Toyota/Lexus Hybrids
Efficient driving guide, information and diagnostics
(and more)
Compiled by /u/andy_why
2.1.11. Forced Hybrid Battery Charging 15
2.1.11. Transmission “B” Mode 17
2.2.13. Brake Specific Fuel Consumption (BSFC) 20
2.2.15. Temperature, Air Conditioning & Cabin Heating 23
2.2.16. Hybrid Battery Temperature 25
3. General Hybrid Information 27
3.1.1. Ni-MH (Nickel Metal Hydride) 27
4. Troubleshooting, diagnostics and known issues 30
4.1.1. 12v Battery Functions 30
4.1.2. Symptoms of a weak or failing 12v battery 30
4.1.3. Symptoms of a dead or failed 12v battery 30
4.1.4. Replacement Recommendation 31
4.1.6. Incorrect Charging (a likely deliberate design issue) 32
4.2. Gen 4 poor Ni-MH hybrid battery cooling performance 36
4.3. Unusual Engine Revving 40
4.4. Hybrid Battery Depletes/Charges Quickly 41
4.5. Hybrid Battery Rarely Fully Charges 42
4.6. Hybrid Battery Diagnostics with the Dr Prius App 43
4.6.1. The app interface and what everything means 44
4.6.2. How to check the health of your hybrid battery 47
4.6.2.1. Resting Voltage Balance 48
4.6.2.2. Internal Resistance Test 49
4.6.2.3. Low Speed Voltage Drop Test 50
4.6.2.4. High Acceleration Voltage Drop Test 51
4.6.2.5. Scan for Fault Codes 52
4.6.2.6. Reading the results 53
5. Technical Questions Answered 54
5.1. Why does the engine RPM not go to maximum when launching the car even though it has an eCVT? 54
5.2. Why do we not get the full engine power and hybrid electric motor power at the same time? 57
5.3. Why can’t the hybrid battery charge in “N” or “Neutral”? 58
5.4. Why does the engine start when I turn the car on even when I have a full hybrid battery? 58
5.5. Can I jump start another vehicle with my hybrid? 59
5.6. I need a new hybrid battery. What are my options? 60
This document has been compiled by Reddit user /u/andy_why primarily to help out the users of /r/prius, /r/ct200h and /r/Lexus.
/u/andy_why had owned a 2013 Lexus CT since 2016-2023, a Lexus UX 250h until 2025, and now a Toyota RAV4 Prime/PHEV, and has over 9 years of hybrid driving experience. With a strong technical background and an eye for detail, he has been able to learn the nuances of hybrid vehicle operation in this time which has allowed this guide to be created.
The techniques and information you can learn here can be applied to hybrid and electric vehicles, and some techniques work for non-hybrids too.
For ease of reading, explanations are in normal text and summarised tips are highlighted in green.
This guide was written with gen3 Lexus/Toyota hybrid powertrains in mind. Where possible, gen4 is specifically mentioned if something is different with that specific powertrain versus the gen3. However, most advice remains the same between generations.
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Whilst hybrid vehicles can help you save money with better fuel economy over a non-hybrid vehicle, if you know how to drive it more effectively you can maximise your fuel economy with very little effort.
There are a lot of factors that affect efficiency:
Wind
Windy weather can cause further aerodynamic drag on top of the speed that you’re travelling. This acts like increasing your speed which is less efficient.
To maximise fuel economy in high wind you can:
Rain
Driving in rain increases drag on your tires and body aerodynamics. Whilst you can’t control the weather, you can adapt to the conditions.
To maximise fuel economy in the rain you can:
Speed is a large factor in fuel economy thanks to the increase in aerodynamic drag as you increase in speed. This drag requires more energy to overcome resulting in higher fuel consumption.
According to studies backed by the department of energy, the average car will be at its advertised MPG at 55 mph (88 km/h). As the speed increases, efficiency gets worse.
Source: https://www.mpgforspeed.com/
The efficiency drop will vary between vehicles, but you can use the above as a rule of thumb.
Speed can also affect when your hybrid system is able to run in electric mode only with the combustion engine turned off. In most Toyota and Lexus hybrids, this is only permissible below 43 mph (69 km/h) except on models featuring a generation 4 hybrid synergy drive which allows the engine to turn off up to around 70 mph (112 km/h).
If you’re on a reasonably flat road and travelling at an appropriate speed for your generation of hybrid system, easing off the throttle might allow the car to enter electric (EV) mode and turn the combustion engine off.
You may be able to maintain your speed for a short time using EV mode only, but be aware, you’ll only be able to do this for up to 1 mile on a non-plug-in hybrid before the battery is depleted. You should avoid fully depleting the battery to avoid the engine running unnecessarily. Pulse and glide is a much better technique to use.
To maximise fuel economy you can:
Any time you accelerate you need to use more energy than when you are cruising to reach your desired speed. You can minimise the energy required by accelerating more gently and getting up to cruising speed more slowly.
Almost all Toyota and Lexus hybrids have a display on the dashboard indicating how much power you’re demanding from the hybrid system.
It is split into 3 segments:
The ECO region is split into 2 parts, with the lower half indicating where the electric part of the hybrid system can operate alone, and the upper half where the engine will always assist.
By staying in the ECO region as much as possible, you can maximise your fuel economy.
The car will accelerate quite slowly, and it might not be quick enough for some changes in elevation. Try to use the PWR area only when you need to.
To maximise fuel economy when accelerating you can:
Normally coasting would be considered dangerous because you have less control of the vehicle, however, in a Toyota and Lexus hybrid the way the transmission works means that you can coast without the transmission being in neutral.
The Power Split Device (or PSD) is a fancy name for the transmission, and it works by having a planetary gearset connected to two motor-generators (electric motors) called MG1 and MG2, and the combustion engine. By varying the speed and direction of MG1 the speed of the planetary set can change states which can allow the combustion engine to be started, stopped or allow it to generate electricity.
If the throttle pedal is lightly pressed just the right amount it’s possible to have zero energy transfer through the transmission. This condition is coasting / gliding. As soon as you apply or release the throttle the transmission will begin to transfer energy again. All other transmissions only achieve a zero energy state by disconnecting it from the engine through a clutch system.
Because there is zero energy transfer when you properly press the throttle, you are at the highest possible efficiency the car can be at other than being turned off. There is no drag from the engine or transmission and no burning of fuel. There is only aerodynamic and tyre drag to contend with. For the duration of coasting / gliding your car will essentially be doing infinite miles per gallon.
Now of course you will slow down over a short time, requiring you to use energy again, but in the duration of coasting your efficiency is at its highest because of reduced drag of engine and transmission components. This drag is otherwise higher than you might expect.
Mastering coasting / gliding takes time. You can use the power meter on the dashboard or the energy flow display on cars equipped with this to help you understand the power flow. Keep the needle or bar as close to the line between CHG and ECO to achieve the best coast / glide. Use ECO mode on the car to make the throttle pedal less sensitive.
A better explanation of the transmission/power split device with a nice interactive diagram is available here: http://eahart.com/prius/psd/
To maximise fuel economy by coasting / gliding, you should:
On a hybrid or electric vehicle, braking needs to become one of your best friends for fuel economy. Unlike a non-hybrid, which will waste all of the kinetic energy of the vehicle moving by converting it into heat in your brake pads, a hybrid vehicle can recapture some of the through regenerative braking.
Regenerative braking is achieved by taking the kinetic energy of the vehicle moving and using the electric motor as a generator to convert it back into electricity. This electricity is stored in your hybrid or EV battery to use again later.
It can take some time to master regenerative braking because it requires forward thinking and analysis of the road ahead. You need to look ahead and anticipate the need to slow down or stop so that you can decide when to begin braking.
Since hybrid vehicles generally don’t have particularly strong regenerative braking, you must brake early and lightly to capture as much energy as possible. EVs have stronger regenerative braking so you can brake a little later and still capture most of the energy.
You can help yourself avoid hard braking by keeping a larger than usual gap between you and the vehicles in front of you.
Whenever you are coming to a stop or need to slow down, take note of the power meter on your dashboard. It is split into 3 areas with one of them being “CHG”. This stands for “charging” and indicates that power is being put back into the battery as a result of braking.
You need to ensure that you keep the meter almost but not quite full to maximise regenerative braking. If the meter gets filled, then friction brakes will start to blend in with the regenerative braking and you will start losing energy to the friction brakes.
As you slow down to under 10mph (16 km/h) the friction brakes will engage automatically anyway when regenerative braking is no longer possible.
Do not be afraid to push the brake pedal harder if you need to stop more quickly. Safety is more important than efficiency.
To maximise fuel economy when braking you should:
Driving in the city versus driving on the highway can have a large impact on fuel economy. The reason for this is because general stop-go driving is less efficient than cruising. A hybrid vehicle is able to overcome a lot of this, but only when driven in the correct manner. You can easily get low fuel economy in the city if you don’t drive in the correct manner.
The best advice for this is to try to use a route which minimises city driving and keeps you at the most constant speed you can.
City Driving
Any stop and go city traffic means more energy is spent accelerating than you would use if you were cruising at a fixed speed. You should use the techniques learned in other sections of this document around acceleration and braking appropriately to maximise fuel economy in this situation.
If possible, try to use a route that does not require you to stop and go as frequently.
Highway Driving
Whenever you’re on the highway, you can maximise fuel economy by staying at a nice cruising speed and using your cruise control.
Avoid making changes to your speed whenever you can, as again, any acceleration requires more energy than cruising. If you have to change speed, try to do it slowly. Use the acceleration and braking techniques from this document.
To maximise fuel economy in the city vs highway you should:
The length of your journey can impact fuel economy because the combustion engine needs time to warm up to get to its operating temperature.
When the combustion engine is not at its operating temperature it operates at a much lower efficiency as the engine requires more fuel. A short journey may not be long enough to allow it to warm up, especially at colder times of the year.
In temperature conditions of around 0°C / 32°F the combustion engine will require 10-15 miles of highway driving (16 to 24 kms) to get to its full operating temperature of 90°C / 194°F.
The car will allow the combustion engine to turn off before it is fully warmed up in the pursuit of efficiency, so you can’t rely on this as an indicator that the engine is fully up to temperature.
Short journeys are going to occur regardless, so you should try to combine your short journeys close together so that the combustion engine does not fully cool down.
To maximise fuel economy you should:
The terrain on which you drive your hybrid or electric car will impact its fuel economy wildly.
By terrain we mean the type of road surface, the inclines and declines, and the turns in the road experienced on your route. Each of these affects fuel economy.
Road Surface
The road surface impacts fuel economy through drag on your tires. Stick to paved roads rather than loose surfaces to maximise fuel economy.
Inclines
Any change in elevation can positively and negatively affect fuel economy.
An incline will reduce fuel economy as you’ll use more energy to go up it. You can minimise energy used by not accelerating up the incline to a higher speed. Try to keep your speed, or even allow your vehicle to slow down a little as you climb it.
For example if you start an incline at 60 mph (96 km/h) and reach the top at 50 mph (80 km/h), this would be an acceptable loss in speed. Try to keep your power meter in the ECO range when possible.
Steep gradients may require you to enter the PWR area. If this happens, hold your speed unless you absolutely have to accelerate.
Declines
A decline will improve fuel economy as you descend it as you’ll use less or no energy. You can even recapture some energy through regenerative braking.
Twists and Turns
Twists and turns in the road generate drag on the tires, so avoiding tight turns minimises any loss through tyre drag.
To maximise fuel economy on varying terrain you should:
Everyone on the road has a varied driving style that can impact their fuel economy. By driving style we mean everything from:
This guide should help you to change your driving style to one that is more focused on maximising fuel economy.
However, to do this, you need to be patient and take your time.
You’ll likely not achieve anything from this guide if:
To maximise fuel economy you need to be open to changing your driving style:
Keeping on top of the maintenance of your vehicle is just as important for a hybrid or electric vehicle as it is for any other car. Some things can cause lower fuel economy.
Wheel alignment
If your wheels are not properly aligned it can cause increased drag on your tires resulting not only in lower fuel economy but excessive tyre wear too.
Binding brakes
A common issue on a lot of hybrids is binding brakes, which is caused by a brake calliper seizing up. This causes the brakes to constantly apply a small force, causing friction on the brake discs and therefore turning energy straight into wasted heat.
You can check for this by jacking up a wheel and spinning it whilst in neutral/with the parking brake off. It should spin freely without binding.
Poor engine running
A poorly running engine can consume more fuel than one that is running well.
There are a lot of reasons why an engine can run badly, but if you suffer any loss in power, have an engine management light on your dashboard, or hear strange sounds, you should have it looked at by a mechanic.
EGR system
On some models of Toyota Prius and Lexus CT200h, typically the 2010-2013 models, there is a known issue with the EGR system clogging up. This is generally considered to happen at around 100,000 miles (160 000 kms), and can happen more easily if your engine burns oil.
A clogged EGR system means that exhaust gases will not be re-burned in the engine and this can negatively affect fuel consumption.
Another unfortunate side effect of this is that it can also cause premature head gasket failure because of the increased combustion temperatures. This leads to engine misfiring/knocking, and requires head gasket replacement, and replacement or cleaning of the EGR pipe, cooler and intake manifold to fix the issue.
Preventative cleaning maintenance or part replacement should be considered for the EGR, EGR cooler and intake manifold every 75,000 miles (120 000 kms) on 2010-2013 Toyota Prius and Lexus CT200h models.
To maximise fuel economy you should regularly service your vehicle and have it checked annually by a mechanic. If you notice any changes to the car's behaviour or notice any unusual noises, have a mechanic check it over.
One operation of hybrid systems that is rarely talked about is forced hybrid battery charging. This occurs when the hybrid battery reaches a minimum charge level, and to prevent full depletion the car must forcibly recharge it using the combustion engine.
For the Toyota and Lexus hybrid systems, the battery has an internal percentage value which is converted to display to the driver as follows (varies depending on model):
You can see how the percentages and bars work in a bit more detail below:
It’s important to note that once the force recharging process begins it will forcibly charge the battery until it reaches 47-50% (4 bars), which takes around 2-3 minutes. The only time the engine will shut off during this is if you shut the car off yourself.
Forcibly recharging the hybrid battery requires you to burn fuel to make electricity, and this process is inefficient due to inherent losses through the system. Every time energy is converted from one kind to another, there are losses.
Knowing these inefficiencies, you would ideally want to recharge the hybrid battery from recaptured regenerative braking energy only, as this power would otherwise be lost in the friction brakes on a non-hybrid. We can almost consider this “free energy”.
Unfortunately, the basic principles of hybrid operation mean that this never happens. Whenever the engine is running it will recharge the hybrid battery until it’s back to 60% (6 bars) in gen1 to gen3 models, and this is a good thing because you’d encounter forced recharging more often if it didn’t do this, causing more inefficiency. Gen4 and higher models do not do this, they recharge only as much as needed until it needs to use the energy again to improve efficiency, so it will sit at a much lower charge level most of the time. You may encounter more frequent forced charging events in gen4 and higher models.
By being aware of the issue, you can attempt to prevent forced recharging of your hybrid battery using the following tips:
Inevitably, forced recharging of the battery is going to happen sometimes and there is little you can do about it. However, mitigating when possible will save you in the long run.
To avoid forced hybrid battery recharging, you can:
The transmission on your car has several modes. Normally you would drive in “D” or “Drive”, but Toyota and Lexus hybrids also have a “B” mode.
In short, “B” mode allows engine braking by keeping the engine running unless you’re completely stopped. This is similar to putting your automatic transmission in low or changing to a lower gear in a manual transmission.
Using “B” mode is inefficient and needs to be reserved for special purposes only.
“B” mode is designed for long descents down mountains or hills where regenerative braking alone would fill up your hybrid battery, causing your braking system to switch back to friction brakes only. By using “B” mode you can minimise wear on your brakes by allowing the engine to add drag and help to slow the car down.
“B” mode does slightly increase the default regenerative braking when you take your foot off the throttle, but it also allows engine braking for as long as it is enabled even if your hybrid battery is not yet full.
You need to carefully consider when the best time to use “B” mode is, and the best time is when your hybrid battery is full and is no longer offering braking assistance.
You should switch back to “D” or “Drive” as soon as you finish your descent.
Avoid using “B” mode unless:
If you are unsure if you should be using “B” mode on a descent or not, it is better to just use it anyway. Safety is more important than efficiency.
Pulse and glide is the epitome of hybrid driving. If you can master this, then your efficiency will improve drastically given that all other conditions are favourable.
What is pulse and glide?
Pulse and glide is a technique where you get up to your desired speed at a reasonable rate of acceleration, then when you reach it, you “coast” until you lose a little speed and then need to accelerate again.
How does it work?
This technique uses the unique ability of the Toyota and Lexus hybrid transmission to “coast” with the engine off without actually putting the transmission in neutral.
By carefully modulating the throttle pedal you can allow no power to go to the wheels, and no power to be put back into the battery. The car just “glides” on the existing kinetic energy.
How do you do it?
Why does this work?
Pulse and glide works because the ratio of energy lost to moving the combustion engine's internal parts versus how much energy is put to the wheels is higher.
By accelerating modestly, this ratio of energy lost to internal parts versus power put to the wheels is significantly lowered. Then, when you’re up to speed, allowing the engine to stop means no losses at all for a short time, rather than returning to a higher ratio of internal losses than power put to the wheels.
To try and explain this visually, below is an example of what these losses might look like based on vehicle speed:
Brake Specific Fuel Consumption, or BSFC, is the name given to the amount of fuel consumed at a given engine load and power output.
It’s possible for an engine to produce the same amount of power at different load levels and result in a different fuel consumption.
The eCVT (electronic continuously variable transmission) in Toyota and Lexus hybrids are designed to try and maximise the amount of time that the engine operates at the best BSFC point for the required power output. This is something that a manual and standard automatic transmission can’t do because of their set gear ratios.
Below are diagrams of the BSFC maps for the 2nd and 3rd generation Prius engines.
Controlling BSFC is next to impossible. Engine load varies due to a lot of conditions that are outside of your control, including speed, aerodynamics, road surface, temperature and more. The engine management system will always do its best to hunt for the best BSFC point that it can within the limitations of its programming.
There are ways in which you can help with this, and Toyota and Lexus give you an easy way to do it - the dashboard power meter.
By staying within the upper part of the ECO area of the power meter you will allow the engine management system to stay as close to the best BSFC point as possible.
However, there is a massive caveat. Note that the graph above says that the best point to be at is 2200-2500 rpm at 120km/h (75 mph) cruising speed. This is true, but it can result in higher fuel consumption than driving a bit slower at a less efficient BSFC point.
The reason for this is because you need more energy to drive faster thanks to additional aerodynamic drag. So whilst the engine might burn fuel more efficiently at a higher load when you drive faster, you’re still using more fuel than you need to. Slowing down will use a lot less fuel than you lose in fuel burn efficiency. This is true until you slow down too much (below around 40 mph - 64 km/h) and then your engine efficiency will drop and the benefits are lost.
BSFC tends to be poor at slower speeds because it’s not possible to put enough load on the engine to bring it up into an efficient region.
The car’s engine management system will always do its best to get efficiency to the best BSFC point as often as it can, but ultimately, without a constant load on the engine, BSFC will never be at its best all (or much) of the time.
So what do you as a driver need to do?
Tire pressure can have a small impact on your fuel efficiency, especially if they’re under-inflated.
You should always ensure that your tires are properly inflated to the correct PSI. Check them regularly and don’t ignore your car's TPMS system if it gives you a tire pressure warning.
You can find the proper tire pressure for your car either on a label on the body panel when you open the driver's door, or in your car’s handbook.
Over-inflation
There are many people out there who like to over-inflate their tire pressure by a few PSI. Whilst this can result in better fuel economy, it does so because it reduces the amount of tire rubber in contact with the road. In turn, this reduces the amount of grip the tire can give. If you have to brake or steer sharply you will have reduced response from your steering and brakes.
You should never over-inflate your tires because this can reduce road grip and steering stability.
Under-inflation
Under-inflation is not great for fuel economy. Whilst it tends not to cause any issues for road grip and stability unless you’re more than 10 PSI (0.6 bar) under the recommended pressure, it will cause excessive and improper tire wear, along with poorer fuel efficiency. This is because more rubber is in contact with the road surface and it adds more drag.
Ensure you inflate your tires to the right pressure and check them regularly.
For maximum safety and great fuel economy you should:
Hybrids are particularly sensitive to temperature. It affects the efficiency of both engine and hybrid components alike, but there are things you can do to help overall efficiency.
Outdoor and Cabin Temperature
The outdoor temperature can impact fuel economy by forcing the combustion engine to run more frequently.
Most hybrids get cabin heating from the engine coolant, which is sometimes supplemented by a small amount of electric heating to make up for the lack of heat from the internal combustion engine’s higher efficiency. Plug-in hybrids may use a heat pump to avoid the engine running except at extremely cold temperatures.
As a result you’ll find that when outdoor temperatures drop below around 12°C/53°F the combustion engine will need to run more often until the coolant is up to a temperature that can supply cabin heating. The engine will be allowed to turn off once it reaches around 60°C/140°F.
However, the combustion engine is considered to be at operating temperature when the coolant hits 90°C/194°F. If you’re demanding heat to heat up the cabin, this will come from the engine coolant and it may not get up to operating temperature very quickly. This will lower engine operating efficiency and result in more fuel burned.
You can help to overcome this by:
Air Conditioning
On a hot day, you’ll no doubt rely on air conditioning to keep you cool. The compressor in most hybrids are electrically driven and uses power from the hybrid battery.
Under high load conditions, such as when you first start the car and it is heat-soaked, the compressor can use a lot of power - over 3kW. This will eventually settle to under 1kW, and often nearer 0.4kW once the cabin is down to temperature.
This consumption can quickly use up a lot of hybrid battery power if the combustion engine is not running. You’ll sometimes find that your hybrid battery discharges from full to empty in under 10 minutes even when you’re not moving.
You can reduce the amount of power your air conditioning requires by:
To maximise fuel economy, you need to allow the engine to stop. You can do this by:
All batteries have a temperature range at which they’re designed to operate most efficiently and effectively.
This temperature varies by chemistry, but typically it’s between 20°C/68°F and 35°C/95°F.
As a battery is charged and discharged it will slowly heat up. This happens because all batteries have a small internal resistance which means it wastes some energy coming into or out of it as heat. The more power you put into or out of the battery the more waste heat that is generated.
The hybrid battery heats up most as you use regenerative braking, as this puts the most amount of power into the battery. Ohm’s law comes into play and we can work out the maximum amount of heat that may be put into the battery at a maximum regenerative braking level of about 22kW (gen3) and a cell resistance of 0.22 ohms (this will vary with each drivetrain generation and battery age. I am using a 10 year old gen3 hybrid battery as an example).
V = I×R = 100A×0.22Ω = 22V
P = V×I = 22V×100A = 2200W
The above equation results in 2200W (2.2kW) of heat being generated inside the battery cells at a maximum of ~22kW regenerative braking for the gen3 drivetrain. This is the same heat as 2 space heaters. If you do a lot of regen braking you will find that the battery heats up significantly and this may result in it approaching temperatures where the cooling can’t keep up.
As the hybrid batteries in most cars are air cooled by a fan using air from the car’s cabin, you can ensure that the battery is receiving the right amount of cooling by ensuring that the hybrid battery vent is free from dust and debris, clean the filter annually if it has one, and make sure that you use the air conditioning on hot days.
As a general rule of thumb, if you’re at a comfortable temperature in the car’s cabin then your hybrid battery should be comfortable too.
The car will always do its best to manage the battery temperature, and if it approaches a dangerous level it will restrict or cut use of the hybrid battery until it cools down, and will go back to relying on the combustion engine.
To manage the hybrid battery temperature you should:
Not all cars are designed to run properly on the lowest grade of fuel so you should review the owners manual for your car and engine.
Generally you should not operate on the lowest grade fuel as this tends to result in lower fuel economy and lower engine power output on most engines. It will rarely cause harm to the engine unless it’s a high performance engine that demands higher grade fuel.
Always follow the owner's manual recommendation on which grade to use.
Using a higher than recommended grade fuel
Using a lower fuel grade than recommended can lower fuel economy and power, but using a higher grade than recommended does not necessarily improve the fuel economy and power further than the recommended grade would.
Higher grades are recommended for high performance engines. The characteristics of higher grade fuel doesn’t benefit a regular engine so using it would just result in wasted money.
For best fuel economy:
Two types of batteries are generally in use with hybrid vehicles as traction batteries:
The car will also feature a standard 12v lead acid battery like any other car to run the 12v systems.
Advantages
Disadvantages
Advantages
Disadvantages
When you first turn on the car, there is a sequence of stages that the car runs through before it reaches “normal” operation. These are the warm-up stages and they’re triggered by either engine coolant temperature or time since the car was turned on.
The stages are designed to protect engine components from wear, and if you pay enough attention you will eventually be able to predict which stage you’re currently in.
This following information comes from personal observations and an analysis found on: http://techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/cars/five-stages.txt
I have attempted to simplify the stages for ease of reading, but you can find more detailed observations on the link above.
As far as I am aware, these stages apply to generations 1, 2 and 3 of the Toyota and Lexus hybrid systems. Generation 4 does appear to act a little differently in some stages, but there is no specific information about this available yet and I have not been able to gather it myself.
This information, whilst not particularly useful, helps you to understand the operation of the car and the situations at which it will or will not enter EV mode.
The combustion engine can turn on for a large number of reasons, including:
With enough careful observations you should be able to tell the reason why the engine is running at any time.
The 12v battery in a Toyota or Lexus hybrid does not start the engine. Engine starting is powered by the hybrid battery.
The 12v battery is however used to start the car’s computers, which when running will then connect the hybrid battery to the inverter allowing the car to move and start its engine. This is a safety feature so that high voltage is not present on the car’s wiring when the car is turned off.
A weak 12v battery can prevent the car from starting even if the hybrid battery is absolutely fine. This is one of the most common reasons a Toyota or Lexus hybrid breaks down.
On a non-hybrid you can usually tell when a 12v battery is getting weak by slower turning of the engine when it is starting, which worsens over time. As the 12v battery does not start the engine it is not possible to use this method. You should be aware of the symptoms of a weakening, failing or failed 12v battery.
Related reading: 5.5. Can I jump start another vehicle with my hybrid?
It has generally been suggested that the 12v battery in Toyota and Lexus hybrids only lasts around 3-6 years depending on how it has been treated and the climate in which the car is driven. You may want to preventatively replace the battery before this time period is up.
Hot climates will weaken a 12v battery quickly and it may need replacing every 2-3 years.
Cold climates will reveal a weakening 12v battery more easily with the above symptoms.
If you have a gen4 or gen5 hybrid system, be sure to read section 4.1.6 as this may apply to you. It is becoming common for modern Toyota/Lexus vehicles made after 2018 to see the 12v battery fail every 1-2 years.
The 12v battery in Toyota and Lexus hybrids is relatively small, usually only around 38-45Ah compared with 65-115Ah of non-hybrid vehicles. With loads such as alarms, keyless entry, powered lift gates and digital dashboards putting a drain on the battery when the car is off, it is easy to significantly discharge it if it’s not driven enough to replenish the used power.
This can result in the 12v battery being in a partially discharged state on a regular basis. This partial state of discharge is actually damaging to a 12v AGM or lead acid battery through a chemical process known as sulfation. Sulfation essentially “blocks” capacity of the battery from being used. The more discharged the battery is, the faster it damages it, and the longer it is left in a partial discharged state the more damage occurs.
Some sulfation is reversible if the battery is fully recharged soon after being discharged, but extended periods of partial discharge states or under-charging results in the sulfation hardening into irreversible damage. Such damage takes only days to begin and eventually the remaining usable capacity gets so low that the battery can’t do its job and it fails.
A healthy battery is expected to last only a few weeks before it is discharged if the car is not driven, and this time will drop as the battery ages and its capacity diminishes.
To ensure you don’t have a state of partial discharge, be sure to have the car in ‘READY’ mode or drive at least 2 hours per week and at least 15 minutes per journey to keep it sufficiently charged. The more driving you do each week the healthier your 12v battery should remain (however, see 4.1.6 for situations where this may not apply due to a possible design issue in the 12v charging system of gen4/5 vehicles).
I believe that, through personal observation and reports from other owners, that Gen4/5 Toyota and Lexus 12v batteries do not get properly recharged, for reasons that I have detailed below.
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The full story in detail
I personally have discovered what I believe to be a design issue with Toyota/Lexus Gen4 and Gen5 vehicle 12v charging regime, which causes the 12v battery to be incorrectly charged, and as a result, it drastically reduces its lifetime and increases the risk of a dead 12v battery.
Most modern vehicles use a sensor on the negative terminal of the battery. This allows the car to monitor voltage, current and temperature at the battery itself. In theory this is a sound idea, allowing careful control of how the battery is managed. However, if the software that controls this is not correct then it will result in a battery that is mismanaged.
My tests across my own vehicles and evidence sourced from other owners' experiences [1] [2] leads me to believe that the Toyota and Lexus vehicles do not have the correct software configuration to correctly charge the 12v battery.
Under normal testing everything appears to be normal. The battery charges at around 14.4v as you would expect, and this is how a battery should be charged during its “bulk/absorption” phase of charging (the stages that do most of the charging). This stage is supposed to last until around 1/50th of the battery capacity in charge current is observed. For a 45Ah battery that’s about 0.9amps. After this the charge voltage should drop to around 13.7v, which is known as a “float” voltage to maintain the battery charge.
During my observations using an OBD dongle and the Dr Prius app, and finding evidence online, this is not what is happening. Initially the battery is charging at around 14.4v, until 90 minutes into a single driving session. At this point the battery voltage drops to around 12.4v, which in lead acid battery terms is discharging the battery. A fully charged voltage at the terminals when open circuit is 12.8-13.2v, so anything less than this is discharging it.
12.4v is considered to be around 75% state of charge, which for a lead acid/AGM is extremely detrimental. Any state of charge under 100% is actually causing chemical damage to the battery through sulfation of the lead plates. Sulfation essentially “blocks” capacity of the battery from being used. The more discharged the battery is, the faster it damages it. Some sulfation is reversible if the battery is recharged soon after being discharged, but extended periods of under-charging results in the sulfation hardening into irreversible damage. Such damage takes only days to begin.
If someone drives long distances regularly without a stop every 90 minutes, they are the most likely to encounter problems from this design issue. This is especially true if a long journey of over 90 minutes is regularly performed in one go and then the car is stopped and left for a period of time, as this will allow hardened sulfation to set in due to the moderate discharge on the battery.
Equally so, anyone who does not drive their vehicle often enough or for long enough is going to encounter a similar scenario of under-charging. Under-charging and sulfation is what kills most lead acid batteries, and I believe this is why we’re seeing a significant number of brand new hybrid vehicles from Toyota and Lexus having so many 12v battery issues.
So why does this happen?
My belief on why this happens is simple. Carbon emissions.
Some “smart” people thought they could save on carbon emissions by not always applying a charge to the 12v battery, but instead, choosing to do “smart charging” whereby the 12v battery is charged when there is essentially free power available when slowing the vehicle down. This caught the attention of some people in the government and a requirement was brought in for modern vehicles to have this implemented.
Most non-hybrid vehicle smart alternators work this way, by allowing the 12v battery to discharge to around 75% (12.4v), and then when the vehicle is slowing down they apply an over-voltage (often as high as 15.5-16.0v) to dump high current into the lead acid battery for a short time, recuperating some tiny fraction of the energy that would otherwise be lost from braking. It’s similar to what a hybrid does when using regen brakes but on a much smaller scale (a few hundred watts versus 10’s of kilowatts).
Doing this requires you to have sufficient space in the battery to put the energy, so the 12v battery is kept in a partially discharged state to allow for it. This process, and stop-start technology keeping the battery partially discharged, is what kills these batteries very quickly (in 1-2 years) because they’re in a constant state of under-charge allowing continuous formation of sulfation.
But why is this present on a Toyota/Lexus hybrid? The same reason. Carbon emissions. Whilst it doesn’t do the same current dumping as a non-hybrid, it serves the same purpose by not applying a charge to the battery constantly, which would waste some energy as heat. It’s a particularly stupid solution to a problem that never existed and actually creates a new problem of low battery longevity. This requires more frequent replacements and thus likely undos any carbon emissions that were saved.
There is a very simple solution to this problem that you can do yourself.
It’s as easy as disconnecting the sensor on the negative terminal of the 12v battery that was mentioned at the beginning of this section. By doing this you force the DC-DC convertor to put out a continuous fixed voltage of around 14.0v which is sufficient enough to charge the 12v battery but not so much that it results in an over or under-charge condition.
Having worked with lead acid batteries and charging systems for a long time (over 15 years) I have plenty of experience in charging lead acid batteries to know that this approach is safe. In addition to this, older vehicle alternators would usually put out a fixed voltage of around 14.5v continuously and this did not result in any failed batteries in this time.
Most modern hybrids do often use AGM lead acid batteries which are less tolerant to this high of a voltage (14.5v) continuously, but 14.0v is acceptable for continuous charging of an AGM. We also know this because the Toyota engineers set this as the fail-safe voltage should the battery sensor fail.
This is a largely unnecessary solution as many people will just deal with replacing their batteries every couple of years if they’re affected, but in my eyes it taints the Toyota and Lexus brand reliability. Who wants a car that suddenly won’t start one day every 1-2 years because software mis-managed their 12v battery? Not me. I like to take care of my vehicles and batteries. I believe it was because of this exact issue that I suffered my first dead battery after 19 years of driving.
I have personally disconnected the sensor (in March 2025) and I will be observing how this affects the life of my battery over the coming years. I have full faith that this will result in a healthy 12v battery for the life of my ownership of the car.
4.1.7. How to avoid a dead 12v battery
Even if you do all of these things, everyone gets a dead 12v battery eventually. Ensure you also carry your own jump cables so you can ask someone for help, or carry a jump box.
For hybrids, any jump box will usually do the job because the car requires very little power to start. The engine starts from the hybrid battery.
During my 18 months of Lexus UX ownership I have found that the car has issues with hybrid battery cooling performance. This also applies to other Lexus and Toyota models, specifically the Toyota RAV4.
The reason for this, I believe, is caused by a software issue which is not making the hybrid battery fan run at the proper speed when the battery reaches its temperature limits.
The Ni-MH hybrid battery will heat up during use, specifically during heavy charging (regen) and discharging (regular driving). It has a temperature limit of 45°C, at which point the hybrid battery ECU will begin to restrict battery usage. It will pull back the maximum charge and discharge power to ensure that it is used as minimally as possible so that heat generation is minimised.
As a result of these limits the car reverts back to a micro-hybrid state whereby the engine will stop only when you are fully stopped, and will immediately start again when you press the throttle. All propulsion power is coming from the engine at all speeds rather than from the hybrid battery at low speed, there is no battery assistance under full throttle, and regen braking is also almost completely disabled (a minimal amount is allowed so the battery charge level can be maintained).
When the battery reaches 45°C the hybrid battery fan is running, but not at full speed. It is suspected that it’s to keep noise levels to a minimum (because the car is “luxury”). In this condition any noise should be acceptable to maintain battery health.
In the Hybrid Assistant app you can see the following information which shows us the exact values.
This data can also be observed over time on graphs taken from Hybrid Assistant:
The top graph shows the battery charge and discharge limits. The second partial graph (of which the full one is below) shows the hybrid battery temperature in green with the yellow highlight showing the section we’re interested in. This matches up with the first graph on time.
We can see that as the hybrid battery temperature approaches 45°C the limits begin to creep in. This happens very quickly and within a 1°C change.
I have personally evidenced this to Lexus and they believe there is no fault because the car does not provide any fault codes or messages on the displays. They have ignored my evidence where the car stops using the hybrid battery, has limits that come from the car, etc. because the data does not come from their own diagnostic tools.
It should be noted that this issue does not stop the car from functioning, but it does reduce functionality of the hybrid system. It has been built in a way that protects the battery and lets you continue on engine power alone, but it reduces total performance because 30HP comes from the hybrid battery at full throttle, and it almost completely disables regenerative braking, all of which eventually impacts fuel economy.
It is possible to overcome this issue with the Dr Prius app to force the hybrid battery fan to run faster when it gets too hot. However, this clearly should not be required for basic operation of the vehicle. It requires you to know about the issue, understand the symptoms, buy an expensive OBD adapter and run an app on your phone whenever you drive. The average person is not going to know about this issue so long as the car keeps driving (which it does).
In some weather conditions the battery is already close to overheating temperature when it’s left in the sun for a few hours so these limits can apply almost immediately upon starting the car in hot weather.
I have to use the app regularly in summer to prevent hybrid battery overheating or to get it out of an overheating state. If I don’t I suffer reduced performance, particularly on a journey of over 1 hour where a lot of regen braking is used. Regen braking heats up the battery significantly due to the amount of power flow.
Sitting at a high temperature does make me concerned for the hybrid battery longevity since 45°C is an upper limit for charging it. However, my vehicle and its hybrid battery are still under warranty. Should it fail it will be replaced for free. For those which are not warrantied the battery replacement cost could be prohibitive.
If you have this issue I encourage you to bring it up with the dealer and to post on reddit (and share with me so that I can document it here). It’s possible that if there are enough complaints we can get them to issue a software update.
In the meantime you can use the Dr Prius app with an OBD dongle to overcome the issue.
References:
The engine in Toyota and Lexus hybrids do like to rev higher than most non-hybrid engines. This is because of the engine and hybrid system design and the way it is linked in with the eCVT transmission. As a result, some newer drivers tend to think that perhaps the clutch or transmission is “slipping” when this is not the case.
As you get to know the car you’ll know what is normal and what isn’t, so when something unusual happens you’ll be able to identify it.
The engine may rev higher than unusual under some conditions, which is normal:
If your engine is high in RPM when you hit the throttle but the car does not move appreciably then there may be a problem with the hybrid system. The car should alert you with a master warning light, but it has been known for this not to happen if the car goes in “limp” mode. If this is the case, pull over safely and turn the car off, then back on. This may resolve the problem. If it reoccurs, book a service with your local dealer or hybrid specialist.
The hybrid battery is carefully managed by the car’s computers, and most of the time you can let it do its thing and just drive the car care-free. If you’re observant, you may like to keep track of your hybrid battery level.
There are a number of reasons why the hybrid battery might deplete quickly. Some are normal and some are not:
Normal Operation:
Abnormal Operation:
By “fully charged” this refers to 6 out of 8 bars.
In gen3 vehicles and earlier:
In gen4 and gen5 vehicles:
There are always a lot of questions and answers about how to use the Dr Prius app for hybrid battery diagnostics, but there are no tutorials on what the proper method is or any tutorials showing how to do it.
This section will provide a step by step guide on how to use Dr Prius to diagnose your hybrid battery.
For this test you will need the Dr Prius App, which is available on the Google Play and Apple App Store.
You will also need a compatible Bluetooth OBD Dongle. Visit https://priusapp.com/ and select the “OBD2 To Buy” tab to see a recommended selection of dongles that are supported (and a list of those that are not supported).
I personally use the “vLinker FD+ OBD2 Bluetooth” which looks like this:
Available on:
Don’t worry, no affiliate links on these!
There are cheaper alternative OBD dongles but the above is one I know to work. As compatibility varies, you are purchasing at your own risk. Amazon’s returns policy tends to be quite good so it’s usually a safe place to order from if you’re unsure.
The Dr Prius app interface looks complicated if you don’t understand what everything represents, so below is a breakdown so you can understand it more easily.
The total voltage of all the modules in your hybrid battery added together.
The charging or discharging current going into or out of the hybrid battery in amps.
The current state of charge of the hybrid battery in percent. Typically this will vary between 35-75% with a nominal state between 40-60%.
The average voltage of the individual modules in the hybrid battery.
The voltage difference between the lowest voltage module and the highest voltage module in your hybrid battery.
The percentage difference between the best and the worst module. Typically this should read 0% otherwise it may indicate a hybrid battery issue.
The maximum hybrid battery charging power in horsepower (divide by 1.341 for kilowatts). This will decrease if your hybrid battery is too hot or too cold.
The maximum hybrid battery discharge power in horsepower (divide by 1.341 for kilowatts). This will decrease if your hybrid battery is too hot or too cold.
The voltage of your 12v battery as measured by your OBD module. This can be slightly inaccurate depending on the quality of your module. A healthy range when the car is turned on and in READY mode is 13.5-15.0v.
The temperature of the hybrid battery in each zone.
Zone 1 is closest to the cooling fan.
Zone 2 is in the middle. This tends to be the hottest zone and the hybrid battery fan uses this value to determine how fast to run.
Zone 3 is the opposite end of the cooling fan.
The voltage of each pair of modules in your hybrid battery in Ni-MH batteries, or individual cells in Lithium batteries.
The cumulative voltage difference of each module or cell (highest voltage - lowest voltage). This tells you how much the cell or module has varied in voltage. A cell/module that is significantly higher than the rest may indicate a weak or failing cell/module.
The internal resistance of each cell/module in milli-ohms. A higher reading than other cells/modules may indicate a weak or failing cell/module.
Data Recording
It is possible to record data from the app into a CSV file so that it can be reviewed later. Simply tap the red circle with REC in it to begin, and tap it again to stop. When you stop recording you will be prompted to save it or share it.
The health of your hybrid battery can generally be determined by carrying out a few tests. Any one of them alone can possibly diagnose a failing hybrid battery, but it is not always clear cut.
Note that even after completing these tests the data you receive may falsely lead you to believe the battery is failing when it may be something else causing it, such as an electrical connection issue, faulty ECU, faulty/mis-interpreted readings, or a test carried out improperly.
By following these instructions you accept that the information revealed by doing these tests may lead to an inaccurate conclusion, is carried out at your own risk, and any actions you take based on this are your own decision.
Each test is detailed below.
The resting balance test checks if your battery modules are balanced with one another when not under load. This test typically reveals the weakest batteries most easily.
Volt Diff (Ni-MH) | Volt Diff (Lithium) | Health |
<0.1v | TBD | Likely healthy |
0.1v - 0.2v | TBD | Likely healthy |
0.2v - 0.3v | TBD | Likely Weakening |
0.3v - 0.5v | TBD | Likely Weak |
0.5v+ | TBD | Likely Failed |
The internal resistance test checks if any of your battery modules have an internal issue. A high internal resistance could indicate a failed cell.
Internal Resistance (Ni-MH) | Internal Resistance (Lithium) | Health |
<30 milli-ohms | TBD | Likely healthy |
>30 milli-ohms | TBD | Likely Weak or Failing |
This applies only when the battery is at a normal temperature of around 25°C / 77°F. Resistances are higher when the battery is hot and lower when the battery is cold.
Internal Resistance Difference (Ni-MH) | Internal Resistance Difference (Lithium) | Health |
<3 milli-ohms | TBD | Likely healthy |
3-5 milli-ohms | TBD | Likely Weakening |
5-10 milli-ohms | TBD | Likely Failing |
10+ milli-ohms | TBD | Almost Certainly Failed |
When you compare any two of your modules and they have a difference in internal resistance that is a value in red then you may have a failing module.
The low speed voltage drop test checks if any one of your modules has an inability to sustain a moderate load placed on it at a low state of charge. It is designed to find modules which can’t hold as much energy as the other modules.
For safety reasons, get help from a friend or family member. One of you will need to drive and the other monitor the app. If you can’t get help then screen recording the app would be helpful so that you can review it afterwards when you’re safely stopped.
Volt Diff (NI-MH) | Volt Diff (Lithium) | Health |
<0.1v | TBD | Likely healthy |
0.1v - 0.2v | TBD | Likely healthy |
0.2v - 0.3v | TBD | Likely Weakening |
0.3v - 0.5v | TBD | Likely Weak |
0.5v - 1.0v | TBD | Likely Failed |
1.0v+ | TBD | Almost Certainly Failed |
If at any time the volt diff value rises above 0.3v for more than a brief period then it may indicate that one or more of your modules is not holding as much capacity as other modules.
The larger this number the worse the problem is. Above 0.5v volt diff it is likely that the car has already triggered a “P0A80 - Replace hybrid battery” code.
The high acceleration voltage drop test checks if any one of your modules has an inability to sustain a high load placed on it. It is designed to find modules which can’t output as much energy as the other modules.
For safety reasons, get help from a friend or family member. One of you will need to drive and the other monitor the app. If you can’t get help then screen recording the app would be helpful so that you can review it afterwards when you’re safely stopped.
Volt Diff (Ni-MH) | Volt Diff (Lithium) | Health |
<0.1v | TBD | Likely healthy |
0.1v - 0.2v | TBD | Likely healthy |
0.2v - 0.3v | TBD | Likely Weakening |
0.3v - 0.5v | TBD | Likely Weak |
0.5v - 1.0v | TBD | Likely Failed |
1.0v+ | TBD | Almost Certainly Failed |
If at any time the volt diff value rises above 0.3v (Ni-MH) for more than a brief period then it may indicate that one or more of your modules is not holding as much capacity as other modules.
The larger this number the worse the problem is. Above 0.5v (Ni-MH) volt diff it is likely that the car has already triggered a “P0A80 - Replace hybrid battery” code.
The Dr Prius app allows you to scan for hybrid battery error codes stored in the ECU.
Such codes are typically accompanied by the master warning light and the message “CHECK HYBRID SYSTEM” on the dashboard.
You can check for codes by going to the “Special Features” menu in Dr Prius and hitting the “Read battery error(s)” button.
The “P0A80 - Replace hybrid battery” is the most common and indicates when the hybrid battery metrics are detected as being out of specification.
You will usually get this code as soon as the tests you can run manually enter a failed state, which can render the vehicle undriveable or unreliable.
You can often predict failure earlier with the manual tests.
You may have a failing hybrid battery if you find any metric or test tells you the following:
The more metrics that show a failure the greater the chance that the hybrid battery is actually failing.
However…
You may also not have a failing hybrid battery.
The symptoms you find during the tests could also be caused by:
High resistance connections caused by corroded, loose or failing cabling or busbars in the hybrid battery can contribute to the symptoms of a failing hybrid battery even though the modules themselves are actually fine.
Corrosion, loose connections or damaged cabling themselves are an issue and do need addressing (it can cause a fire if you don’t), but it may be a simpler fix if that’s the only issue.
It’s very easy to jump to conclusions that the modules are failing when it could quite easily be something else. You won’t know until the battery is removed, inspected and the modules individually tested.
You should not attempt to remove or disassemble the hybrid battery unless you are proficient with working on high voltage DC power and have the proper safety equipment. High voltage DC power is significantly more dangerous than AC power.
All answers are based on my own knowledge and research. I cannot guarantee their accuracy.
The eCVT, despite being variable, still has limits on the amount of variance it can provide. The main reason for this is the motor-generator (MG1) which has a maximum RPM that it is able to rotate before it would break itself apart, as well as technical reasons such as back-EMF.
To demonstrate this, below are screenshots from this very handy tool which interactively shows you how the eCVT operates by allowing you to change the MG1, ICE (engine) and MG2 speeds. I believe this is based off of an early eCVT generation but the principle is the same, with different limits between generations: https://eahart.com/prius/psd/
The line drawn between the MG2, ICE and MG1 sliders must always be straight otherwise it is leaving the allowed constraints. Red shows that a constraint is being broken.
When at a standstill and the RPM of the engine increases, MG1 must spin faster to counteract the effect of the engine’s RPM increasing. It has to do this because if it didn’t then this would mean a transfer of torque through the planetary gearset to the wheels (MG2) and this isn’t always desirable (such as when in park or coasting).
MG1 has an upper RPM limit which prevents the engine from being able to spin faster when you’re at a standstill as it would result in MG1 breaking itself apart if it did.
If we increase the vehicle speed slightly you can see that MG1’s RPM drops as MG2’s RPM increases, bringing it back within allowed limits. This means that the engine RPM could now increase, and MG1 RPM can also increase and stay within limits.
A similar limit applies when the vehicle is moving at higher speeds and is the reason why the engine is not always able to turn off.
At higher vehicle speeds, MG1 has to reverse direction but it still has the RPM limit. Because of this the ICE must stay running at a higher RPM than idle to avoid an overspeed of MG1.
This is why the engine RPM can’t always be at the RPM we might want or expect depending on the vehicle’s speed.
Based on my research (which may be incorrect), here are the applicable limits/data. Max speed is observed evidence by other drivers posting online (reddit/priuschat):
Generation | MG1 RPM Limit | Planetary Gearset Gear Ratio | Max Engine Off Vehicle Speed |
Gen 1 (1997-2003) | ~6,500 RPM | 2.6:1 | 42mph (67km/h) |
Gen 2 (2004-2009) | ~10,000 RPM | 2.6:1 | 42mph (67km/h) |
Gen 3 (2010-2015) | ~13,500 RPM | 3.6:1 | 42mph (67km/h) |
Gen 4 (2016+) | ~17,000 RPM | 2.636:1 | 84mph (135km/h) |
Gen 5 (2022+) | ~17,000 RPM | 2.636:1 | 84mph (135km/h) |
There are also software limits in place to protect the inverter and motor components because of back-EMF. This occurs when the motors spin too quickly and there is nowhere for the power to go. This creates high voltages and this can damage the inverter components and motor windings. To avoid this, MG1 may have lower RPM limits under no-load conditions.
Using a gen3 prius as an example, where the engine has a maximum output of 98hp and the hybrid system has a maximum capability of 80hp, why do we only get 134hp total power output instead of 178hp?
There are 2 reasons for this:
The hybrid battery can’t supply 80hp (60kW) of power. It’s limited to around 27kW (36hp) due to its small capacity, and only when it has a high state of charge and is within temperature limits.
At all times the engine is running the eCVT planetary gear set splits the power from the engine into two.
Due to its gear ratio, approximately 2/3rds of the power goes directly through it to the wheels and the other 1/3rd is used by MG1 to generate power which is then sent to MG2 to drive the wheels or to charge the hybrid battery.
Note that transfer of engine power to the wheels only happens if MG1 is actually generating power otherwise no power is transferred through the planetary gear set.
This means that at maximum engine output, around 32hp of the engine’s power is being used to generate power which is then sent to MG2. This leaves 66hp of engine power remaining. Another 36hp (maximum) is then sent from the battery to MG2, totalling 68hp.
The 66hp remaining from the engine and the 68hp sent to MG2 gives you a total of 134hp.
The remaining 12hp of electric motor capacity likely exists purely as a safety overhead.
In all Toyota and Lexus hybrids you will find an eCVT transmission. In these transmissions there is always a physical connection to the wheels through the gearbox to the engine. It can’t be disconnected by any means.
Neutral is a software state which permits zero energy transfer through the transmission. If energy were to transfer through the transmission it would actually make the vehicle move as a side effect of the way the transmission works.
Since neutral must be a state of zero energy transfer, hybrid battery charging is not allowed in neutral because it requires energy transfer.
This also means that the engine is also not allowed to change states in neutral - if it is stopped it cannot start, and if it is running it cannot stop. Doing so would cause a momentary transfer of energy through the transmission.
You should not leave the vehicle in neutral for longer than a few minutes to avoid discharging the hybrid battery to a state that may not allow the engine to start. The car will do its best to protect the battery by warning you to shift to park or drive, and then shutting down the car when it gets dangerously low. The car may not restart if this happens and it will require a visit to the dealer to have the hybrid battery recharged.
You should also avoid car washes that require you to be in neutral to move you along automatically.
The engine will start even when the hybrid battery is full when you start the car because:
No, but also yes, if done properly, but you do so at your own risk.
The 12v system on a normal car is powered by an alternator which is generally very robust and can handle a lot of abuse such as high current jump starting.
Hybrids use an electronic DC-DC converter in the hybrid inverter that converts your hybrid battery voltage (more than 200v) down to around 14v. They’re less robust at handling abuse such as high current from jump starting. They’re not designed for it and electronics are typically more sensitive to abuse than a mechanical alternator.
However, it is possible to use a hybrid to jump start another vehicle if you follow a procedure that minimises the risk to the hybrid system.
This procedure protects the hybrid system by ensuring the hybrid system is turned off when the dead car is being started. This ensures that the DC-DC converter does not see high current spikes which could damage it. Turning off the hybrid vehicle when starting the dead vehicle is the most important part of this process. Do not skip step 5.
It is not recommended to jump start any vehicle with a hybrid vehicle. Use this guide at your own risk. You accept responsibility for any damage through attempting this process.
Do NOT try to start the dead vehicle at any point when the hybrid vehicle is turned on.
Do not skip this step.
This is the most important step which protects the hybrid system.
Do not skip this step.
Note that the hybrid vehicle 12v battery is small and low capacity. It can be easily discharged if you attempt to start the dead car more than once between charging. If you have a weak 12v battery already then attempting this at all may result in the hybrid vehicle not starting again.
If you have identified that your hybrid battery needs replacing then you do have several options to choose from depending on your requirements and budget.
OEM Replacement
An OEM battery is the same kind of battery your car came out of the factory with, and the same kind a dealer would replace it with if you took it to them.
When to consider
The part will come from a dealer so you know you’re getting new parts, reliability and a dependable warranty.
They are more expensive, but the cost justifies the new part.
Expected cost: Varies by vehicle model
Vehicle Model | USA (USD) | Europe (EUR) | UK (GBP) |
Toyota Prius Gen 2 | $2,300–$2,600 | €2,100–€2,400 | £1,750–£4,000 |
Toyota Prius Gen 3 | $2,300–$2,600 | €2,100–€2,400 | £1,800–£6,000 |
Toyota Camry Hybrid | $3,500–$4,000 | €3,200–€3,700 | £2,500–£4,000 |
Toyota RAV4 Hybrid | $3,500–$4,000 | €3,200–€3,700 | £1,500–£2,500 |
Toyota Auris Hybrid | $3,000–$4,000 | €2,800–€3,700 | £1,800–£3,600 |
Toyota Yaris Hybrid | $2,500–$3,500 | €2,300–€3,200 | £1,000–£1,500 |
Toyota Highlander Hybrid | $4,000–$4,500 | €3,700–€4,200 | £2,800–£4,000 |
Lexus CT 200h | $3,000–$4,000 | €2,800–€3,700 | £1,795–£2,500 |
Lexus RX 450h | $3,000–$6,000 | €2,800–€5,600 | £2,000–£5,000 |
Lexus NX 300h/350h | $3,500–$5,000 | €3,200–€4,700 | £2,500–£4,000 |
Lexus ES 300h | $5,000–$7,000 | €4,700–€6,600 | £3,500–£6,000 |
Estimated replacement cost data sourced via ChatGPT, May 2025
3rd Party / Remanufactured / Refurbished Replacement
A 3rd party, remanufactured and refurbished batteries are most often just batteries which have been rebuilt using known good but used cells into a usable battery.
When to consider
These should be considered a stop gap replacement to get you back on the road, or if you have a limited budget.
They often fail within a short period of time (1-2 years, sometimes less) because the cells are used and not properly matched for age, resistance or capacity. This stresses the weakest, oldest cells more than the others and expedites their failure.
They often don’t have a proper warranty. Most will claim to replace at no extra cost if it goes wrong, and they’re often difficult to get in touch with those companies to get this carried out after the initial install.
Expected cost: Varies by vehicle model and chosen supplier.
Self Repair
You can opt to repair the battery yourself if you have sufficient knowledge on how to do so. This should not be attempted by anyone that does not have sufficient knowledge and protective equipment for working with high voltage DC.
When to consider
The self repair option is used by a lot of people, but it’s only as good as the 3rd party option if you’re using used cells. If you can source new cells then this is a great alternative to buying a brand new dealer sourced battery.
Depending on the quality of your rebuild, matching of cells, etc. you can expect to get several months to many years out of a self repair.
Expected cost: Varies depending on using new or used cells and the quantity needed, and also if you need to source additional equipment.