**Sascha Riley**:
... I don't have one with him as my, wait a minute. Nope, I have his commander.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay.
**Sascha Riley**:
No.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So be- before-
**Sascha Riley**:
Baliff Michael. What's that?
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Oh, no, go ahead, tell me. Bailiff?
**Sascha Riley**:
Yep, B-A-L-I-F, first name Michael, middle initial R, and then Junior.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah.
**Sascha Riley**:
And unfortunately, this is the newer NCUI number, four five six one.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay. Okay.
**Sascha Riley**:
And the or, or the commander at that time, I thought it was, uh, Captain Colasanto, but the commander, who I don't remember talking to, but, um, that was, uh, Captain Mendenhall, Ryan L.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Ryan L. Mendenhall, what's the spelling?
**Sascha Riley**:
Mm-hmm. M-E-N-D-E-N-H-A-L-L, and Ryan is spelled R-Y-A-N, middle initial L, last four of his social is one one two four.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay. Okay.
**Sascha Riley**:
And so to, uh, to be a little more helpful for the date, um, the day, the date of my NCUER was 2010, September 2lst of 2010. So-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
September 2lst, 2010
**Sascha Riley**:
... he would have talked to me. Yes.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay.
**Sascha Riley**:
So I would've been talked, I would've talked to him about it probably within the year prior to that date, sometime within the year prior to that date.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So a year prior to the date, so 2009?
**Sascha Riley**:
Yes, sometime within that, that year because a rated, uh, a rating period is for one year.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay. Okay, so sometime between 2009, September 2009, and September 2010.
**Sascha Riley**:
Yeah.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay. Okay. Okay, so, um, in terms of what I was going to, um, record in terms of what we can look at as, as another audio file, what I just recorded now, I'll, I'll just... Um, we'll start the sort of like in terms of witness testimony right here, 'cause I just wanna be careful about what we publish about those individuals right now, 'cause we wanna see about talking to them.
**Sascha Riley**:
Right, right.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So-
**Sascha Riley**:
Right, right.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah, so, you know, today is July 19th, 2025, and continuing with the interviews from tomorrow. I mean, from tomorrow. [laughing] From... Today is July 19th-
**Sascha Riley**:
July 2Oth
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
... 2025. Oh, July 2Oth? My goodness gracious-
**Sascha Riley**:
Yeah
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
... it is. So yeah, today is July 2Oth, 2025, and we're continuing with interviews from yesterday, during July 19th, 2025. And, um, I wanted to just recap what we had spoken about, about the girls.
**Sascha Riley**:
Okay.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So there was 10 to 12 films, one snuff film we spoke about yesterday, conversed about yesterday. There's one more circumstance, similar where you were there when the girls, girls were killed after the filming. There were at least two girls-
**Sascha Riley**:
Yeah
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
... that were killed. Was the sim- same MO, they were shot in the head?
**Sascha Riley**:
I didn't witness that. The, and, and I didn't know that it was coming. Um, we completed filming, uh, then the girls, they said, "Hey, you know, uh, y'all come with us. You know, you help pack up the equipment or clean up, or, or do something," you know, uh, in reference to me. And there were, there was another person in there with me, uh, besides the girls, and I could hear a gunshot, but I didn't-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Mm.
**Sascha Riley**:
... I wasn't witness to it, it was outside. And I can remember the other person saying, "Just focus on what we've gotta do. That's, that's not us or not you," or, or whatever like that.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Mm-hmm.
**Sascha Riley**:
So, you know, I, I can remember wondering if my, if, if it was gonna be my turn next or whatever, but, you know, um, as far as, uh, you know, witnessing it or, or anything or, or knowing what happened after or, or how they, you know, disposed of them, I, I don't, I don't know any of that.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
And you said you thought they were silencing the, the girls, and the girls were under 13?
**Sascha Riley**:
Well, the, in, in the brothels, Samantha had talked about, uh, that they only used the girls for a certain amount of time because after a, a period of time where they kind of became cognizant that they weren't going to really ever rise above that... Um, because the way that they would sell it to the girls is, "Hey, you know, we're gonna clean you up and make you beautiful, and you'll be around these rich people, and, you know, they like young women, so if you can be what they want, then perhaps, you know, you'll go off and live in a mansion with one of these rich people."
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Mm.
**Sascha Riley**:
But that facade or that lie or whatever only survives for so long, because they're, they're horribly abused and things like that, and after a period of time, they just kind of become aware that this is their station in life. They're never going to be, I guess, the arm candy of one of those rich people flying on Learjets, you know?
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Mm-hmm.
**Sascha Riley**:
And what, the way that Samantha described it is, once they get to that level of consciousness, they have-... expiration date. So they would only use the girls for a certain amount of time, and, you know, they were, uh, either recruiting or finding. I don't know how they got the girls, you know? But I can remember even in the brief period of time that I was there, because I wasn't there for more, uh, longer than just a few months-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah
**Sascha Riley**:
... you know, m- m- maybe even, maybe even just, like, a couple of months. But even in that small period of time, I pr- I saw one, two, three, four, five people killed.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Five killed during two months?
**Sascha Riley**:
Yes. Yes.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So-
**Sascha Riley**:
Uh, I saw Sarah die. Uh, she was there when, or rather, I was there when she died. Um, Samantha killed another one of the girls that was, uh... That was at, at the- she, I think she just killed her because she kept causing problems, to be honest with you. Um, and then the two, which I believe it was two, it might have been one, it could have been three. I, I wouldn't swear, you know, on the number, but I believe it was two in that one shoot, and then the one girl that was killed during the filming. It was- she was killed on film while the, while the cameras were rolling.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah. And then Sarah was committing suicide, you said.
**Sascha Riley**:
Yes. Yes.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Patricia, to terrorize you.
**Sascha Riley**:
Yes.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So those were additional killings on top of the five during the two months, is that-
**Sascha Riley**:
Well, let me-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Oh, oh
**Sascha Riley**:
... let me count again. So-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yes
**Sascha Riley**:
... Sarah, the two, uh... Oh, there's another one that I saw killed, too.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So Sarah, which was sort of more of a suicide when s- but then Samantha pulled the trigger, right?
**Sascha Riley**:
Yes.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay.
**Sascha Riley**:
And then one other time where, uh, one of the girls was executed in the brothel, and that was in front of all of us.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So one of the girls was executed in the brothel, and did you see that Samantha did the execution? Did they force Samantha to do the execution, or no?
**Sascha Riley**:
Two, two separate instances.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay.
**Sascha Riley**:
The one girl that was executed, I did not know her. Uh, I don't know if I'd ever even hardly spoken to her, but she, uh, was killed as some sort of retaliation. It, uh... Somebody was beating Samantha, and I got involved in it, and again, it was one of those people that you couldn't touch, so they came, and they, they didn't kill me, they c- didn't kill Samantha, they just killed this other girl, and I don't even think she had anything to do with it, so they just-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Was that the one in the brothel?
**Sascha Riley**:
That was one of the ones in the brothel, yes.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay.
**Sascha Riley**:
And then Samantha killed this other girl just because she, uh, she had beat up one of the other girls, and she kept stealing stuff, and she kept, like, trying to cause problems with the people running it, and, a- a- she just, she murdered her.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay.
**Sascha Riley**:
So that was even separate of all of that, so... And I, you know, I know I'm, I'm, I'm thinking of more and more, but-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah, I suspect you'll think of a lot more
**Sascha Riley**:
... all of these, all of these things are kind of compartmentalized a little bit, so I'm thinking-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
I understand
**Sascha Riley**:
... okay, this happened, then, you know?
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah.
**Sascha Riley**:
[clears throat]
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
It's okay. Well, what's... I understand, you know? There's, there's, it's a lot. You've been through a lot, and you're trying to diligently remember, and, you know, [beep] you know, remembering. You'll probably, uh, remember a lot more, and you know how I'm making sure it's, it's comfortable, you know, so it's-
**Sascha Riley**:
Right
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
... you know. So, so there was, during the two months, there was at least five girls killed, and the killings were all related-
**Sascha Riley**:
Yeah
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
... to the Trump-Epstein pedophile ring. There was executions, snuff film, silencing the girls, and-
**Sascha Riley**:
Now, at that brothel, I never saw anybody except this big-bellied hillbilly that ran it.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah.
**Sascha Riley**:
Um, and then one other, uh, I, I don't know what you'd call him, some, some mobster. Uh, that was the one that came in and shot the, uh... Kind of terrorized all of us, pointed the gun at all of us, and then just shot kind of one girl at random.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay, so a, a mobster.
**Sascha Riley**:
Yep, and I don't- I have no idea who he was, just some older guy, you know, gray hair, um, pinky ring-type person, you know?
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah, and when the two girls were killed after the filming, tell me again what, what the other individual said to you, that, "You're good, they won't kill you. Boys are hard to find"?
**Sascha Riley**:
Yeah, just he- like, I was working, maybe packing up stuff or cleaning, or I, I don't remember exactly what I was doing, but I remember that, I wanna say we were breaking down the stuff that they had used to, to film it, and when I heard the gunshot, you know, I stopped working, and the guy was basically to the effect of, "This doesn't concern you. Just focus on what you're doing." You know? So I just, I, I kept doing whatever it was I was doing.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
And he said, "Boys are hard, boys are hard to find? You're, you're good. Boys are hard to find?"
**Sascha Riley**:
Yeah, he said, he said, "You're good. Uh, girls are a dime a dozen, boys are hard to find." Something like that. That may not have been the exact words, but it was something to that effect.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah. So it sounds like, in the case with the Trump-Epstein ring, in terms of whoever they thought-... was expendable, disposable. The, the girls that were under the ages of 13 years old that were considered, would you say it was more about were they financially poor? Did they, and they would just dispose of them as they got older, more aware?
**Sascha Riley**:
Yes.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay.
**Sascha Riley**:
Yes. Once, once kind of the gig was up where they, they, they knew that the lies that they were being told weren't ever going to materialize, that, that, they, they, that no matter what they did for these rich people, they were just being used-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah
**Sascha Riley**:
... um, they didn't want them around to kind of spoil the ones that still believed in the narrative, because the, the structure of that was trying to, to try to get the girls to be enthusiastic, willing participants, you know, um, for these rich people. And once they had reached a certain level of trauma, uh, then there were, they, then, then they just kinda had no use for them.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay. So from your experience, all the girls that you were exposed to during those particular two months, they all died?
**Sascha Riley**:
Yes.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah.
**Sascha Riley**:
All of the ones that I made any kind of a, a closer connection with, they all died. Now, I may have had, uh, I, there's not even any may to it, I had connections with more people that I don't have, uh, I didn't make as much of a concrete memory with, and I couldn't tell you, uh, what, what transpired after, you know, the two months that, uh, that I was there, or if they, some of them made it, or, you know, ran away or escaped, or I, I-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah
**Sascha Riley**:
... have no idea what happened to the rest.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
And was that-
**Sascha Riley**:
But there were always-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
... specifically-
**Sascha Riley**:
Oh, go ahead.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
That was specifically when you were at the brothel during those two months?
**Sascha Riley**:
Yes.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay. And when you first met Trump, you were about eight or nine, and then your last, the last incident with Trump, you said, was when you were 12 or 13. That's correct?
**Sascha Riley**:
As far as I know.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Mm-hmm.
**Sascha Riley**:
I, I wouldn't swear. It could have been a more compressed timeframe, say, nine to just 11, but within those years are all that I remember, around eight to probably 12 or 13.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah.
**Sascha Riley**:
Um, but there's a chance that it ended even before the, the, the 13-year mark, but it, it would definitely be within that time period.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay, and the-
**Sascha Riley**:
Because beyond that, my life kinda changed a little bit, and there wasn't... After that incident, incident with Andy Biggs, I'm, I do not have any recollection of either being abused by anyone outside the family or any of those rich people. I had no more connection with, with any of that moving forward that I can recall.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay. And where did, where did you go, then, after that period of time? Were you still with Marie Lynn and William Kyle?
**Sascha Riley**:
Uh, okay, so after Tennessee, after the films-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah
**Sascha Riley**:
... when we moved to Alabama, there was a, a, I, and I couldn't even tell you for how long, but there was a, a period of time where I was taken away from them, uh, placed into some sort of foster care. Uh, but I am eventually, once the, the investigations into, to their activity petered out, uh, I was, I eventually made my way back into their house.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Um, is there anything else you think would be helpful for, for us to converse about during, during this recording?
**Sascha Riley**:
Not that I'm, not that I'm remembering at this time, you know?
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah.
**Sascha Riley**:
Uh, even, even some of this, in my own mind, I can't tell you which thing happened before the other thing. I have it, you know, like, some of it's chronological in my memory, but I can't tell you ex- I, I am pretty sure we still lived in Tennessee when they sent me to the brothel, and that's where I met Samantha, that's where I met Patricia and, and Sarah. Sarah died at the brothel, so I never saw, obviously, her again.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Mm-hmm.
**Sascha Riley**:
But then Patricia, I saw, it would've been months or a year later or whatever, uh, at that party.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah.
**Sascha Riley**:
Samantha was already dead at that point, so, and then Patricia died at that party.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So Samantha was already-
**Sascha Riley**:
And that was it. I can just-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Dead.
**Sascha Riley**:
Oh, go, go, go ahead?
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So Samantha was already dead. S- Sarah died, and then Samantha, and then Patricia.
**Sascha Riley**:
Yes.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Okay.
**Sascha Riley**:
And I can j- I can- because I could just remember when Patricia died, I, it kind of changed something inside of me, and in, in that, in my mind, I had just kinda lost my only friend, or my last remaining friend, and in, in my reasoning, there's no one left but me, meaning that the next person they're gonna kill is me.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hmm. There's, um, a-... Yeah, gosh, gosh, egolly. You know, that's, uh, horrific circumstances.
**Sascha Riley**:
Yeah.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Um, I thought there was another-
**Sascha Riley**:
And, you know, like, like, a lot of these girls that just come up missing, that's where they go, man.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah.
**Sascha Riley**:
They're in that type of a, a situation until, you know, they take a backhoe and bury them out, out in some farm or, or some other place, you know? And it's sad to say that, but it's, it's the truth.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
**Sascha Riley**:
And I remember that Samantha went by- She's the only one that I, that I ever heard a last name, and, uh, I believe she went by Samantha Jackson, and the police did run her name through their... At least they said they did, and it did not match a missing person for, uh, for their database. So it- I mean, I don't know if that was her real name or it's just something she went by, but I do know that, that I can remember her recalling, uh, or recall, uh, re- talking to me about, "Just don't ever kill somebody for these people, because then they own you."
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Hmm.
**Sascha Riley**:
And that was part of her problem, is that she had... They had used her to kill somebody, and so she figured no matter what, she was screwed.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Mm-hmm. Did Trump ever visit the brothel, or Trump was usually at the parties on the farms?
**Sascha Riley**:
Just at the parties. I, I don't- I, I couldn't tell you who all went in there.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah.
**Sascha Riley**:
I can just remember Lynn dropping me off of there, and just telling me how horrible it was gonna be, the whole trip, and, you know, I stayed there for however long, and then she came to pick me up. They- sh- she got some money, but it wasn't very much, and she got angry, and w- whoever was running it just kinda laughed in her face because, you know, they said, "What are you gonna do, take us to small claims court?" You know?
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Yeah. And what year did-
**Sascha Riley**:
And-
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
... Lynn commit suicide again, Marie Lynn? 1980, 198Os?
**Sascha Riley**:
No, no, no. It was... No, no, no, it was... Hold on. I can tell you. Uh, just a minute. Ah, wait a minute. No, that's not her. 19- Nope, that's not her either. Let me put in Texas. That might help. Ah, there we go. Yeah, I'll send you a picture, too.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Sure, that's helpful.
**Sascha Riley**:
Um, let's see, 2018. Uh, let's see, ch-ch-ch-ch-ch.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
So recent. That's right, it was recent.
**Sascha Riley**:
Yeah, let's see. "She passed away peacefully during the night at her home in Johnson City, Texas, July 28th, 2018." And what I had heard is that she took a bunch of sleeping pills and washed it down with some Jack Daniels.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Hmm.
**Sascha Riley**:
But I don't have the, uh, you know, her autopsy report or anything like that, but here, I'll send you her picture as well.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Sure.
**Sascha Riley**:
[clears throat]
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
I saw William Kyle's Facebook profile.
**Sascha Riley**:
Yeah.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
Posts a lot of pictures of cruise ship travel. So, um, I'm just gonna pause recording here right now. [phone chimes]
**Sascha Riley**:
Okay.
**Lisa Noelle Voldeng**:
And-