Damion Moore X Posts Since November 7, 2025

Tim Ballard finally realizes he was excommunicated from the LDS Church, two years ago! Let me begin with this: two individuals close to Tim Ballard and his family reached out to me a couple of months ago... quite literally in tears, begging me to “ease off” because, as they put it, Tim had “lost his shit.” I promised them nothing. They pleaded only that I listen, as he was “at the breaking point.” So I listened. Their message, when stripped of its varnish, amounted to this: while Ballard is on the offensive, spinning lies, trying to defame and ruin others—he is also, in their view, unraveling. The implication was unmistakable: Tim is coming apart, and someone is going to get hurt. His friends and relatives are now doing the rounds, attempting to soothe the very people he’s attacked, as though the world at large is somehow responsible for Tim’s deteriorating mental state. One has to ask: why go so far as to reach out to the supposed “enemies” of Tim Ballard? Why the sudden diplomacy? Because he is terrorizing them. The pressure is not on Tim Ballard; it is on those orbiting his family, friends, anyone within blast radius. Instead of urging him toward professional help, a sabbatical from social media, or the modest sanity of a bath and sobriety, they seem to expect everyone else to inhale and exhale his delusions as gospel. But here is the unavoidable fact: Tim Ballard cannot escape the fantasy of Tim Ballard. Full stop. No one else is to blame, his victims, the media, the LDS Church, Cinemark, or any other convenient villain. His family is not responsible either, with one exception: Katherine, his ever-faithful enabler. This is the same Katherine who stood by her husband after the Utah Crime Lab found his semen on another woman’s panties... an item submitted not by a suspicious spouse but because it was evidence in a criminal sexual assault investigation. I’ve been told, repeatedly, that “Katherine is as much a victim as anyone.” But the facts say otherwise. Katherine Ballard knew:

• that her husband was accused of sexual assault by a fellow parishioner and under investigation by the LDS Church.

• that donor money from Operation Underground Railroad was funneled through a constellation of nonprofits and for-profits, only to be siphoned into Tim’s for-profit venture, Slave Stealers LLC via donations, ghost purchases, and conveniently layered transactions.

• that Tim used donor money to tithe to the LDS Church, and that his supposed personal contributions were, in reality, paid by unwitting evangelicals, Catholics, and anyone else generous enough to believe in his crusade.

• that Tim fabricated child-rescue stories out of whole cloth no victims, no traffickers, no police reports, no court records, nothing.

• that he paid actors to portray traffickers on camera and even paid others to pose as police officers.

In short, Tim Ballard did not merely lie about his work; he constructed an entire theatrical universe in which he was both protagonist and savior. And those closest to him are now left to manage the fallout of the fiction he refuses to leave. Operation Underground Railroad, in one of its more theatrical displays of virtue, would donate money to local law enforcement under the pretext of filming a promotional video, SWAT teams in tactical formation, doors kicked in, the choreography of justice in motion. The footage, however, was not mere publicity; it was later paraded before donors as evidence of Tim Ballard and his crusaders personally rescuing children from the clutches of traffickers and pedophiles. When pressed to release this supposed proof, Ballard, so quick to publicize his piety...refused to show the video at all, leaving one to wonder whether the performance had ever been meant for anything beyond the faithful checkbooks of the credulous. Tim bribed judges to get warrants in Haiti to raid orphanages under the ruse that it was a child sex trafficking operation. Despite the fact these were not tourist areas, and no evidence of child sex trafficking. Carlos Bristol was tortured under her husband's orders. She knew there were no arrests, let alone convictions for the people to claim bust and arrest. They stated that Tim would go two or three weeks without bathing. They described the smell as "putrid". Tim "had crotch rot", that there were "blisters and sores in and around his crotch and thighs" that became infected". His drug use was "out of control". What drugs? "Ketamine, cocaine and painkillers" Same thing everyone else has been saying for years. They went on to say that Tim was "out of control", and that "he had violent outbursts and made threats to kill people". I asked whom he threated to kill, they said, "people he believes are his enemies, people at the Church, government and you know... others". Ultimately, this individual, said to me and tried to lay a guilt trip on me, "We're afraid, Tim will kill himself, maybe his family believing that he is saving them". Unbelievable. Absolutely ridiculous. Tim is trying to bully everyone including the LDS Church. Cinemark. HIs critics. Women sexually assaulted, raped and bullied. Notice how Ballard's inner circle is trying to guilt trip and shift the burden of responsibility of Tim Ballard's instability, he violent outbursts, chemical consumption, and behavior. The people in his orbit are forced to "play along" and live out his delusions. Then he is bully them and tormenting them. They are in fear, so much that they everyone to play along instead of doing the right thing. Tim needs to take a bath. He needs get off social media. He needs to go to rehab. He needs a mental health professional. If they feel they are in danger, call the police. Ultimately, Tim needs to take responsibility for his actions, his many crimes, children he has and lied to, behavior, betrayals and misconduct. Then he needs to answer questions about the two "OUR operatives" that had no experience, and were supposed to be working for OUR, who they thought was working with Haitian authorities. Both men were murdered. He needs to answer for Carlos Bristol, apologize for everything, the lies and smearing his name. Tim is finally realizing that the ruse is up, and he is desperately trying to gain relevance in today's world.

Last edited4:46 PM · Nov 7, 2025·3,132 Views

First of all, this isn't accurate at all. Let's assume it was, the responsibility doesn't fall on John Dehlin, that is the on the church. Ultimately, nothing illegal has happened. An excommunication from a church, even if leaked to the press and everyone before Tim, is perfectly legal. There are issues with separation of church and state and then, what is an excommunication? Regardless, there are plenty of sources everywhere. That said, you can tell if someone was excommunicated prior to getting a letter out anyway.

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Nov 6

Looks like John Dehlin might want to lawyer up.

5:20 PM · Nov 7, 2025·497 Views

Talk about delusional. First this nonsense about due process, people like Matt Cooper needs to take to take that Constitution test again. I know the LDS Church their beliefs and ideations have this idea that the United States is built on the LDS principles, but that's wishful thinking and poetic and all. The Constitution applies to people and the government. Due process is concept found in the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution, which says no one shall be "deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law" by the federal government. I remember firing people, and they said they had no do process. The LDS Church is not the federal government. Besides, the Church didn't deprive Tim Ballard of "life, liberty or property". We know why Tim is upset. That revenue stream and the grift was shutdown. The days of ripping off Mormons and sexually assaulting women under the ruse that he was given the okay by Elder Ballard and "God essentially" is over. Tim Ballard was excommunicated because he is a predator. He preyed on women and the LDS Church enough. I'm not a fan of the Church, however, to imply Tim Ballard is a victim is a bit too much. If the Church is guilty of ANYTHING it was they did not shut this OUR scam down day one. They need to be held accountable for giving Tim Ballard a platform and endorsement.

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Nov 6

Okay, going to bed for real. Matt Cooper claiming tonight he has recordings related to Tim Ballard’s excommunication that he’s going to drop soon. You can’t say it’s boring.

5:39 PM · Nov 7, 2025·1,004 Views

The pattern is unmistakable. There is a reason why Tim Ballard failed to become a CIA officer or Intelligence Analyst There is a reason why Tim Ballard is no longer with the Department of Homeland Security. There is a reason why Tim Ballard and his non-profit Operation Underground Railroad and their partnership with the Elizabeth Smart Foundation was terminated, moments before it began. There is a reason why Tim Ballard and his non-profit Operation Underground Railroad was disavowed by Utah ICAC. There is a reason why Tim Ballard and OUR's donations to Washington State Patrol was refused. There is a reason why Tim Ballard and his non-profit Operation Underground Railroad had their partnership with DoTerra terminated. There is a reason why Tim Ballard was excommunicated from the LDS Church. There is a reason why Tim Ballard was removed from Operation Underground Railroad, his own non-profit. When every institution that once embraced you turns away, it’s not persecution — it’s recognition.

9:30 PM · Nov 7, 2025·687 Views

Let me preface this by saying, I believe your intentions are good. You want to expose injustice, to stand with the wounded, to bring truth to light. Look, Tim's victims that have been sexually violated, bullied, harassed, those have been scammed, robbed and taken advantage of, wasn't looking to hash out a conversation in this thread. Tim has a platform. Now you have said previously, a long time ago. You stand with victims. You never mingle or attempt to mingle perpetrators and victims or their fan clubs, this isn't a football game. The way you’re presenting it makes Tim Ballard look like a victim, and you’re amplifying his lies. Do you really want that attachment? You’re better than this. You’ve earned the trust of survivors, and advocates , I know some of them and you have followed who believe in you. They follow you because you represent reason in a swamp of opportunists. But they are now watching, hurt and bewildered, as you elevate the words of predator, a man whose life’s work has been deception using children as a shield and justification to violate women and rob people blind. Then we he is exposed, he claims you're hurting the children. Tim is the worst kind of predator. Amplifying his message is the equivalent of a grade school music teacher, having the children sing R. Kelly and P. Diddy. Amplifying his message is like playing pornography on your vehicle's TV with the volume at full blast while cruising through grade school parking lots. Then inviting them to hash it out? They don't want that. Your anger toward the LDS Church has become a lens through which everything bends. In your zeal to wound the institution, you’ve mistaken the raving of a discredited man for revelation. You must course-correct. Quickly. Victims of this man are watching, and they are alarmed. So am I. Fact-finding does not mean publishing every unvetted claim as gospel. Ballard’s statements are misrepresentations, fantasies, and deliberate lies. Every single one collapses under scrutiny. When does the line get drawn? Ballard is not a whistleblower. He is a fraud, a manipulator, and a predator. To grant him martyrdom is to insult his victims twice, first by his hand, and now by your keyboard. When a victim entrusts you with their trauma, that story is not your weapon. It is a sacred trust. To wield it against your personal enemies is to betray them. Ballard’s persecution complex is not truth, it’s the last refuge of a con man cornered by his own deceit. The Church once protected him, but that does not absolve him. Excommunication does not make him a saint. To turn him into a victim now, merely because he can no longer exploit the faithful, is to invert morality itself. There are people still bleeding from what this man has done. Don’t hand him the knife again. A man’s own words often damn him more effectively than any critic. Ballard has been rejected by every institution that embraced him the CIA, Homeland Security, the LDS Church, and his own creation, Operation Underground Railroad. This is not persecution. It is consequence. Ballard is a broken, dangerous opportunist who feeds on faith and fear. He preys on the devout and the naïve, not to save children, but to save himself from irrelevance. Before amplifying his delusions, demand proof. His claims collapse under scrutiny; using them to indict the LDS Church would be like using John Wayne Gacy’s word to measure Ted Bundy’s morality. As per a conversation with a close associate of Ballard I had last night. Ballard's latest obsession with “Satanic Ritual Abuse” is commerce, not conviction. He is currently shifting his religion and politics to pander to the Evangelical MAGA and southern audiences. Then a MAGA Civil War broke out. Now Tim had to delay it for several days and if you watch his social media he kept waiting when he said he would release his message "tomorrow", he was hoping to see who came out on top. Right now, he is testing which flavor of hysteria Zionist or anti-Zionist fills his coffers. He doesn’t care about victims. He cares about revenue. He is a salesman of moral panic. If you mistake his delusion for revelation, you will become an unwitting accomplice in his fraud. You are better than this. Your followers and the victims who trust you deserve better. They need advocates and support, people who listen and care. The victims have suffered enough. Don’t make them watch as the man who exploited them becomes your ammunition.

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Also... I saw @BreeRighter commenting on my posts today. Last night, @MikeBorys liked something I posted. Their voices, and the voices of Tim's victims (like Celeste, who won an evidentiary hearing granting her a Protective Order) and alleged victims, are welcome here. Okay,

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3:46 PM · Nov 8, 2025·731 Views

Take note: it takes Tim Ballard five seconds to spew a mountain of nonsense, and an hour to debunk it. Stop amplifying his lies. They are all lies. This includes SRA, Kevin McCarthy, and the so-called “Sound of Freedom Act.” All of it is bullshit. This is all well documented and public record. Perhaps it’s time to hold Tim Ballard’s feet to the fire and demand proof before repeating his delusions. His credibility is destroyed. He is an unreliable witness. Taking anything he says at face value risks your own credibility. When dealing with victims of abuse, remember: perception is reality. Using Ballard’s statements as if they were gospel is not only reckless, it’s dangerous. The very quotes and screenshots you are citing are verifiably false. No wonder the LDS Church disregards Ballard’s letters. If any of his claims were true, he could provide documentation. But he prefers you to take him at his word, counting on the incompetence of most of his supporters. Take the “Sound of Freedom Act” nonsense as an example. Not long ago, Tim Ballard learned that Alabama passed "The Sound of Freedom Act", which he had nothing to do with and disavowed by its author. Recently, he discussed it on a podcast and, as usual, took credit for it, however, he did not mention SRA or expose any trafficking network. SRA only recently entered his vocabulary to appeal to MAGA evangelical audiences. Let’s get the basics straight (this whole section is factually incorrect, as Tim Ballard wasn’t talking about the Alabama legislation):

1) Tim Ballard did not hold a public hearing before Congress with Kevin McCarthy in 2023. He testified before two subcommittees on border security.

2) He did not mention SRA once; his testimony is publicly available via the House website and CSPAN.

3) There was no bill associated with his visit.

The “Sound of Freedom Act” he now claims credit for emerged in 2024, drafted by Alabama State Representative Donna Givens, not Ballard. It made no mention of SRA. The reality: Kevin McCarthy was not present. Ballard was invited by Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ), chair of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee, to testify on “Children Are Not for Sale: Global Efforts to Address Child Trafficking” on September 14, 2023—two weeks to the day after women publicly accused Ballard of sexual abuse. Ballard’s appearance was politically timed: the GOP was waging a public campaign against DHS Secretary Mayorkas, and Ballard was gearing up to announce a Senate run to replace Mitt Romney. He pressured Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes to introduce him to Republicans, lobbyists, AIPAC, and the Heritage Foundation. He may have a platform with the Heritage Foundation, but there is no verified relationship with AIPAC. The “Sound of Freedom Act” itself was inspired by the movie, authored and sponsored by Alabama State Representative Donna Givens, and signed into law in April 2024 by Governor Kay Ivey. Ballard had nothing to do with it. He was neither the inspiration nor present when the legislation passed. In short: Ballard perjured himself repeatedly before Congress, his testimony had nothing to do with a trafficking bill, and the “Sound of Freedom Act” is entirely separate from him. All claims tying him to SRA or legislative influence are fabrication. Stop amplifying his lies. Check the records. Demand proof. Ballard is not a credible source. Treating him as one is dangerous for victims, for truth, and for your own integrity. Right now, serious people, do not take Tim Ballard seriously. He is a whack job and a serial predator. Fact, children were sexually abused under his watch. When Ballard learned of this, one of the sexually abused orphans was pregnant. She was raped by a staff member at Foyer de Sion, an orphanage owned by Guesno Mardy and operated and funded by OUR. They took her to get an abortion. Ballard personally sent one of his most trusted associates, Jeff Frazier to "clean up the mess". Ballard feared scandal. Frazier arrived, there are 100 kids, in an orphanage designed to hold 40 kids. There is no running water. They are using 5 gallon buckets to use the bathroom. Let me paint the picture for you. 100 kids, defecating and pissing in 5 gallon buckets. At an orphanage funded and operated by Tim Ballard. OUR had $100 million in cash reserves. LIQUID CASH. They called over $40 million dollars in donations that year. Foyer de Sion was OUR's public facing child care front. You think they had aftercare anywhere else? Tim Ballard and Jeff Frazier won't name the pedophiles, they hired that raped impregnated a child. They refused. Tim Ballard is not a "good guy". He is not a "victim". He is dangerous. He is a predator.

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Here's something I want to talk about: In his letter to LDS Church Authorities, dated March 24th, 2025 Tim talks about the Sound of Freedom Act, and claims that one of the purposes of the Act was to expose satanic ritual abuse in Utah. Does anybody know if the text of the 2023

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5:51 PM · Nov 8, 2025·1,526 Views

Alright in just a couple minutes people have asked for clarification on the Statement from President Ballard on Tim Ballard. The DENOUNCEMENT of Tim Ballard to Vice and subsequent reporters, including conservative commentator Glenn Beck the man who made Tim Ballard and OUR what it is. I'm getting clarification one more time just in case.... "The DENOUCEMENT was a directive from the President of the LDS Church to church communications" Or Officially known as (I'm not going to write out the LDS Church names and offices in full everytime) ÞOfficially the Office of the Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles M. Russell Ballard. That comes from both official LDS Church Communications and insiders. Unless there is evidence otherwise, then there is no merit to claim it was not, other than those who "are not ready to accept it". Provo could get hit by a nuclear weapon, every network screaming about it, mushroom cloud visible from space, and the second Tim Ballard posts a video going “I can’t believe a nuke hit Provo,” I’m like: “Oh great. Now it’s probably fake.” His credibility is that toxic, the moment he affirms something, the universe and reality itself becomes unreliable. I've seen plenty of people produce their Excommunication Letter. Why won't Tim show his? He has had two years to doctor one. Problem with creating a bogus letter? Well the real one might surface. He continues to "claim" it says something but he doesn't show it. Moving forward, claims by Tim Ballard need to substantiated first, then speculate and ask questions.

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5:45 PM · Nov 22, 2025·2,167 Views

One thing I want to make clear, because in context this is not being stated correctly and I don't think people understand the size and scope of this. Everyone keeps saying "The Vice Statement from the LDS Church" and implying this may have been a rogue actor. Dozens of times? It wasn't just Vice. SLC Tribune, Fox 13 Adam Herbets, NBC, ABC, CBS, KSL (and all the other local stations) Lynn Packer, myself, CNN, Mother Jones, Glenn Beck.... They are not reporting the Vice report and taking it and parroting it. Each and every single news media entity, myself included, got confirmation of the Church's denouncement of Tim Ballard. So a rogue operator managed to confirm and comment of DOZENS of media outlets, local news, newspapers, blogs, those meanies and anti-Mormons "Damion Moore and Lynn Packer", this went on for like two weeks and LDS Church communications kept referring to the statement to Vice. This blows the bad actor theory out of the water. Do you guys think Elder Ballard and tbe Quorum is swimming in their money like Scrooge McDuck all day and allowing LDS Church communications to go wild for weeks here? Really? Vice cornered them and they had no choice. I, will take it one step further. LDS Church may have reached out to get the message out. Maybe. Not to Vice. But after. I just read an "official email" and who was in that string when inquiries were being made and confirmation began. So the Timeline and everything around "The Vice Report" is misrepresented. Yes, Vice, just as Lynn Packer and I were all independently trying to corner the LDS Church on the Ballard issue. Again, the issue was not his Excommunication. It was the funding. It was the protection. The access he had to money, major donors. The allegations BEFORE the brave women today. At the time, I was working a major story involving and Guesno Mardy and Tim Ballard. The grace of a mother and her child. LDS Families who opt to protect their children from their own kind. Because as I was told, they "know how it works and what they are Could be tonight. Tomorrow. Next month. Next year. Maybe ten years from now. Hell hath no fury. Mr. Ballard what was the name of your company? Slave Stealers. The fucking irony. Not even hiding it. You're not implying you steal "Black Babies"? Tim Ballard did you abuse a child, force a child to make allegations against a homosexual pervent (I agree a bad man, and to do a story would be in bad taste), in Ecuador? Did your organization (at the time) attempt to bribe, both the family and the abused children (abused by Ballard amd his people)? Did you show a bust in Equador regarding a disgusting activist from the Netherlands in your "hit" film "Hidden War"? Do we have statements from attorney? From the child, I'll call Shorty. You ever talk to Shorty? Other than beating tables and using a steel baton on pressure points? Just asking questions......

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7:28 PM · Nov 22, 2025·1,069 Views

Justin, Who exactly has “bullied, threatened, or intimidated” you? I’ve watched the same public exchanges you have, and unless I missed a memo, no one directly involved in this case has done a single thing that qualifies as bullying or intimidation. Not one. And I say that with genuine curiosity, not sarcasm. If there were threats, show them. Bring them into the light. Because the Borys' and the wokenni, Righter, Lynch, Davis, and the rest—do not strike me as the type to slink around issuing shadow-warnings. Their attorneys even less so. What you’re describing sounds far more like a familiar phenomenon among current and former LDS members: the reflex to interpret even mild disagreement, skepticism, or fact-checking as something sinister. There’s a reason ex-Mormons jokingly call it “LDS Syndrome.” A simple question becomes an attack. A contradiction becomes persecution. And heaven forbid you bring up well-known historical or doctrinal errors—suddenly you’re not discussing facts; you’re threatening someone’s eternal family. Pointing out that the Book of Mormon quotes Joseph Smith’s 1611 King James Bible—errors and all—isn’t an assault on anyone’s soul. But to certain ears, it might as well be an excommunication order signed by Satan himself. Enter the melodrama: “Not my marriage! Not the children!” One almost expects organ music in the background. So let me ask plainly: who threatened you? Because I have actual cease-and-desists. I have documented threats. I’ve been approached by law enforcement about my safety and others’ safety because of Ballard and his orbit. Did YOU get any of that? Did the FBI contact you? Local PD? Kirton McConkie? Adam Becker? Some Ballard-adjacent goon squad? If so—show it. If not, then let’s not pretend wounded-hero theatrics are evidence. And since this is the second time you’ve floated that Ballard “may be suing you” or “is preparing something,” let me ask, who told you that? Because that is not a rumor you casually toss around for dramatic effect. It’s a claim that requires specificity. Here’s my concern, Justin: I think you accidentally made yourself the story. That is the cardinal sin of journalism and investigative work. You don’t become part of the narrative. You don’t become a character in the drama. You don’t turn the lens on yourself. You claim to be telling "two sides" to the story, so you're a "talk show"? Advocate or journalist, I'm confused as to your role? When you make claims and state things, what is you process to ensure quality control and maintain accuracy? What is your system. My mission statement on ACJ states explicitly what the process is to maintain a high bar and eliminate mistakes as "best as possible". Make no mistake, that is a system that is taught at universities. If a claim is made, are you vetting and corroborating? Witness statements? Not vibes. Not sides. Not whatever emotional gust happens to be blowing through Twitter on a Tuesday. Facts. As a journalist my commitment is to the public, not to anyone’s personal crusade or vendetta. That is how journalism works. Or at least how it’s supposed to work. You, on the other hand, seem to have one foot in the story and one foot in your own reflection, and that is a dangerous place to stand. A journalist must maintain quality control. Every comment you make is permanent. Every assertion carries consequences. If you’re wrong, the internet will not forget. Ask people who’ve begged me to “run a story” and pull a fast one. I spent an hour with each, and it crumbles. They both decided very quickly they didn’t want that level of scrutiny. I'm not a hired-gun journalist. I don’t settle scores. I don’t launder agendas. So again. If someone truly threatened or intimidated you, name them. Either you supply names and evidence or retract your libelous claims. If not, then stop turning skepticism into martyrdom. This case already has enough victims. We don’t need another one invented for the sake of theatrics.

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I’d like to say something about this. This Tim Ballard situation is insane. I have never been involved in a situation where both sides are so desperate to control the narrative, and are so resistant to all the information being presented. I post something Tim puts out, and his x.com/ldsabuse/statu…

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12:20 AM · Nov 24, 2025·2,039 Views

The most common question I am asked usually by Utah men, often by members of the LDS faith is how I “reconcile” or explain Celeste Borys’ allegations against Tim Ballard. Some go further, suggesting she and Ballard were simply having an affair. Others ask whether I “see the problems” in her statements, or whether I truly believe her. Let me be clear: yes, I believe Celeste. Those issues you have? It is typical. And her experience is not unusual, it is typical for victims of sexual assault. From the moment I watched Celeste speak at the press conference, I recognized a pattern I have seen many times before. Still, we conducted a full investigation. We reviewed every piece of evidence, testimony, data, and corroborating material available to us. Only then did Lynn Packer join the legal team as a consultant, and only then did I step in as an advocate. I do not publicly support victims unless the evidence gives me absolute confidence. People ask, “How could a woman continue contact with the man who harmed her?” This question shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how sexual assault actually works. Once I went legit from the life around 2003/2004, and I retired still alive and not in prison. I still had two trials to go through and won. Before I ever wrote a word at ACJ, I had already spent years working on wrongful-conviction cases and with a legal nonprofit serving low-income families, women, and vulnerable communities. I also experienced firsthand what it means to be falsely accused and thrown into one of the worst juvenile institutions in the country, a facility now facing waves of lawsuits for the abuses committed there since the 1970s. I have seen what violence, coercion, fear, and survival truly look like. In 2024, all the lawsuits truth and internal that was secret. They remain to the PEACE Center. disgusting. No, it is Illinois Department of Corrections (IDOC) and an institution called Illinois Youth Center (IYC) St. Charles. IYC St. Charles. So, save the "bleeding heart liberal" accusations for someone else. You have not seen nothing until you seen a heterosexual male out turned on pure manipulation or fear alone. When guys asks for new pants about three sizes too small, and they use a pencil for eyeliner, the whole time they are in there, they are a woman. They are used to settle debts, the guards would purchased them and all sorts of things. I could never look at those guys the same outside. When you see a heterosexual man get turned into a woman for survival, they never said no, resisted or gave consent. They just started calling a man(older kid) Daddy. This is called getting "turned out". I was 13, and never prepared for seeing it. You're in jail, there is rape and stuff, but it scares you. You know, when Jessie Watters and Tucker Carlson started calling Trump "Daddy", I had flashbacks. I did. Cause I know of one type man does that. See my organization had a ban on homosexual behavior. It was a death penalty, of a horrific kind. Nothing against gays, we did business with them. Had friends. Members could not. It was viewed as a weakness, and extortion is the foundation of criminal organizations. This was to restore honor and then some. That background matters here, because it dismantles the naive belief that victims behave in ways outsiders consider “logical.” Violence is a language. A universal one. Before human beings had written words, we understood force, dominance, and intimidation. And when someone has power over you physical, emotional, spiritual, institutional you don’t simply “walk away.” Victims often remain in contact with their abusers out of fear, shock, shame, confusion, or because they believe they are somehow responsible. Utah struggles with this understanding more than almost any state. Why Utah doesn’t recognize what happened to Celeste Utah is dominated by a purity culture that defines a woman’s worth by her sexual “cleanliness.” It is a patriarchal environment in which many women are conditioned to protect the men who harmed them. Advocates in Utah, LDS and non-LDS alike have told me repeatedly that most Utah men do not understand what sexual assault legally or practically is. The statistics reflect this: Utah ranks #2 in sex offenses. Utah ranks #1 in unreported sexual offenses. Women in Utah consistently express distrust of police, church leadership, and even their own partners when it comes to reporting assault. In the six years of our investigation into Ballard and OUR, the most common message we have received has been from Utah women who were sexually assaulted or abused but never reported it. They are afraid of not being believed, They're afraid of being blamed. They're afraid of their family’s reaction, or of the consequences their husbands, fathers, or partners might face if they tell the truth. And this is why Celeste is targeted? Every man who tries to defend Tim Ballard, usually behind an alias, goes after Celeste first. She is the linchpin. If they can discredit her, they believe they can discredit everyone. But her behavior is exactly what professionals recognize as the most common pattern of victims: Victims may not immediately label what happened as “rape.” Victims may not resist or fight because they fear escalation. Victims often blame themselves. Victims frequently continue contact, hoping to normalize or make sense of what happened. Victims may defend their abuser because they know him socially, religiously, or professionally. Victims minimize their trauma to protect their abuser’s family. These are not exceptions they are the rule. Then we have a former LDS man say the courts decide "truth"? Call me "un-American"? Justin's legal misunderstanding, and I to make this clear, if you want me to take your bullshit seriously from now on, you need use your real name and spend some time on what you write, maybe investigate first, then write your bullshit? Back to Justin.... hopefully he wasn't turned out Justin, who once left the LDS Church but now defends Ballard with a fervor, stood on a public platform and insisted it was “un-American” to believe Ballard is guilty before a trial. He repeatedly invoked “innocent until proven guilty” as though it were a blanket prohibition on public judgement. What he didn’t understand is that this principle is 1,000 years older than the United States, rooted in Roman law and the Magna Carta. And more importantly, the doctrine is: “Innocent until proven guilty... IN A COURT OF LAW.” It is a restriction on government power, not human thought or public speech. The courts are not arbiters of truth, they are arbiters of punishment. If court rulings were the sole definition of truth, the First Amendment would have no purpose. It always feels like I have to educate people on the very thing they are trying to act as if they are standing on solid ground. Spend three or four years in hellhole and then tell me about the constitution. What is next? Bringing in the Bible? Claiming divine prophecy? So how do I reconcile Celeste’s story? With one word: education and experience. Utah’s culture is 20–30 years behind the rest of the country when it comes to understanding consent, sexual assault, domestic violence, and trauma. Many Utah men genuinely believe rape must involve physical violence, screaming, or torn clothing. They have no framework for understanding coercion, fear, psychological manipulation, or power imbalance. They believe a woman must fight. But they, themselves, would not fight. Women don’t disclose because they don’t trust the men around them to protect them, believe them, or react safely. And the behavior many have directed at Celeste proves their fear is justified. Final point This defense that "the women fell in love with Tim" You have never had a woman's heart if you believe that shit. Also, she was in love? Where I am from, we call this "Dirty Mackin". It is when a person tries to sabotage another man, a husband or boyfriend in order to get into her panties. Where I am from, if you want a woman, you get her on your own merits. Look if she is married and whatever, nobody knows her situation behind closed doors, or what she wants to do. But, for you to desperately have to lie, and try to sabotage it talking down on another is violation civilians on up. How desperate and pathetic. I would never trash another man to get a woman, that would get you beat down. Dirty Mackin. Plus Tim is married and she is married, now it is worse, because you're Dirty Mackin to a girlfriend, then got a friend involved? If you're taking his wife? You have to bad mouth him? Really? When I was kid, you got a beatdown for this. It's wrong. How desperate and pathetic. See, women don't like that. No wonder your success is so low, you try to get with a woman, by dragging a man down? If someone does not understand sexual assault, they should say nothing. Ignorance is acceptable, malice is not. Attacking victims because you don’t understand their behavior only reveals your own lack of experience, empathy, and education. I will continue supporting these women and educating the public. I cannot pretend any longer that Utah’s cultural attitudes are not part of the problem.

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Justin, a few days you had a self-important meltdown and put on a performance, stating that Tim Ballard's accusers were "losing their minds" and that you were "threatened, intimidated and bullied", and I still do not know where a victim threatened, intimidated or bullied you. Also, just to be clear you are not perpetuating that I was threatening or trying to intimidate you? You continue to act as if Tim Ballard's side has not been told, or is being suppressed. You claimed someone or something was "controlling the flow information", but nothing else has been made available. Again and again you state "both sides of the stories need to be told", yet, you're rehashing old material that has been publicly been available for years. At the time, Tim Ballard was on network TV, podcasts as he is having a meltdown on Fox13 claiming that the Vice article was a lie. That was proven true. You're not trying to invent impressive propaganda of your own are you? Just for clarification, Justin are you saying that Tim Ballard has not been able to tell his side of the story? So the victims, that you call "his accusers" have had full control of the narrative and they have been platformed and their voices amplified, yet Ballard's has been supressed? Also you're contradicting yourself. You rehash a number of statements and claim nobody is telling Ballard's side, but you are using the main stream media and Utah media as sources. Really? You're pumping out claims from 2 or 3 years ago. Tim Ballard had unlimited access to the media. In fact, Lynn Packer and I, were only ones that actually gave anyone a platform, including the victims of Tim Ballard. I asked at least three times, what did the church do to Tim, that was abuse? You stated "innocent before proven guilty" is a bedrock American principle. You actually invoke your patriotism. Said that it is un-American to say Ballard is guilty. Was this directed at me and his victims? You said the courts decide facts and the truth. So is that your interpretation? What you're doing Justin, is not defending the Constitution, you're weaponing it in an attempt to silence critics of Tim Ballard. You're attempting to paint yourself as a patriot and have exposed yourself and what you're trying to do. The Founders never intended "innocent until proven guilty" to be a shield for powerful men or a gag order on citizens, journalists and victims. I find it disgraceful and in poor taste to attempt to martyr yourself and Tim Ballard while using patriotism and the Constitution as sword and shield to attack the victims of sexual assault and shield Tim Ballard, after everything and then call him a victim. Let's make one thing clear. The "presumption of innocence" it is not an American principle, but was considered common law at the time. The practice was from Roman Law, well over 1,000 years ago. Next, it is "innocent until proven guilty... IN A COURT OF LAW". Both the Founders and Supreme Court of the United States have made it clear. The "presumption of innocence" is simply a courtroom standard that determines guilt and punishment, which now gives the government power over one's liberty and rights to impose punishment and fines. Including taking one's freedom or life. The Supreme Court has made it clear, the courts do not settle truth. Invoking the Constitution to intimidate and silence dissent through patriotic theatrics is un-American in practice and philosophy. The First Amendment is the foundation in which this country was built on. It is there before all others because Free Speech gives victims a right to speak out about their experiences and the Free Press can educate the public & hold Tim Ballard, the LDS Church and the government accountable. Courts and judges included. You're not trying to perpetuate that you and/or Ballard have been falsely accused by the government and been stripped of your rights and freedoms by the government? Have you been incarcerated and dehumanized?

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I’d like to say something about this. This Tim Ballard situation is insane. I have never been involved in a situation where both sides are so desperate to control the narrative, and are so resistant to all the information being presented. I post something Tim puts out, and his x.com/ldsabuse/statu…

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4:31 PM · Dec 1, 2025 from Las Vegas, NV·981 Views

I don't think you know how many people you have helped. Women, girls, young and in so many ways. Perspectives have changed, and this has put a wedge in grift. You'll never know how much this helped me. Personally. Had I not thought I was doing something important, had purpose, I was lost. Domestic violence counselors in Utah, said it opened many eyes. The human trafficking has changed. Dramatically. People and celebrities, advocacy, has opened and changed direction. Right now, True Crime and Tim Ballard have done damage to this country. Perception of crime, and human trafficking has derailed trials. Sociologists and criminologists have talked about it. People think human trafficking and sexual assaults are typically violent acts. I always thought it was known that sexual assault was a very personal and emotional, confusing time for girls and women. Growing up girls around us, friends and family it was always friend or something and they deeply cared for the individual. I guess this is not understood by many. The bravery you guys have displayed, you've empowered women and educated men. True crime and human trafficking need people that will educate. You have saved lives, in more ways than one. I learned this the other day. Tim Tebow did an interview with Shawn Ryan, I think it was six months ago. By exposing Ballard, other men in the sphere and orbits that Tim Ballard had influenced, and Tim Tebow had educated himself and others. He educated Shawn Ryan that day, and some men struggling with it. I cannot tell you how many men have come to the site because they sought more information. That comes back to you. Thank you for what you've done. The grace and dignity you have shown. I know some of you have been in dark place to, you've not shown weakness. The one thing that I know, that nobody has seen, is how good of people you are. Tim had people that really cared for him, so much so, even after he violated many of you, how much wanted help him. Mike has shown incredible restraint and put family and first, instead of worrying about what other people think or lashing out and trying ease his pain. Young men need to see that. The fact that Tim has the audacity to say, all these women fell in love with and now they want to put him in prison. Tim Ballard was so desperate, and such a little punk, he went to a woman, not only did have to try and belittle Mike Borys, but call him "an international assassin" and bring in his goon, Radd Berrett. That is desperation that is just low. Girls would shame boys for doing that when I was kid. My cousin Heather really this guy, she was 16 or 17 years-old and I was 14, he tried tell something about this other guy that wasn't around, and she started making fun of him. My cousin that's my age and Heather, and we beat his ass and that's disrespectful. The fact men have given pass for this, because that proves that Ballard saw a hurdle to consent. If you are trying to get with a married or woman with a boyfriend, whether you are trying to get her in bed or the bar, if she tells you she can't because she has a husband or boyfriend, and then you start bad mouthing him? Tim literally went full stop, international assassin and murderer and then friend involved, is this a Utah thing? You guys start telling girls, BS? "He's got herpes!" We not talking about issues. If you are some religious man who is out here pretending Mr. LDS, you do not marriages? Tim is married, hitting on a married, who reminds him she is married. If is supposed to be friend you care for, why would you put her in that position? Is this acceptable LDS world? This explains why some men are single and have a problem with women. I've spoke and met with Mile Borys. I have never heard anyone say anything negative about Mike. He supported and trusted his wife, and something she wanted to do. There are men that are very jealous. Celeste tells Tim, just how supportive her husband is. International assassin? I've never heard boy go there. If met Mike, you know that is not who he is. Now, for Celeste that probably knew Tim desperate piece of shit. If a woman tried to get with me, and tells me my wife was a international assassin? Sorry babe, you gotta go. That is desperation, and unless something has changed that's not attractive that nasty, that tells me this is person that will do whatever it takes to get what they want. These little issues are all over the place, and there is a true lack of education. For example. People say, "well Tim Loaded up the messages". Maybe he did, but in court they don't accept just what is on your phone. There is subpoena to phone and if they can't get the message outright, the text is logged, date and time.

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As always Damion, beautifully and thoughtfully stated.

8:39 PM · Dec 1, 2025·521 Views

Excuse me? We certainly can tell who you traded a few messages with. Justin a private message nearly a week ago, replying to your message and now you’re attempting to frame that as harassment? A message that asked you to reconsider your dishonest approach?. Nothing more. Your attempt to manufacture a narrative of victimhood is transparent and dishonest. What's next? You rescued my family from a fire and saved 2,000 children? If you intend to claim bullying or intimidation, then present the messages. Let the record stand. You and I both know they contain nothing that supports your performance. You get played by Ballard for a few minutes and now you're on here playing victim. I treated you as a friend and extended help in good faith. I gave you proper guidance, as you were misled down a rabbit hole, prevented you from getting pulled into a lawsuit and financial ruin. Right now, you'd have permanent Civil No Stalking Order had I not. You repaid that by misrepresenting me publicly twice now and by admitting to methods that are, by your own words, unethical. At this point, your conduct raises questions beyond ethics and I don't want my work or character to be attached to this charade and game you're playing. It ultimately shows you have poor judgment. You want a specific outcome so badly that anything supporting your belief becomes “evidence,” and anything disproving it is dismissed. That isn’t investigation, it’s confirmation bias dressed up as conviction. That is how witch hunts happen. That is how innocent men end up in prison. A detective decides on a suspect first, builds a case around that assumption, and then blames “conspiracies” or “sabotage” for anything that contradicts the theory. A real investigation is the opposite: you gather all the facts, all the evidence, interview witnesses, obtain background information, consult experts, and educate yourself on the subject matter. You build alliances, develop reliable sources, and maintain a network grounded in integrity. You have none of that. You are operating far beyond your depth, and you’ve already admitted your ethics and strategy are compromised. The only reason you see Tim Ballard as legitimate is because he manipulated you. He told you exactly what you wanted to hear, and you accepted it without scrutiny. That makes you a victim, but unlike the others, you have no excuse. You walked into it with an agenda and you're in over your head. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me Tim Ballard is under a Sexual Violence No-Contact Order. If you have attempted to contact Celeste or Mike Borys on his behalf, you may have legally exposed yourself. Your misuse of private correspondence, your distortion of facts, and your attempt to insert yourself into a case you have not investigated demonstrate the same pattern: you lack the credibility you claim to possess. Your comments about the LDS Church reveal not insight, but confusion. You speak of “structures” and “sources” you do not have. The people with real access such as Lynn Packer and I, do not rely on speculation, nor do I need to embellish my involvement. You're certainly not trying to claim that you have better access and sources in, through and around the LDS Church than Lynn Packer? Who would win if you and I had to contact the highest ranking individual in the LDS Church that is in our phones? You believe you have better sources than Lynn Packer? You don't think I've cultivated sources in the LDS church and have access to materials, financials and records? The information you claim to be looking for, I have. I told you and you don't like the answer. Don't forget who your friends are in the future. Certainly don't stab them in the back for what you think are short term pay offs. The importance of information, sources and resources is the key to success. And now, you have aligned yourself with a man whose defining traits are deception and exploitation and sexual assault. That decision alone dissolves any remaining claim you had to sound judgment. You abandoned your values and forfeited the public trust for a narrative that cannot withstand elementary scrutiny. You contributed no investigation, no evidence, and no verification. You attempted to compensate for the absence of substance by casting me in a false light. It didn’t work. It only revealed the gap between who you claim to be and what your actions actually show. Reality is what it is, not what you want it to be. You do not possess the integrity, discipline, or rigor required for this work. Justin, I've done all I can to help you. This conversation, and any association, ends here. Good luck to you sir!

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I'm not sure why @DDLMoore continues to send me private messages and create walls of text full of false claims, logical fallacies, and half-baked civics lessons, but my life could hardly get any weirder, so why not this, too? Here are the questions Damion asked me, in just this x.com/DDLMoore/statu…

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2:17 AM · Dec 2, 2025·440 Views

Never underestimate the power of denial.... First, I want to thank those of you who pleaded your case and the fine gentlemen, "the clergy" on Friday night, who tried to make a case. Look, I always internalize what everyone says and I take it into account. I never felt this was my "issue", it seems that nobody will do it. So it is my "issue" in essence. Utah journalists can't accurately report certain things. I've seen the internal policies and internal memos. Letters sent. Corporations. Then we have Kirton McConkie, the LDS Church's legal arm. I have seen their work, inside and out. Look what happened to Lynn Packer? Not once did he ever complain, about his life being destroyed as warned. He didn't say to me, "I was like the Walter Cronkite of Utah". He never once trashed the LDS Church about it. He won't lie about it, he's not disillusioned. For you defenders of the faith, no. I believe you. I am not going change a damn thing. If Lynn Packer couldn't, I sure the hell can't. That doesn't mean I don't deal with it properly and tell the truth. There needs to be change, and it starts with reviewing, discussing and dissecting this very case in every aspect, honestly and with care. Examining the overall culture and reality these people live in. No, I won't change the world or Utah. But maybe I spark the mind that can? Ultimately, when people look back 100 years from now, that was a loss for Utah and the people of Utah, Yeah, it upended his life, destroyed his career, but it proves exactly what Utah is in denial about. We are dealing with this monster again. Previously, I made it clear my position on the Ballard case. As far as Lynn Packer and I are concerned, we accomplished what we had set out to do. We not only met those expectations, they were exceeded them. Ballard's excommunication protects the vast majority of the LDS faithful overall. Lynn Packer then began working as a legal consultant for the women's legal team. I shifted to advocacy, consultation on the subject overall, this current expectation or argument that I'm stepping outside of my role or violating ethics, is dishonest and an attempt to contain the real issues and truth regarding Tim Ballard, the LDS Church and Utah Culture. I want to prepare everyone for the shift in discussion and momentum. Friday night, I had a third meeting with a number of LDS clergy for a Q & A/discussion and review, the first meeting was before the LDS Church denounced Tim Ballard. That meeting was three years ago. December 2, 2022. It says it was a Friday in my notes. Now those of you who have put the idea forward, "well Tim is having a breakdown", that is definitely not the case. The focus on Thom Harrison and concern, is right when you don't have the full picture, but were almost there. So close, yet so far. It is right where everyone should have followed and reviewed the material Lynn Packer and I highlighted a few times. Finally, Lynn Packer makes a video, the title picture is Glenn Beck, Tim Ballard and Elder Ballard on YouTube and ACJ. Not one person has ever brought this front and center. It is missed, almost by everyone! I'm sure people will say, "I knew that". Except, a lone Stake President contacted me at the end of 2022, then this is now a serious LDS issue, "for clergy". Then comes that meeting. They were curious what I knew about the one thing, that explains things clearly. The story goes from this point, forward. This is when somebody in the LDS Church was "just asking questions". That said. Exactly what they exploited and prepared for the day it comes to light. The sun and risen and it is a sunny day here. Just like everyday. Back then, I refused to discuss, review and dissect this subject, because the very population Lynn Packer and I wanted to protect and prevent from becoming victims, are culturally conditioned to shutdown in response to what is a perceived threat to them. It is time to confront reality and not just dismiss it as a threat. Other than Jehovah's Witnesses, I've never seen such a automatic shutdown. Other faiths require an actual challenge to your testament. This isn't a test of faith or doctrine, this is truly impacts lives and is dangerous. To LDS members, “anti-Mormon” means anyone, typically non-Utah journalist, investigators, ex-member, or even victims of fraud and sexual abuse, whose information challenges their testimony or threatens the image of the Church, regardless of intent or factual accuracy. Anything I address moving forward is grounded in my investigation, research, materials, expert consultations, field experience, and analytical background. I’m no longer constrained by the reporting limits I once followed when LDS beliefs or theology were involved. My foundation has always been crime and organized crime, both in practice and in formal education. My engagement with LDS culture didn’t come from curiosity or apologetics; it emerged because these beliefs and cultural dynamics became central to understanding Ballard, his network, his victims, and the mechanics of the scheme. What happened here would not occur anywhere else in the United States. The culture itself is part of the structure. The investigation began when Jon Lines surfaced in the Karlie Gusé case and ultimately led to the exposure of Ballard’s anti-trafficking operation, which, structurally, mirrors organized crime schemes. That connection was obvious immediately. While the theology is not the primary focus of my work, Ballard’s beliefs and “values” are essential to understanding the present situation. Several journalists outside of Utah have told me this should have been a focus of Utah media years ago. Not as an attack on faith, but as necessary context. Had it been reported in 2011 or 2020, much of this might have been prevented. It must be acknowledged that journalism in Utah exists under unique pressures. The LDS Church exerts disproportionate influence over newsrooms, public institutions, and social norms. Many journalists in the state, whether consciously or not, operate within boundaries shaped by that influence. In that environment, critical reporting on religiously adjacent subjects is often softened, reframed, or avoided. The reality is that about 95% of Americans have no clear understanding of LDS beliefs or worldview, if they did, I suspect there would be a major problem. These questions keep resurfacing. Most of the inquiries I receive now involve: Our early reporting on Tim Ballard, and Ballard’s associations with figures like Thom Harrison. Lynn Packer reported on the blessing Tim Ballard received, some wished that we explored this in depth. In reality, we provided you a path to get all the answers you needed. In six years, only one person has ever uncovered the reality of this situation, and this becomes a major issue regarding doctrine and Ballard's endorsement by Elder Ballard. It is important to note, that the LDS Church has taken the position that both Glenn Back and Elder Ballard were deceived. That said the primary catalyst and main component of Ballard's excommunication has not been made publicly available or even so much as publicly questioned. His fallout with the LDS Church, and why they denounced him and excommunicated him. There is a lot of misrepresentations and confusion in regards to Ballard's denouncement, and his excommunication. These are two very separate actions by the church done strategically and for a very specific reason alone. Next is whether the Church bears responsibility, for what and to whom? Many people want clarification about Ballard’s beliefs, his early associations, and especially the role of Thom Harrison. I assumed this was widely known. After speaking with Lynn Packer about Ballard’s recent behavior, we agreed, this pattern was predictable, including the SRA pivot. I’ll address that shortly. Remember when Lynn Packer and I would point out his move we'd call it, "the Ballard pivot? Yes, I believe Lynn Packer, two or three other people and I actually spoke about Ballard going "full Satanic Panic" in 2020. See, this is a progression. No... it was " a revelation". There is also confusion about claims that Ballard converted to Catholicism or became “born again.” Some took this seriously despite it originating mostly as speculation and jokes. I will clarify that as well. Ballard was removed from a speaking conference over some of his claims. Many are asking what actually happened with his removal from LDS membership. The narratives circulating, whether about psychics, sexual misconduct, “morally unacceptable” acts, or an abrupt disciplinary action, often blend separate issues into one story. There is very little accurate, because nobody did the one thing they needed to. My investigation and reports concluded long ago. In order to have an honest and productive conversation regarding Tim Ballard, then there must be an analysis of how Utah’s insularity, its hierarchical deference, its patriarchal structures, and its deep seated fear of dissent created ideal conditions for a figure like Tim Ballard to thrive unchecked. It is an acknowledgment that Utah, as a culture, the LDS Church's unchecked power and influence, remains decades behind national standards in understanding sexual violence, victim dynamics, coercive control, and institutional accountability. As I stated before, the fraud that Tim Ballard committed and did it for years, would never work in any other state. What state would have no issue with their elected Attorney General, playing commando and James Bond in foreign countries for weeks without a single verifiable result? In 2009, the Governor of South Carolina left the state for six days to visit his mistress, it didn't end well. South Carolina of all places. Sadly, the moment you touch on the subject, LDS members immediately shutdown and believe you are 'anti-Mormon'. In LDS culture, being called ‘anti-Mormon’ usually means you’ve raised facts or questions that someone is not emotionally or culturally prepared to confront, it’s a defensive label meant to silence scrutiny, as they have been spiritually advised to believe that critique, facts or analysis regarding the LDS Church is an attempt to separate them from God. Which is why an investigative journalist whose focus and target is the victims and potential victims, who knows the most likely victim of Operation Underground Railroad and Tim Ballard's fraud, deception and abuse, must avoid one of the biggest issues that has allowed him to prosper. With my reports finished and his LDS excommunication, that guardrail is not in place by default. This is not an indictment of individual Latter-day Saints. You all are great people, I've made many friends, who were patient and some of us went through the motions, and many of you have put a lot of faith and confidence in me. It is a recognition of the structural realities that allowed Ballard to be elevated as a hero, shielded from scrutiny, even a damn fact check, and defended long after serious concerns emerged. The public deserves a full accounting of these cultural failures. Victims deserve honesty about the systems that failed them. And the community deserves a clear-eyed examination of how and why this happened, free from the restraints that were necessary during the investigative phase but no longer appropriate now. It's to review all matters and subjects.

4:02 PM · Dec 8, 2025·686 Views

What are you his fucking boyfriend or something? Going to defend him on @thenuancehoe ? He turned you out! I just warned people about this think. You should have watched the video by the Alabama Department of Corrections. Look what a desperate clout move, and it is embarrassing. Have you no shame or dignity? Like the ego you have and at least Tim robbed people of $250 million, he can't even get on conservative media now. Okay, I'm gonna throw him a bone and just toy with him, he has the smarts not to debate me. He's not smart, but he's not that dumb. A man who is debating another man. Are you sending your brother to "beat me up too?" Here's is the thing. Tim will send your ass off, like a send off boy, to embarrass yourself, and he hides like a coward as always. The information gap is too much, especially when I'm dropping more shit on it. I haven't even wrote articles on him in a long time, because it is dead. I couldn't sell an article on him. You have credible knowledge on the subject. Second, you don't anything to raise an argument. You want Ryan and Carah to be the vehicle for you to spew Tim's SRA shit? If Tim wants to do it, tell him to be a man, and do it. And you're a send off boy to do debates. I don't go on podcasts to discuss bigfoot, not a good look for someone that is serious. Have him publicly name you as a spokesman. He won't. Have him publicly name you as spokesman. I know this game. You're using me as clout, to even get on a Ballard focused show, to essentially parrot Ballard claims, that is already available for dissection? Next, you gave away the game to me, that means I'm taking part in running a scheme or pulling a fast one. That's the main issue. I respect @thenuancehoe and Ryan, look if they want me on, they would ask. If want to be on, I would ask. I don't need some BS scheme to get on podcasts. Here is something you don't know know, I investigate and write for three podcasts (two have Ambies), and then every now and then freelance in other spaces. Here's something that will blow your mind, I teach several modules in the affects of True Crime on Society, in a Sociology classes at a University and now a high school. I say all of it, because I want you understand, I'm not like trying break into the Tim Ballard controversy. See, here we go. I could have had you on a national podcast about your SRA shit, maybe fast, because they love that shit, yes you would have been destroyed and embarrassed, these are informed people. Again, had you your ego not really tripped you up, again, know who your friends are. Anyway, the whole SRA thing, I had done that since I was 11 years-old. When I did advocacy for wrongfully convicted, like SRA was the gimmick lazy ass prosecutors used in the bible to get convictions. Some even admit it. "Yeah they were religious, so we knew their fears". A man who has never had the backing of law enforcement, actually over 30 law enforcement refused donations, a city council using my article blocks getting their PD from getting involved with donations from them, not a single advocacy group, the two closest like legitimate groups break away from him, can you name those two? I mean since you want you to fight for his honor. Then Utah Attorney General's office own ICAC office, pulled their support for OUR when Sean Reyes was office. Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Human Trafficking Task Force calls him out in 2020. They are the most technologically advanced PD/SO (they are both). . Guesno Mardy won't speak to this man anymore? You do something and find your own work, investigate and like uncover it and then advertise yourself on merit. Really Justin? You're reduce to being a mouthpiece for a man who will not even say you're his voice. At least let him make you spokesman. Like are you fanboy now? I don't know. Have you even talked to him?

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Here’s an idea: Since we’re all talking now, why don’t @thenuancehoe and Ryan Fisher invite me and @DDLMoore on to their show to discuss all this @TimBallard stuff? We’ll just hash all this out in a live, or something. That would be interesting, don’t you think? I’m sure we

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7:50 AM · Dec 9, 2025·585 Views

This was interesting period, and obviously I interviewed Carlos Rodriguez and did talk with Joanne and Bruce for a long time, I mean they got all of the WSP emails for years it was crazy. Yes, they received money from OUR. This right here is the problem once there is any type of wrongdoing or deception. It just puts question marks on everything. Nobody listens.

theappeal.orgTim Ballard’s Reputation is in Shambles. The Americans He Helped Arrest Want Answers.

After Ballard’s fall, the people he helped arrest in Washington want to know why no one seems willing to take a second look at their cases.

9:04 PM · Dec 9, 2025·242 Views

Let's get your opinions, Why was Tim Ballard ultimately excommunicated? When did Tim start showing signs of this "breakdown" everyone is talking about? That's if he is. Did Tim engage in a "flagrant extramarital affair" at OUR? What does the Thom Harrison "blessing" mean?

11:30 PM · Dec 9, 2025·1,183 Views

The story attached is very much LDS Culture mindset. When I talk people, when I say there is a mindset, I almost would say a lot is a collective, you have to really change your personal view, everything curves. There is this "success is very much a part of how devout you really are to God". Typical sales tactic, which is what? MLMs do the same thing. They will say, "If you want to be rich and successful, then you have to project yourself as rich and successful". Remember one rule in the LDS Church. You do not question authority, and most don't definitely challenge it. In their culture though, it is a different language interpretation. If you have genuine curiosity, and you're "just asking questions" that's not very nice. I've had them say certain questions I had were "aggressive", or "abrupt" and you'd think it is like menacingly, but it is way to disarm you and get you to back off. LDS folks will step in and say "it's not true", and to them it is not. It is part of their DNA, it is built into them. Here is the deal, right now a LDS member in good standing, will not walk in with another non-LDS member ask questions I give them. That's a whole other issue. I won't get deep into it right now, but this is a Tim Ballard tactic. So when people ask, "how did he claim he rescued 5,000 children without substantial proof?". Well, it was never required and not even like appropriate to ask in Utah, even for a journalist. Every rescued person he's even named, was a stolen story. What? Are telling me you don't have a success story? Not one? In two days, he's got the Liliana story, age, location, country she's 12, 10, 14.. South America, Latin America... ". In two days gets her age wrong a total at least four times. He doesn't care, he's operating on pure bullshit 24/7. He's lying to the fucking president, president's daughter, testifying bullshit before congress and doesn't care. No respect. Then these idiots, they wonder why it's hard to take them serious. Yes, either you're a troll or in the cult. (oops, I should a cult, Tim should we talk about little group, devotees and what do they call you?) They say stupid shit like, "Tim has his faults, but the women...(they are women guys c'mon! like is this Muslim women need three witnesses to one man?)" But Tim's family has a few good stories. “You guys,” he said, addressing students directly, ”You need to work hard. It will cover up almost all your weaknesses. If you ever go to bed depressed or sad, guess what? You probably haven’t worked hard enough. … If other people don’t think you’re awesome, that’s probably because you haven’t worked hard enough. In summation, if you want to start fixing yourself, the easiest way to do so is to get out and do something.”

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Lot's of goods guesses, a few people got close. Let's go back to 2012, and meet Tim Ballard, who is an author and "historian", I use historian very loosely. Before he is our 'LDS archetype hero' rescuing pseudo-children for OUR. Tim Ballard is peddling his book The Covenant and he is speaking to fellow LDS conservative commentator Glenn Beck. Notice they do not get into LDS speak, but much of the story is basically secularized pseudo-LDS history. Actually, and technically this book could cause an issue with the LDS Church. This book starts a series, just called The Covenant series. According to Ballard, he wrote The Covenant because M. Russell Ballard had told him to [paraphrasing]"take out the LDS material to share the good news with everyone" LDS material out a the "true book" Ballard supposedly wrote, The American Covenant which is supposed to be LDS pseudo-history. Ballard says he toured with Elder Ballard for the book, but it appears it was just a vacation visiting LDS and American sites. Ballard says a number of controversial things that Elder Ballard allegedly said, but when Elder Ballard is on camera and interviewed, he never exactly mentions The American Covenant. That said, the LDS Church's business arm bookstores features and sells The American Covenant Now Tim Ballard has said that the book is "published" by the LDS Church's business arm. The is false. It is published by a small mom & pop publisher called Digital Legend Press & Publishing, and is described as "a dynamic new publishing company that has distinguished itself as the 'Fastest-growing new LDS Publisher' When Tim Ballard is excommunicated his books are removed from Deseret Books bookshelves and his name and any article mentioning him is removed Official LDS websites and unofficial affiliates. But what was The American Covenant really about, I mean Tim Ballard certainly wouldn't pull another fast scam on the LDS people? Well according to the book's own cover, Ballard's ten years of research on this masterpiece will forever change the way you view this nation's history. Oh I can only imagine. Come on people. you think Tim Ballard sat down researched and thought up bullshit on his own? No. He simply ripped off what is known as Skousenite Mormon ultra-conservatism and John Birch conspiracy nationalism Well Ballard did add one small twist what one internal LDS document states, Timothy Ballard’s self-appointed prophetic narrative. According to a General Authority, “The so-called ‘American covenant’ presented in that book is not a teaching of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is a repackaged political ideology that blends fragments of Latter-day Saint language with ideas drawn from Cleon Skousen, Christian nationalism, and American exceptionalist folklore. It takes symbols from our faith, removes them from their theological context, and uses them to construct a narrative about America that the Church has never taught, never endorsed, and does not recognize as doctrine.” “At its core, this ideology is not about the Restoration, the gospel of Jesus Christ, or the covenants we make with God. It is about elevating the United States to a religious status it does not occupy in our theology, and assigning to political history a prophetic significance that belongs only to the House of Israel and the work of salvation. It substitutes patriotism for priesthood, nationalism for revelation, and personal ambition for divine authority.” “The ‘American covenant’ is essentially a political myth framed in spiritual language. It claims revelation where none has been given, assumes authority no member has been granted, and presents speculative ideas as divine truth. It creates confusion by implying that God has made promises to a country rather than to His covenant people. In doing so, it undermines the doctrines of the Restoration and leads members away from the Lord’s established pattern of revelation through His prophets.” I'd like to officially introduce to you all, "covenant warrior" and Prophet Timothy B. Ballard! Who Are the “Chosen” People in The American Covenant? According to the "Prophet" he was told by God, personally (over a fucking crack pipe) The “chosen” people are not the House of Israel (which is LDS doctrine) and not the Latter-day Saints (very fucking obviously in mainstream LDS teaching). Instead, Ballard frames the Lord's “chosen” people as: Patriotic Americans who accept and defend the divine mission of the United States. I'm saved! The prophet has spoke! Next we'll go over the Ballard family meeting he called less than two years prior.

youtube.com"The Covenant" Tim Ballard on GBTV w/ Glenn Beck

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12:35 AM · Dec 11, 2025·4,123 Views

Unfortunately, that's not factually possible. Really? Tim Ballard told his lawyer that? Going up to the high court? Wow, that attorney was lying his ass off before the court. Well, every attorney representing Ballard is lying before the court. That's why Alessandra Serrano resigned, because we cornered her and she was likely going to be disbarred and likely would put her teaching job at stake, simply for the fact that she prosecuted the actual case that Ballard used for over a decade to promote OUR and defraud the public (mostly Mormons). I have no love for Angel Studios, I mean they discussed the Ballard "issues" internally, and released the movie anyway. Unfortunately, they were four years removed from this grenade. Which is why she left after we hit her with the transcripts of the Buchanan case. Remember, the OUR internal investigation was conducted by an outside firm, not Serrano. The whole narrative for four years, was that "Hollywood didn't want the film released, they were shaking in fear". It sat on the shelf at 20th Century Fox Studios for over four years. The film was made and shelved. Murdoch sold 20th Century Fox Studios to Disney and still sat on the shelf, suddenly Dennis Rice (who I was just contacted by), Juan O'Savin and all these grifters held multiple fundraising events to buy the rights, with Ballard pocketing it. I think $4 million total. They made millions using this "left wing media is in fear of this movie being released" scam. Angel Studios then finally bought the film rights after the film had been completed amd on the shelf for nearly 5 years, and then Ballard got exposed nationwide. Just as I told him six years ago. This comes out, people outside of Utah actually look into these spectacular "true stories". It was ACJ's biggest day, biggest "several" days, month and year. Lynn Packer and I detailed just how this typical LDS Mormon Archetype Hero came to be. The first writer and then Glenn Beck. Oh, yeah and Tim Ballard, all at a home.

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Impressive how in Wednesday’s hearing Ballard’s lawyer tried to wash his hands, claiming he didn’t produce or write anything. Now they’re pushing all the blame onto Angel Studios. So who sold the story as ‘real’ all these years?@DDLMoore @AdamHerbets @ldsabuse @thenuancehoe x.com/astarievening/…

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We will now examine a series of claims and themes drawn from The American Covenant, alongside the fracture within the Ballard family that followed Tim Ballard’s increasing embrace of Skousenite ideology. On how those ideas were adapted, intensified, and reassembled into a personalized form of LDS-adjacent fundamentalism? One in which Ballard cast himself in a quasi-prophetic role and framed his mission as the defense and restoration of a national covenant. Thom Harrison blessed and accepted him as "a prophet" and "the savior (of America)" or as Ballard claims "covenant warrior", Harrison becoming the de facto "LDS John the Baptist" and Ballard opening his sanctuary. Now perhaps some current and/or former LDS folks could clarify if this is in line with current LDS doctrine, and how only a single Stake President was the one to find this and raise the issue to the point that a HQ level investigation was launched in late 2022. @thenuancehoe Is this what was taught in the LDS Church in 2011/2012, to your knowledge? In numerous interviews: “The covenant that once belonged to ancient Israel has been transferred to America. We are the covenant people now.” (-Tim Ballard author The American Covenant, interviews and book tour statements) We witness Ballard’s Own Self-Appointed Prophetic Narrative. The most dangerous layer is Ballard’s personal mythmaking. Ballard repositions himself as someone: Raised up for a divine national mission. Chosen to restore a lost covenant. Receiving insights about America’s destiny. Acting in a revelatory role parallel to Church prophets. This is the classic self-anointed prophetic identity. In his book The American Covenant, Tim Ballard repeatedly describes the United States as possessing a “covenant with God,” portraying America as a divinely chosen nation with a sacred destiny. Using language such as “restoring the covenant” and “divinely appointed destiny,” Ballard frames American history as a spiritual mission rather than a political development. LDS scholars note that this theology does not reflect official Church doctrine, which teaches that divine covenants belong to the House of Israel, not to modern nation-states.

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Perfect example of the small benefits a journalism class (or dictionary if classes are too expensive) and basic journalism law, if not a core competency issue, meaning that this individual did poorly in grade school English. Truth be told, I believe the real problem here is that Justin deeply and desperately wants this very subject be true for a couple reasons, that's just not important now. Post after post, he pretty much hits the nail on its proverbial head, maybe a little too much reading between the lines, but for the most part he demonstrates he "gets it". So this is not a "core competency" problem or lack of understanding. Comprehensions, seems to work fine. So let's look into shall we? Justin has what some call a "momentary lapse of reason". "I'm not sure what Packer means by stating that they are uncorroborated. Maybe he'll explain it sometime. It's very much like the allegations against Tim Ballard - there are multiple victims telling similar stories... they just happen to be sisters, and much of the corroboration has to do with other victims of David Hamblin, etc." This is probably the fundamental, single most important factor in what journalists should or should not report. Even professional tabloids make this distinction to avoid legal liability. "Uncorroborated" is very distinct word with a very specific meaning, however, I think most people should understand this, but majority don't as they have proven time and time again. In journalism or law, a claim remains uncorroborated until additional independent evidence supports or validates it. Otherwise it is just a claim, and both legally and journalistically, is usually not suitable for any type of action or advancement (publication and such). Next, the statement "it's very much like the allegations against Tim Ballard". Absolutely not. I'm afraid anyone who "interprets" it as "very much like", either is ignorant, incompetent or being deliberately dishonest. They are not the same. Not even in the same ballpark. It's inconceivable to me, that an educated person (3rd grade) would come to that conclusion. This is further evidence, that Justin is intentionally dishonest with this issue. I refuse to believe moving forward that people just don't understand basic fucking language. It is an adjective that substantially changes the meaning of the noun, "statements". Unless he can explain how he just doesn't know the difference between corroborated and uncorroborated. Legally, a person with no legal training or education should know exactly what the big difference is. Just how incredulous is Justin's claim? Independent corroboration means that aside from the victims or contaminated source, there is evidence that corroborates the claim itself. Hotel records. Ballard's own emails. Cell phone records. Ballard's own admissions that he was with them. These are independent verifiable facts that corroborate the women's claims. The SRA claims are not corroborated by independent evidence, hence as Lynn Packer stated in the video they are "uncorroborated". They are just the claims themselves. Statistically speaking. A corroborated claim has a high probability of being true (over 90% in just investigations alone). An uncorroborated claim may still be true, but its probative value is low until there is evidence that supports it. Juries trust corroborated claims. Studies show that corroborated claims are 4 times more likely to be factual and complete. Uncorroborated claims usually have significant problems, and statically speaking are most likely to be untrue vs corroborated claims. . False convictions almost always contain uncorroborated testimony. Is it because it is a lie or is it missing significant information? Typically both. Usually a victim who is making a truthful uncorroborated claim, is often omitting details because they know there are problems with their statement already. In investigative and legal contexts, a corroborated claim is substantially more likely to be assessed as true, while an uncorroborated claim remains unverified and carries dramatically lower evidentiary weight. It would be a logical fallacy even in a debate to assert or make a claim as substantive, without corroboration. It would be irrational to even hold the two in the same regard. They are not the same factually. I'm not sure in today's world, how allegedly competent people, even just warm bodies, could confuse the two. They are not the same thing by definition in just language, nor are the same thing by material fact. There is nothing but Bowen's victim's "claims" in and of themselves. They are uncorroborated. There is nothing independently that supports any alleged Satanic involvement. Worse, there are significant problems with the claims themselves. They are contradicted by established facts. They are contradicted by the victims and the victim's later recant. In private there is the admission of fabricating it for other reasons. Tim Ballard has fabricated everything. When a grown man, a former law enforcement officer steals the story an actual sex trafficking victim, claims to rescue her when she rescued herself, multiple times in two days. Gets all her identifying details wrong four or five times, to the President of the United States. The President's daughter. Lies under oath to congress. Does this, solely rip off his own people. Not only that, but his organization actually fabricates a digital card that "Lilliana" supposedly designed, it looks like like 5 or 6 year-old child man it. She was a grown woman at this point. Literally, only a sociopathic rapist, misogynist or a former or current member of the LDS Church, would equate a typo in a statement by a woman, to this man's level of pure intentional dishonesty, exploiting a trafficking victim, to defraud people in order to profit. This is on par with pedophilia. In prison, if you used children to defraud people, you would get stabbed. To criminals, this is a horrible person. In LDS culture, it's like "well, he has penis". This is the reason why the Salt Lake City District Attorney's Office explicitly made it clear, "It does not mean that we disbelieve or diminish a survivor’s account, but rather that the law requires evidence strong enough to remove every reasonable doubt for a jury." Out of all U.S. jurisdictions, only a handful of District or State’s Attorneys have ever publicly cleared, or publicly accused, specific individuals in serious criminal cases outside of court proceedings. In fact, I am aware of only two such instances. The first is the JonBenét Ramsey case. In 2008, Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy issued a public letter stating that John and Patsy Ramsey were cleared, citing new DNA analysis. That letter was written before the public learned that, in 1999, a Boulder County grand jury had in fact signed a true bill of indictment against both parents on charges related to child abuse and hindering prosecution in the murder of their daughter. The district attorney at the time, Alex Hunter, chose not to file those charges. It is important to understand that a public declaration of “clearing” does not preclude future prosecution, nor does it negate the existence of prior grand jury findings. The second case is one in which I was personally sued for defamation and successfully defended myself. I publicly identified Michael McGovern as the person responsible for the death of his wife, Karen McGovern. Both Illinois State Police Special Agent Chris Novotney and the LaSalle County State’s Attorney publicly stated that Michael McGovern murdered her. That said, despite the fact that these statements were matters of record, the foundation of my work has always been documentary evidence, corroboration, direct sources, and rigorous verification, not speculation or narrative convenience. His lawsuit failed not because he couldn't prove his innocence and malice on my part, which was the basic legal requirement, but because I could prove that my belief in his guilt is based entirely on facts, education, reason, base knowledge on a variety of subjects, and an actual attempt to eliminate McGovern as a suspect. Majority of true crime base their belief in guilt over the "dislike" of a common prime suspect. Anyone can build a case against a person using bad acts and/or character flaws as proof. Even worse, the misapplication of evidence and its subjective interpretation. The problem in Utah is, the LDS Church and current and former members are horribly misogynist, to a fault. I can only assume that this is a cultural problem, and there is no shortage of examples in the culture. For instance, the LDS Church and members (much like Muslims multiple male witnesses are virtually considered "proof"), the religion almost hinges entirely on the "The Three Witnesses". "The Three Witnesses of the Book of Mormon" were Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, and Martin Harris, who testified that an angel showed them the golden plates and engravings, and they heard the voice of God confirm the record's truthfulness. Really? So then Ballard's record is confirmed. Another instance, "Axiom" aka you know who, previously stated, "Ballard has his faults, but I suspect these woman are bad actors". The entire basis for his theory rests entirely on the fact that they are women. Ballard and his proven lies are simply faults. The women must be lying because, reasons? Who has a documented history of lying under oath in this matter, Tim Ballard or the women? The record is clear: Ballard has been shown to provide false and misleading statements under oath, repeatedly. Now let’s move away from rhetoric and look at what the research actually shows. Can anyone identify a single documented case in which two women, unknown to each other, independently accused the same man of sexual assault, reported those allegations to law enforcement, and were later both proven to have fabricated the claims? Such cases are effectively nonexistent. Yet misogynists, and particularly those influenced by fundamentalist religious worldviews, often speak as if this is common, as though most men routinely accumulate multiple false sexual assault accusations over the course of their lives. That belief is not grounded in reality or evidence. Statistically, even one sexual assault allegation against a man is rare. More importantly, research consistently shows that in the overwhelming majority of sexual assault cases, sexual contact did in fact occur. That point matters here because Ballard denies that any sexual contact took place at all. From a probabilistic standpoint alone, the claim that two separate women independently fabricated allegations involving no sexual contact whatsoever stretches credibility to the breaking point. Ballard attempts to sidestep the issue of consent by asserting that “nothing happened.” But that assertion does not resolve the problem; it simply reframes it. Two independent allegations, reported to police, alleging sexual misconduct that never occurred at all would be statistically extraordinary, approaching lottery-level odds. It would be analogous to two unrelated groups separately accusing the same person of two different murders that never happened. So who, in such situations, is more likely to provide false or inaccurate accounts under oath or in official statements: ordinary citizens, or a law enforcement officer with training, experience, and institutional incentives to control narratives? Decades of wrongful-conviction research provide a clear answer. The majority of proven false convictions in sexual assault cases are linked not to women fabricating claims, but to law enforcement misconduct, including coercive interviewing, confirmation bias, and manipulation of evidence. This brings us to the question of why false sexual assault allegations occur at all. Ballard claims the women “fell in love” with him. That explanation is not supported by the research. Across more than a dozen studies on false sexual assault allegations, romantic rejection does not emerge as a meaningful factor. The most common reason, accounting for well over two-thirds of false reports, is to conceal or deflect responsibility for the accuser’s own wrongdoing. That pattern holds across false allegations generally, not just in sexual assault cases. Here, that explanation fails entirely. There is no underlying misconduct by the women that these allegations would serve to conceal. That fact alone significantly undermines the claim that these accusations are false. What this points to instead is something more troubling: evidence of premeditation and manipulation of consent. As a former law enforcement officer, Ballard understood how consent is evaluated, how witnesses perceive behavior, and how ambiguity can be exploited. The use of the so-called “couple’s ruse”, encouraging or engaging in public displays of affection under the guise of operational necessity, functions to deliberately blur boundaries. It creates confusion about consent, normalizes inappropriate contact, and provides a pretext to later argue that any physical interaction was mutual or merely performative. That is not an accident. It is a strategy. And when viewed through the lens of established research on sexual assault dynamics, consent, and coercive control, it is deeply concerning. There is no comparison to SRA, not even close. The closet thing to SRA are alien abduction claims. Following Roswell and pretty much yellow journalism, they literally print that a UFO crashed in Roswell, but here is the stupidity. This is what exposes the human touch and arrogance. It's a science fiction troupe, that alien spacecraft is nuclear powered and shaped like a metallic disc or "flying saucer". So, yes there are aliens, but they do fly in metallic discs just as we said they would. Right there is the exposure. Human beings are so fucking arrogant, that the mentality is, "yes the fucking aliens figured out intergalactic space travel, faster than light speed which is not even possible, but we knew they'd do it in a disc". You know it is BS, because of the "self-importance" of it all. The last thing the human race needs, is some intergalactic recon mission that makes first contact with a couple of Nevadans or maybe a couple of Florida men. I find it laughable that SRA, especially in Utah is being resurrected. The Evangelists who bought it hook line and sinker, who packaged it and sold it and marketed it to you in the 1980s. Here is the tragedy of it all. You have real victims of sex abuse, which you have pastors trying desperately to get the children to inject SRA into their story to protect members of the church. A girl is sexually, one of many by one the deacons. This is when SRA is huge. The parents instead of taking their child to a real therapist, counselor or doctor, no they go to the Minister for spiritual counseling (the real priority for the parents is her virginity), she talks about the actual abuse. Over the course of a few months, he plies her with alcohol then claims she was sexually abused by "demon boys" and that Satan "clouded" her memory with the man that actually abused her, to the point where she admits she is confused. So what does he do? Now he brings the police in. This poor girl is now telling a story to the police, where she is admittedly confused, and she talks about demons and Satan. When she comes forward later, she is the "crazy girl" (actually what the detectives call her) First, Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) is a blanket term. It has no established doctrine, no consistent belief system, and no standardized rituals. There is no dogma As a result, virtually anything can be labeled “Satanic” or “ritualistic,” which makes the term inherently vague and easily abused. That lack of definition is itself a red flag. It's no different than when law enforcement agencies and parental groups started publicly claiming that Starter jackets and Air Jordans is evidence that your child is likely in a gang. They still peddle shit like this. Which is the very reason why, I work as a gang expert for defense attorneys. I've heard more urban legends and bullshit coming officers in "gang units". Right now, this piece of shit on The Shawn Ryan show, supposedly a "legendary" gang unit officer starts peddling bullshit on The Shawn Ryan Show. He claims that the "NBA"(he means black) sells green Chicago Bulls jerseys solely because they are marketing them to the Sex. Money. Murder. Blood's set in New York. Bloods wear predominately, but the Sex, Money, Murder Set wears green, so they do wear St. Patrick's Day Chicago Bulls jersey. This is to celebrate St. Patrick's Day, because Chicago has a massive Irish community. St. Patrick's Day is a major holiday in the Chicagoland area. Casmir Pulaski Day is a State Holiday in Illinois, no school or work. That's because Chicago has one of the largest Polish communities. The Green Chicago Bulls jersey existed before the Blood set existed. He failed to mention that the NHL, Chicago Blackhawks did it BEFORE the Chicago Bulls. The guy is trying to imply that the Chicago Bulls organization and NBA are marketing "to black people" a green jersey because they want to be affiliated with "Sex. Money Murder. Bloods". All that BS aside, despite all the BS propaganda that blue states are soft on crime, Illinois actually has some of the harshest penalties in country when it comes to violence, gang and sex crimes. There is no parole, and all sentences have a mandatory minimum. They also have enhancements for validated gang members and associates. This this day, the state and about 40 municipalities, including Chicago, Aurora, Rockford, Joliet, etc... have what they call "gang lists". You can be a member, associate or affiliate. No court has compelled these cities or the state to explain the guidelines for these lists. What is the difference between an associate and an affiliate? Law enforcement continues to argue that it's a "tool for law enforcement". Yet, these same lists are used for sentencing enhancements for prosecutors argue are gang related crimes. Gang enhancements are often abused by prosecutors and are often reversed on appeal. Under the Illinois Streetgang Terrorism Omnibus Prevention Act, a gang enhancement can add 10 to 15 years to a sentence for most felony offenses. Crimes that typically carry 1 to 3 years in prison, easily turn into 11 to 13 years in prison. Just two or three felony crimes that are 3 to 9 years in prison, can easily carry a mandatory 20 to 45 years in enhancements alone. Now, street gangs are real, and can easily be proven that they exist. There are documents, dogma, manifestos, rules and regulations, membership lists, official internal investigations, logistics and security wings and front organizations and the one thing criminal organizations cannot escape, financials records and wealth. Worse, we have current and former members who snitch and rat, etc. The problem is, SRA falls apart from the onset. 17 women Lynn Packer and/or interviewed 14 victim's stories self-destruct in two questions, that should have been asked immediately. 1) How did you know you were being victimized by Satanists? 2) How did you know this was a Satanic ritual? They are contaminated witnesses, repeating what they were told. What's the issue? We might have a real victim of sex abuse, an actual trauma that has contaminated with Christian dogma. When talking about the cult, rituals or Satanism, these alleged victims are now speaking as independent experts, not as victims. That becomes the nail in their story's coffin. At this point, you know they are storytelling not recalling, this is a common interrogation technique. When you listen to SRA victims, they seem to have all the answers and understanding about Satanic cults. They are high information and knowledgeable on the subject of Satanism and SRA, but when comes getting into the details of their story, they almost leave. Where is all this knowledge and understanding coming from? If I get shot while being robbed, I'm not going to tell the police, "well the poor guy, his electric was about to get shutoff..." This is what I find odd. Christian conservatives will complain about books and content available to young adults. Yet, they have no problem telling eight and nine year-old that a Satanic cult is seeking their virginity? The only thing about SRA victims that I find fascinating, they have the same energy and trajectory as CoCo Berthmann. A perfect example is Yeonmi Park from North Korea, they are professional victims. They are irrelevant details that are practically building the villain. If anyone is knowable about the actual subject of "Satanic Panic" you know the stories and the sourcing. SRA stories are practically using LaVeyian Satanism from the 1960s as the root source, as well as Michelle Remembers as the abuses. The victims may not have read them, but clearly someone in their information pipeline has. LaVey was clear that Satan is not a real supernatural being, but a "Christian" symbol. He repeatedly emphasized that Satan represents individualism, rebellion against religious authority, and human nature, not an actual entity to be worshiped. In The Satanic Bible, LaVey explains that Satan is a Hebrew metaphor, not a god. Satanism is atheistic. Rituals are psychological theater, not supernatural magic Belief in a literal devil is a Christian invention, not Satanic belief. Now we could nip in the bud, but my true concern with alleged SRA victims, is the fact that states have continually protected church interests' (all Christian denominations) and by extension child abusers, pastors who lack education and training in counseling can easily help frame a Satanic narrative to child who does not understand nor comprehend the abuses that have already occurred. When stripped down logically, SRA claims can only fall into four categories, or some combination of them: 1) A literal Satanic organization exists, modeled loosely on popular misunderstandings of LaVeyan Satanism, possessing supernatural powers and using magic. This claim collapses immediately, as LaVeyan Satanism is atheistic, symbolic, and explicitly rejects belief in supernatural power. 2) People who do not believe in a literal Satan use “Satanism” as a pretext to abuse others, particularly children. This scenario is nonsensical from a criminological standpoint. Sexual sadists do not need elaborate belief systems or theatrical rituals to commit abuse, and there is no evidence of organized, ideologically motivated groups operating this way. 3) Mass hysteria and psychological contamination, in which suggestive questioning, misinformation, recovered-memory therapy, and cultural fear produce shared narratives that feel real to participants but are not grounded in actual events. This explanation is extensively documented, historically replicated, and supported by decades of research. 4) Christians falsely framing abuse as “Satanic”, either to externalize responsibility, reinforce spiritual warfare narratives, or provoke fear that drives people toward religious authority. This has historical precedent and aligns with documented moral panics. Taken together, the evidence overwhelmingly supports the third explanation, mass hysteria amplified by cultural fear and misinformation, sometimes reinforced by elements of the fourth. There is no credible evidence supporting the existence of organized Satanic groups engaging in ritual abuse, and no form of real-world Satanism aligns with SRA narratives. If you take "SRA accounts" seriously, then you'd have to wonder the phenomenon does not reflect original scripture and modelled after a professional troll. Same with Marian apparitions and other so-called religious phenomenon. I just find it extremely odd that all these visions and claims, they are modeled and based on medieval concepts, paintings and designs. Are we to believe that the Virgin Mary is a white woman, sporting a Royal blue robe, gold crown and the finest linen from the clouds? I'm not even getting into criminal psychology, because there is no need for the occult. Then when get into victimology and processing, dysfunction and mental illness. Not every victim whether their allegations are substantiated or not is suitable to be put forward as the public face of a case or narrative. I find it deeply troubling when people present individuals who are clearly struggling, who are not effective communicators, or who are visibly unwell, and then place them in front of an audience or a camera. The reality is that this does not serve the truth, the public, or the victim it risks humiliating them and exploiting their vulnerability for narrative or strategic purposes.

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I'm not sure what Packer means by stating that they are uncorroborated. Maybe he'll explain it sometime. It's very much like the allegations against Tim Ballard - there are multiple victims telling similar stories... they just happen to be sisters, and much of the corroboration

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WTF?  Just when you think you're getting somewhere, and then he goes around with that debunked Pace memo (debunked in like 92) like it's the damn gold plates. Here is a guy, who claims everything the LDS Church says (that he don't like) is a damn lie. Now, Pace has a "memo" it is gospel. He think's SRA should go away, but he perpetuates it as real. So if it is happening, then lie? When you are mistaken, or when you get information and decide to look into it, when you realize you're wrong, just say, "I was wrong about this", or "I think I have a better idea of what is going on here". When you're wrong, don't try to reinvent the argument. It is insulting, not to me. Everyone is not that stupid. Have respect for them. "I've repeatedly and consistently stated that I believe the term Satanic Ritual Abuse needs to go away. I believe it is a term that, like "conspiracy theorist", was seeded into the popular culture as a means of discrediting victims of abuse, and it is a strategy that has worked spectacularly." and then he goes on to say: "All abuse is Satanic... using the word is redundant, and only hurts your chances of receiving justice. Don't give your abuser that arrow to put in their quiver" This goes to show, that all abuses SRA anyway to you, what the fuck are trying to say? Should we now call it, Luciferian Ritualistic Abuse? Fantastic claims, require fantastic evidence to take it credible. How about ruling out other issue, before taking it at face value. The problem is not calling it Satanic Ritual Abuse, it is believing it. If you see a light bouncing around in the sky, do immediately say, "those are aliens?" No. You don't know what it is. If a victim has a history of making false rape allegations, I don't press the story, even when there is supporting evidence. Why? Credibility issue and if she is telling the truth, she is not good for public exposure, she will be further victimized. The problem is, out of 17 interviews of some women who claim SRA, 14 of them folded when asked, "how did you know it was a Satanic ritual?" They fold. I have never had a victim group. Even the three bogus trafficking victims we exposed, this went on for months. What this tells me, is these women are telling people what they want to hear. They admit that. The other three in that group, had other serious issues that were pretty obvious. One of them has been featured on a couple podcasts, and is on the borderline of enter the fraud/grifter market. Won't go well when she does make the leap, her mother already turned over the documentation. What I find incredibly dishonest, is that you sat there (despite admitting otherwise) and dismissed and degraded a victim of Tim Ballard's, who has his semen on her skirt. By his own admission too. This isn't disputed and you take it as "problematic", but then this girl with a pretty suspect history and easily suspect, you broadcast as legit? What troubles me more, is when you have alleged victims, who probably need help, not encouragement but some type of professional help. To me, that's exploitation. What is the bar Justin Riggs sets for probable truth? I know, it's that damn pesky superpower of discernment right? For Justin to put his name on it, what is the bar? Unfortunately, that's not how the world works. It's just not black and white. Good and evil. Liberal or conservative, fire & brimstone and paradise. I mean if we are just to take the "Christian route" (I don't know if he is still LDS, I personally would not categorize LDS or Mormon as "Christian"), but just to keep it simple. The blood is shed and sins are forgiven. Guess what? I believe either 88 or 90% (not looking it up right now) of criminal convicts in the United States identify as Christian. Nearly 98% are of the Abrahamic faiths. Scripturally speaking, that would be incorrect anyway. Unfortunately, with all due to the Christians out there, really, taking the route doesn't help people. Majority of violent criminals (many I know personally), they have a "disorder". It is called, "Anti-Social Personality Disorder", even Dr. Phil (who never treated anyone, he worked in the legal profession as selecting jurors) misstated the the disorder. People often think Anti-Social means avoiding social circumstances. In reality, ASPD is a disorder in which those with it, use socialization to manipulate and use others for their own gain. Also, they can serve ties in many ways without remorse. SRA and ASPD are not compatible. Then sexual sadists and any form of narcissism, psychopathy and sociopathy automatically would be incompatible with SRA, because they have a God complex. The reason there is no compatibility, is because it is not needed. People with ASPD see themselves as righteous in their acts. Vast majority of criminal gangs, organizations and syndicates, cartels actually integrate Christianity into their "structure" and their philosophies. This is not due to their faith, but politics and public perception. Why criminal gangs do children's toy drives and anti-abuser clubs and things of that nature. It is a political tool. Even a gang called Satan's Disciples which is under the Folk Alliance, their organization is structured like a ministry, heavily using references to God and Jesus, with actual church requirements. Justin probably doesn't realize that people use "Satan" and "Lucifer" and get 666 tattoos for "shock value", not some blood oath to Satan. As someone who was heavily involved in the criminal world and still well connected, I can tell you factually any Satanic group that's involving themselves in crime is going to have some problems. I've personally witnesses a criminal organization begin the elimination of possible "satanic forces", under that ruse, it was just a power move. I appreciate when people try to simplify the good and evil elements, but I hate to inform you... Good people do bad things. Bad people do good things. Then all the grey area. Then who are we judge good and bad according to scripture? Best way to this. Leave Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy at home and examine the actual human conditions, such as mental illness, head injuries, possible abuses breeding abusers, things of that nature. What can be rehabilitated and what cannot. If it's just good and evil, again that is a blanket term? Technically speaking, could not any person be casted as evil person for wrongdoing, real or perceived? That is the problem with Justin. He lacks the education and understanding of topics that he is trying to address. Instead of just listening, taking in what he like at face value and casting out what he doesn't, or investigating it further looking for hard facts, he continues the charade. He lacks any integrity. That's biggest problem, and it will never go away, and no his audience already saw the problem and cut ties. Once the others know the damage that was done and for what, they'll be gone too (unless they too lack integrity) He used a bunch of victims in a strange attempt to seduce a serial rapist, in order to get information about SRA in the LDS Church. The very case he is zeroing in on (and has been) only has three sources of full and complete information. Gordon Bowen. Lynn Packer or I. Justin Riggs knows, it is no secret. So cozying up to Tim Ballard, isn't going to accomplish that mission, because he failed to comprehend the whole purpose of the Gordon Bowen episode in the Tim Ballard by Lynn Packer. The very reason it was part of series. Tim Ballard was friends with M. Russell Ballard. Gordon Bowen and M. Russell Ballard. Tim Ballard was told by multiple about Gordon Bowen and defended him. The point is (if it goes over your head), if Tim Ballard is so concerned about human trafficking and all this child abuse, he had access to the one person who might have all of Gordon Bowen's inner most secrets. Ballard did nothing. He was told by two people about the "Mormon Exorcisms" and a few other things. Here is the problem. Ballard and his buddies, cavort in the same fucking circles? Ballard did not care, and dismissed those individuals. Until November 2025, both he and Justin are using Lynn Packer and I's report of Bowen. Literally sourcing it, but going to other people using our material? How could I take someone serious that operates at such a level. This is the last I will say on this. Justin Riggs didn't like the truth. He wanted more and it is not there. Tim Ballard certainly doesn't have it. It was a "Mormon Exorcism", and that is substantiated by thousands of documents, (actual) victims, interviews, medical/psychiatric records, personal journals/diaries and communications. Years of courtroom drama and testimony under oath. Justin is cozying up to Ballard, to get closer to my work? or Lynn Packer's? That's what Ballard is using anyway. Justin knows that Ballard is trying to bully his way into the LDS Church and it won't work. Justin is mad at the Church, and using Ballard's victims for his own personal gain. This is a man preaching Christianity and shit here? As I said before, I don't want part of it, and I'm not going to support, facilitate, help draw viewers or even remotely appear like I'm part of that shit. Justin has had the opportunity to just not do it. He did it. He had the opportunity to correct himself. Maybe show some dignity and humility. The real disgrace here, is he knows exactly why these conversations are the way they are. First, treat me like the liar when the only deceiving people is him, but to use victims he said he believes and supports for further gain of a fruitless endeavor, that is irredeemable. Is that Christ-like? Where is the integrity in that? To literally throw up the term LDSAbuse to me in his post after this disgusting charade, I'm sorry, I just can't take it serious. This is about the right thing. I'll turn my head on a lot of things, victim manipulation or use and then act like everyone else is the asshole is all performative, it's sociopathic. Then citing scripture and calling evil Satan, I'm not the one putting some Christian performance, and you do-this is just too much. I couldn't look Justin in the eye after doing that to him even now, much less think that Bree, Kira, Mike and Celeste would ever have respect for me after that. I wouldn't if someone did it to me. It's not going away. So, the healing and making right can begin once you own it. Grey areas and bending rules is one thing, you can't do this. Keep rolling. Merry Christmas!

10:33 PM · Dec 21, 2025·791 Views

No Justin. Let's start with the facts. Are you intentionally being deceptive as we speak, by your own admission? That's all. No distractions, since you're avoiding the real issue. Are you intentionally being deceptive, yes or no? If deceptive is a hard word, then I mean lying.

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Damion with yet another wall of text. Let’s just focus on this: Damion, please provide corroborative evidence that I dismissed and degraded a victim of Tim Ballard's, who has his semen on her skirt (glad you remembered it was her skirt this time around). As far as I know, there x.com/ddlmoore/statu…

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8:39 AM · Dec 22, 2025·886 Views

Sorry Justin, you did not block me. Had you blocked me, I would not have seen or been notified of your little performance. Also, Justin is afraid to block me. He will respond, because he has not received permission from me to not respond. You will stop responding when I'm done speaking to you and I'm going to put the nail in your coffin doing it, because I think you are a horrible human being, on par with a sex offender. A serial abuser. That's because that's all you are. Today, you will block me, because I'm exposing and putting an end to your charade, because you are not worth my time. You're not worthy of the benefit of a doubt one second longer. You think victims of sexual assault are toys for you to play with, use and abuse for personal gain, then it is time to cash you out. The ruse is up, with proof attached, below. This has been about one thing and one thing alone this entire time. This has nothing to do with you giving Tim Ballard handjobs for bogus information. This has nothing to do with your false belief that the "church was wrong in excommunicating Tim". I don't care if you fellate Tim Ballard for breakfast because you think it cures cancer and you'll shit diamonds for lunch. You can lower yourself and be his little bitch and I don't give a rat's ass. That's your business and problem. Except you already know that, because you admitted such in your private messages to me. The issue goes right back to my first post about this, and subsequent posts since (including private messages). See Justin, I always brought it right back to the real issue at hand, and it wasn't until the very last post before this you realized I was making you expose yourself. This goes back to the fact that you decided to start attacking the victims of Tim Ballard and questioning their stories in public, not because you actually didn't believe them, but because by your own admission to me: "As much as I care about Tim's accusers (and I do care, very much), I care even more about these victims[of alleged SRA] that I've spent hundreds and probably thousands of hours with. My best weapon against Tim being effective in this space is to keep him talking, because as you point out, every time he talks he contradicts himself and people see more clearly what they're dealing with." Followed by: "I can't say that I know my strategy here is the best one available, but it's the one I've chosen. I know it upsets a lot of people, but I'm pretty used to that. I know where my heart is, and I'm just praying that if I act with integrity here, everything will come out in the wash." There is no "acting with integrity" in this. Integrity went out the window the moment you thought you could use and abuse Tim Ballard's victims for your own personal gain. To try and deceive Tim Ballard by attacking and abusing his victims to appear as if you were his boyfriend, means that you are a predator and an abuser. In your mind, if you rape a victim of rape, then it doesn't matter, because she already experienced trauma and it serves a "better purpose" in your eyes, that it makes it okay. No, it makes you a rapist. A predatory rapist who prays on rape victims. You've lied to yourself and told yourself that if you do something disgusting and horrible with integrity, it means you should be okay. No, it means you're a delusional sick mother fucker. You cannot use and abuse someone with integrity. There is no integrity when you do something for your own selfish reasons. This would have never been an option for a half decent human being. Hell, murderers have more integrity. You can't use and abuse victims of sexual violence, claim that "you care" but "other victims are more important". How dare you try to put this at the feet of other alleged victims. This was about your ego. This was about you using and abusing victims for your own selfish gain. This was all about your beef with the LDS Church. That's all this ever was about. After that, you claimed the victims of Tim Ballard threatened you, and you failed to present evidence. That is because you lied. You knew there was a troll, because everyone already knows there was a troll acting like a victim. Except you already knew that. Everyone knows who it is. It is no secret and I made sure you knew that. Except, you admitted no such threats were made anyway. You have no integrity. You are unfit, and unethical, and a horrible human being. I gave you every possible chance to fix this. To redeem yourself, not to me, or for me, because we were finished the moment you thought some game like this was a good idea, but to the public and to these women. That's what they deserve. They do not need to forgive or associate with you further, I wouldn't if I were them. But that's their personal choice and their right. At least they know the real you moving forward. That LDSAbuse name you use, you have no business acting like an advocate for abuse victims. You're a goddamn predator preying on victims. I gave you chance after chance to apologize and for you to make any excuse you wanted to protect your precious ego, and I wouldn't have interfered or corrected the record. You just needed to expose yourself as a fraud and abuser, but explain it in your own words and frame it however you wanted. Again, I wouldn't have corrected your excuses, because you would have demonstrated who you really are anyway. Then finally apologize to the victims. Instead, you acted like asking you to act like a decent human being to rape victims was some mortal sin. That said, I really wanted to believe that you were just confused and would ultimately do the right thing. This was never about the right thing, the truth or the victims. This was always about your goddamn beef and grievances with the Church and you were seeking revenge, willing to use victims of the church to get even. Instead, you exposed who you really are. An abuser. You use people and abuse them. It's sick to use people you pretend to be friends with and advocate for, but it is horrific that you prey upon, use and abuse victims of sexual assault for your own personal agenda. Just like you think you are using and abusing Tim Ballard to get information on SRA. Except, he is using your dumbass. Tim Ballard really is a stupid motherfucker, but between you and him, I think he's got you beat. You walked right into his trap. A trap he set just for you. Normally, I would have exposed you and buried your ass without blinking an eye. Instead, I kept pushing you so that you put on a little show, and kept trying to reframe my issues and complaints to divert from the real issue at hand. Even then, I really wanted to think you were confused and blinded by your own passion and ego. No, you're the type of man to prey on rape victims, because you think if you act nice and sweet, you might get laid. You probably see nothing wrong with showing up outside of drug rehabs with drugs in a disgusting attempt to get them to have sex with you in exchange for drugs. What you did Justin, is the same exact thing. Ultimately, this isn't about you though, I don't give a shit, you're not allowed to abuse these women unobstructed and without challenge under the ruse that you're cozying up to Tim. I'm not stupid, you did it cause you're sick. That's not how journalists and advocates operate, because it is disgusting. They are not objects for you to use for your beef against the LDS Church or to chase fantasies. I told you I would not be part of this charade and you needed to fix it. I'm not your accomplice or a witness. You cannot do what you are doing and really think because you told me in advance, that you get a pass for "your strategy". Their pain is not your personal gain. It is not to be used as barter or collateral to get on another predator's good side. You wanna get on Ballard's good side? Why don't you and him pose as "a pedophile homosexual couple" and you guys role play and get comfortable with each other to fool the traffickers. God knows Justin, he won't have to take your ass, you'll give it away. Didn't Tim say he'd fuck anything to rescue a child? That he would fuck a goat? Are you not good enough? Think about it like this Justin. Instead of hurting others, why don't you endure a little pain at your own personal expense, let him tap your ass so you can get closer to him for the victims of SRA, and he can rescue children? Hell, both of you would sell your mothers out for handjobs, so I'm not sure why you two are not getting physically comfortable with each other so it looks natural in public. In my last post before this, I told you to do the right thing. That was not a request, but a final opportunity. I gave you every possible out. A chance to apologize, admit fault and to begin the healing process. You didn't care about that. This was always about your ego and your personal beef with the church. I'm not fucking with you. You exposed yourself, without hesitation. Now the ruse is up. This isn't a game. What you did and said to the women was not only unethical, but disgusting. You are accountable. It may have also been a felony crime since you did such things and made such accusations against them on behalf of Tim Ballard, who you know has a Sexual Violence Protective Order against him. What in the hell is wrong with you? Shameful. Absolutely shameful, and you think you got the balls to come on here and act like you do? Then you put on this passive aggressive performance trying to be cute? You are very lucky. You're so goddamn stupid, you don't even know how lucky you are. You have no clue. Clueless. You're such a dramatic and performative little bitch. The cowardice speaks volumes. The lying just shows how afraid and little you really are. Which is why you are all alone and have friends like Tim Ballard. Except, you're not even a real friend to Tim Ballard, are you? You think you are using him to get information on SRA, when in reality he is actually using you to do his dirty work, to attack and further abuse the women he raped. Your dumbass don't even know you're getting played, and Tim Ballard is a stupid motherfucker too. You feel good about it? Did it make you feel like a real man? You went out of your way to support and befriend these victims, only to stab them in the back and use them because you were so desperate and stupid that in November 2025, you actually believed that Tim Ballard was "investigating SRA and Gordon Bowen". Except, Tim Ballard ran protection for Gordon Bowen for years. By his own admission. He smeared and discredit two victims for Gordon Bowen. Now, you have my permission to block me and cease response. You are not worthy of my time or even speaking about these women. They are not your toys to chase conspiracy theories, to use and abuse in a weak and very lame attempt at placating a rapist. Last but not least, you tried to intimidate me, which is an act of violence in my book. Big mistake. I'm not Tim Ballard, your ex-wife, a woman or your kids. You better be walking heavy from now on and have a goddamn army around you. Now it's over. Have a nice day.

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@DDLMoore apparently found my conditions unacceptable. He didn't ask his question in a way that could be answered, and didn't answer the question I asked. I want to thank Damion for the public conversations we've had, and everything he's taught me. This last month, since a x.com/ldsabuse/statu…

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11:24 AM · Dec 30, 2025·64 Views

My responses included with one of Damion’s texts on SRA:

Truth be told, I believe the real problem here is that Justin deeply and desperately wants this very subject be true for a couple reasons, that's just not important now.

This just shows that Damion hasn’t read my feed very carefully. I have stated repeatedly that I do not like the term Satanic Ritual Abuse, and that I would prefer to not talk about it much. However, for whatever reason, it is a topic that people want to discuss, and so I’m willing to do so, as long as people don’t try to shove it down my throat, and allow me to express both skepticism (as I have about some very prominent SRA stories), and support (both for the victims as human beings, and for their cases if they’re lucky enough to get someone in law enforcement to listen to take them seriously).

Post after post, he pretty much hits the nail on its proverbial head, maybe a little too much reading between the lines, but for the most part he demonstrates he "gets it". So this is not a "core competency" problem or lack of understanding. Comprehensions, seems to work fine. So let's look into shall we?

That’s very kind of you. Thanks.

Justin has what some call a "momentary lapse of reason".

Or, he just has a sincere question that has an answer that’s obvious to you, because you’re a professional, but isn’t obvious to a layman like me. <shurg>

"I'm not sure what Packer means by stating that they are uncorroborated. Maybe he'll explain it sometime. It's very much like the allegations against Tim Ballard - there are multiple victims telling similar stories... they just happen to be sisters, and much of the corroboration has to do with other victims of David Hamblin, etc."

This is probably the fundamental, single most important factor in what journalists should or should not report. Even professional tabloids make this distinction to avoid legal liability. "Uncorroborated" is very distinct word with a very specific meaning, however, I think most people should understand this, but majority don't as they have proven time and time again.

I think you’re right: the majority don’t… including me - until now. Thank you for educating us.

In journalism or law, a claim remains uncorroborated until additional independent evidence supports or validates it. Otherwise it is just a claim, and both legally and journalistically, is usually not suitable for any type of action or advancement (publication and such).

I think this is where I’m still a bit confused. My understanding was that if multiple people were making claims, their testimony corroborated each others. Indeed, I thought that many a criminal conviction occurred simply on multiple witnesses testifying to the same fact pattern and set of observations. It sounds like maybe I’m wrong about that?

Next, the statement "it's very much like the allegations against Tim Ballard".

Absolutely not. I'm afraid anyone who "interprets" it as "very much like", either is ignorant, incompetent or being deliberately dishonest. They are not the same. Not even in the same ballpark. It's inconceivable to me, that an educated person (3rd grade) would come to that conclusion. This is further evidence, that Justin is intentionally dishonest with this issue.

That’s pretty poor evidence that I’m “intentionally dishonest”, in my opinion. In Tim’s case, there are multiple people accusing him of similar crimes over a period of several years. Same in the Hamblin case. In Tim’s case there are accusers who have made contradictory statements that weaken their arguments. Same in the Hamblin case. In Tim’s case there’s a semen stained skirt that lends credibility to the accusations. In the Hamblin case David Hamblin is on tape admitting he raped his daughter, and a court found that he shouldn’t have custody of his children partly because of the sexual abuse they said he committed, a decision made by evaluating clear and convincing evidence.

I refuse to believe moving forward that people just don't understand basic fucking language. It is an adjective that substantially changes the meaning of the noun, "statements".  

Unless he can explain how he just doesn't know the difference between corroborated and uncorroborated. Legally, a person with no legal training or education should know exactly what the big difference is.

 Just how incredulous is Justin's claim?

Independent corroboration means that aside from the victims or contaminated source, there is evidence that corroborates the claim itself. Hotel records. Ballard's own emails. Cell phone records. Ballard's own admissions that he was with them. These are  independent verifiable facts that corroborate the women's claims.

See above. I believe (with a VERY limited understanding of the Hamblin case) that there are MANY pieces of independent evidence that corroborate many of the claims of the Hamblin girls - but not necessarily the SRA claims, as Caleb Proulx has pointed out.

The SRA claims are not corroborated by independent evidence, hence as Lynn Packer stated in the video they are "uncorroborated". They are just the claims themselves.

I understand this now, and would agree, as I said in a post last night where I stated I would concede to Caleb that none of the SRA allegations are likely to ever be corroborated in a way that would lead to a conviction.

 

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There is nothing but Bowen's victim's "claims" in and of themselves. They are uncorroborated. There is nothing independently that supports any alleged Satanic involvement. Worse, there are significant problems with the claims themselves. They are contradicted by established facts. They are contradicted by the victims and the victim's later recant. In private there is the admission of fabricating it for other reasons.

I guess that depends on how we define “Satanic involvement”. One of the things I’ve stated repeatedly is that it’s unnecessary to use the word Satanic when talking about abuse. It’s redundant, for those who believe in such things as God and Satan. Nobody believes there’s “Godly abuse” - so by definition, all abuse is Satanic.

As far as Bowen and the Hamblins go, I’m going to have to punt for now, because I just don’t know enough. I know that Bowen and Hamblin knew each other, I know that Bowen trusted Hamblin enough to try to use him to convince his children that there mother was crazy and evil for divorcing him, and I know both have serious allegations of both “normal” sexual abuse and what others call “Satanic ritual abuse” against them. I’ll speak to this as I learn more. One thing I’m particularly interested in is if the Hamblin girls’ claims that they played harp at Bowen’s house for events could be corroborated by historical records, for example. That seems like it would bolster their claims in general, if they could conclusively be placed at the residence on a night where there is a claim of abuse taking place.

Tim Ballard has fabricated everything. When a grown man, a former law enforcement officer steals the story an actual sex trafficking victim, claims to rescue her when she rescued herself, multiple times in two days. Gets all her identifying details wrong four or five times, to the President of the United States. The President's daughter. Lies under oath to congress. Does this, solely rip off his own people. Not only that, but his organization actually fabricates a digital card that "Lilliana" supposedly designed, it looks like like 5 or 6 year-old child man it. She was a grown woman at this point. Literally, only a sociopathic rapist, misogynist or a former or current member of the LDS Church, would equate a typo in a statement by a woman, to this man's level of pure intentional dishonesty, exploiting a trafficking victim, to defraud people in order to profit. This is on par with pedophilia. In prison, if you used children to defraud people, you would get stabbed. To criminals, this is a horrible person. In LDS culture, it's like "well, he has penis".

I’ve been very open about my skepticism about Tim’s ability to keep his stories straight, but I wouldn’t agree that he’s fabricated “everything”. That feels like a statement made on emotion, not the facts. For example, Tim claimed he was going to Syria - that seems to have taken place. He claimed he was going to Washington D.C. to try to work with lawmakers - that also seems to have happened.

I’ll tell you my biggest concern about Tim’s ability to keep the facts straight in the stories he tells: the details he changes aren’t small ones, they’re foundational ones. I’ve already confronted him about this one, so I’ll do it again.

In the text messages between Tim and one of his accusers, Tim mentions going to Prager University and says something along the lines of how it’s a dream come true to him - so I think we can confidently say this was an important event in his life.

When Tim does his interview with Prager U, does he tell the dog tag story that Lynn Packer has shown to be factually incorrect as his “founding story”?

No. He tells a story about an attempted kidnapping, which, if true, would be one of the most important events that took place in his life. So I looked to see if he had told the story other places, which he had.

There is a really critical detail about this story (amongst many others) that I think would be nearly impossible to forget or “misremember”: how old Tim was when it happened. In some of the versions of the story he claims it happened on his baptism day - which, in the LDS tradition, means it happened sometime right around his eighth birthday. In at least one version of the story, however (I believe in the book he was trying to sell), he says he was 7. That’s not a little “oopsie” - it’s a glaring problem, because LDS kids can’t get baptized when they’re seven. In my mind, the probability of making this mistake is so low that it calls the entire story into question. Let’s just put it this way: As a former LDS person, if somebody attempted to kidnap me on my baptism day, I would never make the mistake of writing in my book that the event happened when I was seven years old. There’s a ton more to explore about that story, including police reports that were apparently filed, but I’ll just leave it here for now.

This is the reason why the Salt Lake City District Attorney's Office explicitly made it clear, "It does not mean that we disbelieve or diminish a survivor’s account, but rather that the law requires evidence strong enough to remove every reasonable doubt for a jury." 

Another way of saying this is that the Salt Lake District Attorney’s Office believes that with the evidence they were provided there are reasonable doubts which would lead a jury to acquit Tim Ballard. So why do y’all treat anyone who questions any of the allegations being made as stupid, evil, or intentionally dishonest? Is Sim Gill stupid, evil and deliberately dishonest? Or are we allowed to take the same position that the people who do this for a living have taken without being beaten upside the head for it?

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For instance, the LDS Church and members (much like Muslims multiple male witnesses are virtually considered "proof"), the religion almost hinges entirely on the "The Three Witnesses".

"The Three Witnesses of the Book of Mormon" were Oliver Cowdery, David Whitmer, and Martin Harris, who testified that an angel showed them the golden plates and engravings, and they heard the voice of God confirm the record's truthfulness.

Really interesting point here which I’ve never considered. I think you’re right that in general, Mormons are more likely to consider uncorroborated stories as true, largely because they’re told their belief can be not only corroborated but cemented as true by what they call a “witness from the Holy Ghost”. It’s probably one of the main reasons they’re such suckers for MLM scams, like you and Lynn Packer have pointed out.

Really? So then Ballard's record is confirmed.

I see what you’re saying.

Another instance, "Axiom" aka you know who, previously stated, "Ballard has his faults, but I suspect these woman are bad actors". The entire basis for his theory rests entirely on the fact that they are women.

Ballard and his proven lies are simply faults. The women must be lying because, reasons?

Well, no. The women may be lying, because, to my knowledge (and PLEASE correct me if I’m wrong), at least one of the women claimed Tim Ballard was in a place he wasn’t when the event she sued him for happened (in other words, her claim wasn’t corroborated by other evidence), and several other women went on the record multiple times vouching for Tim before they accused him.

They may also be telling the truth, but not have enough evidence to move forward in a criminal prosecution.

There’s a lot of options here, and I’m not going to try to lay out every logical possibility on this thread - I’m just not sure why you’re trying to make it so black and white.

Who has a documented history of lying under oath in this matter, Tim Ballard or the women? The record is clear: Ballard has been shown to provide false and misleading statements under oath, repeatedly.

Good question, and you know the answer better than I do, because I’m not sure what’s been said under oath. If you say Ballard has been shown to provide false misleading statements under oath repeatedly, I believe you. I have no opinion on whether the women have made false and misleading statements under oath, but I can conclusively state that they have made false and misleading statements - because if you look at everything they’ve said over time, not all of it can be true. It’s the Joseph Smith polygamy problem - Joseph both spoke against polygamy and spoke for polygamy, so if you’re a church member, you can’t escape the fact that at some point Joseph wasn’t telling the truth.

Statistically, even one sexual assault allegation against a man is rare. More importantly, research consistently shows that in the overwhelming majority of sexual assault cases, sexual contact did in fact occur. That point matters here because Ballard denies that any sexual contact took place at all. From a probabilistic standpoint alone, the claim that two separate women independently fabricated allegations involving no sexual contact whatsoever stretches credibility to the breaking point.

I would only ask if any such cases could ever exist. If they do, your point is moot. If there exists a world in which multiple indivduals can fabricate claims of sexual assault against an alleged perpetrator, then we have a duty to examine each case independently. It’s not moral or ethical to toss a man into jail because of statistical probabilities. I really hope we can agree on that point, because the alternative is horrifying.

Ballard attempts to sidestep the issue of consent by asserting that “nothing happened.” But that assertion does not resolve the problem; it simply reframes it. Two independent allegations, reported to police, alleging sexual misconduct that never occurred at all would be statistically extraordinary, approaching lottery-level odds. It would be analogous to two unrelated groups separately accusing the same person of two different murders that never happened.

Okay. So we’re either witnessing something statistically extraordinary, or not. Got it.

So who, in such situations, is more likely to provide false or inaccurate accounts under oath or in official statements: ordinary citizens, or a law enforcement officer with training, experience, and institutional incentives to control narratives? Decades of wrongful-conviction research provide a clear answer. The majority of proven false convictions in sexual assault cases are linked not to women fabricating claims, but to law enforcement misconduct, including coercive interviewing, confirmation bias, and manipulation of evidence.

I believe you. But we don’t send human beings to jail based on statistical probabilities or what the majority of people do (although as individuals we very well may decide whom we set boundaries with based on these things. Heuristics are a good thing which perpetuate the continued existence of the species).

This brings us to the question of why false sexual assault allegations occur at all. Ballard claims the women “fell in love” with him. That explanation is not supported by the research. Across more than a dozen studies on false sexual assault allegations, romantic rejection does not emerge as a meaningful factor. The most common reason, accounting for well over two-thirds of false reports, is to conceal or deflect responsibility for the accuser’s own wrongdoing. That pattern holds across false allegations generally, not just in sexual assault cases.

Here, that explanation fails entirely. There is no underlying misconduct by the women that these allegations would serve to conceal. That fact alone significantly undermines the claim that these accusations are false.

Okay, I’m following. I would argue that from an LDS perspective, some of these women were engaging in behavior that their community would have seen as wrongdoing, and been very embarrassing to them if what they were doing were to have been publicized - but I’ve not seen any evidence AT ALL that indicates any of the women were engaging in criminal behavior before all the suits were filed.

What this points to instead is something more troubling: evidence of premeditation and manipulation of consent. As a former law enforcement officer, Ballard understood how consent is evaluated, how witnesses perceive behavior, and how ambiguity can be exploited. The use of the so-called “couple’s ruse”, encouraging or engaging in public displays of affection under the guise of operational necessity, functions to deliberately blur boundaries. It creates confusion about consent, normalizes inappropriate contact, and provides a pretext to later argue that any physical interaction was mutual or merely performative.

I 100% agree, and if I were prosecuting Tim Ballard, I would spend 90% of my time doing everything I could to prove these statements, and try to convince a jury that no matter what documents these women signed, they are null and void because the couple’s ruse breaks every rule of common decency and professional conduct known to the civilized world, and the fact that OUR allowed them to be used was negligent and criminal. In what world did anyone involved believe that in order to be employed by a company like OUR one would have to agree to being put in the positions these women were put into? Anyone who knew about the Couple’s Ruse who didn’t put an immediate end to it is culpable, in my opinion.

That is not an accident. It is a strategy. And when viewed through the lens of established research on sexual assault dynamics, consent, and coercive control, it is deeply concerning.

Again, agree 100%.

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There is no comparison to SRA, not even close.

I’m confused.

Are you saying there are no Satanists?

Or just no Satanists who participate in rituals?

Or just no Satanists who commit abuse while participating in rituals?

If Tim Ballard’s case is about sexual abuse, so are many SRA cases. Can we agree on that?

I find it laughable that SRA, especially in Utah is being resurrected.

I don’t. No matter how you look at it, Utah has a huge problem: either a lot of people are being abused, or a lot of people are making false claims about being abused. I don’t think that’s laughable at all. I’d like to get to the bottom of it, and work to get to a place where people don’t get falsely accused of horrific crimes, and those who allege they were sexually abused receive the assistance they need to heal - whether that’s a criminal prosecution, mental health services, ecclesiastical assistance, etc.

You have real victims of sex abuse, which you have pastors trying desperately to get the children to inject SRA into their story to protect members of the church.

Mormons don’t have pastors, but do you believe Mormon Bishops and Stake Presidents do this?

A girl is sexually, one of many by one the deacons. This is when SRA is huge. The parents instead of taking their child to a real therapist, counselor or doctor, no they go to the Minister for spiritual counseling (the real priority for the parents is her virginity), she talks about the actual abuse. Over the course of a few months, he plies her with alcohol then claims she was sexually abused by "demon boys" and that Satan "clouded" her memory with the man that actually abused her, to the point where she admits she is confused.

Again, do you think this is happening in Utah? Are Mormon bishops and stake presidents manipulating young boys and girls until they admit they are confused before contacting Kirton McConkie?

We are 100% aligned on the insanity of taking an abuse victim to an ecclesiastical leader instead of the police. That’s just poor parenting.

So what does he do? Now he brings the police in. This poor girl is now telling a story to the police, where she is admittedly confused, and she talks about demons and Satan. When she comes forward later, she is the "crazy girl" (actually what the detectives call her)

No Mormon bishop or stake president ever brings the police in, especially after months of counseling. They contact Kirton McConkie, because that’s what they’re instructed to do. KM looks at what needs to be done to protect the image and assets of the church, and instructs the Mormon leader what to do, with the explicit promise that the bishop or stake president now has attorney/client privilege with KM. Everyone’s protected but the victim.

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First, Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) is a blanket term. It has no established doctrine, no consistent belief system, and no standardized rituals. There is no dogma As a result, virtually anything can be labeled “Satanic” or “ritualistic,” which makes the term inherently vague and easily abused. That lack of definition is itself a red flag.

100% agree.

Now, street gangs are real, and can easily be proven that they exist. There are documents, dogma, manifestos, rules and regulations, membership lists, official internal investigations, logistics and security wings and front organizations and the one thing criminal organizations cannot escape, financials records and wealth. Worse, we have current and former members who snitch and rat, etc.

The same can be said for Satanists, correct? So can we all agree there are groups of people who affiliate with one another that call themselves Satanists? That would be a good first step, I guess.

The problem is, SRA falls apart from the onset. 17 women Lynn Packer and/or interviewed 14 victim's stories self-destruct in two questions, that should have been asked immediately.

1) How did you know you were being victimized by Satanists?

2) How did you know this was a Satanic ritual?

I’m not following. If I’m interviewing somebody who has been victimized by a gang, do I immediately ask them

  1. How did you know you were being victimized by gang members?
  2. How did you know this was gang-related activity?

Or do I focus on gathering evidence regarding whether a crime was committed, regardless of whether the criminal was a gang member or a Satanist?

What I’m asking is, “Who cares what group(s) the alleged criminal affiliates with? Isn’t the primary question one of which whether or not a crime was committed?”

They are contaminated witnesses, repeating what they were told. What's the issue? We might have a real victim of sex abuse, an actual trauma that has contaminated with Christian dogma.

When talking about the cult, rituals or Satanism, these alleged victims are now speaking as independent experts, not as victims. That becomes the nail in their story's coffin. At this point, you know they are storytelling not recalling, this is a common interrogation technique.

So we agree that a competent investigator would do everything they could to not focus on whether Satanism was a contributing factor to the alleged crime until it was established that an actual crime had been committed?

When you listen to SRA victims, they seem to have all the answers and understanding about Satanic cults. They are high information and knowledgeable on the subject of Satanism and SRA, but when comes getting into the details of their story, they almost leave.

I agree this is a huge problem, particularly with what I consider “celebrity SRA victims”.

The only thing about SRA victims that I find fascinating, they have the same energy and trajectory as CoCo Berthmann.

Some of them, yes. But I couldn’t disagree more about the majority of them.

Now we could nip in the bud, but my true concern with alleged SRA victims, is the fact that states have continually protected church interests' (all Christian denominations) and by extension child abusers, pastors who lack education and training in counseling can easily help frame a Satanic narrative to child who does not understand nor comprehend the abuses that have already occurred.

It seems we’re in agreement here. The focus that churches put on Satan - and in the case of Mormonism, the therapists the church sends victims too, greatly reduces the chances of actual victims receiving justice. With Mormons it’s not just the narrative of Satanism - the therapists actually engage in therapeutic modalities that almost guarantee a victim’s case will be thrown out in court. Hypnotism and memory recovery, for example.

When stripped down logically, SRA claims can only fall into four categories, or some combination of them:

1) A literal Satanic organization exists, modeled loosely on popular misunderstandings of LaVeyan Satanism, possessing supernatural powers and using magic. This claim collapses immediately, as LaVeyan Satanism is atheistic, symbolic, and explicitly rejects belief in supernatural power.

Many Satanic organizations exist.

They openly talk about supernatural powers, and what they refer to as magick.

I’m not sure what the focus on LaVeyan Satanism has to do with anything, or what this category has to do with whether or not there are in fact Satanists who participate in rituals which include abusive behaviors.

2) People who do not believe in a literal Satan use “Satanism” as a pretext to abuse others, particularly children. This scenario is nonsensical from a criminological standpoint. Sexual sadists do not need elaborate belief systems or theatrical rituals to commit abuse, and there is no evidence of organized, ideologically motivated groups operating this way.

Even Lynn Packer disagrees with you there. He openly acknowledges there are “implausable yet proven Mormon-related ritualistic child sex abuse cases.” If you accept my axiomatic assertion that all abuse is Satanic, then you and Packer have to agree that there are proven Mormon-related Satanic ritualistic child sex abuse cases. I’d hate to see you try to argue that some abuse is good, and therefore godly, but feel free to do so if you’d like to.

3) Mass hysteria and psychological contamination, in which suggestive questioning, misinformation, recovered-memory therapy, and cultural fear produce shared narratives that feel real to participants but are not grounded in actual events. This explanation is extensively documented, historically replicated, and supported by decades of research.

Agreed on the realities of mass hysteria, psychological contamination, and cultural fear, but the idea that every case of alleged SRA in Utah consists of situations where there is nothing more than shared narratives that feel real to participants but are not grounded in actual events is demonstrably false, as shown above.

4) Christians falsely framing abuse as “Satanic”, either to externalize responsibility, reinforce spiritual warfare narratives, or provoke fear that drives people toward religious authority. This has historical precedent and aligns with documented moral panics.

Agreed. As I stated above, if one holds a worldview in which good and evil exists, and God represents “good” and Satan represents “evil”, saying “Satanic ritual abuse” is redundant. In such a worldview, all abuse is de facto satanic in nature.

Taken together, the evidence overwhelmingly supports the third explanation, mass hysteria amplified by cultural fear and misinformation, sometimes reinforced by elements of the fourth. There is no credible evidence supporting the existence of organized Satanic groups engaging in ritual abuse, and no form of real-world Satanism aligns with SRA narratives.

Gail Goodman: “While isolated ritualistic abuse by individuals or small groups (sometimes invoking Satanic themes for intimidation) was noted, no evidence supported widespread organized networks involving murder, cannibalism, or baby-breeding.”

FBI Supervisory Special Agent Kenneth Lanning's 1992 report (Investigator’s Guide to Allegations of “Ritual” Child Abuse), based on hundreds of investigations, concluded there was little or no corroborative evidence for large-scale Satanic conspiracies.

What is it? Little, or no? If “a little” corroborative evidence exists, what is it? Can we evaluate it?

Church of Satan and The Satanic Temple

If you take "SRA accounts" seriously, then you'd have to wonder the phenomenon does not reflect original scripture and modelled after a professional troll.

Grok conversation goes here.

Not every victim whether their allegations are substantiated or not is suitable to be put forward as the public face of a case or narrative. I find it deeply troubling when people present individuals who are clearly struggling, who are not effective communicators, or who are visibly unwell, and then place them in front of an audience or a camera. The reality is that this does not serve the truth, the public, or the victim it risks humiliating them and exploiting their vulnerability for narrative or strategic purposes.

Agreed. It’s actually one of my biggest concerns about Mortenson and Rasmussen’s legal strategy in the Ballard case, which seemed to hinge on convicting Tim Ballard in the court of public opinion instead of doing what every lawyer I’ve ever seen has done: make sure his or her clients stay quiet as a mouse, and still as a rock, until the justice system has done its job. Why do you believe, Damion, that these lawyers made the strategic decision they did? Have they ever discussed it with you?

Looking at what’s happened, do you think the truth, the public, or the victims best interests were served by this decision? I’m inclined to say that they weren’t, although in a state like Utah, where sexual abuse victims rarely get justice, I can understand why the decision was made. It’s the same reason I don’t try to win victories in elections or courtrooms - because in the end, in this fight, the only victory available to victims in most cases is through the court of public opinion - which just so happens to be the court that institutions like LDS, Inc. fear the most.