Admin

I tried to log in and it said i was banned. What was the reason for the ban? i logged in earlier tonight about 30 minutes before a server restart fine. i logged off before restart and tried again several hours later with a ban message. i wasnt even in game, how could i be banned if i wasnt even playing?

03/13/2015 10:16 am

Hello chris,

All of the information we are willing to provide has been provided, as a private server provider we are not obliged to release all of the information in regards to your ban, this information is for internal reviewing.

Regards,

Breaking Point Administration Tea

03/13/2015 10:24 am

Hello chris,

Regards,

Breaking Point Administration Tea

03/13/2015 1:16 pm chris ross

I would like to appeal the ban then as i have done nothing wrong. It has come to my attention that several other plays that i was in a legion with have also been banned allegedly due to our association of another single player. I know you cant discuss any of this, but i do trust you will find that i personally have done nothing against the rules and remedy this as soon as you are able. i do enjoy the game and would very much like to continue being involved in the alpha/beta process. Thank you

03/13/2015 10:51 pm

Hello chris ross,

Playing with someone that is a hacker is a ban-able offense and thus your ban state will remain unchanged. We thank you for taking part in testing of the mod and I wish you the best of luck in the future. If you need any other support not regarding your ban please feel free to ask if not have a good day.

Regards,

Breaking Point Administration Team

03/13/2015 11:26 pm chris ross

I had no idea any one was hacking. How can i be held responsible for something someone else did unknown to me? That is not fair or right by any standard. I play legitimately and have to pay a price because someone else didnt? Explain to me why that makes sense please. If i knew what this other player was up to i would have cut ties immediately. But i didnt find out until after the ban. Thats not right

03/14/2015 1:06 am

Your friend or whatever he is to you was hacking on our servers as you were appealing your ban he was creating a new account to come back on our servers, the best thing you could have done is cut ties with him the moment he got banned. We have a zero tolerance policy in regards to hackers on our servers. He apparently told you he was banned but came back on two more accounts and continued to play, you do not think that is at all sus? This ban is not going to be revoked in the immediate future, come back after we have exited alpha/beta.

03/14/2015 1:59 am chris ross

I wasnt even in game. I got a steam message from someone else saying everyone got banned because of the hacker. If you are banning me based on an assumption i knew when i wasnt even at my computer thats a poor admin job if thats the case. I did nothing wrong and i am being punished for someone elses faults. You have banned several kegitimate honest players. You policy is flawed and punishes innocent players. Great way to keep a player base. If bans are handed out to the offender and all immediate acquaintances you guys are going to run out of players fast. That inconsideration is going to bury this game before it even reaches beta. I highly suggest you guys reevaluate you policy before there are no more players to ban

03/14/2015 5:07 am

You guys have been playing with him for a month, according to what your friends have said in other tickets. You are all trying to claim innocence when there were people playing with him on our servers as he was hacking and still on playing with him and others when he came back on his alternate account and even after being banned the first time you guys were still playing with him, now I am unsure of when he told you he was banned but I assume when you are playing with someone and they get banned they would more than likely mention it or you would notice the message of him being kicked. I know you specifically have at least two of his accounts added so to say you were not playing with him is false. Why does someone need two accounts specifically for breaking point unless you have some bad intentions, which was proven by your friends actions. If you play with hackers, you have them spawn you in gear, you run around and take advantage of their ESP and whatever other tools and scripts he is running if we find out we permanently ban everyone involved. In other words, playing with a hacker and taking advantage of his hacks earns you a ban for quite a long time, after alpha/beta we may review these bans but for the time being they will remain. It is really simple actually. Your friend who was hacking was reported by a user on our TS and upon looking into him it was apparent that he was indeed hacking and I really doubt the story of "he just started hacking yesterday" which I also saw as a claim in another of these tickets.

For a group of people who are supposedly innocent you seem to know exactly what happened, almost as if when he made that brand new account and you were all unbanned you guys could just hop right back into it. Well, unfortunately that is not going to happen because we do not think any of the users banned will be valuable alpha testers and because of that as well as a few more reasons which I have already gone into and others which I will not go into you guys will remain banned. Go find something else to do with your time because this is the final call for our administrative team. We have already spent enough time on these bans and nothing is going to change, after alpha/beta (in the future) if you appeal we may think about it then but for the time being you will all remain banned. The hacker will remain banned permanently and anyone who creates a new account to try to avoid our bans will also be permanently banned.

03/14/2015 5:23 am chris ross

are you for real? are you absolutely for real? you are making nothing but assumptions about my perceived guilt with absolutely NO evidence other than the guy was on my friends list and we grouped up in game. No one said anything about being banned, or ESP or any of that other stuff at all at any time. the first time i heard about the guy hacking was about 3AM EST after 6 hours of me not even being in game and apparently hours after all of this went down. if you are banning people based on the assumption that each of the players know every little detail about the other then that is the worst basis for a ban system. If he was doing anything illegal and wrong thats on his back, and i had no knowledge of it until hours after i was banned. And what do you mean "i know exactly what happened"? i know this kid was hacking because i was told he was by another banned player in the group. He told me the kid was in TS, said he was banned for hacking. The TS channel got a password on it and he was no longer welcome as im told. Its incredibly unprofessional to ban people with no hard facts just assumptions and accusations. This isnt the first time ive seen and heard of you admins abusing your power and acting like spoiled children with your powers. People like you will be the downfall of this mod, and Deathly will end up making it for himself with no one to play it.

03/14/2015 5:44 am

The problem is he wasn't just hacking for one day. Where do you get these claims of admin abuse? basically if I do not lift your ban right now I am an abusive admin?

I am trying to keep the servers clean from cheaters and I help users on a day to day basis which I am also doing voluntarily. Only users banned complain about the admins because they know we do a great job everywhere else, the lack of hackers and support we give on TS is proof of that. You say that deathly will end up making this mod for himself because of us? deathly thinks we are doing a great job and is glad he doesnt have to deal with this BS on a day to day basis. If we had things deathly's way we would be in closed testing with 50 alpha testers who actually report bugs. We honestly do not have to put up with this, call us spoiled children all you want, it has no impact on our judgement and this is the final judgement from our administrative team. As a private server provider we could remove you from our server for any reason and in this instance we have already told you why and I honestly think it is a good enough reason, you play with a hacker for roughly a month, he spawns you gear gets you vehicles etc, we find out and we ban you. We may allow you to come back after alpha/beta so don't burn your bridges yet. Unfortunately you will not be testing our mod any further though, we have already wasted enough administrative time on a ban appeal that is literally going no where. Come back after alpha/beta and appeal your ban, or choose not to, the choice is yours but as of now all these bans will remain until a later date.

03/14/2015 6:11 am chris ross

You are banjing innocent players on nothing more than assumptions. That isnt doing a good job. Thats abusing your power instead of finding the truth. I dont give a crap about the other guy. I gave him a piece of my mind as soon as i found out he was the reason. Im angry at the fact that honest players are being punished because your baseless assumptions point to guiltvwhwre there is none. As soon as that players true colors were shown all ties to him where cut. But go ahead and think you are doing a good job. You arent. No developer in their right mind would ban players wiywithout absolute proof that that individual player was themselves personally hacking. Show me screen shots of these alledged benefits you claim i enjoyed. Show be proof that your claims are true and mine arent. You have nothing against me except this asshole who was on my friendslist and i grouped with for a month. You have nothing. But to you i am nothing so what do you care. Go ahead and ban more clean players. Ive already posted this convo up for others to see how backwards your policies are. You and your admin team are in the wrong. I am not