UPDATE (4/17/2024) Chuggaa responded please read this first: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zOaX65dY3EmlTrpWZESY4Y3CKni62NOyONli_cfFP2E/preview#
Let’s get right into it, go read the Re: Chugga document if you haven’t before reading this one: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GpSy_2mM0gP4q4uZSnjtSg0vIAIBtMxe5FL-KM4wk5I/view (Oh and also read all the way through before responding)
I’m going to address her accusations out of order from the original document so I can highlight something to everyone reading this document right at the start to state a point that I want you to keep in mind throughout the rest of this document thereafter, starting with this screenshot she provides as alleged proof of her having contact with Chuggaaconroy during the time period the accusations take place in (2010).
I'd like to establish where exactly this Youtube video would have been posted real quick to back up a point I'm going to make later in the doc. As we can see the Analytics and Edit Video buttons show us that this screenshot was taken by the video’s channel owner, meaning that allegedly this video came directly from Lawly’s channel according to the re: chugga document if we’re made to believe she was the one to take this screenshot. (Remember this detail.)
Now that we’ve established this connection I’m going to trace her nickname from the document (Lawly) to her Youtube account using her Gaia online chat logs, to determine whether or not the video shown in the screenshot is real or not.
Starting off these Gaia screenshots come from an anonymous source that has given me links to old public Gaia chat logs linking to the name Lawly:
Link to the original post: https://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/friends-chat/the-detectives-lounge-oh-the-nostalgia/t.55471573_8662/#8662
Archived version of the post:
We can connect this ‘Lawly’ to Lawly from the original document using this next screenshot:
Link to the original post:
Archived version of the post:
Now through the connection of being a fan of Chuggaaconroy and being active on Gaia on the same date as one of the logs Lawly provides, that being the log for Mar 08, 2010 she lists in the re: chugga document, we can determine this account does indeed belongs to Lawly.
This next screenshot connects that Gaia account to Lawly’s Youtube channel:
Link to the original post:
Archived version of the post:
Video in the screenshot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtdVgM-tiLc
And here’s a screenshot of the video itself:
Now I want to emphasize here that this video and therefore this Youtube channel were all public information even before the re: chugga document was created, given by Lawly herself on Gaia.
This is her Youtube channel from the screenshot:
https://www.youtube.com/@lawliet474/featured
As you can see both from the screenshot and from the channel link, she unlisted all her videos ever since she made the re: chugga document. Using Archive.today and the Wayback Machine however, we can put her channel in and find archived versions of her Youtube page one of which dating from December of 2022, before she unlisted all her videos:
Archive.today:
You’ll notice that the previous screenshot says 13 videos but only 12 are shown, and you might be thinking that that missing video is the Giygas video however using the Wayback Machine we can see that that 13th video was actually a short she posted to her channel:
https://web.archive.org/web/20221215203009/https://www.youtube.com/@lawliet474
Now we can finally get back to this screenshot:
In the re: chugga document Lawly states that she only went back to re-examine her relationship with Chuggaaconroy after the Lady Emily accusations came out, meaning that this video would have still been public in December of 2022, when this archived page takes place. Now that we know it would have been public still at the time, looking at the archived pages shows us no result of this video anywhere on this channel:
Now some of you may be tempted to say that if the video was made private we wouldn’t be able to access it regardless, and to counter that if you go to Lawly’s channel now we can see that ALL of her videos have been unlisted, and therefore because this link still provides her other videos it should give us that Giygas video if it did in fact exist. We know it couldn’t have been deleted either because the screenshot says the video was posted 14 years ago, meaning that screenshot would have been taken in 2024 therefore the video would have still been on her channel in 2022 and as such the archived Youtube page would have shown the video, as it wouldn’t have been deleted at the time.
This is strong if not factual evidence that this video and therefore this screenshot were completely fabricated for the document. I wanted to bring this topic up first as it prefaces that Lawly isn’t above lying in the re:chugga document. Keep this in mind while reading the rest of this document.
Now let’s move on to the Discord screenshots she provided to claim that she stayed in contact with him long after her Gaia chats:
You’ll notice that the username has been censored in this and the following screenshots, and i’d like to point out real quick that Discord allows you to change your display names as much as you wish (as long as it’s not back to back to back in a super duper quick fashion), meaning if Lawly wished to remain anonymous she could have changed her display name to Lawly (since she states this is her nickname in her own doc), taken the screenshots, then change her username back afterwards to maintain complete anonymity without censoring the names.
I want to highlight this because it’s critical to understand that because she chose to censor the name instead, this person Chuggaaconroy is talking to could be a completely unrelated person that gave Lawly these screenshots as to back up her claim, as no Lawly name is mentioned nor is there talk of specifically the Gaia chats, only that this is someone Chuggaaconroy has been doing this with since they were teenagers. I want to bring that up to point out that IF that is the case, then these could be entirely consensual conversations being had by an unrelated party.
Something that backs up this claim is the 2nd screenshot she provided right here, and I want you to look at the top right corner of this 2nd screenshot she provided:
As you can see, this above chat log actually comes from a group chat rather than from DM’s, and it should be noted that Lawly does not point this out or reference it in the re: chugga doc, but it is presented as being a conversation with her specifically. This proof of it being a group chat means that even beyond not knowing who the person in the first screenshot is, we also both don’t know who this person is and don’t even know if the 2 people in the 2 screenshots are even the same person. Since Chuggaaconroy has stated that he’s engaged in roleplay with several other people before, this could very likely be from one of those people who gave their screenshots to Lawly, or even Lawly being in the same group chat as someone who was engaging with Chuggaaconroy in it.
This last screenshot here could have come from anywhere really, it’s just of Chuggaaconroy himself with no recipient shown to us:
(Also real quick I just want to point out Discord screenshots are very easy to fake but I don’t want to state that as a fact, however it is still a undeniable possibility)
If Lawly comes out with a recording of her discord logs (by changing her display name (as I’ve stated to protect her identity) to prove this is her in these screenshots then these points would be proven false and i’ll take them down, but until she does just know that we have no clue who the person/people Chuggaaconroy is talking to in these screenshots, and as such they cannot be used as evidence against him at this time.
Finally, and the most important of all the claims, we get to the alleged AOL chat logs.
Now getting into it Lawly alleges that the following chat logs were with Chuggaaconroy over AOL (or in her case Meebo emulating AOL) that she saved to her Gaia inbox by sending the copy/pasted messages to herself. Lawly alleges that Chuggaaconroy has been engaging in inappropriate conversations with a minor, in this case being her at the time, in which she was 15 years old and Chuggaaconroy was 19 at the time.
Here are the screenshots she provided:
Now just as with Discord I would like to mention that I created my own Gaia account and learned that you can change your username twice for free, and infinitely afterwards for a cost of 10 platinum coins (the in-site currency) that compounds every time you change it afterwards (of which I had 1000 platinum in a few days of making my account) so once again i’m going to state that if she wanted to protect her identity she can change her username to Lawly itself rather than censor out the names and user profile (since you can change your appearance whenever you want as well). However for this case it’s not as relevant to the screenshot’s contents, it’s just strange how the name Lawly is censored in the screenshots but not in the logs of the re: chugga document since the logs were allegedly copied on to the document directly off her Gaia meaning in those screenshots the censored name is Lawly if we’re to believe her:
You might be wondering by this point, “If those logs are copy/pasted from AOL, then where’s the proof they actually came from Chuggaaconroy’s AOL account?” and the answer is that there simply is none as of this moment, either because of the method used to transfer or because of the possibility it is fake. I want to be very, very clear about that, we currently have no proof that links these Gaia logs to any of Chuggaaconroy’s accounts to date.
(2/16/2024) Just discovered new evidence, there’s a 2nd person involved in the Gaia logs, and I can prove it. Lawly provides this screenshot in the re:chugga doc:
And a screenshot I made myself by copy/pasting her exact text from the document into Gaia myself to re-create this screenshot:
Now look what happens when I overlay the 2 images together:
As we can see by overlaying the 2 images everything aligns up perfectly except for the names, while the name Chuggaaconroy, the time stamps, AND the border surrounding the text all align perfectly the name that should be “Lawly” in her screenshot is actually longer in text than Lawly, meaning if she copy/pasted this from AOL to Gaia that this person in this screenshot is in fact not her and is an 2nd party (possibly unrelated), and it also means that when she then transferred it to the re: chugga document she purposely changed the name in the logs to make it look like her as we can see here:
This is evidence that there’s in fact a 2nd person involved in these screenshots/logs that is not mentioned in the re: chugga document, quite possibly someone helping Lawly with these accusations. One thing that backs this up is the fact that all the recipients are censored in her inbox screenshot, meaning this could very well be another person entirely Lawly was conversing with on Gaia at the time, showing their own conversation with Chugga.
I don’t want to state this next part as fact but I am going to throw it out there: There’s a chance that because we know for a fact this person is not Lawly this could be someone else helping Lawly fabricate these logs through Gaia, with 2 people making it happen would be much much easier. (Like I said though this is just postulation)
I can think of one way to prove they’re real however, if Lawly records a video (specifically a video) of her opening her Gaia inbox, then refreshing the page (to account for the inspect element tool) and showing us the original dates of the messages she sent to herself, AND showing us every message in their full by scrolling the page for each one, then that’d be solid proof that the logs themselves are real. (And again wanting to protect her identity is not an excuse not to do this, as she can change her username and profile as many times as she wants which means she can change her name, record the video, then change back).
However, as of now (2/16/24) we don’t have any actual proof of these chat logs being connected to Chuggaaconroy himself, we cannot take these Gaia screenshots/chat logs as fact at this time.
Now I'm going to do a 180 with this next paragraph, let’s assume they are real for a second. Chuggaaconroy at the time was 19 years old, and Lawly was 15.
It’s been 14 years since then, he’s grown in many different ways as a person but nobody seems to think that applies to this situation for some reason? It’s not like any of us know his personal development over the years, we just watch him on Youtube. Even assuming it’s real, he could have already dealt with guilt relating to this and tried to move on from it in private to grow as a person, none of us know his personal life and therefore don’t know what he has or hasn’t grown from since then. Put simply 14 year old chats do not reflect current behavior, we know through NCS (NintendoCapriSun) who lived with him up till now when Chuggaaconroy moved out with his girlfriend, that Chuggaaconroy has been in and out of therapy for a while and it’s entirely possible he already went through this before with his therapist and has moved past it by now. Or even so he could have simply grown out of that by this point because he hasn’t repeated this behavior since then as far as we’re aware of, and has shown no clear signs of that behavior to us from him directly.
Don’t harass anyone over this situation, neither Lawly nor Chuggaaconroy just don’t do it, it’s a dick move. I want to state right here that all this can still be real and I could have missed something somewhere. But I also want to say that just because something seems to be too difficult to fake, that’s not proof that it’s actually real and that there might be ways to make it easier to fake that aren’t considered, like the possibility of a 2nd party helping out as a random example (I say this because that’s what everyone says when I bring up the current lack of proof tying the Gaia chat logs to any of Chuggaaconroy’s accounts). To back this claim up, I recreated every single screenshot Lawly provided myself to prove that it CAN be done, however I'm NOT stating for a fact that they’re fake. I’m simply presenting the idea that it wouldn’t be hard to do so in this particular case. (More to the doc under the following images)
DO NOT HARASS ANYONE OVER THIS FULL STOP.
I want to end this document by saying the Lawly docs can still 100% be real and I can very well be completely wrong, this is just the stuff I gathered as a way to point out that we shouldn’t be dogpiling on Chuggaaconroy yet with only this presented to us, and we should wait for more proof if it is actually true. I also want to say that yes I do personally think it is fake, but I don’t hate nor do I condone the harassment of anyone involved in this I just want to discuss the claims made themselves and argue nothing more beyond that. I’m putting this at the end so I can determine whether or not people actually read the whole doc before replying to me on Twitter, so you know if you see anyone saying I didn’t add this disclaimer that they didn’t read it.
If you’re going to reply to this document on Twitter, use the code word “Astro” at the end of the tweet so I know you read the whole thing.
(For everyone who did read through all this though regardless of if you agree or not thank you for reading this far, and have a nice day :D )