Latest Update posted on: 16 / 06 / 2013 ( 20:22 UTC+1 )

Latest Changes: 03 / 01 / 2014

 “In Zeta-ese "soon" defines a paradoxal-, indefinite ammount of time that is indefinetly certain and accurate.

Further approximations of Zeta-ese "soon" can be described as "rather sooner than later" which then recursively revolves in itself in an endless indefinite loop where soon gets replaced by “rather sooner than later”:

I.e. "Rather (rather (rather (....)) than later) than later) than later" so that soon becomes centralized”
- a satiric comment on GLP by MoreAboutTunnelVision (2013).

Author’s note:  I moved all updates below the main letter since this document reached its final state. Some passages were roughly re-edited for future readers who may find their way here to make understanding more easy.

For those who wish to read it in its original form, Hydra has kindly provided back-ups that can be found here: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1899799/pg13

Discussions and public reactions about this document:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1899799/pg1
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message814739/pg1065

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Earth-Changes-Pole-Shift/160997177261147 (owned by myself)

http://bit.ly/NIeCOh

Frequent discussion (DebunkerTalk 24/7 - A debunker’s paradise):
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message814739/pg1065?viewallpages=1

Also informative in this context:
http://www.cosmophobia.org/

http://www.cosmophobia.org/nancy-lieder

http://www.zetafart.com/  - collection of many first-hand testimonies

http://website.lineone.net/~brian_gillbanks/tttakeover.htm

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1149282/pg1

http://orange-papers.org/orange-cult_q0.html

Want to Contact me?   service.giga(at)gmail.com

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Original edit: 16 / 06 / 2012  -            re-edit: 31 / 08 / 2012

The Story


Hi,

I am a longtime, former Moderator and this is my story:

After copy & pasting this text and sending out a broadcast to all members, I will resign from my post because I can no longer tolerate lying to thousands of innocent people or furthermore support Nancy twisting facts to keep her ideologies exempt from disconfirmation.


Some of you may wonder how this can be true for Nancy and let me assure you that I will be able to provide evidence about the case and you will be able to reproduce the entire analysis.

But firstoff, who am I? And why am I resigning in this matter?

On the PoleShift-Ning I was known as „Co S“,http://poleshift.ning.com/profile/CoS and I have been a Moderator for more than two years now. (As current and other former Moderators can confirm if needed).

I've been greatly involved in the overall design and organization of the Ning, exemplary the Mainlogo, the FAQ, most of the Moderatingstaffs postings ( and their design),  or all the code based stuff (HTML, CSS, Javascript, JQuery ), creating the Facebook-page or being involved behind the scene with overall management. (If needed I can prove all of these statements).
I should note that everyone of the Moderation (except Nancy), is 100% authentic in their daily behaviour - i.e. the Moderators are fully convinced of their belief.

They would be considered “people like you and me” -  they are intelligent, dedicated, creative, productive and efficient in the overall, however they deeply lack critical thinking when it goes to ZT - where questioning is not allowed.

Since everyone of the current moderators (as far as I can tell) is fully believing in Nancy’s “belief system”, they feel obligated to warn humanity of an impending passage of “Planet X” and are convinced they are helping people by doing this.

Note that I will respect the privacy of the Moderators and not reveal any persons true Name, E-Mail or other details.

Also, I will need to be careful because Nancy is aggressive about these matters and may try means of stopping or countering the following information from being known by claiming Copyright-complaints or other nonsense in this matter.


1. What happens when you catch Nancy lying

When one starts to carefully analyse Nancy's work, one will find out that she cannot stand it.

Whenever you confront Nancy with disagreeing facts you have a good chance to get to know her true nature.


If Nancy gets confronted with the truth she either accepts it quietly (let dust settle on it), or she hunts you down by using her common fallacies of logic and rhetoric (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies):

In all: Means of manipulation to stop you questioning ZT and blindly believe anything Nancy says.

To those ZT-„belivers“ out there, you may ask yourself the question:

Would you consider yourself, to be an independent thinker?

Does the feeling go in the direction of „yes“?

How can this be true when questioning ZT is in any case to be avoided (even with yourself)? Does this indicate rationability, transparency, criticism?

No way.

Could a 70+ year old woman really lie to thousands of people by enforcing a “cult belief-system” and selling it as a “real deal” predicting a threat to the entire planet?

You decide - after you’ve read this document.

Could this document be a government-BlackOperation to spread doubts you may ask?

Of course she would want you to believe this, although it is unlikely that she will claim this because she knows that I can provide evidence in my case with first-hand-experience and physical copies.

Nancy is not foolish, she is quite clever in dealing with such problems so it shouldn’t be suprising that she already took care of some sensitive information on the private Administrator-Ning but fortunately I made backups before, ironically as a response to eventual gov attacks that she suggested her Moderators could happen which of course were just an invention of Nancy. Karma I guess.

What evidence would there be to hide, you may ask?

Nancy removed the Admin-Neumayer-discussion (supposedly showing the Dark Twin - a fictional planet behind Earth’s orbit)  from the Moderators-Ning, because Nancy had to alter public ZetaTalk that day - as some of you have noticed and recorded!

She removed this private discussion (among Moderators) because logical arguments and evidence proved her previous ZetaTalk wrong -  the reason she had to alter already public  ZetaTalk since it eventually became too suspicious.

Now why would there be any reason to remove a posting that was based on nothing but solid factual analysis, other than hiding the fact that she is not in contact with any aliens?

Are there any space problems on the Admin Ning?

No way.

Nancy also removed the recent most popular discussion on the Mod-Ning, the  venus-transite-collection, where lots of Moderators participated in providing analysis and images (that again were based on nothing but the truth) for the same reasons.

It proved that Nancy had no idea what she was talking about, while crying wolf in public that Venus path supposedly „went wrong“, while it went perfectly normal and can be confirmed - As you will see later on during the analysis.

The discussion kept record that Venus did exactly traveled as predicted. ( As can be seen both on SDO images or the resulting „Waveform“ on Proba2 images)

such as including the fact that Nancy mistakenly “confirmed” the wave-form on Proba2 images as a the real deal per the Zetas ( „the venus wobble“), while it clearly turned out to be logically related to Proba-2’s polar-orbit.
It also kept record that she later claimed Kojima (a smart member)’s images the (new) real deal showing the “sinewave”- even though they came a day after Nancy initially claimed the Proba-2 Images per the Zetas “as the real deal”.

Again, there would be no reason to delete any of these discussions containing careful analysis that were based on nothing but the TRUTH!

However Nancy forgot to remove some other highly interesting Admin-discussions that the remaining Moderators will be able to read and analyse.

Also, YOU will be able to confirm that ZetaTalk is not based on FACTS with concrete evidence in the analysis below.

Fortunately Nancy has provided official “ZetaTalk” to all of these matters, so there’s no way she can let them all dissappear!

But lets go a step back for a moment:

You may think what Im saying here cant be true, not for Nancy, not for ZetaTalk which seemingly shows so much correlation?

Yes. Nancy laid her groundwork extremly careful and she turned out to be a master at presenting half-truths to the public (including to the moderators).
Furthermore she inserts clever-suggestions into existing knowledge and present it in a repackaged format with a lof “hope” , “trust”, “SciFi” and “drama”, or “doom and gloom” and “the ultimate truth” - to name a few examples..
Her claims are sometimes immaginable, seemingly rational - though they mostly are impossible-to-verify-statements to exclude any possibility of disconfirmation.

“God exists. Or prove me otherwise…” (logical fallacy)

Another technique she uses is intimidation, e.g. the aliens-know-better with the purpose to scare people right off as the desired thinking is

„These super-brains must know better since im just a human - even if it contradicts logic or rational thinking!?”“

Nancy managed to fill a niché for people who heared rumors about doom and gloom, feeling lied by governments, who came across alleged information about UFO-sightings, aliens, conspiracies, spirituality, and many speculative claims on the internet by providing an “ultimate truth” to seemingly connect all puzzle-pieces, including other suggestive aspects as the infamous “Planet-X”, “the pole-shift”, “Transformation to fourth density” or “simulated Orbit” theories -  which in the overall may seem consistent but of course turn out to be deceptive and not correlating with physical reality as they are just based on one another - a house of cards.


Methods of Manipulation

Self-Suggestion
Alone assuming the information is relayed by highly-Intelligent Aliens make a difference as to subliminally bring the reader to question its authenticity less, understand it in another way, or percieve it at something that goes beyond full-understanding - totally eliminating any rational-, independent thinking even if it contradicts our physical reality.


Aliens should oblique the same universal forces - shouldn’t they`?

How about “reverted self-suggestion”? -

What is the main-message you get when visiting ZT or the PS-Ning?

DON’T PANIC!

There will be a PoleShift but there are Safe-Locations!


Did you noticed the different colors I used on the message?

- Subconsciously inducing fear

Hey! Planet X is going to kill you if you don’t start preparations!

See the wild weather? Its all because of Planet X!
But you don’t need to worry!  Nancy has the one real information to survive it!

HURRY UP though, as Planet X is already in the solar-system!    

That is basically the message of ZetaTalk. If you want to put it even more simple:

“YOU will be having a BAD future, if you don’t do this... be like this.. and avoid this..”  

- Hope for the “right”,  confusion for the “death”, curse to the “bad”

on the other hand the suggestions of ZT subliminally relay something like the following:

“Do you realize all the misery in the world?
PX is going to wipe out 90-percent of humanity so earth will get a “RESET” and if you are the “right” type of guy - “right”  in the sense of social orientation - you may have a wonderful new life. If you are “undecided” you will be having a chaotic future and don’t allow yourself to die or you will end up as an “octopi” on a water-planet or even worse on a “prison planet” if you are considered a “bad guy” - according to Nancy Lieder’s claims.

- Hysteria/Paranoia

Then her claims about constant attacks from government-Black-Ops or paid-debunkers-teams to make herself more important and scare people off.

The Moderators are even suggested that they are being remote viewed by “telepaths” to eliminate any feeling of independent thinking so whenever critique comes up they are being told “The remote-viewers are planting these (negative) thoughts in your head, it isn’t you!”

Note: I will say that she claimed that many former Moderators are supposed to be “government-black-Ops” though these people are well alive and can prove their identity.

// UPDATE - and did!! ( See the updates below. )

Nancy is a professional liar and uses a vast ammount of manipulative-methods.

By being human she cannot be perfect though and her own standards turned out to be increasingly self-destructive.

She piled up so many lies in more than 15 years, that its simply impossible to avoid mistakes!

She carefully hides any direct signs of cult-activity and this includes a seemingly missing motive alltogether.

Nancy obviously likes this little power-game over people (enjoying to be accepted as the one unique emissary) and even gets financial aid by “willing believers“ -

people who voluntarily feed her with money in exchange for personal ZetaTalk by violating her own rules. (These people can confirm.)

But to give you something WATERPROOF, CONCRETE PROOF of Nancy's Hoax, please investigate the following Information in DETAIL and draw your own conclusions.

2. When Nancy (the Zetas) Fail

Case 1: „Dark Twin sighted at Neumayer 3?“

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/dark-twin-capture

Many of you should be familiar with this particular case, but I will go through it step-by-step again by analyzing it very carefully as we have some very good evidence here.

As some of you may noticed and as I mentioned above, Nancy had to alter official ZetaTalk at that day because she had no idea what she was talking about and the analysis proved her previous statements wrong.

(Which was not the only big mistake she made on that case.. but later more).

So lets recap how Nancy got to these Images and what she was thinking when she recieved them.

Gordon J.G. send Nancy the original Neumayer-image with the proposed belief that the camera was pointing North, therefore would show an object in the western sky.

BUT

The camera was actually pointing South-East, instead of North, as Nancy originally assumed writing her first ZT in this belief (which of course would turn out to be incorrect - and people noticed! )

The “infamous” debunkers (which fortunately own sharp eyes and carefully analyse) noticed it: http://www.zetasquawk.com/change.html

According to Nancy (the Zetas) - First edit,

SOZT 4/13/12

Clearly not the Moon (which was nearly Full and in any case behind the cam) nor the Sun (as the object appears in the middle of the night just before and after midnight), this is a capture of the Dark Twin. The cam is on the S Pole, looking North, and as such the cam, or a human viewer, would be looking at midnight directly out into space on the dark side of Earth. Looking to the left is looking West, which is where the Dark Twin rides.

We had warned that the twin would tend to move BEHIND the Earth as these planets are squeezed in the cup, and thence escape by moving back into space behind the Earth. There are also other possibilities, one of which is to have the twin pass the Earth and attempt to escape by moving forward in their shared orbit. At present, the twin is caught slightly behind the Earth in their shared orbit, and moving outside of their orbit back into space.

EOZT


Background:

Nancy smelled „big news“ in that Neumayer-image because it supposedly showed her fictive planet in the Western sky and accordingly she jumped on the case as usual not knowing she won't be able to hold ANY of these statements in the future.

After a respectively long discussion with her, I convinced her that the Webcam was in fact facing South-East and is showing a North-facing Building, as the Neumayer-website itself notes: http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/
 “View from the communications radome to the north side of the base.”

Also Google Earth showed the front side of the building aligned with North:

Finally following the shadow confirmed the case:

Animation: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/39bxacvt/NeumayerAnim.gif

Or a rough analysis of the general direction of view:

Now you may ask, how the statement

„Looking to the left is looking West, which is where the Dark Twin rides.“ can be true?

Looking left, would be looking East not West. The opposite direction, of where the DT is supposed to ride.

So Nancy got caught wrong and needed to change official ZetaTalk, to have it at least correlating from that point of perspective.

>>Remember: Information, supposedly, relayed by highly-intelligent Aliens, while her excuse was that „she was pooped all day and totally got it wrong in her head“ which is not applyable at all since the Aliens are supposed to think and not her.

(And beside she just used that excuse as means of manipulation to be the victim and not the perpetrator.)

So a North-facing webcam > became a South-East facing webcam, plus further additions, actually conclusions that she draw out of the admin-analysis:

According to Nancy (the Zetas) - Second edit,

SOZT 4/13/12

Clearly not the Moon (which was nearly Full and in any case behind the cam) nor the Sun (as the object appears in the middle of the night just before and after midnight), this is a capture of the Dark Twin. The cam is near the S Pole, looking at the North facing side of the structure, and as such the cam, or a human viewer, would be hanging upside down looking directly out into space on the dark side of Earth. Where the Dark Twin should be riding to the West, behind the Earth in their shared orbit, it appears to be almost overhead, directly behind and somewhat to the South of the Earth.

We had warned that the twin would tend to move BEHIND the Earth as these planets are squeezed in the cup, and thence escape by moving back into space behind the Earth, passing the Earth in their shared orbit. We mentioned these possibilities, that the Dark Twin would pass the Earth and attempt to escape by moving forward in their shared orbit. At present, the twin is caught behind the Earth in their shared orbit, and moving along outside of their orbit behind the Earth out in space. It is trying to evade conflict with the Earth by dropping below the Ecliptic somewhat, as it attempt to slide past the Earth.

EOZT

Not a big deal, you may think. „Maybe Nancy got it so wrong that the Zetas relayed it wrong?“

I can leave you the favor of a doubt for the moment, but there's more evidence to uncover:

How about this comment, that a smart member (who was on the verge of being suspended for questioning the holy mother) made on the posting: Yaroslav, 

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/dark-twin-capture

Looks like we have winner there! Did you see the star moving THROUGH „the Dark twin“?

It proves that this cannot be a physical object, otherwise the star would have been hidden!

Oh right, then Nancy wants to let us believe, this was „bended light“, that mysteriously made it around the building:

Beside this is a contradiction to any logic (because light is only bended by IMMENSELY STRONG gravitational influences that would heavily disturb our planets.) - here's the real reason for the supposed „appearance of the dark twin“ on Neumayer 3, please watch the original-occurence for yourself again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT7luegak1w

The Moon leaves the webcam to the left, minutes before the „DT“-persona makes the appearance.
Actually the persona is a lenseflare caused by the Moon as illustrated in this draft:

Confirmation that the bright object leaving the webcam to left is the Moon per skymap:

If you keep observing the Neumayer 3 Images, you will notice that this occurs frequently and numerous occurences can be found easily. Go check for yourself occasionally if you dont believe!

Case 2: „Planet X components on SOHO EIT-171 ?! “

Per the Zetas, SOHO EIT-171 is showing Planet X components in the lower left sector,  supposedly „appear not to move, or barely so“

Quoted from: http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/14ap2012.htm

„This is indeed debris in the tail of Planet X, even though the debris on the EIT images appears not to move from frame to frame, moving only slightly in this or that direction. „

„Where at just the right distance from the satellite cameras, this fixed array will appear in the images, but appear not to move, or barely so. „

„the EIT slip on April 7 at 13:00 UTC (which is attempting to hide the Planet X components in the lower left sector) „ - ZetaTalk

BUT, when someone goes to check the SOHO archives for these particular images (or any other timeframe), someone will find out that these Objects cannot be space debris and the ZT does not fit with any of the behaviour the REAL images show! These are dirt on the lense of the SOHO sattelite and can be proven!

In advance: Why did Nancy failed on this one? Again she was not able to understand the case well enough to be able to compose a fake-talk that would correlate with reality.

As my analysis on the Moderators Ning clearly led to the conclusion that something is not fitting there so she had to write up new ZetaTalk, once again, that was supposed to explain it by „electro-static charged debris“


So the current ZT (http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/14ap2012.htm ) as such, is actually originating from two pieces - that still fail utterly to comply with the behaviour the SOHO images are showing. (These darn images, they just dont want to fit with Nancy's phantasy!)

Nancy failed because she was not able to reproduce the steps needed to understand that this cannot be real space-objects but instead the supposed „PX debris“ must belongs to dirt on the shielding of SOHO!


(This really isnt all too easy to see, and the reason why she failed. Yet other Moderators were able to understand came to the same conclusion, so you will be able to see what I mean.)

This “layer” includes various artifacts that always maintain the same distance to each other, including straight lines, hundreds of „dots/dirt“, and a black dot that is always apparent, with the whole thing being occasionaly flipped horizontally and vertically by exact 180° because the sattelite rolls over.

That said, you will only find the proposed „PX debris“/dirtlayer in two postures:

As illustrated below, sometimes the whole thing is hor/vert- flipped by perfect 180°, from one frame to another.

(There are 12 hours difference between each EIT 171 frame).

So Nancy wants to let you believe that this „PX debris“ flipped by exact 180° horizontally/vertically within 12 HOURS, while not having a millimeter difference in the overall alignment because it is „charged“!

(Also note that the dirtlayer always remains the same, for years now).

2012/01/17  Upper Right:

+ 12 hours to the previous

2012/01/18 Lower left: Full hor/vert 180° flip

Nancy thought this was Planet X debris, because the overall dirtlayer is tilting which first gives the impression these dots are moving independently from the sun.

She was not able to understand that the SOHO-sattelite ITSELF TILTS while always focusing the sun (by remaining aligned with the sun’s ecliptic), so the „dirt layer“ tilts together with the sattelite, giving the appearance these dots move indepdently from the sun. But they don’t, it is the sattelite which tilts! (http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/object/index.cfm?fobjectid=34471 )


Beside already in Feb. 2010 people noticed this “phenomena” on the Ning, and even back then it was showing the same behaviour already (= being at the same spots).

 http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/on-soho-eit-171-latest-image

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/soho-eit-171-latest-image-not

This really isnt all too easy to see and the simple reason why Nancy failed to make an accurate claim, once again.

But dont worry - You can check with your very own eyes!

To check, go on http://sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/soho_movie_theater SOHO archive,

When you did that, check the upper right or lower left corner for the proposed “PX Space debris” and start focusing on those objects that seem to barely move:

You will then see, that the supposed „PX Debris“ is part of dirt-artifacts sitting on the lense and this includes various dots & straight lines that tilt in the postures I described above.

Occasionally you'll find that it will have performed the 180° flip from one frame to another  when the sattelite rolls.

So according to „ZetaTalk“/NancyTalk this would suggest that the whole supposed „electrostatic charged PX space debris “ has the periodicity of

If that does still sound „rational“ or „logic“ to you, you still haven't managed to awake from Nancy's charade of twisting facts.

To make this clear:

It is impossible, that this is Planet X space debris or real space objects.

Case 3: „Venus transite wrong? “

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/venus-transit-june-5th-6th-surprise-resulted

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/venus-transit-wobble-more-new-zetatalk

So what about the Venus transite?
Nancy wants us to believe it went wrong, taking the wrong path, and even confirmed a supposed „wave-wobble” per her “Zetas”.

Before analysing these claims lets recap that transite-day for a moment.

Nancy, Myself and other Moderators were following the Venus-transite live on various webcams so she created an Admin-discussion to collect these images and following analysis to use it later on the PS-Ning.


As proof, she also used my Image-overlay of the Keck-Observatory images: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/0pubkqyr/MKeaScreenshots.png

Once again Nancy did not really had an idea what she was doing or claiming and quickly came to the conclusion the path must have been wrong.

The webcam-images from the Keck-Observatory or other members images first seemed to support this claim. - ( While even nobody of us really was aware how to check if the transit was actually wrong or not, since no-one of the Moderators had sufficent astronomy-skills.)

So again Nancy thought this would be a safe claim, that nobody would be able to debunk and accordingly made it as a public statement: Venus went wrong.

A day later, she came across the seeming „venus wobble“ that many noted on the SWAP(Proba-2)-images where Venus was apparently showing a wave-form.
Smelling big-news again, she confirmed it per the Zetas to be the real deal! 
So Venus path was called not only wrong, but now it also took a “wobbled path”.

It was myself who was bringing up these SWAP images on the PS-Ning - as can be seen from the comments: http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/venus-transit-june-5th-6th-surprise-resulted 


Also it was myself who later came to the conclusion that the alleged “wobble” on the SWAP images are actually logically related to Proba2’s polar-orbit (which is orbiting earth vertically in 99.2min while always focusing the Sun - creating this “optical effect”), as can also be seen from the comment-history.

However Nancy was so busy, that she totally missed the point about Proba2’s orbit and the new ZT came out - confirming the “wave-wobble” as a real physical occurence:

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/venus-transit-wobble-more-new-zetatalk


In fact, she used my analysis from the particular admin-discussion as the basis for that very ZT (which she already deleted as of now) to prepare excuses for being questioned on certain matters.


What matters?
Well, I realized that the alleged “wobble” on the SWAP images are logically related to Proba2’s orbit which travels vertically around the earth at relatively high speed (99,2min) while always focusing the Sun.
So I noticed that when comparing the predicted path with the actual path, you need to align both images with the sun’s ecliptic to see that Venus traveled as predicted.

She included all these conclusions as “Establishment claims” into her new ZT:


Quoted from: http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/venus-transit-wobble-more-new-zetatalk

SOZT

Venus is caught in the cup,

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta202.htm

as we so long ago explained. This occurred because as Planet X passes the Sun it does so within the region of the orbits of Earth, Venus, and the Dark Twin. Planet X first crossed Earth’s orbit in December, 2003 when the Earth encountered Planet X, halted her orbit due to this massive presence, and has subsequently been pushed back in her orbit by the retrograde motion of Planet X to what would normally be Earth’s August position.  As Venus and the Dark Twin came round in their orbits, they encountered this same obstacle and also halted. Venus has been moved back and forth in the cup, in order to simulate its normal orbit for Earthlings, in accordance with the Element of Doubt rule imposed to reduce panic in the trigger-happy establishment.  

That said, what occurred during the June 5-6, 2012 transit of Venus? Venus was pushed into position at the start of the transit, as we mentioned, so as not to panic the establishment. By the time they realized the path was not going according to the PUBLISHED path, it was too late. Their anticipated path was already in the news, already in the hands of amateur astronomers, and cameras were recording all over the globe. To recover, the establishment tried to zoom on Venus, so the path could not be determined and they will try to confuse the public by tilting the Sun in images so the path slants. But this will not succeed, as sunspots move with the Sun’s Ecliptic, rotate with the Sun, so comparisons can be made. NASA cannot hide what happened.

What of the Venus wobble, noted by many, that seemed to take a waved path across the face of the Sun. This is not apparent in a moment-by-moment view, but a rapid transit is obvious. The establishment is quickly trying to explain this wobble as motion in Sun-centric satellites, which are claimed to move up and down and thus, being closer to Venus than the Sun, this makes it appear that Venus is moving. But the distance Venus would have to move to create this wobble SEVERAL times within the 6 hour transit is not feasible, nor does this occur. Did Venus bobble up and down during the transit? It is struggling with mixed messages, one from the Sun to stay in its established orbit, another from Planet X to stay ABOVE a conflict with the gravity press from this monster just to the right. The dither, or wave form, was real.

EOZT

The only fact that Nancy was not able to contemplate at that time, was that certain Sattelites do indeed travel faster around the earth than she was originally assuming.

 

As many of you surely noticed, she claimed “that sattelites do not travel around the earth several times within a 6 hour period” - though they do!

Proba2 travels once around the earth in 99,2min! 14.5 times in a day!

( http://www.heavens-above.com/orbit.aspx?satid=36037 )

 

So a rational connection became an „establishment lie“,

„The establishment is quickly trying to explain this wobble as motion in Sun-centric satellites, which are claimed to move up and down and thus, being closer to Venus than the Sun, this makes it appear that Venus is moving. But the distance Venus would have to move to create this wobble SEVERAL times within the 6 hour transit is not feasible, nor does this occur.“

Nancy made a fortunate typo in this particular case, because she actually wanted to underline that Sattelites do not travel several times around the earth in a 6 hour period - as she originally assumed.

„ But the distance the sattelite would have to move to create this wobble SEVERAL times within the 6 hour transit is not feasible, nor does this occur.“

The ZT only makes sense when “Venus” is replaced with “the sattelite” in that sentence!

Where it should be noted that the public noted this aswell, as the sharp eyes of the debunkers prove again: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message814739/pg1055

So what could Nancy do?

Correcting the fortunate typo would clearly prove her wrong, so a members SDO images which came a day later turned out to be her lifesafer because it was less dramatic and was still showing a slight „curve“ - This time related to SDO’s orbit.

So she could hold onto her claim “the sine-wave was real!”.

Currently the ZT is still containing the typo (Nancy’s lifesaver)  and a contradiction in itself,

„But the distance Venus would have to move to create this wobble SEVERAL times within the 6 hour transit is not feasible, nor does this occur.“

While, later „The dither, or wave form, was real. „

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/venus-transit-wobble-more-new-zetatalk

So was the Venus-transite really wrong?

Note: This is issued in more detail in the 08 / 07 / 2012 Update below  

At best you go check for yourself,

and compare this to the following image which is the predicted path (and resulting “wave-effect”),

Link Transit Simulation movie

http://proba2.oma.be/index.html/

and you will see that Venus traveled exactly as predicted, though Nancy of course tried to keep every possibilities open in advance:


On 19 March 2012:

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/19ma2012.htm

„Will the forthcoming transit of Venus across the Sun take place as expected, or will the Council of Worlds allow an exception to the Element of Doubt rule? As usual, we will not tip the hand of the Council of Worlds, though we have hinted that surprises are likely to occur. To date, eclipses and transits have been supported, the planets forced into a position to simulate what the public expects. At times, as leading into the April 8, 2005 solar eclipse, this pushing about has even been noted, the Moon out of position leading into and just after the eclipse. It was too far north on April 5, 2005 then too far south on April 25, 2005 then suddenly too far north again.

During the June 8, 2004 transit of Venus the glare of the Sun blinded visibility of Planet X components, though odd dark orbs were noted on the face of the Sun. During the July 22, 2009 solar eclipse in China,  a giant UFO made an appearance.  During the solar eclipse of July 11, 2010 the establishment shut down all televised cameras the instant Planet X was to become visible. They clearly feared an appearance, unhindered by the glare of the Sun, though a brief glimpse of Planet X did indeed occur.  

Yet on all occasions, the planets were pushed into the expected position so that the Element of Doubt could be maintained. To date, this has been the pattern – allow the expected alignments to occur, but provide some evidence to break the cover-up over the presence of Planet X or the alien presence.  Since the last transit or eclipse, the Council of Worlds has gone to war with the cover-up, promising surprises. During a transit, visible from a large swath of the world, many will be peering toward the Sun, watching closely. Will the establishment blind them all? Will they invent an asteroid swarm to explain any moons and debris in the tail of Planet X? Or will the transit fail to occur at all? All this remains to be seen. „

Case 4: „The Alberto Red-Filter-Revolution?“

What about the „Planet X images“ made around the world? What about the fab “red filter idea“?

Alberto himself confirmed that his supposed genuine „Moon swirls“ are only visible on the camera when the floppy is involved, so there’s nothing visible with naked eye. (http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/sun-to-zenith-az-194-52-elev-59-57-2012-05-05-13-50-big-body-has )

Now you may ask yourself, how can such bright objects not be visible with naked eye?

How can it be that Alberto manages to make pictures of it everyday, yet not even one Moderator was able to see it, despite hundreds of people around the world are watching the Sun every second?

Of course there's a logical explanation too:

I made the following video a couple of days ago, with my Nokia mobile-phone and a simple floppydisk. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBFawdlXlo

What does it shows?

The floppy, obviously, itself creates inner reflections that does not seem to behave like conventional lenseflares on the first glance > i.e. The Sun and the supposed „Moon Swirls“, stay in place as long as you keep the same angle between Floppy and camera.

However, as soon as you start „moving the floppy“, like by holding it by hand or tapping with your fingers on it to temporarily change the angle, you will notice that its all just an Illusion and caused by a reflection!

The floppy ITSELF actually creates the Planet X/Moonswirl ghosts. - Or any lense involved.

While I made my video, of course there was nothing by the sun. - Naked eye.

The floppydisks produce lenseflares and as such the alleged „floppy revolution“ is actually a „Flare-o-illusion“.

Dont believe me? Grab a camera and a floppy and play with it yourself!

Cases  5, 6, 7:  “ Pending”
I will leave this ones up to Nancy for now, to give her chance to be once honest in her life..

(although she is unlikely to admit any of this, as she invested more than 15 years of work into this Mind-Manipulation-Fraud and has so much empathy, as to lie to you flat in the face FOR YEARS, or suggesting you matters to have you blindly following anything she says. )

I've prepared more surprises in advance and I will be enjoying to help people uncover this masterpiece of Manipulation!

And as such you should ask yourself, how was Nancy not able to predict THIS (if she really is in contact with any brain-matter?  ;)

Or what is she going to SAY? Will it be reasonable? Will it be provable? Or will she twist facts once again?

All this remains to be seen.

That said, we're playing Chess and this was my turn on your King: CHECK!

As for Nancy,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX0-iouVTuA

Game over.

As for the People,
My conclusions:
Everyone of the Moderators is 100% authentic and everyone of them (except Nancy) are righteous people.

I've greatly enjoyed working with these people and really will miss them in the future, but I can no longer consciously lie to people and support Nancy twisting facts.

In my opinion the talents of the Moderators are wasted for this attention-*-hole and the Ning would be best without her and her twisted version of reality!

Realizing all this, of course was hard, such as realizing that I've been lied for years and wasted a lot of time and ressources, crying wolf and clinging to her „truth“, while misleading people and bringing them into the spider's net at the same time.

Afterall, I can do a little good, in sharing all this information with you and please feel free to share it with anyone you like.

What about all the weird stuff going on, you may ask?

Of course something is going on with Earth, as can be seen by the unpredictable weather, genuine UFO's, uprising people or other new-land we are touching.

However Nancy turned out to be a liar, manipulator and as such she cannot be trusted for anything.

Afterall, it is her who wants to be in the Media all the time.
Her, who wants to be in the center of attention as the ONE EMISSARY.

Her who betrays people to let them believe that she is in contact with genuine Aliens, while she fails on simple matters! (Like these darn planetary movements which just dont want to comply with her statements, „Earth stopped in its orbit“, or „Venus, the DT and earth are caught in the Cup“, yet Venus is exactly where it is supposed to be. Same to earth. For years. )

Nancy (ZT) is nothing but another doomsday-cult wanting the stage on the 2012-bandwagon and this took me far too long to realize...


What is to be expected from Nancy?

She will come-up with some reason to discard what I am writing here, not adress it at all, or claim that im a Gov.-BlackOps or some other BS (which is unlikely to occur because she knows I can prove my identity).

Or she will claim that I was being „Remove viewed“ and set on a mission to spread „doubts“ among the Moderators and the public, so basically her usual mind-tricks to discard any critical thinking or more research in this matter.


She will say anything else than the truth,
or so she will keep continuing to bend her predictions over and over, like currently happening with the 7/10 predictions. ( http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/02ju2012.htm ) (No strong quakes in SA anymore, No EU tsunami anymore, No NM-adjustment and this all because of “the invisible misterious metalboxes” that nobody can see or measure  ;)

That said, I don't know if any of you will be able to read this with an open mind, because I know that many of you are under immense pressure.

However, if anyone needs me or my support in this matter, COUNT ON ME!  I will be there to counter the disinfo!

Now you should know her little secret and if you managed to see through her game, you should be able to predict her next moves.

I hope I could help you a little with this insights and I will follow the progress and update if necessary. FEEL FREE TO SHARE THIS KNOWLEDGE.

Take care folks. My best of luck and always think indepdently!

Never let someone else decide what you should believe!

THINK CRITICAL! -  connect the dots.

Thanks,

Co S

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16 / 06 / 2012 UPDATE - Nancy’s expected response and  CASE 5 - “Fake Maria”:

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/disgruntled-former-moderator
As suspected Nancy is now claiming I was a victim of "Remote Viewing" in order to let people believe that these obvious contradictions to reality i.e the analysis below, couldn't be true, given the "Accuracy" she collected over the years. (Her best argument, since she managed to include a lot of authentic information into her claims, however, they still remain wrong in detail. :)

SUCH AS SHE WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE ANYTHING, BUT READING AND DRAWING YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS!

As usual:

If Nancy gets confronted with the truth she either accepts it quietly, or she hunts you down by using her daily means of Manipulation:

In all: Means of manipulation to stop you questioning ZT and blindly believe anything Nancy says.

and,

What (of course) was to to be expected from Nancy?

Or she might be claiming that I was being „Remove viewed“ and was set on a mission to spread „Doubts“ among the Moderators and the public, so basically her usual mind-tricks to dont get you question it alltogether or discard any more research.

She will say anything, but the truth.

Cases  5 - “Fake Maria”
Im worrying for the person involved, but Nancy choosed to reveal her idendity in advance.
So whats all about this “Fake Maria”?
Whenever a former Moderator starts developing doubts, they are often claimed to be “Gov.-Black-OPs” to have the Moderators avoid any contact with these individuals.


However I was not so dumb to blindly follow this claim, and well, I went for a webcam-conversation with the supposed “Fake Maria”, which of course was no fake at all... (After she was able to provide genuine information about her, since I skyped with her a couple of times in the past already).
Now Nancy officially admitted that “Maria” is supposed to be a Fake, and this is another Lie that will be exposed.

She even provided the Image herself with the proposed “teeth analysis” where everyone can clearly see that they are one and the same person.

But hey, am I suggesting something to you, like Nancy does?
Decide for yourself ( on the left her previous avatar on the Ning,and behind a screenshot of the Skype I had with her ):

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18 / 06 / 2012 ( 00:12 UTC+1) - UPDATE: Silent Admissions!

Firstoff, the “disgruntled Moderator”posting,  http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/disgruntled-former-moderator  was not composed by Gerard. ( I know him for years now and I guess if necessary he will admit himself that Nancy has written this!).

Second, by not adressing the obvious mismatch with FACTS and ignoring most of the claims alltogether, except by claiming the Z’s allowed her to make the “Neumayer mistake” to draw me out,

Nancy admits that,

Now you may ask, why did Nancy had to admit these facts?

She has control over the Moderators, but not to the extend that they consciously lie at people! They all know these claims are true and Nancy’s response CONFIRMED!

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18 / 06 / 2012 ( 02:30 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: Kindergarten!

As you may have seen on the Twitter-widget, the Moderators bring up very good arguments as to why discard this document (NOT).


Beside my Twitter-account was “Planet_X_” and not “Shift_Happens_X” (lol? why are you aiming my friends?) , the Moderators are obviously not able to put their emotions aside and I would highly suggest them to calm down and stop suggesting people precast opinions!

Do you think people are dumb? They will be able to figure out for themselves and you are only confirming the case that you’re not able to read the analysis with an open mind!
Is it my fault that Nancy’s claims do not fit with reality? NO!
TIME TO WAKE UP, MODERATORS!

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18 / 06 / 2012 ( 03:54 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: Dirty Methods

Did similar cases occured in the past, where Moderators noticed mismatch with FACTS and where drawn out? YES!  http://website.lineone.net/~brian_gillbanks/tttakeover.htm

Taken from: http://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/another-one-bites-the-dust 

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19 / 06 / 2012 ( 00:07 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: Double Agenda

Did you noticed the proposed ZT about myself claimed( http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/disgruntled-former-moderator )

[...]

This issue will blow past within a day, given no credence by the public who sees the accuracy of ZetaTalk and is amazed at Nancy’s ability to deal with many scientific issues.
[...]

So, did this issue blowed past within a day given no credence by the public?

Lets recap (more than 3 days after Nancy’s claim),

Does this look like it “blowed past within a day given no credence by the public”?

You decide, once again.


However, to give you my opinion about that posting and why Nancy claimed this stuff:

Of course the Moderators were greatly confused as to why I did all this and as such were strongly demanding an Answer from Nancy. (Since they believe she is in contact with mind-reading ET’s).
Of course Nancy knows what my “Exposal” is about, so she went to write the “disgruntled Moderator posting” including her  “Fake-ZT” that ACTUALLY was aimed at the Moderators!


Why would Nancy state that this would blow past within a day, given no credence by the public when the opposet seems to be the case?

Why did she said I was being remote-viewed while it was EXACTLY what I expected and told the public?

Thats Nancy’s way of trying to calm down panicking Moderators by suggesting them

“Don’t bother to read or think about this issue, its no biggie! It will blow past within a day! - Trust me! He was being remote-viewed and they are targeting us once again!”

( by suggesting me logical thoughts or what?  Please Moderators forget that RV-BS! She tries once again to have you anything, but reading and thinking for yourself! )

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19 / 06 / 2012 ( 04:03 UTC+1 ) - “short” UPDATE: Revelations :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFEjcvIRMDo

The truth cannot be stopped, this one goes out for all the truthseekers!

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20 / 06 / 2012 ( 04:18 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: Sorting the wheat from the chaff
Nancy is seemingly running business as usual though encountering unwanted skepsis on her  Q&A sessions or members on the PS-Ning in general..

While all seems silent people are connecting the dots and drawing conclusions for themselves. Every human naturally understands that blindly following claims cannot be right,

so many are still pondering about the dimensions this story has achieved.

From my part, more is to come...

However, the Moderators seemed to have pushed their “member-purging-warning” again, http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/important-message-to-all-members-of-this-ning which was originally brought up by Nancy as per her own words on the admin-discussion, the goal is:


“[...] The goal is not only to learn something about our members, but to put THEM on the defensive. It should not be WE who are on the defensive, feeling bad because we have denied them free range in this, Gerard's "publication", but rather ask them why they should have the right to post!”
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20 / 06 / 2012 ( 05:06 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: Butterfly-effect!

I just came across this one from 2010: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1149282/pg1
Read and draw your conclusions as usual :)


I can confirm the case and that Cheryl Nelson was a former PS-Ning Moderator through backups from the Admin Ning.

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21 / 06 / 2012 ( 04:48 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: Real Deal?

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1149282/pg1
 A short sum of the link above,
           I received this message in my inbox today at Nancy lieders site poleshift.ning.com

Dear friends,

What I am about to tell you is very difficult. A few months ago someone posted a video on here of a camera tied to a balloon that, according to Nancy, the Zeta's said captured planet x. I knew this was a lens flare the second I saw it and expected Nancy and the Zetas to realize the same. Needless to say I was quite shocked when they said it was real.

[...]

I decided I had to put Nancy and her Zeta's to the test. Thanks to a talented friend of mine, I planted a photo on here this week that supposedly captured px. This photo was confirmed to be the real thing by the Zeta's...at least thats what Nancy said. The photo was not real...it was photo shopped. This link will take you to the original photo - with NO PX in it! http://www.livingbeing.com/catskills.htm

           [...]


“Confirmation” by Nancy (the Zetas) that the supposed Second-Sun image is the Real Deal on the 31. July 2010 Q&A:

http://zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2010.htm

“This is a genuine capture of Planet X on film, in the Monster Sun category. This is absolutely captured on film, as occurred in 2003, and is also visible naked eye. “

So what about these images?

Is the photoshopped image originating from the original image?
I guess there’s at least no doubt about that point... :)


Were there indications in advance that Nancy was going to deal with a photoshopped image that correlates with the claims in the letter?

YES! The history itself shows that members noticed the image was seemingly processed with Adobe Photoshop C3 by checking the “Exif-data”, the fingerprint of digital images! http://regex.info/exif.cgi

Don (Analyst 2) "Jezz, you didn't take this with a digital camera, did you? I too noticed, after Waveguide (Analyst 1) pointed it out, that it references Adobe Photoshop C3..... and no camera name, model #, etc. Also, it's saved at 72 dpi, which indicates it probably was not shot with a digital. The 10-day time frame would account for developing the film and then scanning it. Am I right? I do know that some folks might look askance at the info in "Properties", as Waveguide points out."

 Yet Nancy confirmed the Image to be the Real Deal!

So lets analyse the original image,

Are there indications that the original image is authentic?

http://www.livingbeing.com/images502/catskillsunset2.jpg

YES! If you check the properties of this image you will notice it was last edited on 12th June 2003, 07:14:24


Did that Website showed that image back in 2003 already?

YES again! The Web-archives confirm, http://web.archive.org/web/20030805222023/http://livingbeing.com/catskills.htm

the image is there!

Conclusion:
It is extremly unlikely that someone placed that image on a server in 2003, while waiting Seven more years (until 2010)  to come up with the “real” image showing a Second Sun. The image Nancy dealt with even showed indications of being photoshopped in advance,  yet she confirmed it to be the real deal!

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21 / 06 / 2012 ( 23:27 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: Appeal to the PS-Ning Moderators

22. June 2012 aka. “Purging Day” is approaching. http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/important-message-to-all-members-of-this-ning


To the Moderators @ PS-Ning:

Please reconsider purging those members who havent fillied in their profile-Answers or those with “unstatisfying profile-answers” as this will only cause unnecessary problems.

As you may be aware, a suspension sets a cookie that prevents people from accessing the site alltogether. The PS-Ning E-Mail inbox proves that most people are not familiar with deleting cookies, beside deleting specific cookies to prevent all other logins and temporary data to be deleted too (which can turn out to be a great loss)!

I will never forget how many E-Mails we recieved of people wondering about their suspensions or how they delete their cookies. (Someone even was cookie-blocked on his mobile phone which can become really tricky to get rid off...)
Anyway, many people sign up on the Ning for the sake of identifying themselves with an interest... or because they may want to share thoughts in the future, which is getting increasingly supressed by the oppressive rules and and the “professional” appearance the Ning achieved over the years.  (Although its not truely professional since the most essential element, critique, is not allowed.)

All those accounts you consider to “purge” are NOT HARMFUL!

By suspending all these people you are only creating problems in the flow of information!

Since you observe the latest-activity anyway, you will notice when something is against the rules and can jump in if necessary!  
(BTW: In my opinion the rules would need to be reconsidered too... If critique is not allowed you risk finding yourself in a dead-end.

Critique usally has the background of someone having a different perception of matters, so why wouldn’t it be valuable to see what lies behind that perception?
Is GLP really such a Mess? In my opinion GLP just represents the human nature of all its aspects..Chaos seems to rule at the first glance but it seems they managed to organize themselves and as such they achieved an almost free flow of information.

You cannot prevent disagreements between 6 billion humans on earth as the human psyche is way too deep to have all humans thinking the same, but there are matters that everyone would agree about, matters that are inherent to anyone such as Black is Black and White is White, a stone in your hand is “real” (physically) or the many emotions all humans share, love, compassion, sorrow and pain, fun and dissapointment, logic and illogic, curiousity or boredom....get my drift?

The Ning can fare well (even better in my opinion) without oppressive rules!

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23 / 06 / 2012 ( 19:51 UTC+1 ) - QUICK UPDATE: Hard Denial

// last Edit 31 / 08 / 2012: Cleaned up some emotional responses from my part, as afterall im also just a human and getting increasingly frustrated by the “tunnel-vision” of the Moderators, while many people are still being mislead with Nancy’s verison of Reality. In my opinion anyone who is not able to view ZT critically, should resign as a Moderator, as this is not a kids-playground but REAL PEOPLE are involved.

Denial is obviously remaining strong among the remaining Moderators as nobody of them was yet able to debunk the analysis below, despite seeing the contradictions that ZT presented.


As usual, Nancy posted previous ZTs about all kinds of topics, though as expected, the analysis is being ignored alltogether. (Of course, because Nancy needs to avoid critique based on Facts)

P.S: To "PEN #1" aka. the self proclaimed “Moderator of the Moderators", time to get real or be prepared for a hard lesson! (Yes Im talking about that GLP posting)

I will not tolerate misleading people just because Most of the Mods dont have the COURAGE to stand up and question Nancy's claims!

Even Gerard has given his “authority” to PEN#1 & Nancy, taking the path of the least resistance.

@G, You're losing it and its time to wake up and take the Ning back into your hands.

If Nancy does personal counceling for others, why is it that she will not confirm a single thought that you have in your mind right now? (Oh right, because she cant! )

Why is it that Nancy avoided further ZT on "fake maria"? (OH RIGHT, because she knew her claims would be WAY TOO ABSURD, as she knows Im in constant contact with Maria!)

Why is it that Nancy claimed Lothar Schwarz (and the other "doubting Mods" ) to be "black Ops-Fakes", when they are obviously volunteering to do whatever is necessary  to provide their idendities? ( http://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/another-one-bites-the-dust )

Why is it that Nancy claimed "CIA BlackOps" hacked the Ning deleting members, when it was Ken Harris in an attempt to stop misleading people?

Stuff is decided over your heads and you've lost control to seemingly "old souls" which actually prove that they're nothing more than you and me.

You will be exposed, all of you who stand in the way of the truth! And may it be if I have to travel to Lothar, talking to his neighbours, the local police or WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO STOP THIS FRAUD AND HAVE THE MODERATORS WAKING UP!

If you dont have the courage to do what is necessary, step back and resign!

Enough harm is being done to innocent people! Time for a different tone, also from my part.

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24 / 06 / 2012 ( 21:55 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: ”Zeta Ridiculi”

Here goes:
CASE 6 - “Fake Lothar Schwarz?”:

Do you guys remember Lothar Schwarz? Im sure many of you do....in fact, if you were following the PS-Ning for a while, you couldn’t have missed him as he was owning the most popular blog-post: “Please place your SOHO , STEREO and Magnetosphere images here!” and a lot of other popular discussions as can be seen if you google “Lothar Schwarz poleshift”.

So, where is Lothar now and what happened to his posts?

As many of you surely suspected, Lothar Schwarz was a former Moderator too.
It needs to be said, that Lothar was more of a “lone warrior” and not really attending to the Moderator-discussions on the Admin Ning (which are getting increasingly important, as to assure that all Mods are “thinking the same”), so the Moderators were generally unhappy with his attitude (of which I am not intending to judge over this here), but instead only consider the relevant facts in this matter.

That said, Lothar did his homework on certain matters and therefore was considered the “Sattelite-image-expert”, or giving general tips about forming SurvivalGroups or other related topics.

So what happened to Lothar and why is he not a Moderator anymore?

Since I know the “insider-informations” I can tell you that Lothars “turning-point” occured on the Most popular “Please place your SOHO , STEREO and Magnetosphere images here!” blog-post.

Someone was posting a STEREO image showing a planet wandering across and as usual people were wondering what it might have been (while not looking it up further for themselves).

Since Lothar did his homework in researching the Stereo-website, http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/beacon/planets/ , he knew it was Venus and told so.

Whats wrong with that?

A certain Moderator reminded him of the “fact” that the Zetas stated that everything on SOHO/Stereo images is supposed to be doctored because Earth is supposed to be stopped in its orbit and Venus and the “Dark Twin” are supposed to be “caught in the cup”,
so the the only “real” data on the Sattelite-images are supposedly the sun and the famous “Winged Globe” appearance or so. (Wait, what? All planetary Movements, the stars, comets, spacejunk and all are supposed to be “doctored” per the Zetas, BUT the Winged globe and the sun is real? seriously? YES, per the “Zetas” from Zeta “Ridiculi”:

http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta576.htm

“The solar flares are real, though during attempts to remove evidence of Planet X from SOHO images the programs show obvious edit lines. As we have explained, the programs are not sensitive to color gradations, like the human eye, and thus build in bloopers for the public to discover. Thus, in order to effect the appearance of normalcy, with an Earth moving in her orbit and Venus appearing opposite the Stereo satellites at times, the passage of Venus was likewise inserted into appropriate Stereo images.”

Why would Nancy state such a thing?

As is obvious if you read the remaining ZT, Nancy DID NOT HAD ANOTHER CHOICE, because she claimed “Earth is stopped in its orbit”, and Venus and the “Dark Twin” are supposed to be “caught in the cup”. (The Dark Twin is an immaginary planet that nobody can see or measure. Supposedly riding to the opposite of earth (being always behind the sun) -  while now have made it mysteriously somewhere behind the earth - since it is told to be “caught in the cup with the other planets”  

Since Nancy obstinately holds to her claims (which turned to be self-destructive) , of course she must state (per the Zetas), that all the planets etc. on SOHO/STEREO-images must be doctored too!


Then of course these darn planets just dont want to appear to be “caught in a (immaginary) cup”, since Venus just recently traveled as predicted. 


But HEY! Nancy still has her little “Joker”, the “Element of Doubt” and the mighty “Council of Worlds” which mysteriously “simulates” normalcy all the years (even up until today and probably in the future too ) while the planets usally should be supposed to be “caught in the cup” per the “Zetas”.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta576.htm

What has this to do with Lothar?

I have not asked Lothar about this one, but I guess this was the turning point for him, to realize, how absurd Nancy’s claims have gotten and accordingly he left the Ning on his own, removing all his content (I can understand that now, since the basis aka. “ZT” of the PS-Ning is totally rotten).

What about “Fake Lothar”?

After a while Lothar Schwarz suddenly appeared on Cheryl’s Ning, while not supporting Nancy and “the one and only truth ZT” anymore: http://earthchanges.ning.com/profile/LotharSchwarz 

( Cheryl was a former PS-Ning Moderator too and created her Ning after “waking up from Nancy’s charade” by splitting up the two Nings.
Alex R. or Ken Harris, also both former longtime PS-Ning Moderators can be found on C’s Ning with similar experiences  http://earthchanges.ning.com )

So the Moderators asked themselves what occured to Lothar, since Nancy previously stated he was “highly STO” and all....so were demanding an answer, “ZT”, from Nancy.

Since Nancy does not like distraction of “the one real truth”, she simply declared Lothar to be another “Gov.Black-Ops-fake” as she did before with Maria and many others because she thinks over the internet its almost impossible to reveal someone’s true idendity. (Oops Nancy )

She declared that Lothar’s survival-group “has disbanded”, Lothar not being active anymore and now supposedly spreading “disinfo” as a “fake-persona” on Cheryl’s Ning to “distract the Moderators”.

Of course the Moderators bought into it and some were even worried what the real Lothar might be doing!  

A famous “Moderator of the Moderators”, actually one of Nancy’s “saddest missuses of manipulation” - which even Nancy cannot stop anymore, because she declared that Moderator to be “higher-leveled” than the Zetas,

came to the brilliant idea to make an effort in contacting the “real” Lothar in order to have the “fake persona” exposed. - Since the Moderators believe the real Lothar to be anything, but doubting ZT.

Why is this Relevant?

The idea to call Lothar came up pretty quick and Nancy did not expected that someone might be able to get to his number quickly, while Nancy likely expected nobody would care at all about him, since she thought many disliked him, accordingly wouldn’t dig deeper  into her claims!

(Ooops again Nancy!)
So since I am a “countrymen” of Lothar aka. living in Germany, I was supposed to make an effort in contacting him, and started looking for contact details during a Skype session with the Moderators, until I came across another “bummer” at that time.

As some of you may know, Lothar Schwarz has his own website, so I went to look for it, to make a special Request (which I wont detail, otherwise Lothar will be flodded with calls) to get to his Phone-Number and noticed that Lothar is not supporting Nancy’s claims on his own website either!  See for yourself!: http://www.schwarztech.at

I had Lothar’s Number in less then a couple of Minutes and was ready to call him... But I didn’t at that time, because I had the feeling I would talk to Lothar himself (as occured before when I went to dig into the “Fake-Maria-Lie”, so Nancy would came up with some other BS to discard the person behind the telephone (like claiming they tapped his line and “implanted” a fake or whatever)..

So I told the Moderators I dont have a good feeling about calling him, because the result will not be what the Moderators would expect. (They would expect a confused, ZT-faithful Lothar, wondering what happened with his website, or why someone writes stuff on cheryl’s ning in his name), so they all agreed in not to call him for the Moment.


and, I WIll NEVER FORGET Nancy’s reaction at that day!

When Nancy first stated that Lothar was a “fake”, she was only aware of his presence on Cheryl’s Ning.

The fact that EVEN Lothar’s Website supports the claim that Lothar is no longer a believer in Nancy and the Z’s anymore gave it a totally new dimension, and it was not known until I came across it during the skype-conference where NANCY WAS ATTENDING TOO!

I can remember well (and the Moderators probably too), how “defensive” Nancy was at that day.-

Suddenly she left the Skype for some reason, and later was playing “dat-little-innocent-baby” for no apparent reason, while we agreed about not calling Lothar for the moment!

(Of course, because her  Fraud was going to get exposed by a simple call!)

Nancy was like, “oh, huh?” , “You decided not to call him?” , “Hmmm, I have no hunch about this one (when she usally throws in her hunches on the next best occason), but given the hunches of Mods X,Y,Z, I agree not to call him” )


LOL NANCY! That was a big eye-opener for me. I first didnt seemingly understood, why the heck you were so defensive about that one since we just wanted to help Lothar!)

Anyway, Nancy got a couple of more days to “live” with the Fraud and the Mods demanded another ZT from Nancy, as to why his website was taken over and what dimensions the suppsed Gov.-Black-Ops has achieved,

as taking over a personal website and all, would be obvious to Lothar’s friends such as all those who know him!

Some moderators were even thinking he might have been killed, but per the Zetas on the Admin Discussion (I have a backup):
Nancy claimed,

SOZT

The real Lothar did not get killed, but feel ill and was not able to continue his Internet activities. Stroke and debility. Thus they were open for a takeover.

EOZT

“Awww.... poor Lothar... these Nasty Black-Ops took over his website and all, because he had a stroke and cannot continue his internet activies...  : ’ (  “ <- Thats what Nancy wants the Moderators to believe.. )

And as such she thought nobody would be able to prove otherwise, but she did NOT EXPECTED, that Lothar or the other former Moderators would VOLUNTEER TO EXPOSE HER CLAIMS!

After it became clear to me, what game Nancy is playing, it was likely that Lothar would support me in this manner, (since he is still active and even supports on his own website, that Nancy is a Fraud), so I thought how I could best expose Nancy’s claims and contacted him with the Following E-Mail:

Hi Lothar,

as I wrote you before Nancy claimed that you are a Fake too and I would like to expose that lie aswell, as this will help the Moderators realize the truth because they all know that Nancy claimed this.

What do I need?

Well I can prove the claim that Nancy said you were a fake + background information, and you have posted Images of your equipment in the past, that still can be found via google.

(Im talking about the (currently removed) posting "I show you mine, You show me yours", if you remember ).

So what I need would be another image (at best with a current timestamp written on paper or so :D ) of that very wodden desk: http://bit.ly/KP9YLF

This would be enough to debunk Nancy's claim and we dont even need to reveal a personal image of you!

That said, I hope you can either send me a current image of that desk, http://bit.ly/KP9YLF or post in on Cheryl's Ning, or on your website somewhere...

Greets,

Co S

So, to sum up what I was asking from Lothar:

Lothar Schwarz previously had a posting on the PS-Ning, that was called “I show you mine and you show me yours”, which was a place for people to provide images of their equipment and preparations.

As many of you surely remember and as still can be found by searching Google images for

“I show you mine poleshift” , Lothar posted Images of his equipment:

(Image details say these were taken on 25. August 2010)

http://bit.ly/KP9YLF

http://bit.ly/MtLgAF


So I only needed to ask Lothar to make another current Image of that very wodden desk (which would be EXTREMLY HARD TO FAKE since it has a lot of individuality, given all the unique scratches, tape, color drops etc) and did so.

Did supposed “fake Lothar” aka. Lothar Schwarz himself, managed to make a current image of his wodden Desk?

HOLY COW, YES! EVEN WITH A CURRENT NEWSPAPER!
http://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=6126809%3ABlogPost%3A35200&commentId=6126809%3AComment%3A233562&xg_source=activity

(Image details say these were taken on 24. July 2012)


Comparison:

Open Large View: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/ut48c404/loth2.png

Is that Lothar’s Desk?
 YOU DECIDE!



More to come....the Obvious can become even more obvious if you wish. Its up to you, remaining Moderators.  Want me to travel to Lothar? Talk to his neighbours? To other people that know the real Lothar? Are you serious?

Is it really so hard to see?

(btw: Thanks for the support Lothar! )

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28 / 06 / 2012 ( 02:21 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: Apples and Oranges?

Some days passed and the remaining Moderators obviously want to remain in their little world because “finding back to reality” can be deflating sometimes. Especially if you think you’re working on something unique and extremly important.


How could the Moderators ignore that the Dark Twin on Neumayer must be a lenseflare? (and still occuring frequently)
How could they ignore that the supposed “PX-Debris” on EIT 171 goes against all logic?
How could they ignore Venus traveled exactly as predicted?

How could they ignore that Floppy-disks obviously create “PX-ghosts” that anyone can easily confirm?
How could they ignore that Maria is obviously not a fake?
How could they ignore that Lothar is obviously not a fake either?
How could they ignore the supression of critique and any questioning of Nancy’s words?


I can’t tell for certain but I guess they either didn’t carefully read/reproduced the analysis, or they simply feel more comfortable with Nancy’s phantastic version of Reality. (Unfortunately, the latter seems to apply).

The Moderators show clear indications of being in deep denial:

Apples and Oranges?
As you may noticed the Alberto Flare-o-illusion was pushed again and a collection of a single- man’s-images are considered “undeniable proof of the existence of Planet X”.

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/viewing-the-alberto-s-planet-x-photos-with-aligning-the-sun-s-mid

Astrogal50 aka. “PEN #1” aka. the Moderator of the Moderators, believes that hundreds of images of one and the same person must prove Planet X is somewhere out there.. (or NOT?)

Comment by astrogal50

Wow!  Paid (professional) and unpaid (amateur) critics of such photos generally claim all captures are lens flares, the pictures are somehow faked, and/or there is a world-wide conspiracy to fool the public with such proof.  But this blog shows otherwise.

It is easy to see why the cover-up artists are so anxious about this revolution of in-the-know common men and women.  Just one problem:  It is already too late to stop the red filter revolution.

At least she’s right about one thing: It is already too late to stop the red filter revolution

which means people will hopefully grab a Floppydisk and a camera and will start to play with it for themselves!


Why should “the cover-up artists” be anxious about the public taking a floppydisk in combination with a camera to see for themselves that the floppy actually creates “lense-flares”?

EVERYONE OUT THERE WHO HAS DOUBTS

Grab a floppy, hold it by hand and film the sun with a camera, as I did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKBFawdlXlo

Tadaaaaa,
Anyone can easily produce “PX-Ghost-images” on demand ....

BTW: Want me to make a collection of images with “PX” just like Alberto did? ( Just tell me where you want to have the PX-complex aka. the floppy-flares and Im sure I can arrange the right angle...)


Also, can someone ask Alberto via a private mail to make a video of his “moon-swirls” by holding the floppy by hand? Lets put his seemingly “genuine” images to a test!

Or will he avoid it? Will Nancy manage to tell him to never-ever make a video holding the floppy by hand? How will she justify it to him? ..all this remains to be seen and only needs to bother Nancy.

Then there was this other argument, brought up by a member:

The comparison of SOHO (Apples) and Alberto’s images (Oranges), seemingly showing the same or not?:

           Comment by Katche yesterday

OMG! I was thinking exactly about this yesterday and today you bring up this brilliant work! Combined with Sevan Makaracı's Blog post SOHO and user captured moonswirl pics saying the same thing, they'r... you have undeniable proof.

Thank You Kojima!



Lets take a view at that posting, http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/soho-and-user-captured-moonswirl-pics-saying-the-same-thing-they-

What is to be seen there?

Alberto’s floppy- images are compared with Sattelite images (SOHO LASCO C2/LASCO C3) and the author suggests that they must be showing the same objects!

Since I guess everyone of you is familiar how Alberto’s images are produced, you may be asking about the other images:

What is SOHO LASCO C2/ C3 actually showing?

Stars, Planets, spacejunk etc. yes.. but more relevant in this matter is the question:

What region of the sky/space is SOHO LASCO C2/C3 viewing at?

Those of you familiar with sattelite-images may noticed that every sattelite has its own purposes and reasons why they were send up in space.

Lets take a closer look on the Field-of-View for SDO- and SOHO- ( LASCO C2,C3)- images:

Does this give an idea what region SOHO is capturing?

Not yet, though we can say,

What does this say about the actual field of view when viewn, lets say, from earth?

We can derive the actual field of view by first analysing the Stars/Planets as I did in the following illustration:

Original random-Image from SOHO LASCO C3 (In this case I took it from http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/pickoftheweek/old/01jun2012/VenusC3_June2.mov )

Now, how can we identify the stars in the background and what are these two dots on the left?

Using Celestia (Freeware) revealed that the two dots on the left are Mercury & Venus and the star-cluster on the lower right was identified to be Aldebaran.

Large Version: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/ufnuh2cm/SOHOC3View.png

So now we approximately know how “broad” the perspective of LASCO C3 is.

Furthermore, where is SOHO actually riding? And what would it look like from another perspective?
According to http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/classroom/faq.html#SOHO_ORBIT ,

SOHO rides at the L1 point, which is about three times farther than the Moon:

Projected to a screenshot from Celestia:
Large Version: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/csfyqt7b/satteliteViewC3.png

And from a even farer perspective including the other L-points (and sattelites):

Large version: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/z9wqtqob/satViewComp.png

How can we project the field of view into the perspective viewn from earth?

We know that the Field-of-View of this particular LASCO C3 images goes from a little more than Mercury and Venus on the left to a little more than Aldebaran on the lower right.


So now we just need to add this approximation into a regular Skymap-Software (I used Stellarium) :
Large View: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/ethewoqx/stellar23.png


So the red circle you see above, is roughly what SOHO LASCO C3 is capturing, when viewn from earth..

Why is this relevant?


The posting we were talking about ( http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/soho-and-user-captured-moonswirl-pics-saying-the-same-thing-they- )compares Alberto’s images with Sattelite images though they are totally different matters:

Images of LASCO C2 ( mid view) , and images of LASCO C3 (broad view) are compared with images taken from earth and said to be showing the same.  

A supposed “PX capture” on LASCO C2  IS NOT THE SAME as a capture on LASCO C3, despite bringing these in relation with images taken from a regular camera! These are THREE PAIRS OF SHOES!

What im trying to say here?


Most members on the PS-Ning do not really have an idea what they’re talking about and are mostly speculating on matters, though they appear to “have made their homework”.
 
I am an amateur about these matters myself and as such I certainly would be more careful with throwing out conclusions into the public like that.


I hope you don’t simply trust what I or anyone on the PS-Ning states as by doing this you’re giving away your responsibility to someone else.


Note that piling up a lie may seem “substantial” at first glance but doesn’t make the initial lie any righter!


(As this is exactly the principle of Nancy’s work.)

Afterall it is a big lesson for us to think more independently, to avoid jumping on conclusions, or giving away our responsibility to think for ourselves.


P.S: Did you noticed that the Moderators pushed the false claims about the venus-transite again?


Gordon G.Gianninoto brought up an article on “UFO-digest” and obviously came across my comments on the PS-Ning when we were originally believed the SWAP images are showing a “venus wobble” since he used my gif-animation as “proof” in his article.

Check my original comments: http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/venus-transit-june-5th-6th-surprise-resulted

Quoted from Gordon’s article: http://www.ufodigest.com/article/venus-bunny-hops-across-face-sun-slow-motion-sine-wave-unlike-predicted-course

“Second, and more importantly, VENUS BUNNY HOPPED ACROSS THE SUN IN THE TRANSIT. This is totally INEXPLICABLE by conventional calculations and knowledge UNLESS THE PRESENCE OF PLANET X IN BETWEEN THE EARTH AND THE SUN IS FACTORED INTO THE EQUATION. Think I am kidding? I am not. Look at these links, a gif and a youtube video, and see for yourself:

http://api.ning.com/files/ZHxqo1yPr0JlCEbA9gK4*RLGiEyCU-YQPyCJiPiEPjEriIhEC7301mO*fUHTEEN7dJhAW1cd8tNg60h33YBy1XENiDoFDMbn/SWAP_VenusWobble.gif

(^^ my gif-animation)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHwiSv-LjaQ&feature=player_embedded”


BUT,
He better should have read the other comment aswell or the comments below his article, since this “Bunny Hop” its logically related to Proba2’s orbit as explained in Case 3 in the Story-chapter (in case you have missed it).

Seems someone was too quick with conclusions again.


BTW: I made a rough approximation (accurate up to +-15minutes) of the predicted path of Venus compared to the actual path for those who still have doubts:

Note that the Sun is slightly displaced upwards in the last couple of images which respectively places Venus a little above the predicted path. (If the position of the last images is corrected Venus will remain centered to the path.)

OPEN GIF ANIMATION HERE:

http://www.imagebanana.com/view/ljzw5mjh/aia_venus_Comp2.gif

I used helioviewer.org for the Source images, and this sheet for the predicted path: 

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2012/12-38.html


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28 / 06 / 2012 ( 23:16 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: Earth stopped in its Orbit?

Remember Nancy claims that Earth is stopped in its Orbit?

Part of the update below can be considered for this “theory”:

If Earth is supposed to be stopped in its orbit, wouldn’t the sattelite-images always need to show the same stars in the background since earth is not moving further on its path?

Does this seem to be the case?
No way! You can clearly see the stars passing, as earth travels further on its counter-clockwise orbit. http://sohodata.nascom.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/soho_movie_theater

Did Nancy/“the Zetas” already stated that all stars on the sattelite-images must be doctored too?

Not sure about that, but if Nancy didn’t stated this as yet she needs to tell this to have her “earth is stopped in its orbit-theory” seemingly right.


Everything must be claimed to be doctored as the sattelite-images show normalcy and this includes stars, comets and planetary movements.


Then Nancy can claim “the mighty Council of Worlds” simulates permanent normalcy to maintain the “element of doubt” as she did before - even though this is illogical because on the one hand she claims planets are supposedly somewhere else, while on the other normalcy is constantly “simulated”.

There’s always a “joker” in Nancy’s world to explain reality away.

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02 / 07 / 2012 ( 00:51 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE: Brain Wobble

Whats going on at the PS-Ning after a couple of days passed?

On the surface all seems like business as usual though a closer view reveals that a lot is going on behind the scene.

Lets recap some facts:

What is causing these changes? Or are there increasing changes at all? 

I dont have a solid answer about this one as yet  though would like to pinpoint some thoughts:

Also we should remember:

Conclusion?

We’re surely living in interesting times and its very hard to tell what the future may look like...
Afterall we’re on our own to figure out what is going on and accordingly we should try to view matters from a neutral perspective without prejudicing.


I think we are most safe by being open/neutral yet skeptic about theories and possible explanations for the present changes. In this manner it is very important that these remain THEORY until you have something solid to move further with assumptions.

ZT is the perfect example that “solid proof” may not be solid at all. Piling up a lie, or making claims that are impossible to prove may seem “solid” at first glance...but as it turns out “solid” is a relative state.

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06 / 07 / 2012 ( 01:03 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE:  The real Puppet-Master
The following informations will give you an idea what means of Manipulation Nancy is using to assure that nobody questions the “status quo”, or furthermore how Nancy creates “zombies” within the Moderation to enforce her ideologies on their own.

As some of you may noticed there was a lot of discussion on the Debunkers-Paradise-Thread on GLP: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message814739/pg1071#32083181

 Under the aliases “truth”, “fake personas”, “More about fake personas” and most lately “The Truth teller” someone obviously ignored the facts and kept defending Nancy’s theories even though not providing any solid arguments.

Who is that person?

Since I know the “hierarchy-structure” among the Mods or know most of the Moderators for a couple of years now it was clear that this is astrogal50 a current Moderator of the PS-Ning.

Why is this relevant?

Astrogal per se is not relevant, but her influence or furthermore her assigned role is important to understand how Nancy operates to achieve her goals.

Astrogal is called the Moderator of the Moderators among the Mods and if you thought Gerard is Nancy's right arm you're wrong as it is astrogal!

Why is she called the “Mods of the Mods” and why isnt it Gerard ?

That term actually originates from a statement ( or a set of statements) that the Z’s (Nancy) made about her on the Admin Ning.

It all started with astrogal herself which claimed to have had a lot of experiences that led her to the assumption she might be a star child or an “old soul” or having an important role....


Nothing special among the Mods who are frequently speculating about such issues since most of them (and probably everyone) has a tendency to seek answers about yourself.

As the Moderators have daily contact with Nancy it shouldn’t be a suprise that “indirect demanding of personal ZT” occasionally occurs... and so it occured with astrogal who always enjoys a special treatment by the Mods because she prevented Nancy (and even G) from getting problems a couple of times.

Nancy does not like giving personal ZT because she cannot read minds. However if she has enough background-info’s or if you can provide enough $$ or if you could be of use elsewhere, she does.

What did Nancy ( the Z’s) claimed about astrogal?

Since Nancy is familiar with psychology, she knew about astrogal’s personality and so she is aware that astrogal has the courage to step forward when others prefer to be silent. (- The reason why it was her who popped up on GLP and truely is a positive characteristc of astrogal.)

However Nancy also knows that astrogal has another side to herself where she lacks self-consciousness & being highly insecure about herself as would be obvious if you ever were a Moderator for a while. (Alex, Lothar, Malou got to know her and can confirm this tendency.)

What could Nancy claim to take advantage of this personality?

Per the Zetas on the Admin-Ning astrogal50 was declared to be,

Astrogal of course believes anything that Nancy says and as such she bought into these (totally absurd) claims too.

She thinks the only reason why she is not being hunted down by the governments is because she recieves “ET-protection from death”while even per Nancy herself Aliens are supposed to be able to change things but not change people.

( And beside any Moderator has access to statistics where it is a cake to trace back any Moderators IP - where a true Public Enemy Number 1 could never be online as himself for a longer period of time without getting found! )

I mean, play with the though yourself to see how absurd it is:

Who (really) could be public enemy number one?

I dont have a clue but that person must mean a higher threat than drug-lords, mafia-leaders, international hunted “terrorists” or war-lords!

How are TRUE THREATS being hunted down?

Go figure! Big brother is watching us and if astrogal50 would be truely “public enemy #1”, she’d be killed faster than we can figure out the absurdity of this claim.


That said... I think I don’t need to further elaborate these totally absurd claims about poor astrogal which really doesnt deserve this all (she is lovely person that simply was brainwashed).

What did Nancy created?

Nancy turned a lovely woman into an aggressive self-convinced mind-zombie that now enforces the ZT-ideology on her own while totally avoiding self-criticism because she allegedly must be a 7D-soul and a “threat bar none”.

Sad reality, isn’t it?

How about hierarchy among the Mods?

The hierarchy among the Mods goes as following:

Nancy ( never ever to be questioned ),
astrogal50 ( executive authority and to be considered correct in case of disagreements due to her alleged 7D-status = wise soul ),

Gerard ( owner of the Ning ),
Core Moderators ( long-time-Mods / I belonged to these )

New Moderators ( they are supposed to shut up and listen until they “got a hang of it” )

How about the other Moderators? What kind of people are they?

You may be suprised, but for the most part they are just like you and me.
They are truely caring people and I want to outline that everyone of them is honest and not consciously lying at people!


They think they are on the right track (blinded by false motives) so shouldn’t be blamed exclusively.  

They are unable to discern why Nancy was right on occasion but clearly wrong on others.

All of them came across the alien-presence, the major conspiracy theories or noticed the “earth changes” and so were simply looking for answers!

Nancy managed to provide these answers with a seemingly “caring motive” and so all of us started to get comfortable with ZT because we believed we finally found “the one real truth”.

That said, please do not prejudice about Moderators but instead try understand their pyschological situation. After all what you are experiencing now with the Mods is a SOLID example of deep denial and the one responsible for all this is the one real puppet master, Nancy.

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08 / 07 / 2012 ( 00:32 UTC+1 ) - UPDATE:  Venus sine-wave wobble? Proof of the Earth-wobble?


I will try to make it short:

Nancy is trying to prepare the public for her failed claims about the Venus-transite.

Beside she already confirmed the Proba-2 images per the Zetas (as explained in Case 3 in the main-story), she is now claiming that the only (supposedly) wrong about Venus was the “sine wave wobble” shown on the SDO overlay:


http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/7-of-10-status-as-of-july-5-2012

"Poor blind NASA, too busy looking into the distance to notice what was causing a daily Earth wobble, fireballs screaming in, a sine wave wobble in Venus during the recent transit, and extreme twisting in the Earth’s magnetosphere. "

So whats the deal with the slight sine-wave shown on the SDO-sattelite images?

Once again Nancy did not bothered to check where these images are coming from or furthermore what orbital-behaviour lies behind these images.

What is the orbit of SDO?
http://www.heavens-above.com/orbit.aspx?satid=36395


http://www.flickr.com/photos/gsfc/3635846225/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tLyy8Ls32-g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbnVwTAD5WU (A lunar transit on SDO, confirming the inclined orbit)


Now imagine you’d be sitting on the SDO sattelite making images of the Venus-transite.
The sattelite has an inclination of 27.8307° to the equator which produces the figure eight as seen from earth.



What do you think would the Venus-overlay later look like, when you were traveling on an 27.8307° inclined orbit?


A SINE WAVE!

The same applies for the alleged “Proof of the Earth Wobble”-blog that the Moderators pushed recently,
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/proof-of-the-earth-wobble

Some Members noticed that the FY-2D images were seemingly showing the earth wobbling  so assumed this must be “Proof of the earth wobble”.

Check out this gif-animation for the “phenomena”: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/uu349zpq/FY2D_tmp.gif

What do the images show?

A perfect figure eight ”wobble” every 24 hours.

Where do these images come from?

http://www.heavens-above.com/orbit.aspx?satid=29640

From the Fengyun-2D-sattelite traveling on a geostationary orbit with an inclination of 2.4051° which means that the sattelite is not perfectly aligned with the earths-equator so produces a sligh figure-eight aswell (when seen from earth).

Fengyun-2D also has 1.00269488 revolutions per day which means that it roughly travels once around the earth in 24 hours... So all images from this sattelite would need to show a “figure eight wobble” every 24 hours.

Is this the case?

YES! http://www.imagebanana.com/view/uu349zpq/FY2D_tmp.gif
Also check-out this animation provided by bob_909 from GLP: http://www.zetasquawk.com/FY-2D.gif


So what do the “Venus-sine-wave-wobble” and the “proof of the earth wobble” actually prove?

That the sattelites are exactly doing what they should be doing!
(And that some people just jump on conclusions...)

Thanks for the support misconceived-debunkers, actually just people who bother to dig deeper into claims rather than blindly trusting.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message814739/pg1071

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10 / 07 / 2012 ( 23:12 UTC+1 ) - QUICK UPDATE:  Notice

 
Im on vacation for a week so I won’t be too active,

however the public is doing a great job in exposing Nancy’s lies! Check the debunker’s paradise:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1920415/pg1#32143963

Fortunately Nancy is dumb enough to make too many mistakes these days so she’s basically debunking herself.

Did you saw how Nancy tries to present herself as the poor victim, admitting she is posting disinfo (supposedly to “disarm the establishment”)?  

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/planet-x-moons-visible-in-light-from-venus

Comment by Nancy Lieder yesterday

Sorry for the wild ride folks! But we are expecting signs in the skies. This was, you note, NancyTalk, not ZetaTalk. The initial photos did not show stars in the background, and until videos came in same time frame showing more stars, the patterns did not line up. Does Nancy stumble? Heck yes, I'm only HUMAN after all. And sometimes the Zetas do not alert me to this as it is done on purpose to mislead or disarm the establishment.


So the “wrong-Venus-transite”-lie was intended to disarm the establishment?
The “Earth is halted in its orbit”-lie intended to disarm the establishment?

The supposed Dark Twin on Neumayer 3 intended to disarm the establishment?
The supposed PX debris on SOHO EIT 171 intended to disarm the establishment?

The supposed PX captures intended to disarm the establishment?

….

Seems like a desperate (poor) attempt to cover-up her lies and avoid responsibility for it.


 BTW: Greg, a member from the PS-Ning exposed the latest “PX-Moon-Swirl-Venus” claims to be nothing more than the Pleiades, Jupiter, Venus and Aldebaran.


(and congratulations to the Moderators for not cencoring simple facts! )

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/planet-x-moons-visible-in-light-from-venus

Nancy is obviously rather desperate these days.... she never claimed something to be a moon-swirl even though it is far far away from the sun.

She’s jumping on everything that seems “legitimate” these days.... grasping at straws.

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13 / 07 / 2012 ( 18:26 UTC+1 ) - QUICK UPDATE:  “When Prophecy Fails”


I’d like to bring up this excellent reference that someone on GLP brought up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails

Quoted from Wikipedia:
When Prophecy Fails is a 1956 classic book in social psychology by Leon Festinger, Henry Riecken, and Stanley Schachter about a UFO religion that believes the end of the world is at hand.

Cognitive dissonance

Festinger's theory of cognitive dissonance can account for the psychological consequences of disconfirmed expectations. One of the first published cases of dissonance was reported in the book, When Prophecy Fails (Festinger et al. 1956). Festinger and his associates read an interesting item in their local newspaper headlined "Prophecy from planet Clarion call to city: flee that flood." A housewife from Chicago (changed to "Michigan" in the book), given the name "Marian Keech" (real name: Dorothy Martin (1900–1992), later known as Sister Thedra[1]), had mysteriously been given messages in her house in the form of "automatic writing" from alien beings on the planet Clarion. These messages revealed that the world would end in a great flood before dawn on December 21, 1954. Mrs. Keech had previously been involved with L. Ron Hubbard's Dianetics movement, and her cult incorporated ideas from what was to become Scientology.[2] The group of believers, headed by Keech, had taken strong behavioral steps to indicate their degree of commitment to the belief. They had left jobs, college, and spouses, and had given away money and possessions to prepare for their departure on the flying saucer, which was to rescue the group of true believers.

Premise of study

Festinger and his colleagues saw this as a case that would lead to the arousal of dissonance when the prophecy failed. Altering the belief would be difficult, as Keech and her group were committed at considerable expense to maintain it. Another option would be to enlist social support for their belief. As Festinger wrote, "If more and more people can be persuaded that the system of belief is correct, then clearly it must after all be correct." In this case, if Keech could add consonant elements by converting others to the basic premise, then the magnitude of her dissonance following disconfirmation would be reduced. Festinger and his colleagues predicted that the inevitable disconfirmation would be followed by an enthusiastic effort at proselytizing to seek social support and lessen the pain of disconfirmation.

Sequence of events

Festinger and his colleagues infiltrated Keech's group and reported the following sequence of events:

Conditions

Festinger stated that five conditions must be present, if someone is to become a more fervent believer after a failure or disconfirmation:

Now compare this to Nancy’s (optimized) version aka. “ZT”.
The remaining Moderators should seriously ask themselves if they fit into the conditions of a fervent believer after a failure or disconfirmation.

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20 / 07 / 2012 ( 23:12 UTC+1 ) -  UPDATE:  On thin ice


Time for another update, isn’t it?

Firstoff, what’s going on at the PS-Ning?

Obviously, business as usual... However a lot of obvious (false) claims have been pushed recently while the Moderators wiped out the majority of their fellow members.

From 5291 members,  1512 are currently left.

http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/members/ (72 pages x 21 members)

Why the heck did the Moderators removed all these Members?


Since I originally designed their “Important message to all members of this Ning”-posting, I know the rest of the story aswell.

As I adressed in the 20/6 Update the purpose of the “member-purging” was detailed by Nancy on the admin-Ning:

“[...] The goal is not only to learn something about our members, but to put THEM on the defensive. It should not be WE who are on the defensive, feeling bad because we have denied them free range in this, Gerard's "publication", but rather ask them why they should have the right to post!”

If you can read between the lines you’ll notice that this is yet another step to ensure a “closer circle”, a more opressive attitude while putting new members on the defensive right from the start.

“Why should you have a right to post doubts or anything contradicting  ZT when it allegedly has so much accuracy?” - goes the thinking desired.

Was the purging really necessary?

Not at all. The appeal that I made to the remaining Moderators on the 21/6 Update was ignored completely even though these members ment ABSOLUTELY NO HARM!
However it should not be a suprise that they purged the members anyway since Nancy certainly would have a HUGE INTEREST in having all these members removed which recieved my broadcast-email before I resigned as a Moderator.

Now Nancy brags for a “fresh-membership” in the hope that they are free from any information that could reveal the truth about herself,

so she is discussing the issue with the remaining Moderators to find out how they can prevent such “takeovers” in the future.

Nancy learns from her mistakes and wants anything but quitting lying at people. (She is the last to be expected to “grow up” and admit what she’s doing..)

What are the false claims that were pushed on the PS-Ning recently?

As you may noticed Nancy recieved some images from his favorite spokes-puppet  Gordon J. Gianninoto supposedly “proving the Earth Wobble”. Or not?

BTW: Gordon is the guy that in Nancy’s mind can be used as a spokesperson (since he points to ZT and all) though is considered too ego for any other task:

Per her own words from the Admin-”Watch” about Gordon:

Reply by Nancy Lieder on May 27, 2010 at 8:35pm

I know him, but would scarsely call him a friend. He emails me constantly, but it is in the context of HIS statements to dozens of people he feels should know about his opinion on things. He may have been in the GLP chats but not as a registered identity, not that I recall. When learning that GLP chats would stop, he immediately mailed me 9 questions and by the time he got here (where he was directed to go by me) it had arisen to 12. Most of these were just tacked on so he could be piggy about it, my take, not well thought out.

I agree with (Moderator 4) to give him enough rope to hang himself. I think he will realize he is not king in this environment, and like most bullies will pull back. If not, private advice (and I would probably be the vehicle for that) should be applied. He obviously values ZetaTalk, and I refused, flat out, to take his questions via email. My words "I didn't stop doing the chats on GLP to start taking questions via email". Maybe he's insecure? Afraid of being cut out of the action altogether? He is getting 3 questions addressed, so may settle down. He may try to compete, instead, by becoming the ZetaTalk expert and you know, that might not be bad.

I note when challenged to quote where the Zetas said the dispurants were harmless, he found the Zeta quote and posted them, proving me right and he wrong! So not altogether hopeless, there is a curve here.


and:

Reply by Nancy Lieder on November 11, 2010 at 12:35pm

Gordon has written to me that he will be on C2C also. Thus, if he is getting out there on the media (his fervent desire) and is such an advocate of ZT (he heavily values their advice and takes them dead serious) we should NOT suspend him!

I would treat him like we do Mr. X, as an excentric, with problems, but overall a contributor. Oh, I forgot the EGO! Big egos, some of these guys.

WOW! How STO from Nancy... isn’t it?
Looks like Gordon has potential to become another blind follower...

Oh! He’s one already and voluntarily spreading Nancy’s claims in his name. (Sorry dude, you need to wake up aswell!)

So lets get back to Gordon’s latest input: http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/wobble-moon-capture-by-gordon-james-gianninoto

Two images of the Moon in a close intervall are supposedly showing the “earth’s wobble”: http://api.ning.com/files/amAAaCyhBa7A2h6ZAbbMTrVg9WUO3Z2wjtwBVxx6y3-xY8bl7RHhE*LUCBb1Ha*8sJK0eWytEs1yt3GYMz9GFQiuajRKGHXT/AnimationWizard2.gif



What do these images show?

Clearly the one image is wiggled and the Ningsters take it for granted that it must be showing the Moon wobbling. (Why? Because Nancy says so!)

Yes, you’ve seen right. They have such a “solid” proof these days that all they have to offer is a set of wiggled images!
Hilarious!

What else?

Remember Nancy’s claims about the alleged “Dark Twin appearance on Neumayer3”?


If you aren’t familiar with it I’d suggest to read Case 1 in the main-Story to understand why Nancy failed so utterly on this one..

Now recently someone brought it up again per chance and guess what,
Nancy makes the same old mistakes again!

From her latest 7/10 status: http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/7-of-10-status-as-of-july-19-2012

Clearly this dim orb is not the Moon nor is it Venus, as a quick check on Skymap shows.  At 21:10 UTC the cam is looking West, the Moon is in the East, and Jupiter and Venus are below the horizon on the West, not visible from this S Pole location.

Now is the cam really looking West?
NO!
As was proven before, the cam is actually pointing South-East! NOT WEST.


A fellow GLPer, Hydra, adressed this correctly here: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1929210/pg1

“Well, Poleshit Nancy - the camera is not looking towards West - it's looking to the South-East, exactly 143°.

You can compare the constellations in the photo above with a star chart for prove.”


Case 7?

Some of you surely remember when Nancy claimed CIA-funded Black-Ops deleted over three hundred members on the PS-Ning. If you missed it, don’t worry as its still available here: http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/ecapsning-attacked-by-black-op


Were members really deleted at that day?

Yeah!

By the CIA or a black-Ops how Nancy claimed?

Nope!

On that very day (before the members were deleted) there was a heated discussion on the Admin-Ning.

The former longtime-moderator Ken Harris had some disagreements with other Moderators and openly discussed them on the admin-chat.


At some point Ken disappeared from the discussion and shortly after that the other Moderators noticed that member-numbers were dropping.


Accordinly admin-rights were instantly taken to stop the deletions.


What occured?

According to Nancy, alleged “CIA-blackOps” took advantage of the situation deleting members “to stir the pot”.


Per ZT on the admin-Ning:

SOZT

The black ops we referred to DID have Ken's password as Ken is not attached to the Internet via land line but using wifi at point, thus an intercept is possible. It will frankly be impossible to prevent password theft from this group, who are expert. They could take any mod's password, if they set out to do so. It is not deleting the entire membership that is the goal, at present, as that would be too obvious and in fact enhance the ning's reputation. The goal of the black ops is to divide the mod group, destroy the cohesive cooperation among the mods. Thus, when Ken was online they began deleting members to stir the pot, to create heated argument and finger pointing, which did occur. Neither Ken nor Lothar deleted members, and certainly Lothar should be reinstated.

EOZT

So Nancy was basically saying, it wasn’t Ken. ( She thought this would be a safe-claim since Ken was not a Moderator anymore and left the Nings ).

Anything else was considered by the Mods but Ken doing it himself in an attempt to prevent misleading of innocent people.

What is Ken Harris saying to these claims?

It was himself! Ask him if you wish. https://www.facebook.com/ken.harris.739

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21 / 07 / 2012 ( 02:49 UTC+1 ) -  UPDATE:  Buffer-Overflow or simply burn-out


The following came in suprisingly. People on GLP noticed that Nancy’s latest ZT Q&A brought up obvious erroneous claims once again:
www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message814739/pg1067

Billy Madison wrote:

I have to admit that the latest zeta talk Q and A has failed to impress. In fact I'm terribly disappointed. A video of the occultation of Jupiter being passed off by Nancy as a "hoax"... Even I could read the Youtube comments and do a quick google search to find out what was going on.


What is Billy is talking about?

A video popped up showing something near the moon. As will be obvious from the ZT, Nancy didnt really had an idea what this might be or if the video is real at all!
Simply reading the comments of the video, like Billy did, could have brought her to the answer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssPYi26zgtQ

Lets look at her ZT-claims:

 http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/21jy2012.htm

A video was recently uploaded to the internet, shot by a camera, undescribed. Apparently depicting an object in the vicinity of the Moon, or at least at a similar declination etc as the Moon north pole: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssPYi26zgtQ

Wolverhampton UK on July 15, 2012. Would the Zetas please give their unique insight on this?

SOZT
On can see upon close examination of the video that the orb in question is not solid, but light. The solid Moon retains its appearance when the camera jiggles, where the orb has a delayed reaction to being moved, appearing smeared. Camera lens record the light over a period of time, and thus when the camera is being moved an object can appear in more than one place on the lens. When some objects move, and others remain solid, this indicates they have a different source. The jiggling of the camera is intended to imply a nervous photographer, a hand held device, and thus imply legitimacy. Could the Moon be filmed from behind glass? This is not evident from the video, but this is the case, with a light laser pointed at the where the tip of the Moon crescent would appear. The distance between the cam and the Moon, and the cam and the window, differ. Thus in a zoom, there is an adjustment to one, but not the other. This is a fraud.
EOZT

So Nancy (actually per the “Zetas”) is claiming:

Um. okay..

On the contrary:

Halcyon Dayz, FCD from GLP brought up these details about the Jupiter-occultation:

All the occultations and eclipses happening on schedule like clockwork is all the evidence one needs to determine that Earth hasn't halted in its orbit.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120720.html

Also Hydra adressed it more detailed here:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1925698/pg1

Ad hoc: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1931162/pg1


Quoted from: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120720.html

Moon Meets Jupiter

Image Credit & Copyright: Cristian Fattinnanzi

Explanation: Skygazers around planet Earth enjoyed the close encounter of planets and Moon in July 15's predawn skies. And while many saw bright Jupiter next to the slender, waning crescent, Europeans also had the opportunity to watch the ruling gas giant pass behind the lunar disk, occulted by the Moon as it slid through the night. Clouds threaten in this telescopic view from Montecassiano, Italy, but the frame still captures Jupiter after it emerged from the occultation along with all four of its large Galilean moons. The sunlit crescent is overexposed with the Moon's night side faintly illuminated by Earthshine. Lined up left to right beyond the dark lunar limb are Callisto, Ganymede, Jupiter, Io, and Europa. In fact, Callisto, Ganymede, and Io are larger than Earth's Moon, while Europa is only slightly smaller.

Could the “planet-like-object” in the video (that Nancy claimed a fraud)  be the occultation of Jupiter?

If the video was taken around July 15. 2012 in a visible area (like Europe), yes. Most likely.


What are the details of the video saying?

Title: Planet Like Object Near The Moon 15/07/2012, Wolverhampton UK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssPYi26zgtQ

Coincidence?
Nope. The video is real and Nancy is obviously exhausted.

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30 / 07 / 2012 ( 16:01 UTC+1 ) -  UPDATE:  UFO or Goodyear-Blimp?


The PS-Ning, specifically Nancy, keeps doing lots of mistakes regardless of obvious disconfirmation being presented.

Members who say otherwise are being hunted down by Nancy’s regular means of manipulation, called “mindless” or needing to “kick start that brain”.


Maybe it is Nancy or the remaining PS-Moderators who need to kick start their brains and stop blindly trusting someone who’s being proven wrong repeatingly?


Don’t expect too much though.. as they are in hard denial, unable to face solid evidence and need to wake up on their own.

People on GLP are doing an excellent job as usual in exposing Nancy’s lies:

This time - Nancy (per the Zetas) called the Goodyear-blimp at the London Olympics 2012 Opening Ceremony a UFO because she apparently was too lazy to look things up in detail.

Quoted from: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1939044/pg1

Per Nancy (the Zetas):

SOZT

As has happened in the past, a UFO display showed up at an event where many private video cameras were recording the event.

...

The 2012 Olympics opening was another such event, recorded LIVE and delivered to audiences around the world. By the time the

authorities realized what was happening, it was too late. YouTube videos of the event have already gone viral, and official

news channels had no choice but to admit it, and even discuss it – Skynews leading the way.

EOZT

So the Zetas officially told Nancy, that an UFO showed up at the London Olympics 2012 Opening Ceremony.

A single frame of one of the videos posted on her site ( [link to poleshift.ning.com] )

In contrast a photo taken with a proper camera from about the same location.

Posted on the Goodyear site.

(The part in the red box was blurred and contrast enhanced to simulate the shitty video cam).

Another photo showing clearly the Goodyear blimp:

Goodyear statement regarding the aerial coverage of the London Olympic Games 2012: [link to www.goodyearblimp.co.uk]

Blimp tracker - where the blimp is located at the moment: [link to www.goodyearblimp.co.uk]

Links to the original photos:

[link to www.goodyearblimp.co.uk]

[link to farm9.static.flickr.com]

[link to farm9.static.flickr.com]

Image of the 2012-Goodyear Blimp:

Quoted from Menow from GLP:
Someone dared to question the "facts" as presented by Nancy:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by Fra. Iens 6 hours ago

Hello all!

I don't want to be a debunker in your eyes. I respect Nancy and Zetas.

But if this a UFO then where is GoodYear blimp?

And why there are panoramic videos from the angle of this UFO?

Regards,

Steve.

He was duly chastised for being "mindless":

Comment by Nancy Lieder 6 hours ago

@Fra

What! Have you even LOOKED at that blimp video? Panoramic views? SkyNews takes vids from their chopper! Heavens, people you have to start thinking! Kick start that brain of yours and stop posting mindless stuff like this, really!

Blimp

Of course, she didn't answer his pertinent question of "But if this a UFO then where is GoodYear blimp?"

Conclusion:
It is clearly the Goodyear-blimp and Nancy does not like being caught wrong.

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26 / 08 / 2012 ( 17:01 UTC+1 ) -  UPDATE: A Modest Rebuttal Update

I will distance myself from anything from the earthchanges.ning (Cheryl’s Ning) content.

Cheryl Nelson was a former Moderator at the PS-Ning too and if you are interested about the latest rebuttal, check this out:

http://www.zetafart.com/

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26 / 08 / 2012 ( 21:42 UTC+1 ) -  UPDATE:  “STO”-Surveillance

This time im going a little into detail how their “Admin-Ning” works.

It should be noted that the Moderators (except Nancy who is aware of her motives) are convinced that all they do is absolutely necessary for the sake of maintaining the status-quo.

So - how does it works?

The PS-Admin-Ning has four main categories of discussions:

The Misc- and Admin-discussions are generally used for organisation purposes. Collect - Elaborate - Post.

The two latter categories form the vast majority and they are basically used to collect data on members.

What do these discussions contain?

The ones of interest in this matter are the Watch/Suspended-threads.

Let me say that you can most easily find yourself on such a discussion if you express that you are a skeptic in any way.

An example:
Nancy called the Goodyear-Blimp at the London-Olympics 2012 a UFO and you post something like: “Huh? Could this be the Goodyear-Blimp and not a UFO?”

This comment would very likely result in a “Watch” discussion about you and Moderators would start to watch you more closely in the future while starting research on your personal data if needed.

The Watch discussion would be titled something like this:

WATCH - Thomas Honest (doubting ZT, possible debunking)

And the content would likely include,

- a link to your profile page,

- your “profile answers”,

- your personal E-Mail and all information they could find through your data by checking search engines (if needed),

- and of course the reason why they deemed to place a Watch on you.

Is this all they know about their members?

No.
Even as a non-member they know a lot about you.
The PS-Ning uses statcounter.com which is a service that tracks certain data by cookies.

What data?

If you have these cookies allowed (99% of the cases), the PS-Mods know about:


The majority of the Mods use it for plain statistics (to my knowledge) - but when they suspect a threat, they look into detail.

What criteria do the Moderators use to formulate a “Watch” or suspend people?


The basic criteria is respectively their “Premise and the Rules”, though it is true that unwritten Rules are enforced aswell.
A hunch, that someone may mean trouble, can be enough to suspend someone if you are considered a trusted Moderator.
There have been instances were several Moderators went through the whole membership to enforce a certain policy,

- the strict no groupformation-rule that resulted that Moderators went through the whole membership (one-by-one) and anyone who openly contacted nearby people was suspended for “possible group formation”.

> ( group formation involves Liability which is something to be in any case to be avoided with Nancy & PS-Ning.)- their thinking

Who or what are they so frightened about?

Lets try to place ourselves into their shoes:
They believe,

On the contrary,

They are suffering from false facts and a resulting paranoia.

Do the Mods ever answer as to why they suspended someone?


You may already know it if you have been suspended before.

If not... in most cases they simply ignore these e-mails.

What do you think would the Moderators do if they would have access to your personal messages? (No, fortunately, they dont have access to personal messages)

They would read them. No doubt! -  Because they would think you might be a hacker, black-Ops, debunker, disinformer, black-mailer, Batman or maybe just a regular human? Hmm - certainly - Big brother will be watching you.

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28 / 08 / 2012 ( 16:17 UTC+1 ) -  UPDATE:  “The Guru is always right.”


The following is partly quoted from the “Cult Test”, http://orange-papers.org/orange-cult_q0.html

1. The Guru is always right.

The Guru, his church, and his teachings are always right, and above criticism, and beyond reproach.

In some cults, the guru is dead, but the principle is the same. I use the word "guru" loosely here; in many cults the charismatic leader has the title of minister, priest, yogi, swami, prophet, or all-knowing wise man. Or even, "Chairman Mao." In any case, the leader is always right.

2. You are always wrong.

Cult members are routinely criticized, shamed, ridiculed, discounted, diminished, and told in dozens of ways that they are not good enough.

...

Cult members are also told that they are in no way qualified to judge the Guru or his church. Should you disagree with the leader or his cult about anything, see Cult Rule Number One.

Having negative emotions about the cult or its leader is a "defect" that needs to be fixed.

A corollary to this rule is the practice of lowering members' self-esteem by a variety of methods:

3. No Exit.

There is simply no proper or honorable way to leave the cult. Period. To leave is to fail, to die, to be defeated by evil. To leave is to invite divine retribution.

Members are often taught that all kinds of bad things will happen to them if they leave: They will lose all of the spiritual progress that they made while they were in the cult, or they won't be able to get into Heaven, or the Devil or demons will get them, or they will relapse and die of drugs and alcohol... That is another standard cult characteristic: The Cult Implants Phobias, and more of the usual threats and fears are listed under that item.

4. No Graduates.

No one ever learns as much as the Guru knows; no one ever rises to the level of the Guru's wisdom, so no one ever finishes his or her training, and nobody ever graduates.

5. Cult-speak.

The cult has its own language. The cult invents new terminology or euphemisms for many things. The cult may also redefine many common words to mean something quite different. Cult-speak is also called "bombastic redefinition of the familiar", or "loading the language".

6. Group-think, Suppression of Dissent, and Enforced Conformity in Thinking

The cult has standard answers for almost everything, and members are expected to parrot those answers. Willfulness or independence or skeptical thinking is seen as bad. Members accept the leader's reality as their own.

Ask a candid question,

Get a canned answer.

7. Irrationality.

The beliefs of the cult are irrational, illogical, or superstitious, and fly in the face of evidence to the contrary.

8. Suspension of disbelief.

The cult member is supposed to take on a childish naïveté, and simply believe whatever he is told, no matter how unlikely, unrealistic, irrational, illogical, or outrageous it may be. And he does.

9. Denigration of competing sects, cults, religions, groups, or organizations.

This is commonplace, and hardly needs any explanation.

What is curious is the degree to which the hatred of others is based on similarity. That is, the closer two groups are in their beliefs, goals, activities, philosophies, appearances, and everything else that defines the group, the more they seem to hate each other.

10. Personal attacks on critics.

Anyone who criticizes the Guru, the cult or its dogma is attacked on a personal level.

Rather than honestly and intelligently debating with critics, using facts and logic, the cult will resort to low personal attacks on the critic, using name-calling, slander, condescending put-downs, libelous accusations, personal slurs, accusations of bad motives, and casting aspersions on the critic's intelligence and sanity


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A comparison to ZT?

Conclusion?
ZT has ALL the hallmarks of a fear-inducing doomsday-cult.

Sincerely, I would suggest the http://www.2012hoax.org website to get an idea what we’re dealing with.
Also the following links are very informative:

http://www.2012hoax.org/youtube
http://www.2012hoax.org/planet-x

http://www.2012hoax.org/nancy-lieder

And how to detect BS:
http://www.2012hoax.org/detecting-bs

Quoted from: http://www.2012hoax.org/baloney

Common fallacies of logic and rhetoric

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30 / 10 / 2012 ( 21:18 UTC+1 ) -  UPDATE:  Debunking yourself.

Short Sum:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QbHEeoTWnPo

Ok. Now that was a really short version of it :-)
If you’d like to read a more vigorous version,

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16 / 06 / 2013 ( 20:22 UTC+1 ) -  “WEIRD” UPDATE:  “Wasquito”?!


Wasquito (wɔ-skt):
Wasquito Deceptensis is a yet-to-be-classified parasitic-, non-biting-, predatory-Hominidae who is marked by the ability to pretend a symbiotic-relationship with its prey by means of psychological deception.
The term “Wasquito” is derived from Wasps (Vespidae) and Mosquitoes (Culicidae) and is essentially useless. (GLP et al - 2013 )

If you want more useless news, here’s another one:
For some reason the remaining Moderators believe someone took over my account to essentially do the same thing I was doing before, which is debunking ZT and Ninny Lieder.

“Ann S.” of whom I suspect to be a current Moderator, indirectly hinted about LIEders claims about me, purposely to stop the other Moderators of dealing with my persona and my overall mindset. (http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blogs/bingo-a-paid-internet-shill-s-comfession)

This is nothing new if you are familiar with this document and it shouldn’t be a suprise that Im benevolently participating in exposing this other lie for what it will take unless it won’t just waste my time - because I really think if the body of this document was not able to challange a believers mindset, there’s not really much left that I can do anyway.

If you want to know why this document hasn’t been updated for so long, part of the reason is mentioned above, another reason is that I deemed it finished, another is that I was discussing the daily BS on GLP, the infamous “Debunker’s Paradise-Thread” under the alias MoreAboutTunnelVision: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message814739/pg1 (Last page=most recent)

What about a webcam/Skype conversation with the Moderators?
Even though this would be an excellent opportunity to resolve this issue, up to this day I haven’t recieved a response to my numerous requests.

Whats left for me to do?

I don’t know.. and im starting to get annoyed of the lenghts I have to go in contrast to the passive behaviour of the rest of Moderators in this issue. (Except Ann, of which Im grateful to bring this up, because she appears to be the only one left in command who actually cares what I might be doing. - This posting is for you.)

- OLD -
But to give this another chance, I will be opening up a separate chat room on the GLP-chat today where you can ask me questions live or just have some smalltalk!
1. GO TO: http://chat.godlikeproductions.com/
2. Choose a Name as a guest (anonymously) or sign in with your GLP account.

3. Enter the Room “A debunkers paradise” with the Password: wasquito

(I’ll be there today from around 20:00 to 24:00 UTC+1 if anyone is really as bored as to come talk to me...)


ANYONE IS WELCOME.


I don’t really expect that opening up a chat-room on GLP will produce wonders among those hardened believers, but its a start to signalize presence from my part.

I am still here - I will be here. And I am sure this issue will not be solved by this update either.

The debunkers are still debunking Nancy for what it is, and if you want to stay tuned on more recent progress - just check out the debunker’s paradise on GLP. http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message814739/pg1


 If you miss some specific debunking of more recent ZetaBabble, you might very well check out Hydra’s threads on GLP:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/search/memberid Search for ID: 86558  in a timeframe of your choice.

Here some links (TOP: Most recent):
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2233642/pg1

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2156737/pg1

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2103363/pg1

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2051359/pg1

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2047768/pg1


A special thanks goes out to all the people participating in countering Nancy’s daily BS.

Keep up the good work everyone.