Invincible-verse speed

CREDIT TO: khadz.

*To clarify, Viltrumites (and co.) cannot attain MFTL+ speeds instantly, nor in any way that applies to combat (bar occasions where they are able to bullrush after having accelerated, in which case their combat speed and accelerated reaction/perception apply). However, their insane acceleration(s) allows them to move at relativistic speeds (bare minimum) in short time/distance, and even low FTL speeds at a push. ~ For all/most notable Viltrumite/Invincible super speed feats and scaling (mostly independent of these higher-end speed measurements in space), check THIS out.

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Flight Speed

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Omni-Man flies to Thraxa calc:

•It took Omni-Man a week to get to Thraxa, as his own in-universe narration states:

Thraxa is in the Virgo super cluster:

•The Virgo super cluster is 65M LYs away from Earth and Omni-Man travelled that distance in around a week.

65000000×365 = 23,725,000,000 (days taken for light to reach the cluster from Earth/our solar system).

23725000000/7 {days} = 3389285714.29c (3.4 billion times the speed of light).

•Omni-Man stated (above) that he found the planet by mere luck of the void of space, therefore would have needed to react accordingly to slow down and reach the planet (not accounting for time of deceleration, which would make his reaction time even more impressive).

Resolution power a human(oid) eye can pick up: 1/60th° = 0.000290888rad.

Distance for minimum perceived size of Thraxa: 12742/0.000290888 = 43803800.776km = 43803800776m.

Omni-Man’s reaction time to land on planet (assuming a perfect infinite deceleration): d/v = 4380380077/(3389285714.29×299792458) = 0.00000000431s = 4.31ns.

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Invincible outspeeds the fastest CoP ship calc:

•Omni-Man states that the ship they’re on is the fastest the CoP has:

•Proof that it is physical flight speed, rather than hyperspace/warp/sub-space jumps:

Oliver notices planets as blurs as they fly by. One of the pilots confirmed it to be so.

•The art only mid-way through the journey (several days of travelling to go) displays the blur (of light) identically to how it was when Invincible jumped out (with the ship behind him), indicating that it was still indeed at top speed during the point Invincible outspeeds it (and also accelerating, with blue streaks coming out of the engine):

•Omni-Man states that the ship can return to Talescria from Earth in about a week or so:

•Talescria is located in the Virgo super cluster, the same as Thraxa, therefore the result for Omni-Man’s speed would be the exact same as the ship’s (as far as we know; there isn’t a specified galaxy or star system to work with):

•The Virgo super cluster is 65 Million LYs away from Earth and the ship can travel that distance in around a week.

65000000×365 = 23,725,000,000 (days taken for light to reach the cluster from Earth/our solar system).

23725000000/7 {days} = 3389285714.29c (3.4 billion times the speed of light).

•For reference, within a single picosecond of him jumping out of the ship, the ship would’ve crossed a distance of 1016.1km. Clearly, no such distance was made between them, so Invincible accelerated in less than that time-frame in front of the ship.

•It should be noted that Invincible would still have an initial velocity equal to that of the ship (at the exact point he hops out), so the actual part of the feat is Invincible having enough acceleration to leave the ships own acceleration in the dust.

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Allen the Alien travels to Earth calc:

•Most distant part of our Solar System - Oort Cloud ~ 100,000AU distance from Earth.

100,000AU = 1.49598e+16m.

12 minutes = 720 seconds.

v: d/t = 1.49598e+16/720 = 2.07775e+13m/s (69306.3c).

•In the TV series, Allen the Alien flies from Mars to Earth in 75 minutes:

Average distance from Earth to Mars = 2.25e+11m.

75 minutes = 4500 seconds.

v: d/t = 2.25e+11/4500 = 5e+7 m/s (0.167c).

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Combat, Reaction & Operational Speed

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Allen the Alien’s reaction speeds are directly proportional to his flight speed:

•This means he can react in the picosecond (possibly femtosecond) ranges in normal flight.

•For a good frame of reference, Allen would be able to perceive light at this speed (or possibly slower) while moving at top speeds:

•A direct showing of the proportionality between Allen’s flight and reaction speed is when he dodges an MFTL Viltrumite ship passing by whilst flying himself:

•Blurring of the art indicates the fast speeds at which both are travelling at. The ship also appearing out of nowhere in the next panel implies its MFTL speed (handbooks also confirm Viltrumites have access to ships with superluminal/FTL speeds). Allen also mentioning being “back home in a few days” indicates the speed at which he is travelling is in the usual interstellar travel range (MFTL).

•Allen notices that the ship only slowed down until AFTER it passed him, and that they didn’t notice him until LATER. This confirms it was not slowing down but was indeed at full speed when he dodges and perceives it:

•Viltrumite warships could travel from Viltrum to Earth in a MAXIMUM of 2 weeks (most likely far less):

•Right after the Viltrumite war subsides.

•Viltrum is in the Virgo super cluster:

Distance: 65 million LYs (6.14947481e+23m).

Time taken: 2 weeks (1.21e+6 seconds).

v: d/t = 6.14947481e+23/1.21e+6 = 5.0822106e+17m/s = 1695242980.4c (1.7 billion c).

•Not to mention that this specific warship was at Earth only 3 panels/pages before Allen dodged it, so it is guaranteed MFTL.

•Assuming both Allen and the ship are moving past each other at both their calculated (casual) speeds:

vAB: vA-vB = (2.07775e+13)-(-5.0822106e+17) = 5.0824184e+17m/s (Relative velocity).

•Assuming Allen notices the ship first around 100 kilometres away from him before moving (quite a high value, but fair, considering level eye range and size of the ship):

t: d/v = 100000/5.0824184e+17 = 1.9675673e-13 seconds//0.19675673 picoseconds (Amount of time Allen had to react and dodge).

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Conquest tracks and navigates the CoP ship calc:

•The CoP team take off from Earth and reach an entirely different star system:

•Invincible gives the time-frame of a ‘few days’ (presumed around 5 days~multiple days but less than a week) since take-off:

Earth to Alpha Centauri (closest star system from Earth) distance: 4.367 LYs/4.1315e+13km.

Time taken: 5 days/432000 seconds.

Speed(velocity): d/t = 95636574.0741km/s == 95636574074.1m/s (319c).

•Conquest was tracking the CoP ship; even after it adjusted its speed, he immediately compensated to maintain the collision course. He must be able to perceive, react to and control his speed in time with the ship. - The ship is most likely FAR faster, as are all their ships, as it likely wouldn’t have taken 203761.755486 years to reach Viltrum (all the way in the Virgo super cluster).

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Space Racer’s Infinity Ray’s FTL speed calc & scaling:

•The Infinity Ray races towards a star and destroys it:

Time taken to reach star from POV: 3.74s (watched frame-by-frame at 30fps).

Star diameter = 219px = 2×696342000m = 1392684000m.

Panel height = 1080px.

Distance from POV to star: Object size×Panel height in pixels/[Object size in pixels×2tan(35°)] = 1392684000×1080/[219×2tan(35°)] = 4904282153.93m.

v = d/t = 4904282153.93/3.74 = 1311305388.75 (4.374c).

•Thragg dodges Space Racer’s Infinity Ray bolts:

^The art depicts his manoeuvres around the multiple rays fired, and he is seen to move ahead towards space racer, whilst two of his rays had covered a shorter distance.

•Space racer’s rays have to move at FTL speeds (minimum):

•Along with his fast ray, space racer possesses fast reaction speeds, being able to follow a Viltrumite at interstellar speeds whilst dodging/manoeuvring around space rock and asteroid belts:

•Similarly, Invincible, Omni-Man and Thaedus could keep up with the infinity ray and communicate whilst travelling downwards:

•Yet, in the time-frame, the Viltrumites managed to telepathically communicate whole large sentences/thoughts and also trade facial expressions (e.g. Thaedus saying/thinking “Now! Stay close- -we have to time this perfectly and reach the planet all at the same time! If the core has time to stabilise, we could die on impact. One chance- - Faster! Faster! GET READY!” - that last line specifically was when they were only a few metres from touching down on the surface at these speeds, yet his thought speed was fast enough to deliver it before they closed this small distance. Allen could also very much perceive them and say/think “Wait, what are we- -Ack! Crap!” in the time it took for them (and the ray) to cross a few metres, further reaffirming the level of his reaction/operational speed. MFTL speed for the infinity ray is backed up by the statement, from Omni-Man’s novel, that “blasts from this infinity ray still race through the cosmos”. Nothing short of MFTL speeds could cover these distances, even in the most highballed of time-frames.

•Space Racer also could not follow or perceive what was happening in the battle between Battle Beast and Thragg on the Thraxan planet, deeming it too “erratic” as they were “moving across the planet at a rapid rate” and that “truthfully, I can’t determine whether Battle Beast is winning or losing this fight.” In other words, he could not perceive their actual tussle at all, as the speed they were fighting at was too great:

•Viltrumites, like Anissa, can perceive the Infinity Ray has it moves across space and kills some Viltrumites:

•Allen the Alien is able to dodge an Infinity Ray shot at point-blank range:

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Tech Jacket tosses a Kresh spaceship in quick time calc:

•Tech Jacket would need to accelerate the ship to its peak speed, before letting it go.

•Assuming fair time-frames of 10, 30 and 60 seconds:

-->Taking 1AU (1.496e+11m) as the average distance;

v = d-t.

Low-end speed/High-end time [60s]: 1.496e+11/60 = 2493333333.33m/s (8.317c).

Mid-end for speed & time [30s]: 1.496e+11/30 = 4986666666.67m/s (16.634c).

High-end speed/Low-end time [10s]: 1.496e+11/10 = 14960000000m/s (49.9c).

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Omni-Man blitzes Red Rush calc:

•Omni-Man managed to grab Red Rush’s head and slam him with another guardian’s head before he could react at all.

•Red Rush blitzed Kursk, dodged his lightning, saved a man from the bolts, and manoeuvred around the bolts emanating from Kursk successfully to apprehend him/tie him up:

•Kursk’s lightning/electricity is relativistic in-universe:

•Mach 281517.9 = 0.32c.

•Invincible also seemed to be able to dodge Kursk’s bolts casually:

•Kursk also naturally emits and is surrounded by an EM field:

•Despite, being able to manipulate bioEM energies, Kursk cannot do so to red rush due to his speed:

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Invincible and Conquest fight too fast for GDA satellites to track calc:

•GDA satellites were 5 minutes behind on their movement:

•Low-Earth orbiting satellites usually travelling at around 17500mph, i.e. orbital velocity.

17500mph = 7823.2m/s.

5 minutes = 300 seconds.

7823.2×300 = 2346960m/s (Mach 6842.44898).

•Keep in mind that this is just the bare minimum (average) speed, not factoring in the stops they take in moving when engaging in dialogue (multiple times), as well as considering that this Earth (the GDA specifically) is SEVERAL orders of magnitudes more advanced than the real Earth, having access to technology from 6 universes and 4 dimensions, so their tracking satellites would be FAR faster:

•GDA Satellite technology could also pick up, track and photograph Allen the Alien’s flight speed as only a slight blur:

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Invincible and Omni-Man pitch to each other across the globe (amazon & comic):

•Scene.

Earth’s circumference = 40,075km.

Omni-Man’s pitch = 18 seconds.

v: d/t = 40075/18 = 2226.38888889 km/s (Mach 6491).

Invincible’s pitch = 5.56s.

v: d/t = 40075/5.56 = 7207.73381295km/s (Mach 21013.8).

•They both react to each other’s pitches.

•Despite Invincible’s fast reaction time, he is too slow to react to Omni-Man, who statues him:

•Assuming Invincible’s punch was thrown with the equivalent KE that he pitched the baseball with (seeing as he put his whole body into the throw and the punch, both in similar motions), that Invincible’s apparent velocity in statue-mode was around 0.01m/s, and that Omni-Man would blitz at a pace of 50m/s in statue-mode:

KE: ½mv² = ½×0.145×7207733.81295² = 3.7664784e+12J.

v: √(2KE/m) = √(2×3.7664784e+12/2.9) = 1611698.266m/s.

Omni-Man’s speed: (1611698.266/0.01)×50 = 8058491330m/s (Mach 23494143.81924~26.88c).

With lowballing:

•Invincible has shown speeds fast enough to travel from just above Earth’s atmosphere to the Moon in mere moments (whilst also pushing Allen’s mass along with him):

Time taken: 3.72 seconds.

Earth: 1411px (12742km).

Panel height: 1080px.

Distance from Earth: 12742×1080/(1411×2tan(70°/2)) = 6964.30150746km.

Total distance from the Moon: 384400-6964.30150746 = 377435.698493km.

v: d/t = 377435.698493/3.72 = 101461.209272km/s (Mach 295805.275~0.34c).

•There’d be no reason Invincible couldn’t go this fast here, as:

Atmospheric drag is negligible for such high velocities.
There is only a restriction for Viltrumites and other beings going FTL-MFTL near planets, as they could cause irreparable harm.
Episode 8 Invincible>Episode 2 Invincible (several months between them).
Invincible was bloodlusted/all-out here.
He could seemingly immediately accelerate to such speeds.

•To find Invincible’s acceleration (assumed constant for fairness) and apparent velocity where Omni-Man statues him (even though he’d still be accelerating, but slightly - assume he accelerated for about 5m of distance from Omni-Man):

a = v/t = 101461.209272/3.72 = 27274.5186215km/s².

v = √(2ad) = √(2×27274.5186215×5) = 522.250118444km/s.

Omni-Man’s speed: (522.250118444/0.01)×50 = 2611250.59222km/s (Mach 7612975.48752~8.7c).

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Amazon Omni-Man zigzags Flaxa:

•Scene.

•In this scene, Omni-Man flies across the Flaxan world and causes a large amount of dust and debris to fly across the planet. Using this image, the first trail is 689 px long, the second is 1095px, and the third is 1153px. Seemingly the width of the trails are about 39px. The height of the trails is between 125px and 45px, meaning an average of about 85px in height.

•Now, in this image, the planet is 995px in diameter and the image is 1000px in height. The third dust trail in the image is 85px long. Using planet curvature scaling, we'd get:

√(1-(tan(35)×(995/1000))²/((tan(35)×(995/1000))²+1))×12742 = 11525.3898346km (11525389.8346m):

(11525389.8346/995)×85 = 984581.041147m.

(984581.041147/1153)×689 = 588357.621293m.

(984581.041147/1153)×1095 = 935053.113665m.

(984581.041147/1153)×39 = 33303.2615826m.

(984581.041147/1153)×85 = 72584.0316544m.

The first trail (the smallest) took 10 frames, the second took another 10, and the third took 6 frames, so the speed of them should be:

588357.621293/(10/24) = 1412058.2911m/s.

935053.113665/(10/24) = 2244127.4728m/s.

984581.041147/(6/24) = 3938324.16459m/s.

Top speed: 3938324.16459m/s (Mach 11482~0.013c).

•Omni-Man was fast enough to react and manoeuvre in perfect zigzags across the planet at such speeds. ~ For every directional turn, Omni-Man would’ve had to have slowed down (due to change in velocity), so this further boosts and shows his impressive reaction time.

•Omni-Man also managed to fly from the surface of the planet to a satellite’s orbit in less than a second:

Time taken: Frames/FPS = 17/25 = 0.68 seconds.

•Using the previous pixel scale of the planet and its curvature:

Distance from planet: 11525.3898346×1000/(995×2tan(70°/2)) = 8271.337949km.

•The distance of the POV from Omni-Man is negligible (far less than even 1km) as he is certainly visible. ~ Therefore, the size of the satellite would not be too impressive either.

v: d/t = 8271.337949/0.68 = 12163.73228km/s (Mach 35462.776~0.04c).

•Omni-Man had reactions fast enough to control/change his direction and trajectory entirely, fly up at more than 8000km and find the tiny satellite in the vastness of space, all in the space of 0.68 seconds. This further proves how his reactions are borderline relativistic and equalised with his flight speed.

•It is HIGHLY likely that his speed was far higher, and in fact in the range of relativistic speeds (0.1-0.99c), due to the effects of his speed being reminiscent to the relativistic effects of attaining such high speeds. ~ His reactions and operational speeds would, therefore, be at near-light speeds.

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Scaling & Statements/Intent:

•Thragg blitzes Thaedus, Omni-Man and Allen the Alien at the same time (the bending and distortion of light in the art proves he is moving at some level of MFTL):

•Thragg casually reacts to Omni-Man’s all-out flight speed, even despite being taken by surprise as his back was turned to him. Narrative-wise, Omni-Man would have no reason not to go top speed to attack Thragg, for a plethora of reasons: 1. It was previously established that more speed = more power, given the Viltrum feat and Thaedus urging them to speed up. 2. Thragg commenting on Omni-Man’s speed, saying “faster than I thought”, would be rendered pointless if Omni-Man could literally go far faster. 3. He’d have needed to go FTL anyhow, as Invincible and Thragg flew away at these speeds, with Thragg chasing and easily catching up to him, whilst Invincible was in panic-mode, quite literally fleeing for his life. Given their top acceleration, they would’ve travelled several light-seconds within this time, and Omni-man caught up fairly quickly, despite not starting to fly after them at the same time( he told Invincible to go quickly whenThragg was busy with him):