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ubi Orpheus ambulavit?

Answer

Agree/Disagree

Further Notes

Orpheus a rege ambulavit

per illum mundum

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

ad terram

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

in terra

X

sub terra

✔✔✔

a regina ambulavit

✔✔


quid Orpheus vidit?

Answer

Agree/Disagree

Further Notes

umbras vidit.

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

Cerebrum vidit.

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

solem vidit.

✔✔✔✔✔

coniugem vidit.

X

Magistra’s note: Is there Latin to back this up!?!?

Orpheus canem non vidit.

Orpheus coniugem non vidit.

✔✔

Orpheus Cerberum et regem vidit.

Orpheus Charon vidit.

Magistra’s note: What chapter did this happen in?

aves vidit.

silvam, flumen, animam

Magistra’s note: Did he see these things, really?

reginam vidit

✔✔

multa vidit.

Orpheus Cerberum et umbras et solem vidit.

flumen non vidit.


What was different between the first time Orpheus walked through the Underworld and the second time?

Answer

Agree/Disagree

Further Notes

The first time, he went alone, but the second, he had her soul.

The first time he was hopeful and determined, the second he had his wife.

X

The first time he wasn’t accepted because he wasn’t dead, the second he had been helped by the king and queen

X

The first time, he got sent away, the second he was allowed to see his wife.

X

The first time he was more hopeful, the second, he was more determined.

The second time, his wife followed him back.

✔X✔✔

The first time he was sad, the second time he was happier.

✔✔✔✔✔

The first time he saw the king, the second time he saw the ghosts.

The first time he was singing. The second time he had doubts.

The first time was to find his wife and the second was to get her back

✔✔

Magistra’s note: Do we have any Latin to back this up!?!?

Orpheus was not scared the first time because of his music. He was scared the second time.

X

souls were everywhere

✔✔✔✔✔✔

The first time he went to find Eurydice

The first time he went to find Eurydice, the second he saw all the ghosts.

The first time Pluto was angry and Orpheus sang to Charon, but the second time Pluto was nice and let him have Eurydice back.

Magistra’s note: hmmm… could this be reworded to make more sense with the reading?


Why is Orpheus questioning Pluto’s fidelity?

Answer

Agree/Disagree

Further Notes

He did not believe Pluto had given him Eurydice.

✔✔

Because he had been told not to turn around.

Because he did not see his wife.

✔✔

He couldn’t have Eurydice

He questioned absolute trust because he wasn’t sure that he’d actually gotten her.

He didn’t know if Pluto had her and he didn’t see her.

✔✔

He did not hear his wife when he started to hear things from the Earth.

He has more faith in himself than others.

He didn’t trust Pluto and loves his wife too much.

He has too much on the line.

He had no signs of his wife behind him.

He didn’t trust Pluto

Because he is the king of the Underworld and he thought he was going to trick him.

✔✔

as soon as Orpheus left the Underworld, Eurydice disappeared, so he felt that Pluto was not real to him.

XXX

Orpheus sees souls and wonders if Pluto gave him the soul of his wife or another soul.

X

Magistra’s note.. hmmm… didn’t we see this sentence somewhere?

He told him not to go to the Underworld.

X

Magistra’s note: could we reword this to work?

He saw everything else besides Eurydice.

solem vidit et aves audiebat, sed coniugem non vidit.

✔✔

Pluto is very angry, so Orpheus doesn’t know if he’ll deliver.

✔✔✔


quid NON licet Orpheo agere?

Answer

Agree/Disagree

Further Notes

iter facere Plutonem visitare.

se vertere

✔✔✔✔✔

coniugem videre

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

ad illum mundum se vertere


quid Orpheus vidit et audivit in terra?

Answer

Agree/Disagree

Further Notes

solem vidit et aves audivit

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

Orpheus aquam audivit.

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

aves audivit et flumen non vidit.

✔✔✔

silvam non vidit.

✔✔

aves vidit

✔✔✔XX

Magistra’s note: aves VIDIT??

silvam vidit

Magistra’s note: hmmm… it seems like some of these answers contradict each other!

canem vidit.

Magistra’s note: in terra!?!

aves audivit. carmen faciebant.

animalia vidit et ventos audivit

Magistra’s note: Do we have Latin to back this up!?

mox solem vidit. mox aves audivit. mox aquam audivit. mox aliquid audivit.

X

Magistra’s note: could we reword this to make it work?

Orpheus vidit et audivit solem, flumen, aves, et reginam

Magistra’s note: could we reword this to make it work?

umbras vidit

X

flumen et aves

X

solem vidit. silvam non vidit, aliquid audivit


How does Orpheus’ opinion change through the chapter?

Answer

Agree/Disagree

Further Notes

He goes from happy to upset.

✔✔

Hopeful to unsure

✔✔

He loses trust in Pluto

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

Confident and then loses that as time goes by.

From trust to losing that trust.

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

He becomes less desperate because he knows he’s getting his wife back.

X

antequam, Orpheus regi credidit, sed mox Orpheus regi non credidit.

In the beginning, he believed Pluto, but then he didn’t.

He believed he could get his wife back, but then he didn’t.

He was saddened by her death, but then he goes to get her back.

His opinion of Pluto went from mean to nice.

Orpheus didn’t have a lot of trust in Pluto, but then he knew if he’d kept his word.

He thought he was lucky and then unlucky

He started by following Pluto’s instructions, but then he doubted them.


What is Orpheus’ tragic flaw?

Answer

Agree/Disagree

Further Notes

inability to trust

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

obsession with Eurydice

✔✔

He doesn’t know how to let things go.

love for Eurydice

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

Loving Eurydice and being impatient

Plutoni non credidit.

loneliness

✔✔

lack of listening skills

Not getting what he wants

Being “in his feelings”


What is Orpheus’ fatal decision?

Answer

Agree/Disagree

Further Notes

He turned around.

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔X✔✔✔✔✔

He didn’t trust Pluto

✔X✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

Lost faith in Pluto

✔✔

He didn’t follow directions.

✔✔

sub terra ambulavit

✔✔

deciding to sleep under a tree.

existing

ad coniugem se vertere


What do you think Orpheus’ downfall is?

Answer

Agree/Disagree

Further Notes

His loving heart

X

Magistra’s note: is this a downfall? Is this his punishment/loss?

crazy love for his wife.

✔✔

Magistra’s note: is this a downfall? Is this his punishment/loss?

His loss of trust

✔✔✔✔

Magistra’s note: is this a downfall? Is this his punishment/loss?

disobeying the orders of Pluto

Magistra’s note: is this a downfall? Is this his punishment/loss?

His big heart and doubts.

Magistra’s note: is this a downfall? Is this his punishment/loss?

The death of his wife

✔✔✔

His wife dies and he stops singing.