#FollowReader Transcript
Friday, November 6, 2009

Topic:     Poetry in the DigitalAge
Guests: Dominique Raccah (@draccah) of SourceBooks and PoetrySpeaks.com, and Guy LeCharles Gonzales (@glecharles) of LoudPoet.com


2day we'll be talking about POETRY + about the web's impact on poetry, poets, and lovers of poetry. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:00:27 PM (msg id: 5488828497)
Hi @KatMeyer #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:01:24 PM (msg id: 5488852492)
Really excited to be participating in #followreader ...and yes, it's about poetry!!!
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:01:33 PM (msg id: 5488855946)
our guests bring much 2 the discussion. @draccah's newly launched www.poetryspeaks.com has been likened 2 an "itunes 4 poetry" #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:01:41 PM (msg id: 5488859110)
RT @KatMeyer: 2day we'll be talking about POETRY + about the web's impact on poetry, poets, and lovers of poetry. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:01:45 PM (msg id: 5488860811)
glecharles RT @KatMeyer:2day we'll be talking about POETRY + about the web's impact on poetry, poets, and lovers of poetry. #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:02:24 PM (msg id: 5488876607)
+ @glecharles is a digital publishing professional with a very serious poetry habit! www.loudpoet.com #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:02:49 PM (msg id: 5488886771)
I'm going to get started by asking @draccah + @glecharles a few questions. Please feel free to post your questions too. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:03:39 PM (msg id: 5488906252)
Hi Dominique! Hi Guy! thanks for being here! #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:03:56 PM (msg id: 5488913058)
RT @KatMeyer 2day we'll be talking about POETRY + about the web's impact on poetry, poets, and lovers of poetry. #followreader
Posted by norwind on Fri Nov 6th at 2:04:17 PM (msg id: 5488921443)
My 1st question, 4 both of u - do you believe poetry is enjoying a renaissance? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:05:20 PM (msg id: 5488946280)
#followreader *waves* @katmeyer @draccah @poetryspeaks (Also #ff!)
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:05:47 PM (msg id: 5488957008)
And thanks 4 reminder: #ff: @poetryspeaks :) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:06:51 PM (msg id: 5488981989)
do you believe poetry is enjoying a renaissance? Great question! Yes, I do. In fact, suspect all arts r enjoying new audiences #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:07:12 PM (msg id: 5488989902)
#followreader @KatMeyer Poetry renaissance? Not yet, but I think people are more receptive to poetry than they have been in a while.
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:08:16 PM (msg id: 5489013908)
#followreader Of course, @draccah and @sourcebooks have had some surprising success with poetry, so something's happening.
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:09:07 PM (msg id: 5489033220)
Part of @poetryspeaks' mission is 2 make poetry more discoverable + less intimidating. What's the response from users so far? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:09:10 PM (msg id: 5489034556)
...because we're all becoming more engaged in producing art on web. so you're seeing more writing (suspect explosively more) #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:09:44 PM (msg id: 5489046852)
#followreader @KatMeyer As a user, I think @poetryspeaks is a leap forward in discoverability, not just of the canon, but new voices, too.
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:11:58 PM (msg id: 5489098734)
the response to @poetryspeaks has been incredible. Incredible enthusiasm and real wanting to participate. #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:12:11 PM (msg id: 5489103585)
@draccah Did you start @poetryspeaks because of the business opp. or your own interest? Most pubs treat poetry like pro bono. #followreader
Posted by TomThompson on Fri Nov 6th at 2:12:14 PM (msg id: 5489105086)
@5fishesjournal RT @KatMeyer: 2day we'll be talking abt POETRY + abt the web's impact on poetry, poets, and lovers of poetry. #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 2:12:34 PM (msg id: 5489112414)
@gregpincus RT @KatMeyer: 2day we'll be talking abt POETRY + abt the web's impact on poetry, poets, and lovers of poetry. #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 2:12:49 PM (msg id: 5489117956)
So, the audience for poetry is changing? How so? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:13:09 PM (msg id: 5489125456)
@susanwrites @WorldClassPoet RT @KatMeyer: 2day talking abt POETRY + abt web impact on poetry, poets, & poetry lovers. #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 2:14:02 PM (msg id: 5489145559)
I agree with @glecharles that you're going to see a lot of new things on @poetryspeaks including lots of new voices #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:14:38 PM (msg id: 5489158968)
With more opportunity for creating + discoverability - is there any grumbling from the more traditional poetry world? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:15:05 PM (msg id: 5489168898)
#followreader @KayMeyer The audience is expanding as people realize there's much more than the handful of poems they learned in school.
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:15:28 PM (msg id: 5489178092)
RT @TomThompson: @draccah Did u start @poetryspeaks 4 business opp. or your own interest? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:15:51 PM (msg id: 5489186520)
RT @KatMeyer 2day we'll be talking about POETRY + about the web's impact on poetry, poets, and lovers of poetry. #followreader
Posted by robertleebrewer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:16:06 PM (msg id: 5489191815)
I haven't got a lot of time today, but I'm listening with interest. #followreader
Posted by Mer_Blackwood on Fri Nov 6th at 2:16:19 PM (msg id: 5489196706)
TomThompson Did you start @poetryspeaks cuz business opp. or own interest? I think as publishers we have 2 find new biz models #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:16:24 PM (msg id: 5489198425)
Just a little FYI. I've started a poetry link-up every Wednesday called FreeVerse. http://ow.ly/zY3p #followreader I'm easing people into it
Posted by Ooh_Books on Fri Nov 6th at 2:16:26 PM (msg id: 5489198929)
note: tweetchat/twitter apps seem to be slow today. patience everyone! #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:16:57 PM (msg id: 5489210532)
#followreader @KatMeyer Who cares what "the traditional poetry world" thinks? They haven't done the best job of making poetry relevant.
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:17:13 PM (msg id: 5489216254)
...and that means models that aren't "I print the book". we're not printers. so @poetryspeaks is an attempt at 1 new model #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:17:55 PM (msg id: 5489231575)
@glecharles How do you think @poetryspeaks works across perceived camps in poetry community: spkn wrd, old school, avants etc. #followreader
Posted by TomThompson on Fri Nov 6th at 2:18:14 PM (msg id: 5489238738)
RT @glecharles: Who cares what "the traditional poetry world" thinks? They havent done the best job of making poetry relevant. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:18:34 PM (msg id: 5489245896)
#followreader "it would also / cost them / their wives / their automobiles / their girlfriends / their University jobs." Bukowski
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:18:35 PM (msg id: 5489246181)
RT@glecharles: #followreader Who cares what "the traditional poetry world" thinks? They haven't done the best job of making poetry relevant.
Posted by Ooh_Books on Fri Nov 6th at 2:19:14 PM (msg id: 5489259731)
As a small press that publishes much poetry, both in print and online, we could only subsist as a not for profit corporation. #followreader
Posted by tenpennyplayers on Fri Nov 6th at 2:19:20 PM (msg id: 5489262125)
#followreader OK so I'm hoping to create a space where everyone is included and I think the traditional poets will buy into it
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:19:29 PM (msg id: 5489265349)
RT @draccah: Im hoping to create a space where everyone is included and I think the traditional poets will buy into it #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:20:29 PM (msg id: 5489287638)
@draccah Were you looking for a model & thought "poetry." Or were you looking at poetry & thought "new model"? #followreader
Posted by TomThompson on Fri Nov 6th at 2:20:42 PM (msg id: 5489292449)
@TomThompson @poetryspeaks puts a value on poetry; it's not archival or preservationist. What poet can logically find fault? #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:20:55 PM (msg id: 5489297238)
RT @glecharles #followreader "it would also /cost them / their wives /their automobiles /their girlfriends / their University jobs."Bukowski
Posted by v_clayssen on Fri Nov 6th at 2:21:18 PM (msg id: 5489305960)
book publishers have 2 change. At 1 point I said to someone: we're all start-ups now; just some of us don't know it yet #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:22:04 PM (msg id: 5489323345)
#followreader RT @draccah: I'm hoping to create a space where everyone is included and I think the traditional poets will buy into it.
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:22:18 PM (msg id: 5489329001)
@glecharles #followreader trad poetry world is Poetry Foundation. As a perf poet, I'd think you'd be tickled with http://poetryoutloud.org/
Posted by ChrisKubica on Fri Nov 6th at 2:22:36 PM (msg id: 5489335478)
.@poetryspeaks' mix of community/content/creation/ + commerce seems ideal. also luv that u make discoverability contextual... #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:22:44 PM (msg id: 5489338396)
#followreader RT @draccah: book pubs have 2 change. "we're all start-ups now; just some of us don't know it yet" (A-to-the-MEN!)
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:23:10 PM (msg id: 5489347779)
...how did u come up with the search categories + tagging 4 the content? do publishers/poets decide this, or do u? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:23:35 PM (msg id: 5489356932)
@TomThompson You're right that this whole endeavor is driving by my personal passion for poetry. so yes, I thought poetry 1st #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:23:45 PM (msg id: 5489360362)
@glecharles @draccah What does a city of relevant poetry look like? What does relevance look like to you? #followreader
Posted by wordwill on Fri Nov 6th at 2:24:01 PM (msg id: 5489365995)
@glecharles #followreader Trad. poetry world also created http://www.americanlifeinpoetry.org/. Ruth Lilly $ is going far 4 poetry IMHO...
Posted by ChrisKubica on Fri Nov 6th at 2:24:21 PM (msg id: 5489373138)
what's interesting is that when you r passionately trying 2 communicate about something u love, that's when you rock the world #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:25:50 PM (msg id: 5489405070)
@ChrisKubica Yes, things are changing, but it's taken traditionalists a long time to change approach and catch up. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:26:10 PM (msg id: 5489412088)
poetry is a vertical w/ real potential to go horizontal - anyone CAN enjoy SOME poetry. r u hoping to expand beyond vertical? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:26:32 PM (msg id: 5489419619)
I think the internet is ruining poetry. I guess it makes it more accessible though. Not sure that's good. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 2:27:14 PM (msg id: 5489434751)
<3 this: RT @draccah: when u r passionately trying 2 communicate about something u love, thats when u rock the world #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:27:27 PM (msg id: 5489439556)
@wordwill Relevance is subjective; poetry didn't click with me until I heard Willie Perdomo read "Nigger Reecan Blues". #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:27:37 PM (msg id: 5489442983)
@KatMeyer @glencharles Re: bad poetry marketing. Lib budgets 4 poetry are pretty much nonexistent. Need 'em back on shelves! #followreader
Posted by hmccormack on Fri Nov 6th at 2:28:01 PM (msg id: 5489451267)
.@KatMeyer so what Poetry Speaks the books showed was that the audience for poetry was actually a lot larger than we thought #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:28:08 PM (msg id: 5489453956)
@draccah #followreader It'd be cool if on @poetryspeaks u could buy a la carte poem via a content server or POD collections via (like) lulu.
Posted by ChrisKubica on Fri Nov 6th at 2:28:47 PM (msg id: 5489467582)
RT @draccah: when you r passionately trying 2 communicate about something u love, thats when you rock the world #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:28:47 PM (msg id: 5489467730)
.@PagestoPixels can u share more of your thoughts about this? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:28:57 PM (msg id: 5489471127)
So that's exactly what we're trying to do with PoetrySpeaks.com We want to expand the reach & readership of poets (like books) #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:29:06 PM (msg id: 5489474251)
RT @hmccormack: Re: bad poetry marketing. Lib budgets 4 poetry are pretty much nonexistent. Need em back on shelves! #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:29:19 PM (msg id: 5489479119)
@KatMeyer Poetry IS horizontal, but it's traditionally been verticalized as "ivory tower". @poetryspeaks is horizontal, IMO. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:29:57 PM (msg id: 5489492072)
@glecharles I still remember 1st time I heard TS Eliot read on CD. HUGE, especially the Hindustani bits. #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 2:30:44 PM (msg id: 5489510608)
Yes & IMPORTANCE of poetry needs 2 be promoted in general.. RT @hmccormack: Re: bad poetry marketing. Need em back on shelves! #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:31:02 PM (msg id: 5489517507)
.@ChrisKubica #followreader so that's coming. we're actually working on that now. right now, we're reformatting YourMic #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:31:03 PM (msg id: 5489517600)
@the_author_ reminds me - #followreader is poetry, today! check it out!
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 2:31:06 PM (msg id: 5489518946)
RT @draccah: With http://PoetrySpeaks.com we want to expand the reach & readership of poets (like books) #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:32:01 PM (msg id: 5489539078)
Totally agree RT @glecharles:Poetry IS horizontal, but it's traditionally been verticalized @poetryspeaks is horizontal, IMO. #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:32:14 PM (msg id: 5489544176)
@draccah Do you have plans for children's poetry on the site? Or is it still the black sheep o' the poetry world? :-) #followreader
Posted by gregpincus on Fri Nov 6th at 2:32:16 PM (msg id: 5489544842)
.@draccah so at some point, readers can create their own poetry anthology so to speak (choose poems + have bound + printed)? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:32:36 PM (msg id: 5489551928)
RT @gregpincus: @draccah Do u have plans for childrens poetry on the site? Or is it still the black sheep o poetry world? :-) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:33:06 PM (msg id: 5489562685)
curious: @glecharles @draccah @PoetrySpeaks - are u differentiating between published and un-published poets? is it important? #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:34:00 PM (msg id: 5489582516)
@hmccormack #followreader I'd love to buy more poetry for the library, but it doesn't circulate.
Posted by lbgilbert on Fri Nov 6th at 2:34:05 PM (msg id: 5489584278)
@glecharles I thought it was that poets were too often horizontal and we're trying to get them vertical! #followreader
Posted by gregpincus on Fri Nov 6th at 2:34:09 PM (msg id: 5489586047)
@glecharles @draccah How do u see poetry expanding horizontally beyond @poetryspeak? #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:34:17 PM (msg id: 5489588887)
.@KatMeyer: Yes, we expect to add that functionality. And some others that are interestingly different (lol) #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:35:34 PM (msg id: 5489618376)
@KatMeyer Some e-poetry sites are glitzy and ridiculous. It's good to get people interested, but there's oversaturation. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 2:35:43 PM (msg id: 5489622061)
re: poetry suffering from bad mktg - do u think it's a branding problem? HipHop/spoken word/slam="cool" - poetry="stuffy" #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:35:55 PM (msg id: 5489626398)
RT @lindseylochner: @glecharles are u differentiating between published and un-published poets? is it important / relevant? #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:36:37 PM (msg id: 5489642257)
Aaarghh.. had to choose between #litchat and #followreader. Will go with this group 2day as it's more relevant to me #litchat
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun on Fri Nov 6th at 2:37:07 PM (msg id: 5489653276)
@draccah i am huge believer in "interestingly different" - and i pay premium for it! #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:37:14 PM (msg id: 5489655817)
very cool idea! RT: so at some point, readers can create their own poetry antholog (choose poems + have bound + printed)? #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:37:14 PM (msg id: 5489656053)
#followreader Poetry as a business is vertical. Poetry as an art form is horizontal; something for every taste. @tempsfuturs @gregpincus
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:37:34 PM (msg id: 5489663027)
How are we defining "published" for that matter? :) #followreader
Posted by wordwill on Fri Nov 6th at 2:37:42 PM (msg id: 5489666068)
.@KatMeyer @gregpincus: we publish a lot of kid's poetry so yes we'll add but it's complex #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:37:43 PM (msg id: 5489666310)
The internet brings over-gentrification of many mediums. I don't like to see it happening to poetry. Not to be pretentious. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 2:37:59 PM (msg id: 5489671918)
#followreader @draccah @poetryspeaks should have a marketing campaign: "There's a poem for that." ;-)
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:38:10 PM (msg id: 5489675822)
YES. RT @KatMeyer: re: poetry + bad mktg - do u think its a branding problem? HipHop/spoken word/slam="cool" poetry="stuffy" #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:38:16 PM (msg id: 5489677937)
@PagestoPixels ah, so similar 2 proliferation problems in overall book/lit world. 2 much content can b a bad thing 4 poetry? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:38:16 PM (msg id: 5489678026)
RT @glecharles: #followreader Poetry as a business is vertical. Poetry as an art form is horizontal; something for every taste.
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:38:52 PM (msg id: 5489690673)
RT @glecharles #followreader @draccah @poetryspeaks should have a marketing campaign: "There's a poem for that." ;-)
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:39:22 PM (msg id: 5489701290)
luv it! RT @glecharles: #followreader @draccah @poetryspeaks should have a marketing campaign: "Theres a poem for that." ;-) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:39:23 PM (msg id: 5489701798)
RT @Writing_Is_Fun: Aaarghh.. had to choose betwn #litchat & #followreader. Will go with this group 2day as it's morerelevant to me #litchat
Posted by lifeinthegalaxy on Fri Nov 6th at 2:40:14 PM (msg id: 5489719979)
@glecharles Is poetry business only vertical? No collaborative work is possible? Or mix (Lessig)? #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:40:32 PM (msg id: 5489726582)
@KatMeyer Yes, I believe so. If everyone attempts poetry I think it decentralizes the art to a point of stagnation. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 2:41:16 PM (msg id: 5489742409)
.@draccah + @glecharles - what got you hooked on poetry + when? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:41:37 PM (msg id: 5489750032)
I think need 2 find balance b/w commercialism of iphone + "stuffy-ness" of trad poetry RT @draccah: "Theres a poem for that." #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:42:00 PM (msg id: 5489758804)
There's a lot of bad poetry, just as a lot of bad of every category in book world. so how do we curate cuz have to choose #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:42:00 PM (msg id: 5489758984)
@tempsfuturs @lindseylochner Published doesn't mean much, IMO; I know many unpubbed poets w/big audiences and chapbook sales. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:42:02 PM (msg id: 5489759564)
@KatMeyer Problem is cultural. Poetry should be "oral." No1 has a good memory anymore. Thou maybe if we think of it as music! #followreader
Posted by hmccormack on Fri Nov 6th at 2:42:54 PM (msg id: 5489778847)
@draccah If there is a new aud for poems, how do you segment it. What segments are selling? How do classic poets do versus mod #followreader
Posted by BillGlass250 on Fri Nov 6th at 2:43:08 PM (msg id: 5489783839)
ABC News did a vicious hit piece on me today, when two impostors showed up. http://tinyurl.com/yfkmwxq Darn you, @thenote !! #followreader
Posted by MartyEisenstadt on Fri Nov 6th at 2:43:18 PM (msg id: 5489787654)
Digital poetry does have similarities with antique and medieval forms of popular poetry. @glecharles #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:43:21 PM (msg id: 5489788653)
@tempsfuturs I mean vertical in terms of publishing niche. It's not a commercial fiction or self-help blockbuster category. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:43:33 PM (msg id: 5489792847)
RT: Theres a lot of bad poetry, just as a lot of bad of every category in book world. so how do we curate cuz have to choose #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:43:53 PM (msg id: 5489800232)
Same here. So difficult to chose! RT @Writing_Is_Fun: Aaarghh.. had to choose between #litchat and #followreader.
Posted by mariblaser on Fri Nov 6th at 2:44:00 PM (msg id: 5489802600)
#followreader I got hooked on poetry via the Nuyorican Poets Cafe slams, and Flippin' the Script: Rap Meets Poetry shows; mid-to-late 90s.
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:44:49 PM (msg id: 5489819814)
@draccah Sadly, with mass-comm you can't curate. Anyone can be a published author with a computer. The uniquness is going. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 2:45:29 PM (msg id: 5489834409)
RT @glecharles #followreader @draccah @poetryspeaks should have a marketing campaign: "There's a poem for that." ;-) (Luv it!)
Posted by PoetrySpeaks on Fri Nov 6th at 2:45:37 PM (msg id: 5489837058)
RT @hmccormack:P roblem is cultural. Poetry should be "oral." No1 has good memory anymore. maybe if we think of it as music! #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:46:19 PM (msg id: 5489852161)
RT @tempsfuturs: Digital poetry does have similarities with antique and medieval forms of popular poetry. #followreader (Expand on that?)
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:46:20 PM (msg id: 5489852457)
RT @roncharles: @draccah Try reading Poet's Choice column. Every wk we introduce a wonderful poet: http://tinyurl.com/ydeopy2 #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:46:59 PM (msg id: 5489865610)
@glecharles But some do turn to it for 'self-help' & some for 'entertainment' etc. As you sd it's a pretty horizontal vert. #followreader
Posted by TomThompson on Fri Nov 6th at 2:47:20 PM (msg id: 5489873144)
@PagestoPixels #followreader You can't curate with self-pub chapbooks or zines either, but that's where the innovation comes from.
Posted by NicBoshart on Fri Nov 6th at 2:47:27 PM (msg id: 5489875405)
@mariblaser if you're up to it, you can follow both #litchat and #followreader on Tweetdeck columns (a test of the mind!)
Posted by lifeinthegalaxy on Fri Nov 6th at 2:47:36 PM (msg id: 5489878711)
RT @glecharles: I know many unpubbed poets w/big audiences and chapbook sales. Very similiar to antique and medieval times. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:47:42 PM (msg id: 5489880970)
@PagestoPixels @draccah - actually, digital means ability to tag content + thereby curate the heck out of it. (metadatapoetry) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:47:47 PM (msg id: 5489882638)
One of choices 4 poetryspeaks.com 2 separate spoken word poets into own section; so trad'l, spoken word & YourMic (open 2 all) #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:47:58 PM (msg id: 5489886548)
@KatMeyer @hmccormack Oral poetry never went away, but traditionalists preferred the book. Now, "slam" poets publish, too. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:48:17 PM (msg id: 5489893696)
Digital poetry success is not depending as much on pub. As in antique/med times. Popularity trumps marketing. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:48:38 PM (msg id: 5489901457)
RT @lifeinthegalaxy: if ur up to it, you can follow both #litchat + #followreader on Tweetdeck columns (a test of the mind!) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:48:41 PM (msg id: 5489902533)
@glecharles @draccah Late to #followreader, but could you name a few poets emerging as trendsetters in this "renaissance" of digital poetry?
Posted by mitaliperkins on Fri Nov 6th at 2:49:15 PM (msg id: 5489914542)
I love that @poetryspeaks makes room for 'print', audio and vis. Room for poems anyway they're made & experienced. #followreader
Posted by TomThompson on Fri Nov 6th at 2:49:19 PM (msg id: 5489915881)
poetry seems ideal for transmedia - poem, to performance, to film/animation/to audio/music. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:49:52 PM (msg id: 5489927458)
@TomThompson Oh, indeed! And I'm sure there will be the occasional breakthrough bestseller; but as a pub category, it's niche. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:49:56 PM (msg id: 5489928828)
IMO @PoetrySpeaks and similar projects are expanding the popular vs. published digital poetry duality. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:50:10 PM (msg id: 5489934125)
RT @KatMeyer - actually, digital means ability to tag content + thereby curate the heck out of it. (metadatapoetry) #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:50:17 PM (msg id: 5489936772)
RT @mitaliperkins: @glecharles @draccah could u name a few poets emerging as trendsetters in "renaissance" of digital poetry? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:50:21 PM (msg id: 5489938402)
#followreader @PagestoPixels Lots of people were writing before, it just wasn't visible to everyone. Distinction still emerges online.
Posted by wordwill on Fri Nov 6th at 2:50:33 PM (msg id: 5489942924)
RT @lifeinthegalaxy @mariblaser if UR up to it U can follow both #litchat and #followreader on Tweetdeck<-but my head will explode #litchat
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun on Fri Nov 6th at 2:50:47 PM (msg id: 5489948289)
RT @glecharles: @KatMeyer @hmccormack Oral poetry never went away, but traditionalists preferred the book. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:51:05 PM (msg id: 5489954898)
RT@TomThompson: I love that @poetryspeaks makes room for print, audio & vis. Room for poems anyway theyre made & experienced. #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:51:15 PM (msg id: 5489958687)
RT @KatMeyer: poetry seems ideal for transmedia - poem, to performance, to film/animation/to audio/music. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:51:24 PM (msg id: 5489962093)
YES! Precisely idea-->RT @KatMeyer poetry seems ideal for transmedia - poem, to performance, to film/animation/to audio/music. #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:51:30 PM (msg id: 5489964253)
@mitaliperkins "Digital" just a channel; trendsetters are coming out of the spoken word scene where they've built a following. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:52:08 PM (msg id: 5489978609)
@KatMeyer Touché. But tags can be over applied. There's only so many tags you can apply before they're uselessly specific. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 2:52:41 PM (msg id: 5489990940)
.@wordwill which is why @poetryspeaks is so appealing - noncommercial does not = no value, just smaller market. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:52:47 PM (msg id: 5489993014)
RT @KatMeyer - actually, digital means ability to tag content + thereby curate the heck out of it. (metadatapoetry) #followreader (YES!!!(
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:52:48 PM (msg id: 5489993454)
RT @KatMeyer: poetry seems ideal for transmedia — poem, to performance, to film/animation/to audio/music. #followreader Much agreed!
Posted by wordwill on Fri Nov 6th at 2:52:55 PM (msg id: 5489995746)
but there r real problems w poetry books (part of why sales r small). People r intimidated by poetry; don't know how 2 read it #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:53:59 PM (msg id: 5490018782)
@draccah @glecharles Is digital poetry a way for poetry to get back in bed with music? So to speak... #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:54:37 PM (msg id: 5490032489)
@draccah re: digital trendsetters, very much enjoying Kevin Coval's work #followreader
Posted by shakespearecub on Fri Nov 6th at 2:55:01 PM (msg id: 5490041039)
#followreader "Most people ignore most poetry / because / most poetry ignores most people." Adrian Mitchell (The reader isn't the problem.)
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:55:23 PM (msg id: 5490048840)
RT @draccah: there r real problems w poetry books (why sales r small): People r intimidated by poetry; dont know how 2 read it #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:55:23 PM (msg id: 5490048948)
...and don't know how to interpret. so adding add'l media help people to enjoy more and go deeper (just as oral tradition did) #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:55:28 PM (msg id: 5490050713)
Well, then there's a problem with the poetry. But, I'm not sure that making everyone a poet is a solution. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 2:55:58 PM (msg id: 5490061100)
RT @draccah: but there r problems w poetry books (pt of why sales sml). People intimidated by poetry; dont know how 2 read it #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:56:05 PM (msg id: 5490063656)
Actually, what strikes me is that -- if there's the market -- shorter, lyric. poems are ideal for small mobile devices #followreader
Posted by BillGlass250 on Fri Nov 6th at 2:56:05 PM (msg id: 5490063865)
@glecharles Do they use youtube? Could you recommend a few to watch? #followreader
Posted by mitaliperkins on Fri Nov 6th at 2:56:30 PM (msg id: 5490072732)
RT @draccah: ...& dont know how to interpret. adding addl media help people to enjoy more & go deeper (as oral tradition did) #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 2:56:30 PM (msg id: 5490072847)
RT @glecharles: #followreader (The reader isn't the problem.) Maybe the book was the problem?
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:56:51 PM (msg id: 5490080398)
#followreader Too many poets write for themselves, or worse, for other poets. Some are AFRAID of an audience and choose obscurity.
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:57:11 PM (msg id: 5490087758)
You don't think the potency of poetry will be affected as people type out haikus on their cell phones b/t meetings?? #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 2:57:21 PM (msg id: 5490091127)
Love Poetry Fdn's Poetry "Poetry Everywhere" videos for introducing people to poetry. #followreader
Posted by AZpress on Fri Nov 6th at 2:57:51 PM (msg id: 5490102144)
(trendsetters) a name that always comes up when you ask spoken word poets who their fav poet is - Patricia Smith #followreader
Posted by PoetrySpeaks on Fri Nov 6th at 2:58:28 PM (msg id: 5490115716)
@draccah I think when someone reads a poem they can understand, it helps them imagine there might be others. :) #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 2:58:32 PM (msg id: 5490117007)
@PagestoPixels Everyone can't be a poet. People deny themselves any talent pretty well when it comes to real art. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 2:58:53 PM (msg id: 5490124185)
I disagree. You write for yourself and your passions first. If you write for an audience it becomes banal. #followreader.
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 2:59:06 PM (msg id: 5490129065)
@mitaliperkins Falling Star Magazine has a page with vids. #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 2:59:06 PM (msg id: 5490129112)
@draccah there r not many natural opportunities2 interact w/ poetry in everyday life. as culture, we don't read much poetry. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:59:24 PM (msg id: 5490136023)
I actually think we're going to have a lot more poetry readers and listeners and mobile is absolutely part of the solution #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 2:59:25 PM (msg id: 5490136526)
@PagestoPixels I used to. But if X% of poetry = gold, more poets maybe =more gold. How many poems before you're a poet anyway? #followreader
Posted by wordwill on Fri Nov 6th at 2:59:34 PM (msg id: 5490139789)
RT @PagestoPixels: the potency of poetry will be affected...on cell phones? | I do. The reading of it anyway #followreader
Posted by LauraKinsale on Fri Nov 6th at 2:59:38 PM (msg id: 5490141274)
@mitaliperkins Poets are a savvy bunch; use every tool they can to reach an audience. A lot of them are on MySpace. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 2:59:39 PM (msg id: 5490141466)
RT @littlefluffycat: I think when someone reads a poem they can understand, it helps them imagine there might be others. :) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:59:47 PM (msg id: 5490144474)
@PagestoPixels why is that different from scratching with a charcoal stick on clay? it's what we have. #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 2:59:48 PM (msg id: 5490145129)
RT @AZpress: Love Poetry Fdns Poetry "Poetry Everywhere" videos for introducing people to poetry. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 2:59:59 PM (msg id: 5490149139)
@PagestoPixels there's a difference b/w helping more people to read/experience poetry & making more poets. #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 3:00:05 PM (msg id: 5490152355)
hey kids - fyi, we're coming up on the hour. want to thank our fantastic guests @draccah + @glecharles. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:00:22 PM (msg id: 5490160441)
Barbara Holland, Poet http://bit.ly/1i952l HIGH ON 3 CUPS OF TEA #followreader
Posted by tenpennyplayers on Fri Nov 6th at 3:00:47 PM (msg id: 5490171270)
@glecharles also think sometimes poets don't supporting each other well. Online helps. #followreader.
Posted by AZpress on Fri Nov 6th at 3:00:49 PM (msg id: 5490171856)
the small screen of an iphone makes a small book and teeny poem almost too small to comprehend, (how's that fer poetry?) ;) #followreader
Posted by LauraKinsale on Fri Nov 6th at 3:00:58 PM (msg id: 5490175860)
RT @KatMeyer: there r not many natural opportunities2 interact w/ poetry in evryday life. as culture we dont read much poetry. #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 3:00:58 PM (msg id: 5490176005)
@tempsfuturs I agree- but it doesn't stop everyone from trying. That's the problem. Unless I'm misunderstanding you. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 3:01:04 PM (msg id: 5490178337)
if anyone needs to leave, feel free - and thanks for joining us today. the rest of us will be chatting for a little while. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:01:05 PM (msg id: 5490178827)
@PagestoPixels It's an individual choice for all, but if you're too insular, then you'll likely have an audience of one. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:01:17 PM (msg id: 5490183731)
and, i'll post summary and transcript of this poetry convo next week at www.followthereader.wordpress.com #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:01:37 PM (msg id: 5490192338)
RT @glecharles: Poets are a savvy bunch; use every tool they can to reach an audience. A lot of them are on MySpace. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:02:28 PM (msg id: 5490213387)
@littlefluffycat Could you send a link to Falling Star Magazine's page of poet videos? #followreader
Posted by mitaliperkins on Fri Nov 6th at 3:02:29 PM (msg id: 5490213824)
.@KatMeyer I think that's part of what interests me. I'm interested in how do we bring poetry deeper into the culture #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 3:02:35 PM (msg id: 5490216420)
@PagestoPixels the number of people trying is less than we think in fact. People are more intersted in copying/mixing. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 3:02:46 PM (msg id: 5490220921)
@PagestoPixels How does one know if they've got the go-ahead to try writing poetry? #followreader
Posted by wordwill on Fri Nov 6th at 3:03:14 PM (msg id: 5490232320)
@glecharles How might I find the most accomplished and/or appreciated poets on MySpace? #followreader
Posted by mitaliperkins on Fri Nov 6th at 3:03:15 PM (msg id: 5490232835)
@glecharles Is audience an issue when it comes to poetry? Tough question! #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 3:03:51 PM (msg id: 5490247199)
@glecharles, @draccah - who is the one poet u would recommend to go read today? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:03:54 PM (msg id: 5490248264)
@littlefluffycat I think it's different because the medium itself is limiting the art. To fit the age, our poetry suffers. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 3:04:32 PM (msg id: 5490264015)
@AZpress Community is essential for poets. I came up in a strong scene here in NYC; founded my series in same spirit. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:04:41 PM (msg id: 5490267278)
and - everyone on the chat today - please feel free: post the name of your favorite poet or poem. links are lovely! #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:04:48 PM (msg id: 5490270062)
@AZpress I agree with you! something about online seems to really help w/writing community on all fronts, I think. #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 3:05:16 PM (msg id: 5490281756)
@wordwill Yes, everyone should try writing poetry. But, as with many things on the web, it's not usually a serious effort. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 3:05:49 PM (msg id: 5490294782)
@tempsfuturs Audience is an issue only if you care about reaching an audience. "Obscurity is a choice" has become my mantra. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:05:51 PM (msg id: 5490295960)
any suggestions from followreader crowd? RT @draccah: how do we bring poetry deeper into the culture? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:05:54 PM (msg id: 5490297038)
#followreader Thoughtful discussion, all. Thanks for this. Thank you @glecharles, @draccah, @KatMeyer.
Posted by wordwill on Fri Nov 6th at 3:06:32 PM (msg id: 5490311964)
@glecharles Yes, I suppose that's true about insularity. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 3:06:34 PM (msg id: 5490312742)
who is the one poet to go read today? check out So Edgar Allen Poe was in this car by Terry Jacobus http://bit.ly/2YV1h7 #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 3:06:35 PM (msg id: 5490313456)
RT @glecharles:Audience is an issue only if you care about reaching an audience. "Obscurity is a choice" has become my mantra. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 3:06:47 PM (msg id: 5490318116)
@PagestoPixels but how does it limit it? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it. :) #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 3:06:49 PM (msg id: 5490318620)
RT @glecharles: Audience is an issue only if u care about reaching an audience. "Obscurity is a choice" has become my mantra. #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 3:06:55 PM (msg id: 5490320991)
#followreader I recommend starting with an anthology. My faves include ALOUD, UNSETTLING AMERICA and SPOKEN WORD REVOLUTION (I & II).
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:07:11 PM (msg id: 5490327552)
@wordwill thanks for joining us today! #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:07:12 PM (msg id: 5490327771)
RT @draccah: one poet to go read today? check out So Edgar Allen Poe was in this car by Terry Jacobus http://bit.ly/2YV1h7 #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:07:30 PM (msg id: 5490334822)
@wordwill E.g. the internet as a medium implies a level of nonchalance which I don't think should be synonymous with the art. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 3:07:31 PM (msg id: 5490335172)
Thank you @KatMeyer @DRaccah @PoetrySpeaks! #followreader was a blast. Yay poetry!
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:07:59 PM (msg id: 5490345757)
RT @glecharles: i rec starting w/ anthology. My faves include ALOUD, UNSETTLING AMERICA and SPOKEN WORD REVOLUTION (I & II). #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:08:07 PM (msg id: 5490349047)
@glecharles @draccah - thanks for chatting today. #followreader
Posted by gregpincus on Fri Nov 6th at 3:08:17 PM (msg id: 5490353104)
@Glecharles Be fair, some poems are obscure out of laziness -- but some serious lit just takes skill and practice to read. #followreader
Posted by BillGlass250 on Fri Nov 6th at 3:08:33 PM (msg id: 5490359175)
rec Robert Pinsky's ESSENTIAL PLEASURES - huge volume! Saw him perform/read w/a sax & percussion players at #BostonBookFest #followReader
Posted by toofondofbooks on Fri Nov 6th at 3:08:33 PM (msg id: 5490359208)
@KatMeyer Capitalize on the coolness of the go-local movement and make indie booksellers communal centers of spoken poetry? #followreader
Posted by mitaliperkins on Fri Nov 6th at 3:08:35 PM (msg id: 5490360057)
#followreader I also recommend checking out poetry readings. In NYC, http://louderarts.com and http://bowerypoetry.com
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:08:53 PM (msg id: 5490367004)
@KatMeyer @draccah re: poetry deeper into culture? wish we could create link w/ music industry which is poetry set to music #followreader
Posted by susanmpls on Fri Nov 6th at 3:09:04 PM (msg id: 5490371003)
@draccah How do we bring poetry deeper into the culture? Poet digital communities is one answer. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 3:09:14 PM (msg id: 5490374820)
RT @draccah: one poet to go read today? check out So Edgar Allen Poe was in this car by Terry Jacobus http://bit.ly/2YV1h7 #followreader
Posted by PoetrySpeaks on Fri Nov 6th at 3:09:21 PM (msg id: 5490377653)
Thank you @KatMeyer and @glecharles. This was a blast. Thank you everyone who was on #followreader. Totally GREAT!!
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 3:09:23 PM (msg id: 5490378491)
@KatMeyer Get t-eens hooked on poetry's cool by connecting it to their culture through creative video shorts and social media? #followreader
Posted by mitaliperkins on Fri Nov 6th at 3:09:34 PM (msg id: 5490382702)
Thank you @glecharles @DRaccah @PoetrySpeaks! Great chat, good to be talking poetry! :) #followreader
Posted by lindseylochner on Fri Nov 6th at 3:09:37 PM (msg id: 5490383482)
RT @mitaliperkins: @KatMeyer Capitalize on cool of go-local movemnt & make indie booksellrs communal centers of spoken poetry? #followreader
Posted by toofondofbooks on Fri Nov 6th at 3:09:38 PM (msg id: 5490384219)
@mitaliperkins excellent idea. + i think @poetryspeaks doing something along those lines (online tix sales 2 poetry events) #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:10:02 PM (msg id: 5490393205)
@BillGlass250 Exactly my point. Whether out of laziness or intent, obscurity is a choice. #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:10:14 PM (msg id: 5490398248)
Just don't make me read it on an effin iPhone. ;) #followreader
Posted by LauraKinsale on Fri Nov 6th at 3:10:34 PM (msg id: 5490406485)
@draccah @glecharles @KatMeyer Thx for bringing this rare subject up in the light of digital media. Again very interesting. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 3:10:52 PM (msg id: 5490413275)
RT @mitaliperkins: Get teens hooked on poetry by connecting it to their culture thru creative video shorts and social media? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:10:56 PM (msg id: 5490414705)
RT @mitaliperkins Get teens hooked on poetry's cool by connecting 2 their culture thru creative video shorts and social media? #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 3:11:02 PM (msg id: 5490416992)
RT @mikecane: Quote Of The Day: Guy LeCharles Gonzalez http://tinyurl.com/yzuv9rw (LOL!) #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:11:34 PM (msg id: 5490429469)
RT @susanmpls: poetry deeper into culture? wish we could create link w/ music industry which is poetry set to music #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 3:12:07 PM (msg id: 5490442560)
@tempsfuturs thanks for hanging w/ us today! always nice to have your input #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:12:10 PM (msg id: 5490443876)
RT @mikecane: Quote Of The Day: Guy LeCharles Gonzalez http://tinyurl.com/yzuv9rw (LOL!) #followreader: RT @mik.. http://bit.ly/1P4euB
Posted by Hussle24Seven on Fri Nov 6th at 3:12:49 PM (msg id: 5490459001)
Poems about Mike Ditka, Jack Nicholson, and Edgar Allan Poe driving a car. Love it. http://bit.ly/2YV1h7 (via @draccah) #followreader
Posted by LevyInnovation on Fri Nov 6th at 3:13:32 PM (msg id: 5490475218)
B4 I go, does anyone know why #followreader and #litchat are both on Fridays at 4PM? #litchat
Posted by Writing_Is_Fun on Fri Nov 6th at 3:13:52 PM (msg id: 5490482935)
@littlefluffycat But the tool supplies the user with the means to publish with absolutely no understanding of their mission. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 3:14:13 PM (msg id: 5490491483)
@susanmpls omigarsh - the nick cave "bunny munro iphone app: he composed a score to go w/ reading the book. it's awesome. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:14:19 PM (msg id: 5490493705)
@mitaliperkins re: teens, it's about relevance. Check Urban Word http://bit.ly/7YEeY | Community Word http://bit.ly/1hmAqi #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:14:28 PM (msg id: 5490497032)
@KatMeyer U're welcome. I am the one learning here. Thx. #followreader
Posted by tempsfuturs on Fri Nov 6th at 3:14:29 PM (msg id: 5490497478)
I'm just sad that this is considered poetry now: http://bit.ly/1f4c1X #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 3:14:39 PM (msg id: 5490501019)
@Writing_Is_Fun b/c when it started out, #followreader was on fri, + #litchat was only 2 days/wk. we went 2 thurs cuz of... #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:15:21 PM (msg id: 5490517837)
@KatMeyer there's apparently a few guerilla poetry outlets, those are interesting. #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 3:16:19 PM (msg id: 5490540957)
@Writing_Is_Fun nyc summer hours (1/2 day friday). returned to fri sched in the fall, + #litchat is now doing mwf. :( #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:16:36 PM (msg id: 5490547531)
"You have nothing to fear from the poet . . ." Ted Joans, poet http://bit.ly/FeEgS #followreader
Posted by tenpennyplayers on Fri Nov 6th at 3:17:01 PM (msg id: 5490556776)
#followreader Side note: The "digital renaissance" is not unlike poetry slams in the 90s; increased noise, but hidden signals will emerge.
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:17:21 PM (msg id: 5490564529)
@PagestoPixels shouldn't we be more concerned with helping people learn how to fill that need? #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 3:18:01 PM (msg id: 5490579839)
RT @MartyEisenstadt ABC did vicious hit piece on me #followreader http://tinyurl.com/yfkmwxq // guy w/ glasses looks nothing like you
Posted by thenote on Fri Nov 6th at 3:18:07 PM (msg id: 5490582222)
RT @glecharles: The "digital renaissance" not unlike poetry slams in the 90s; increased noise, but hidden signals will emerge. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:18:11 PM (msg id: 5490583783)
RT @tenpennyplayers: "You have nothing to fear from the poet . . ." Ted Joans, poet http://bit.ly/FeEgS #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:18:22 PM (msg id: 5490587929)
Have to go back to work. Thank YOU for having me! Any chance to talk poetry. Brilliant!! Guy & Kat, you r the best!! #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 3:18:36 PM (msg id: 5490593282)
@littlefluffycat gorilla poetry?! what rhymes with gorilla? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:19:03 PM (msg id: 5490603330)
RT @glecharles: The "digital renaissance" not unlike poetry slams in the 90s; increased noise, but hidden signals will emerge. #followreader
Posted by draccah on Fri Nov 6th at 3:19:11 PM (msg id: 5490606292)
@littlefluffycat If you want guerilla poetry, check out http://www.ubu.com It's the biggest web resource 4 experimental poems #followreader
Posted by TomThompson on Fri Nov 6th at 3:19:13 PM (msg id: 5490606932)
Thanks, again to everyone! have a great weekend! #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:19:55 PM (msg id: 5490622455)
@littlefluffycat Indeed we should. But that's the problem. I don't think you can manage to teach at this rate of expansion. #followreader.
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 3:20:12 PM (msg id: 5490629370)
RT @TomThompson: If u want guerilla poetry, check out http://www.ubu.com biggest web resource 4 experimental poems #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:20:18 PM (msg id: 5490631752)
RT @glecharles t-eens and poetry; it's about relevance: Urban Word http://bit.ly/7YEeY | Community Word http://bit.ly/1hmAqi #followreader
Posted by mitaliperkins on Fri Nov 6th at 3:20:21 PM (msg id: 5490632945)
RT @glecharles: #followreader @draccah @poetryspeaks should have a marketing campaign: "There's a poem for that." ;-)
Posted by trishamead on Fri Nov 6th at 3:20:56 PM (msg id: 5490646816)
@TomThompson Thanks! I've been fascinated by them, when I've found them-distribution methods are so interesting. :) #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 3:20:56 PM (msg id: 5490646838)
Frank O'Hara is Having a Coke With You http://bit.ly/jQLmU #followreader
Posted by JHammons on Fri Nov 6th at 3:21:41 PM (msg id: 5490664707)
@PagestoPixels but isn't the very practice of poetry, & interaction, a form of teaching? #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 3:22:29 PM (msg id: 5490683633)
RT @roncharles: We've run our weekly Poet's Choice column for more than 10 years! http://tinyurl.com/ydeopy2 #followreader (poetryrox)
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:24:10 PM (msg id: 5490723136)
@PagestoPixels Poetry can be nonchalant. Bad poems don't diminish good ones, do they? But I appreciate your wariness. #followreader I'm out.
Posted by wordwill on Fri Nov 6th at 3:24:23 PM (msg id: 5490727886)
RT @glecharles #followreader "Most people ignore most poetry / because / most poetry ignores most people." Adrian Mitchell
Posted by bitchell on Fri Nov 6th at 3:24:31 PM (msg id: 5490731145)
RT @bitchell: RT @glecharles "Most people ignore most poetry / because / most poetry ignores most people." Adrian Mitchell #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:25:41 PM (msg id: 5490758514)
RT @JHammons: Frank OHara is Having a Coke With You http://bit.ly/jQLmU #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:25:58 PM (msg id: 5490765245)
@PagestoPixels Considered by whom? It *does* have one good point, it communicates belief. Meaning not obscure, at all. #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 3:26:14 PM (msg id: 5490772109)
@KatMeyer "Mozilla" -- now THERE's a digital tie for you! ha! #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 3:27:14 PM (msg id: 5490795535)
RT @LevyInnovation: Mike Ditka, Jack Nicholson, and Edgar Allan Poe poems driving a car. http://bit.ly/2YV1h7 (via @draccah) #followreader
Posted by jakejacobs on Fri Nov 6th at 3:27:45 PM (msg id: 5490807472)
@littlefluffycat LOL! perfect. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:27:49 PM (msg id: 5490808936)
@littlefluffycat True, I'm not worried about drivel becoming too popular. Maybe I just like poetry being obscure. Hmm... #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 3:29:21 PM (msg id: 5490844308)
Dodge Poetry Festival on YouTube. Great readings http://bit.ly/3nw1j0 #followreader #followreader
Posted by JHammons on Fri Nov 6th at 3:29:24 PM (msg id: 5490845418)
I need some introspection, clearly. #followreader
Posted by PagestoPixels on Fri Nov 6th at 3:29:39 PM (msg id: 5490851123)
RT @susanmpls: My fave poet is Tom Lux. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:30:17 PM (msg id: 5490866844)
@mitaliperkins RT @JHammons: Dodge Poetry Festival on YouTube. Great readings http://bit.ly/3nw1j0 #followreader
Posted by littlefluffycat on Fri Nov 6th at 3:32:18 PM (msg id: 5490915756)
RT @CypherBooks on SPD's bestseller list: http://tinyurl.com/yd37nen (Hammad's "breaking poems" & McKibbens' "Pink Elephant") #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:34:30 PM (msg id: 5490967318)
Mine is Gerard Manley Hopkins. RT @KatMeyer: RT @susanmpls: My fave poet is Tom Lux. #followreader
Posted by cdeminski on Fri Nov 6th at 3:34:31 PM (msg id: 5490967752)
Walt Whitman. Wasn't crazy about Levi's use of "Pioneers, O Pioneers" but then teen son, says, "Wow, what's that from?" #followreader
Posted by JHammons on Fri Nov 6th at 3:35:06 PM (msg id: 5490981481)
RT @cdeminski: Mine is Gerard Manley Hopkins. RT @KatMeyer: RT @susanmpls: My fave poet is Tom Lux. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:35:29 PM (msg id: 5490990878)
But it's truly hard to choose: Yeats, Elliot, Whitman and so many others. @KatMeyer: fave poet #followreader
Posted by cdeminski on Fri Nov 6th at 3:37:14 PM (msg id: 5491031999)
@KatMeyer LOVE Anne Carson ----> http://is.gd/4P9Ze & http://is.gd/4P9ZS #amazing #poetry #followreader
Posted by bsandusky on Fri Nov 6th at 3:39:29 PM (msg id: 5491083858)
RT @bsandusky: @KatMeyer LOVE Anne Carson ----> http://is.gd/4P9Ze & http://is.gd/4P9ZS #amazing #poetry #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:39:53 PM (msg id: 5491092579)
Favorite new poet (new to me) Gabrielle Calvocoressi "The Last Time I Saw Amelia Earhart" http://bit.ly/3AnN2p #followreader
Posted by JHammons on Fri Nov 6th at 3:40:17 PM (msg id: 5491102631)
RT @kalenski: Love Nikki Giovanni and Michael Blumenthal. #followreader #poetry
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:41:33 PM (msg id: 5491132677)
@KatMeyer Thx for the RT. I wasn't in the whole convo, but wanted to namedrop regardless. #followreader
Posted by bsandusky on Fri Nov 6th at 3:42:35 PM (msg id: 5491157287)
@KatMeyer Michael Ondaatje isn't well known for his poetry, but it's remarkable. THE CINNAMON PEELER is a fine place to start. #followreader
Posted by changinghands on Fri Nov 6th at 3:43:08 PM (msg id: 5491169884)
Michael Ondaatje's The Collected Works of Billy the Kid a fave book & Anne Carson--everything esp Glass, Irony and God. #followreader
Posted by JHammons on Fri Nov 6th at 3:43:43 PM (msg id: 5491183357)
RT @changinghands: Michael Ondaatje isn't well known for his poetry, but it's remarkable. CINNAMON PEELER fine place 2start. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:44:43 PM (msg id: 5491206608)
AZpress: Love Poetry Fdn's Poetry "Poetry Everywhere" videos for introducing people to poetry. #followreader http://ff.im/-b6uaz
Posted by uatweets on Fri Nov 6th at 3:45:30 PM (msg id: 5491225252)
AZpress: @glecharles also think sometimes poets don't supporting each other well. Online helps. #followreader. http://ff.im/-b6uat
Posted by uatweets on Fri Nov 6th at 3:45:30 PM (msg id: 5491225263)
RT @JHammons: Dodge Poetry Festival on YouTube. Great readings http://bit.ly/3nw1j0 #followreader #followreader
Posted by TheAmericanPoet on Fri Nov 6th at 3:48:20 PM (msg id: 5491290312)
RT @DonLinn: @KatMeyer T.S. Eliot, W.S. Merwin, Hayden Caruth, Pablo Neruda, Carolyn Kizer #followreader #poetry
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:49:11 PM (msg id: 5491309123)
@KatMeyer Much of my fav poetry now happens outside English. 20th c: Cesar Vallejo. 21st c: Valzhyna Mort FACTORY OF TEARS #followreader
Posted by TomThompson on Fri Nov 6th at 3:49:23 PM (msg id: 5491313446)
compiling everyone's poet shoutouts for the #followreader summary is going to be fun! (i'll try to add links) :)
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 3:49:44 PM (msg id: 5491321492)
RT @PagestoPixels: I'm just sad that this is considered poetry now: http://bit.ly/1f4c1X #followreader
Posted by TheAmericanPoet on Fri Nov 6th at 3:51:24 PM (msg id: 5491361051)
RT @glecharles: #followreader I also recommend checking out poetry readings. In NYC, http://louderarts.com and http://bowerypoetry.com
Posted by TheAmericanPoet on Fri Nov 6th at 3:51:59 PM (msg id: 5491374471)
@hmccormack Shake's isn't relevant; self-expression is: Urban Word http://bit.ly/7YEeY | Community Word http://bit.ly/1hmAqi #followreader
Posted by glecharles on Fri Nov 6th at 3:52:11 PM (msg id: 5491379594)
Emily Dickinson, Anne Sexton, Sylvia Plath, Louise Gluck, Diane di Prima, Anne Waldman, Diane Wakowski and Kay Ryan. #followreader
Posted by JHammons on Fri Nov 6th at 3:56:57 PM (msg id: 5491492185)
Anne Waldman puts "Makeup on Empty Space" http://bit.ly/1jEut8 #followreader
Posted by JHammons on Fri Nov 6th at 3:58:20 PM (msg id: 5491524826)
@TomThompson is it translated into English? #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 4:02:06 PM (msg id: 5491617911)
@KatMeyer I love Nikki Giovanni. #followreader
Posted by msulka on Fri Nov 6th at 4:14:24 PM (msg id: 5491909920)
RT @mitaliperkins Get teens hooked on poetry's cool by connecting 2 their culture thru creative video shorts and social media? #followreader
Posted by calreid on Fri Nov 6th at 4:18:34 PM (msg id: 5492007319)
Favorite living poet: Louise Glück, after a friend read me a poem from the New Yorker over the phone and my world changed #followreader
Posted by dauwhe on Fri Nov 6th at 4:18:42 PM (msg id: 5492010238)
My favorite living poet is W. S. Merwin, and favorite volume of his is The Lice (1967). #followreader
Posted by rgibson103 on Fri Nov 6th at 4:39:27 PM (msg id: 5492498070)
via @glecharles: #followreader The "digital renaissance" not unlike poetry slams in 90s; increased noise, but hidden signals will emerge.
Posted by bookmarket on Fri Nov 6th at 4:41:32 PM (msg id: 5492547093)
RT: @wordwill: RT @KatMeyer: poetry seems ideal for transmedia — poem, to performance, to film/animation/to audio/music. #followreader
Posted by ChuckWendig on Fri Nov 6th at 4:47:07 PM (msg id: 5492675738)
missed today's #followreader, but catching up with hashtag. @poetryspeaks and poetry in general being discussed. thought provoking.
Posted by booksquare on Fri Nov 6th at 5:20:01 PM (msg id: 5493428101)
Langston Hughes http://bit.ly/10hEqz & my fave & far too often overshadowed Paul Laurence Dunbar http://bit.ly/7rLRm #followreader #poetry
Posted by LFreshwater on Fri Nov 6th at 5:41:15 PM (msg id: 5493916840)
@hmccormack yo, Heather. am sending questions sunday 4 #followreader intervu (finally) 2 run Wed. easy questions. won't take 2 much time.
Posted by KatMeyer on Fri Nov 6th at 9:50:54 PM (msg id: 5499338680)
RT @james3neal: How much has social media changed the way major book reviewers discover new titles? - #FollowReader - http://j.mp/DYRQg
Posted by brewinlibrarian on Fri Nov 6th at 10:01:42 PM (msg id: 5499535842)
Speaking/signing "I Am Martin Eisenstadt" tonight @AtomicBooks in Baltimore. 7-9pm http://bit.ly/3pguEF #followreader #booktour #book
Posted by MartyEisenstadt on Sat Nov 7th at 9:44:07 AM (msg id: 5509630820)
#FollowReader is Waxing Poetic! http://bit.ly/47TGBl via @KatMeyer
Posted by thecreativepenn on Sun Nov 8th at 12:11:09 AM (msg id: 5527080956)
@katmeyer Want to qt you frm Fri's #followreader re digital poetry being anything w/metadata to make it findable. But can't find what u sd!
Posted by TomThompson on Mon Nov 9th at 8:32:43 AM (msg id: 5561098349)
@TomThompson oh - i'm slow, but i'll be getting that transcript up soon. #followreader
Posted by KatMeyer on Mon Nov 9th at 8:38:23 AM (msg id: 5561234300)