
  • Dry Dock effect changed from Ships +15% faster → Ships +1 Pierce Armor (Same as Careening).
  • Careening cost changed from 250f 150g → 100f 200g.
  • Dry Dock cost changed from 600f 400g → 200f 400g.

Shipwright

  • Moved to the University

Gillnets

  • Effect changed from Gather +15% faster → Gather +10% faster and carry +5.
  • Cost changed from 150f 200w → 100f 125w.

War Galley/Galleon

  • Name changed to Medium Warships/Heavy Warships.
  • Upgrades the Galley-, Fire-, and Hulk-lines together.
  • Medium Warships cost changed from 230f 100g → 150w 100g.
  • Heavy Warships cost changed from 400w 315f → 400w 315g.

                 

Heavy Demolition Ship

  • Cost changed from 200w 300g → 250w 350g.

New Technologies

Fishing Lines

  • Precursor to Gillnets.
  • 50f 100w (II): Fishing Ships Gather +10% faster and carry +5.

Carvel Hull/Clinker Construction

  • Available at the University.
  • 150f 100w (III): Ships move +10% faster.
  • 350f 200w (IV): Ships move +10% faster.

         

 Siphons/Incendiaries

  • Available at the University.
  • 100f 175g (III): Fire Ships gain an explosive charge attack.
  • 200f 325g (IV): Fire Ships detonate when sunk, dealing damage around them.

       

 Demolition Ship

  • Standalone upgrade to Demolition Rafts.
  • 150w 100g (III).

Civilization Specific Changes

Vikings

  • Gain access to Fire Galley-line.
  • Lose access to Demolition Raft-line.
  • Ship discount bonus changed from 15/15/20% → 10/15/20%.

Japanese

  • Fishing Ship bonus changed from +100% HP, +2 pierce armor → +100% HP.

Portuguese

  • Lose access to Demolition Raft-line.
  • Ship HP bonus changed from +10% → +10/15/20%.
  • Carrack Unique Technology Removed.
  • New Technology: Circumnavigation (250f 150w): Sets the entire map to explored; Ships train +33% faster.

Gurjaras

  • Fishing Ship can garrison into Docks bonus → Docks can garrison +5 Fishing Ships.

Italians

  • University and Dock technologies discount changed from 33% → 25%.

Wu

  • Careening/Dry Dock cheaper and available one age earlier → Careening/Dry Dock free.

Aztecs, Cumans, Inca, Maya

  • Gain access to Cannon Galleon.