Chilly's Segment
IMPORTANT: DO NOT go after anyone mentioned or involved in this document. This going public is enough as it is, as they refuse to handle it privately in a timely manner through the appropriate channels. You may make your own assumptions or conclusions, but more needless drama is not needed. This is our first time making a Google document, let alone one on such a sensitive subject.
Trigger Warning! Sensitive topics ahead!
This is all about a developer in Dragon Adventures, one that goes by many names throughout the document: ForcedToMakeBlood, Pootis, & NotADirtyCasual
He will be referred to as “Blood” for this document,
and Nostal might be referred to as “Sara” in any media present!
To start with, this tab will be from Chilly’s perspective, from what was observed, talked about, and experienced throughout the whole ordeal. The others present in this will be referred to as Celci, Nostal, and Whisper.
Everyone who worked on this will have different text colors!
For context, when this all happened, I had been good friends with Celci and Nostal for a while prior to this. I hold Nostal dear to me, as a close friend. For any upcoming video files on YouTube, I’d suggest turning up your video quality.
Celci invited Blood to a server on Discord, one that was kept to close friends of Celci, me, and mutuals, including Nostal. She recently was talking to him and thought, “This guy seems pretty cool, I’ll give him a chance”, and within not even 2 days of joining, he had suddenly, in his words, “caught feelings for Nostal”. Nostal felt flustered by it, but didn’t fully reciprocate and made a bit of a wall between the two while she figured things out (This included not directly messaging her/flirting for Blood specifically).
This entire thing was weird to me, but I figured it was just me being jealous. Below are messages in video format of the following events. The quality may not be the best (turn up your video quality to like 720p), but it was either this or hundreds of images. The cuts in between are separate video files, I did no further editing. My full client was recorded. -> https://youtu.be/8vcy_2dGU_k
Forwarding a bit, I’m still unsure what made me open up to Blood, but I genuinely wished him and Nostal the best and to be done with it. What I did not want is to be constantly asked for advice about Nostal, in direct messages and in voice calls in the Discord server we resided in. Blood made it a common event to wait until me and Celci were the only ones with him to ask questions that he should have asked Nostal herself, such as “Guys do you think she likes me?” or “I want to talk to her more, but she doesn’t want me to dm her. What should I do?”. This was daily and mostly on voice calls, and he never liked the answer of “simply respect her wishes”. The two still talked in public voice channels, Nostal just didn’t want direct contact yet. They wanted distance because they were unsure about how they felt or how to put it into words. More talking points of said video will be explained later.
Following the turn of events of Blood’s constant nagging, I began to get a bit annoyed with him at the time. While I do understand that some people will be spiteful about it, I am not that kind of guy, I just didn’t want anything bad to happen to Nostal, much like the people that took advantage of them in the past.
Now for the bit where things started going south. A couple of days later in the timeline above, I came home from work and joined a voice call with Celci and a mutual friend of ours who we’ll call “Dark”, and apparently shortly after an argument happened with another person we knew, Oscar. (And goes by he/they according to their own Roblox profile.) Oscar had accused Celci of unfair treatment towards Blood, and didn’t give Celci the time of day to even share her side of it. It does not help that Celci is rather sensitive. Afterwards, Oscar went to Nostal and told them an entirely false story to make me and Celci seem unreasonable. I am unsure of what exactly either of them told Nostal (and unfortunately, Nostal has the memory of a rock), but Blood, at that time, already seemed annoyed at me for being defensive in my direct messages. Oscar never came to me directly about what I supposedly did to them either. As far as I am aware of why Oscar was mad enough at me and Celci to backstab us (again), I, along with Celci and Dark, called them “their” and somehow that sent them over the edge despite not having a problem with it months prior. It made them feel “disrespected”, and in response, “they” threw all 3 of us under the bus, which helped Blood isolate Nostal and feed them with more false information to further their distrust in us. I’m still a little hurt that Nostal did not come to any of us before believing them at face value, but have since forgiven them.
I’ve seen and been a victim of a lot of manipulation in the past, and I can tell you it’s 10x easier to manipulate someone who is alone. It’s a lot harder to consider that you are being manipulated when under a lot of stress.
Now to summarize the last bits of this video; the bottom of it consisted of me asking Blood to not talk about my business to other people, as I had asked of him before in call, and that was after I found out he told Celci that I liked Nostal (and implied so to Nostal herself). Anything else private we had talked about he couldn't understand, he also had gone to Celci about. After a bit of talking to Celci on call later, I asked to talk to Blood about something that’s come up between him and Celci, since sometimes they don’t want to talk to others about pressing matters. I will admit, the way I brung it up was not the best. Blood mostly just yelled at me and refused to listen to anything I said, and later told Nostal I was harassing him. He tried to say I was straight up harassing him because I was jealous of what they had. I wish I was making this up, but onto our next video link.
https://youtu.be/BZlvOL4RRkw
Celci had made this separate channel in the server so everyone involved could talk about the discourse between us, and resolve it. Oscar was a part of this too until they left the server on their own. As you scroll down, you get to the point where I and Celci have grown tired of his shenanigans. The next video will add further context.
https://youtu.be/FHsDGr3-tx0
The rest listed in that video is everything I talked to Nostal about, including Blood still attempting to repeatedly lie and not take accountability for anything he did. I do not have Oscar’s side to it, as they chose not to talk to anyone, except for Celci (this was found out a week or so after the events of this document). Despite everything Oscar did, Celci is convinced they are not that bad. I humbly beg to differ. This is the second time Oscar has backstabbed Celci, and the first time is unrelated to this document.
Moving on, here’s some further proof of the identity of the person this entire document is to be about. The next section of this has a lot to offer.
To start with, Blood was 21 at the time of this occurring with Nostal (if this is incorrect, he lied to all of us about his age) and Whisper is 3 years younger than him from what she told me herself, which makes the exact time they dated all the more intriguing, implying they started dating when Whisper was freshly 18 or younger. In addition to this, Blood was possessive over Nostal when I was around. What lines up between Blood mentioning what he finds attractive about them, is their “lisps”. If you’ve heard of the term “infantilization”, it might be worth noting. That’s very specific and I'm aware, but it doesn’t help that he’s told me on call that “Nostal reminds me of my ex”, to which Blood would not elaborate. At the time I wasn’t aware that Whisper was his ex, so that random thought of his confused me. When I asked about it, he said he couldn't put it into words, and kept trying to change the subject. However, it was late at night, and it's hard to pressure him when I’m equally as tired.
Check the official Dragon Adventures or Creatures of Sonaria servers for yourself if you’d like to make sure. If that isn’t quite enough for you, here’s their user ID on Discord. 724316854738485311 <- Blood
https://discord.com/invite/ZARyQbvcUY
This document was started back in the beginning of May. Nostal, Celci, and I have been constantly asking around to the Dragon Adventures staff to no avail, having our Mailbee ticket not taken seriously or ignored, and almost being silenced. If they would rather not give us any sort of answer or explanation, what else can we do when we’ve tried everything we can think of?
Onto the next section, Here’s further screenshots of Nostal trying to get in contact with Mailbee, and the message dates help a lot with the context needed.
It should be observed when this was taken, and be known that this happened before the response from Mailbee, stating that they were still reviewing the case.
After this, there were further responses from the Mailbee ticket, which will be listed below.
After this last message at the bottom, there have not been any further messages received from Mailbee.. In addition to that, Nostal also reached out to Blastii herself. To those that do not know who she is, Blastii is the lead developer of Dragon Adventures (as of making this document). There will be a continuation of Blastii’s conversation with Nostal in the “Aftermath of July” section of the document.
All I want is for this to be resolved, not delayed any further, as it shouldn’t have gotten to this point to begin with. Since you’ve made it to the bottom, I push you to read the other 4 sections on the left of your screen.
Celci's Segment
Hello there! I am Celci and here is my description & evidence regarding ForcedToMakeBlood’s troubles. I will retell this as accurately as possible, minus what I cannot remember from the general abundance of voice calls we had. I am a legal adult and I have witnessed all parties in this document testify their sides of the situation; each retelling how Blood grew close to them, developed their friendship, then used them as he saw fit in an attempt to gain their trust and his closeness with Nostal.
Early April I was spending my off-work time idling in Undercity (in Dragon Adventures on Roblox, this is a trade world) and doing the usual - selling dragons, talking to others, generally hanging out and minding my business. A friend of mine, Whisper, had pointed out in my private chat at the time that someone who had joined, looked familiar. Upon closer inspection, the individual caught her attention and she informed me she had to leave. The person in question was apparently Blood, her ex-boyfriend, who she did not have a good ending with and therefore wanted to avoid him in-game. Whisper said she recognized Blood’s username from ages ago and was astonished he had joined her game, given that these two had not properly spoken to each other in years. I told her I may catch up and follow her soon, as this person was starting a conversation with me about their work on the other popular Sonar Studios game, Creatures of Sonaria. I was intrigued by meeting someone who worked on sound design and I was curious to learn more. He offered to show me samples on Discord, where I obliged and opened up my DMs with him there to preview the sounds he was showing off. Blood showed various roars he created for CoS alongside concept roars for Dragon Adventures. This was days before he got accepted onto the Developer Team for DA.
Deciding to become friends with Blood, I wanted to learn more about him, not just as a developer but in worries to Whisper’s recent information regarding him. All she provided to me at the time was the fact they both had a terrible fallout and he was mighty obsessed with trying to contact her again. Blood downplayed it by saying he did not contact her as much as she said, and that all he wanted was peace between them and to speak with her. Which to Whisper’s defense I would not allow, as there seemed to be deeper transgressions beyond the surface. During my Saturday shift at work, I was able to call Blood and speak with him at last, mainly asking him questions about his sound work. Sometime during our conversation I brought up Whisper and wanted to know his side of the story. He described their relationship with little truth. I was oblivious to the full story at the time due to how much he covered up. Blood made it seem like she was overreacting to his previous efforts and that he ultimately wanted to make things right by her. Of course he admitted there were faults of his own, such as lashing out at her after their breakup, but he passed off her close friend as being overbearing and Whisper herself ignoring him. Blood also stated that after their breakup, she had ghosted him and wanted nothing to do with him, which for once is true.
I knew there had to be more Blood was not telling me, as Whisper never came off this level of skittish around anybody else. For the time being, I chose to sweep my worries off to the side and keep a close eye on him. I rushed my trust in him and invited him to my Discord server meant for my friends. Since then it’s been a never-ending nightmare of his true colors showing.
Celci isn't comfortable sharing all of her messages between her and Blood, as some of it is rather personal. She wanted to highlight the big important talking points, rather than making everything she’s worked on art-wise public knowledge. I put together what I can with what I have with Clipchamp, without any further editing. The third person in the call besides me and Celci is Dark, who may have mentioned earlier. Lastly, the relationship problems Blood described to me and Celci were about his ex before Whisper, so it was technically true, but a play on words.
For the few weeks this chaos lasted, I kept my distance and monitored the situation. It was rapidly growing out of hand, what with Blood’s ignorance towards Nostal asking him not to flirt. He would continuously break the boundaries of all parties involved here and keep this romantic agenda rolling. At one point, he gaslit Nostal into believing Chilly and I were being too protective of her and trying to ruin what they had going, causing her to stray away from us and become more active with him through DMs. Everything reached a boiling point one night and I put my foot down, going straight to Whisper over Discord to ask her if this behavior from Blood was active before.
Whisper’s answers gave us full insight to Blood’s concerning and manipulative tactics, and how he could surrender one person’s entire world view to comfort him. He latched onto Nostal and seasoned her with compliments, flirts, essentially love bombing her. This was all done while forging a split in our friend group to combat Chilly and I from growing too close. From there, I brought him into one last voice call to sternly tell him off and to seek therapy. This behavior had been going on for years and every single time he figured he wouldn’t get caught. He was fully aware of what he did to Whisper, while also playing us for fools and acting completely dense. I saw through his lies and chose a full retaliation for the safety of my friends. I alerted everyone via an announcement to instantly remove and block Blood, I cleared him out from our server and stopped any form of contact with him, and I gathered everyone involved to step up and assist in creating this document.
This document is valid proof that Blood is an active threat to the younger, more malleable players of Dragon Adventures and Creatures of Sonaria. He seeks the comfort of those he can easily convince that he is a good person, fabricating that he only wants the best for them. I am convinced with Whisper’s, their friend’s, and Nostal’s experiences that our friend group will not be the only one he will target. Blood should not be operating on any of Sonar Studios’ games, let alone given any social connection to them, for he simply believes he can get away with everything he has done. Whether Blood is a good sound designer or not, he cannot be trusted. He is a chronic sociopath and cyberstalker, you can make your own conclusions on the rest.
Note: Chilly again, I found a screenshot that Celci missed when putting this together, showing a little bit of the context of who Oscar was and their behavior after. None of us asked them to be a part of this situation, Oscar put themselves in that position, and made everything worse due to their dislike for Celci. We will come back to Oscar in later sections of the document as well.
Pasted above and will be screenshot evidence of one major warning I gave to Blood. I have had to scold him several times to apply the brakes and slow down on building up anything with Nostal, as she was uncertain herself about what she wanted to do. Despite this, he would not listen to Nostal whatsoever.
Nostal's Segment
These are the messages between me (Nostal), and Blood. Most of the grooming-like behavior was done on call when it was only me, Blood, and Oscar. From what I recall, Oscar tried to say Chilly and Celci were being “helicopter parents”, implying they were trying to pry into my private business. Blood would say Chilly was being too overprotective. This is the first of four videos I recorded of the messages between me and Blood down below.
P1 https://youtube.com/shorts/9HrECXXgmMM?si=6H0b2TzAJeCvXada
Since the start, I’ve told him multiple times that I was not comfortable with starting a relationship. I told him to get to know me better first, even explaining what had happened with a past situationship, and was not ready. Instead of listening to me, Blood continued to flirt with me, ignoring any and all boundaries I set.
P2 https://youtube.com/shorts/zjx7Uh6-KD4?si=CHcUlqGML7XnK-az
Most of this part was done on voice call, with Oscar and Blood further convincing me to distance myself from Celci and Chilly for smaller concerns. This could just be solved with communicating looking back on it, as well as saying they were prying into my business. From what I recall, Blood tried saying that he left Celci alone and Chilly was coming after him mindlessly.
P3 https://youtube.com/shorts/4sjuxDLRAXc?si=BiutQ1y1qZcCRQvo
Most of this was again, done mostly on voice call. Both Blood and Oscar tried pushing me away from Chilly, Celci, and Dark. I believed all of this until I got the messages from Chilly himself. Blood continued to ignore me wanting to be friends first and still continued to push boundaries.
P4 https://youtube.com/shorts/HG1J2EYWaF0?si=kq0JibuGEL394QQa
Even more boundary pushing. I told him to not be flirty multiple times via text, and over voice calls. I did try to be playful about it in order to shield myself from past trauma, but it may not have been the best choice looking back on it.
Here are some messages from Oscar to Nostal during the ordeal as well. The videos and forwarded messages should be shown in one of the other video links. Nostal missed this when writing their section.
https://youtube.com/shorts/iEWqqmUjrUk?feature=share
Whisper's Dismay
Chilly here again, topping off the last section from Whisper’s side, from Blood constantly stalking her for years, to a recent message of him pleading with her after recent events. I’ve done my best to organize them into a video the best I can, but parts may still be missing. Whisper refused to help write the document, only providing the videos and screenshots you’ll see in this section. This part will be of past events where it would seem a similar situation to ours has transpired, and some from after everything with Nostal, but I only have what’s here, and no contact with Whisper.
https://youtu.be/4LGDzUhuKrg
^ Regarding this, I cannot get a better looking video file to work with, and the original video file is too small to read. As for context in the video I can make out, it is Whisper showing their messages with someone named “Skyrat”, as well as part of Blood’s messages. I know it's hard to read, but you can still see the large gaps of silence from Whisper as Blood continuously harasses them.
After that, I’m at a loss for the rest.
There’s more behind the story regarding what happened to Whisper’s friend, but take it with a grain of salt, either because she didn't elaborate, or because it's “heresay”. This is excluded for the screenshots and videos clearly showing Blood cyberstalking them. This is why I’ve put my focus into what has happened more recently with Nostal and Blood before the dust settles.
https://youtu.be/sEOTdxXcC0A <- The direct messages between Blood and Whisper. Here’s a continuation of it below.
https://youtu.be/5qAxokwPaZg
Next is a video showing a "messenger” from Blood (or just his alt), and the video itself should be self-explanatory. It’s behavior you’ll see from Blood towards Whisper in other screenshots and videos.
https://youtu.be/GfugKqaZ5NU
Now, going into the most recent events, which happened during the making of this document. I’ll provide what I can regarding the things Blood sent to Whisper while we were getting all of these videos and screenshots from her.
These are screenshots that appeared during the few hours of Blood being unblocked for Whisper, she did so to make it easier to read. The screenshot of my Discord client is to show when the message appeared, so that you, the reader, may verify it with the times between everything else in this document. Here is a screenshot to show the gaps between when these two last spoke to each other. How did Blood even message them in the first place? They were both on the Dragon Adventures server at the time. Whisper has now abandoned the game and community ever since. Lastly, the screenshots below happened after everything else shown in this section.
https://youtube.com/shorts/jellO4RhyvQ?feature=share
I still don’t know Whisper personally, and probably never will. They mostly dropped all of this information on me and the others while the document was being written, then disappeared before we could process it. I understand being scared of someone cyberstalking you. I understand just how many situations similar to Blood can absolutely mess with your head, especially after the traumatic life Whisper’s told me about in short detail.
I apologize to those who read this document before it was fully done being proof-read, and to the staff team that’s barely active to give any answers. It would’ve been hard to follow, understand, and especially give an opinion on as it was before, especially since it is a developing case. I felt it was important to mention this, as it is relevant throughout the document. Regardless of that, 3 months is a sizable amount of time to have waited for this to go nowhere towards getting solved.
There was an attempt to get this to one of the admins in the Dragon Adventures server before the Mailbee ticket was even created. It was a trusted friend of mine (at the time) who has been rather connected in the moderator scene before for this community. Perhaps it's the breach in trust from that friend, or maybe they needed a break from the internet altogether, but Whisper has been all but unresponsive. I genuinely hope they are okay and wish them the best, if this somehow makes it to them. Lastly, This is just one documented case, there’s many more that go overlooked, from some as high as content creators, but this is not about those situations, this is about Blood in particular. There are a lot of messed up things happening in the Dragon Adventures community, and I hope this document makes a difference, and gives those people the courage to speak up for themselves, and to stop being shunned in the process.
The Aftermath of July
Here’s more video files, behind the scenes being as recent as July, and even more disappointing news. The video link of Blood’s messages clearly shows he hasn’t learned a thing, he’ll keep on deflecting regardless of the facade Chilly put on to get him to talk.
Blood self-reporting-> https://youtu.be/gtTOg9EhWYY
Do note that when Chilly was replying to Blood, he was going line by line with whatever he was saying. Here’s some screenshots, one of which from the above video link and the other being from Nostal’s section, showing the constant lying he’s been doing.
Xaden being rather nosey -> https://youtu.be/rBhcJRWvf18
Blastii herself in Nostal’s direct messages:
Hopefully those screenshots were a nice break from the constant video files. In terms of who Blastii is, that is the Lead developer herself for Dragon Adventures. Some players of the game may remember the “Error Cosmetic Eteralix”, which may have brought back flashbacks for some people. Their excuse for it was as bad as YouTuber “Apology” videos, but this document isn’t here to tear at the mishandled decisions of others.
Xaden however, is someone Chilly got to know in DA recently, and if the video showing their messages doesn't really confirm much, Chilly didn’t know them for very long, but it goes to show how far Oscar will go through to cover up their own mistakes with even more lies. Thanks to Xaden, Blood and Oscar had access to this document, prompting me to delete the original link. From Blood’s perspective, it seems like we just simply took it offline and removed it, but clearly you got something to hide to threaten Chilly legally, especially with the hostility towards him in particular. Even then, you are threatening him over someone having an opinion.
Getting to Blood’s video now, he’s always shown hostility towards Chilly, and our best guess is because he’s close with Nostal, jealousy, or something more personal. Blood practically admitted to most of the stuff throughout this document as well, and tried his best to spin the truth regardless.
Lastly, the final response from the modmail took all the way until July 31st, but here it is at last.
Edit: Thanks Mailbee! News would be nice instead of this.
“No matter the outcome, the evidence will be stored and eyes will be kept on the situation.”
We already knew this was not going to be resolved without some clear acts of corruption, but we all thank you, as the reader, for reading what we have to share. The original link to the document was changed due to some of the people who got their hands on it, and spread misinformation.
The Archive
This section is home to all of the video files present throughout the document, categorized by the owner of said messages.
Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vcy_2dGU_k <- Chilly’s pov
https://youtu.be/gtTOg9EhWYY <- Chilly’s pov post-July
https://youtu.be/7iXnLo8MwuU <- Celci’s pov
https://youtu.be/sEOTdxXcC0A <- Whisper’s pov
https://youtu.be/5qAxokwPaZg <- Whisper’s pov p2
Whisper
https://youtu.be/4LGDzUhuKrg <-the almost unreadable one from Whisper
https://youtu.be/GfugKqaZ5NU <- Whisper’s pov of Blood’s alt
The Friend Group Server
https://youtu.be/BZlvOL4RRkw
Xaden
https://youtu.be/rBhcJRWvf18 <- Chilly’s pov
Oscar didn’t speak much at all to anyone except Celci in direct messages, who is the only one not against Oscar for some odd reason.